Larry Flynt and "Hustler" Ask For Government Bailout Money!

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What a great marketing ploy!

"Girls Gone Wild CEO Joe Francis and Hustler magazine
publisher Larry Flynt have said they will petition Congress
for financial aid along the lines of what the Big Three
auto makers are getting.

Francis said that he and Flynt are asking for $5 billion,
and that they have sent letters to Treasury Secretary Henry
Paulson, Congress and their local Congressman, Henry Waxman
(D-Calif.) with the proposal. Rep. Waxman's office did not
immediately respond to a request for comment."

Adult Entertainment Industry Wants a Bailout - FOXBusiness.com

Do you think they actually hope to get the money, or is this
just another way for Flynt to manipulate and use the media
for his own gain?
#bailout #flynt #government #hustler #larry #money
  • Profile picture of the author Eric Land
    I saw this before almost laughed
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    • Profile picture of the author VegasVince
      Larry Flynt is not only a modern day PT Barnum....he puts his money where is mouth is.

      He exploits the press like the pro he is...while always making a much bigger point in the process---- usually at the expense of the US Government