Be Careful When Blog Commenting - There is some Bad Advice Out There

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  • Good reminder. I think you're right about anchor text and I never use it myself.

    Refraining from using anchor text in a comment is the quickest way to establish your bona fides and get your comment published.

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    • Profile picture of the author swilliams09
      even if it is a really good comment, a lot of blog owners will mark you spam. Trigger happy bloggers!
      LOL. What else would you call it? Let's be honest here, if we are doing that we know exactly what we are doing. And so do they.
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        • Profile picture of the author Dan C. Rinnert
          Originally Posted by Lutzi View Post

          Putting the name of your blog in anchor text after your signature is not spam. It is just a little bit of self-promotion.
          On many blogs, there are four fields for your comment:

          Name:
          eMail:
          URL:
          Comment:

          You put your name for the name, a valid eMail address for the eMail, your blog or website in the URL field and then you leave your comment.

          When you post, your name will be hyperlinked to the website/blog you entered in the URL field.

          There is your self-promotion.

          If you are adding a "signature" with anchor text to your blog, you are probably a spammer and not a real commenter.
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          • Profile picture of the author Istvan Horvath
            Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert View Post

            When you post, your name will be hyperlinked to the website/blog you entered in the URL field.

            There is your self-promotion.

            If you are adding a "signature" with anchor text to your blog, you are probably a spammer and not a real commenter.
            Amen to that.

            Most people forget that in Settings > Discussions you can set WP to look for even ONE link in the body of the comment and put it in the spam "waiting list" when found.

            My blogs are set like that: 1 link = you are out. You don't even need any plugin or sophisticated scripts to achieve this. When there is a link in a comment, the comment will never make it. It is that simple.
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          • Profile picture of the author nlquyen
            Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert View Post

            On many blogs, there are four fields for your comment:

            Name:
            eMail:
            URL:
            Comment:

            You put your name for the name, a valid eMail address for the eMail, your blog or website in the URL field and then you leave your comment.

            When you post, your name will be hyperlinked to the website/blog you entered in the URL field.

            There is your self-promotion.

            If you are adding a "signature" with anchor text to your blog, you are probably a spammer and not a real commenter.
            yeb, putting anchor link text is not good idea. put something they need, you are not a spammer.
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  • Profile picture of the author Matt Ward
    Akismet is very flawed, and I have nothing good to say about it. I've been Akismet banned more than once, for writing valid, on-topic comments. I think you're right that putting anchor text and affiliate website immediately clues most webmasters into what you're doing, and they hit the "spam" button. It only takes a few spam submissions before Akismet blacklists your site.
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  • Profile picture of the author GarrieWilson
    that's why you use proxies and naked browsers ...
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    • Profile picture of the author kindsvater
      Originally Posted by GarrieWilson View Post

      that's why you use proxies and naked browsers ...
      What is a naked browser?

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      • Profile picture of the author GarrieWilson
        Originally Posted by kindsvater View Post

        What is a naked browser?

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        One without plugins, bookmarks, etc. Freshly installed.

        Using data from the browser (OS, fonts, plugins, resolution, etc.) you can track people fairly well. So if it's naked, it's not as unique.

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        My browsers fingerprint appears to be unique among the 1,713,200 tested so far and estimate that my browser has a fingerprint that conveys at least 20.71 bits of identifying information.

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        • Profile picture of the author SteveJohnson
          Originally Posted by GarrieWilson View Post

          One without plugins, bookmarks, etc. Freshly installed.

          Using data from the browser (OS, fonts, plugins, resolution, etc.) you can track people fairly well. So if it's naked, it's not as unique.

          Panopticlick

          My browsers fingerprint appears to be unique among the 1,713,200 tested so far and estimate that my browser has a fingerprint that conveys at least 20.71 bits of identifying information.

          Garrie
          That's interesting. I had almost the same result:
          Your browser fingerprint appears to be unique among the 1,713,826 tested so far.
          Currently, we estimate that your browser has a fingerprint that conveys at least 20.71 bits of identifying information.
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      • Profile picture of the author Don Schenk
        Originally Posted by kindsvater View Post

        What is a naked browser?

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        Cheer up. I misread it and thought it said, naked trousers."

        I wondered if he was talking about the Emperor's New Trousers. Then I read it correctly. Man, I must need new glasses!

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      • Profile picture of the author SteveJohnson
        Originally Posted by kindsvater View Post

        What is a naked browser?

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        Duh. One with no clothes.

        You can occasionally see them at WalMart, if you really want to.
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  • Profile picture of the author Matt Ward
    Using a proxy will do nothing to stop you from being Akismet banned; it blacklists the domain you're linking to, not your PC's ip address.
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    • Profile picture of the author potatochips
      lol... We're spammers. So, a day or an other we will be banned by Akismet...
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    This backlink baby is dying....
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  • Profile picture of the author Devon Brown
    I totally agree with Dan - I fill out all the forms on a blog and use that as my anchor text. I get slapped by Youtube.. I prefer not getting slapped by Akismet.
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  • Profile picture of the author ZealZeal
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    Thanks for sharing. This is a very helpful post. Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author LilyEntrust
    Also, I have found through Google Analytics that people still do click on the link even if it's your actual name and not the name of your business / the keyword associated with it.
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  • Profile picture of the author tim_benedict
    Good stuff. I actually didn't know about the WP setting re 1commentlink=spam, and I have maybe ten WP sites active. wow. I better go fix that. thanks. Also interesting to hear that this backlink method is dying a slow painful death. I never figured those links were worth much anyway, so I never focused on them, preferring instead to develop "expert" backlinks and other types.
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  • Profile picture of the author sharrydan
    This is one of my new sites:

    http://www.okbatteries.net

    Please come and comment with or without anchor text wherever you like.

    Only the link will be no-follow for the time being. I simply haven't yet found simple enough way to make them do-follow. I would be grateful for any ideas how to do that (I mean Wordpress).

    I have done a little research, and I find that there are many sites out there that rank high in Google but do not offer any more or less usable content. But they have, as a rule, close to a thousand or even more spam comments.

    From this, I conclude, that the spiders are not all that good deciding whether the comments are of high quality. They just see a discussion going on and are pretty happy with that. Could well be that those few relevant comments found in between, completely erase the spiders' doubt about the natural character of such a "discussion".

    This type of site can easily have PR5, PR6 or PR7, even though I have seen only one such site with PR7 so far.

    I am not allowing spam comments on my site. Not because of SEO but because of ethical reasons and respect to my visitors.

    You will see nearly no comments on my site, but don't worry. If only you write something relevant, your comment will stay. But, please, do show the relevancy to the post in at least one sentence.

    I delete tons of spam comments daily. They will never see daylight on any of my sites. But in your relevant comment, you are welcome to have your anchor text. And they will be available as do-follow as soon as I discover how to technically arrange that without too much pain.

    As regards SEO, I think I would have ranked even higher if I had allowed that spam in.
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    • Profile picture of the author Sherry Driedger
      Originally Posted by sharrydan View Post

      This is one of my new sites:

      Extended Battery - Htc Evo, Htc Thunderbolt, Samsung Vibrant Battery

      Please come and comment with or without anchor text wherever you like.

      Only the link will be no-follow for the time being. I simply haven't yet found simple enough way to make them do-follow. I would be grateful for any ideas how to do that (I mean Wordpress).

      I have done a little research, and I find that there are many sites out there that rank high in Google but do not offer any more or less usable content. But they have, as a rule, close to a thousand or even more spam comments.

      From this, I conclude, that the spiders are not all that good deciding whether the comments are of high quality. They just see a discussion going on and are pretty happy with that. Could well be that those few relevant comments found in between, completely erase the spiders' doubt about the natural character of such a "discussion".

      This type of site can easily have PR5, PR6 or PR7, even though I have seen only one such site with PR7 so far.

      I am not allowing spam comments on my site. Not because of SEO but because of ethical reasons and respect to my visitors.

      You will see nearly no comments on my site, but don't worry. If only you write something relevant, your comment will stay. But, please, do show the relevancy to the post in at least one sentence.

      I delete tons of spam comments daily. They will never see daylight on any of my sites. But in your relevant comment, you are welcome to have your anchor text. And they will be available as do-follow as soon as I discover how to technically arrange that without too much pain.

      As regards SEO, I think I would have ranked even higher if I had allowed that spam in.
      I have the Do Follow and KeywordLuv plugins on a couple of my blogs. The Do Follow plugin removes the no follow on the link. The KeywordLuv plugin allows someone to enter YourName@YourKeywords in the Name field, which gives them a keyworded link. There is a big controversy over whether to use these plugins or not. I say it is up to you. Read what folks have to say about it and decide for yourself. If you want to try it, that does not mean you have to leave it there if you do not want it in the future. I have a couple of blogs where they are used, mostly ones I am not really trying to promote, and others I prefer not to use them on. In either case, I get lots of spam comments. There really doesn't seem to be a difference if I use the plugins or not.

      I have all comments on all blogs set to be approved, and it is funny that most often, the best comments are in the spam folder and I still get people adding a url to their comment even on the KeywordLuv sites. If they do that, the comment gets removed. In addition, on the blogs I use the plugins on, I have a comment policy posted directly at the top of the comment box.

      "Comment Policy: This blog uses DoFollow and all comments are monitored. Comments which add to the conversation are welcome. As much as we love hearing how great our blog is, comments that do not add value risk being removed or disapproved. Thank you for your co-operation."

      My conclusion is that comment spammers don't bother to read. They hit, type and run.

      Don't forget that if you are being hit by what I call serial comment spammers, you can always choose to add their ip address or ip range to the comment blacklist found under Settings - Discussion. Food for thought!
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  • Profile picture of the author jgant
    Bulls make money, bears make money, hogs get slaughtered.

    I'm happy with a single backlink from the website URL field with the name as anchor text. Save the anchor text links for other backlinking methods.

    It's a shame for not getting approved when you put time into a comment.
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  • Profile picture of the author JSProjects
    There's plenty of blogs out there that don't use Akismet. Plenty.

    Also, instead of using just anchor text it's usually wise to use a name + anchor text. For example, "James from Computer Keyboard Reviews."

    That, in addition to a high quality / relevant comment is usually enough.
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  • Profile picture of the author balric
    Why do you even care if you get "banned" by Akismet? There are not that many blogs that even use it. It makes very little difference in the long run.
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  • Profile picture of the author trishseo
    Especially when you're posting to High PR moderated blog comments where your link matters, keyword as your name is a no no. The only exceptions are if there are comments above yours approved with keywords or if you can get away with something like "Trish the dog trainer" or "trish @ dog training". Otherwise, it's just your own link you're sending to the blog owner's spam folder which he'll never see.
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    • Profile picture of the author Sherry Driedger
      Originally Posted by trishseo View Post

      Especially when you're posting to High PR moderated blog comments where your link matters, keyword as your name is a no no. The only exceptions are if there are comments above yours approved with keywords or if you can get away with something like "Trish the dog trainer" or "trish @ dog training". Otherwise, it's just your own link you're sending to the blog owner's spam folder which he'll never see.
      I have to agree with this and would add that a lot of blogs have the "Comment author must have a previously approved comment" option enabled under Settings - Discussion. For a blog that shows keyworded links in the comments, I would post at least one comment without and see if it gets approved first. Then try a second comment with a keyword on a different post which shows keywording is acceptable.
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  • Profile picture of the author BWellman
    I see all these comments about links, signatures and spam, but what usually gets me is the comment from someone who tells me that I'm doing something wrong and proceeds to list all the flaws in my comments then adds their link to some "special super-duper secret fixin' machine" or ebook.

    Really? That just pisses me off. I can take constructive criticism, but don't talk down to me - I'm not an idiot, I'm just not as well versed as [you] are when discussing the finer details of website construction and telling me I'm wrong on my own blog will not get you a sale. I have made very few posts of blogs and when I do I am conscious of my wording. Common sense when posting to someone else's blog - don't be an ass! Conversation is difficult enough via written word - try commenting for the express purpose of making a contribution to that person's blog or page. Connecting to people can sometimes be a better sales tool than any listed in the WSO's.

    Just my view, of course.
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  • Profile picture of the author blakecans
    Thank you for reminding. Blog commentators should learn from here.
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  • Profile picture of the author handy
    Yeah I think the window for traffic/SEO via blog commenting is fast closing...
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  • Profile picture of the author Kierkegaard
    I've found that a name (I don't always use the same one) gets more traffic. People know that if the name is a link then you go to their site if you click it. If your comments are interesting or provocative then people click on your link. They want to know more about Dave, Chris, Mike, Tom, etc.

    Some of my sites get fantastic traffic from blog comments. One's in which the comment section is almost like a forum threas with commenters replying to each others comments get me the most traffic.
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  • Profile picture of the author danieldroga
    I also don't like to use anchor text and I never plan to do so.
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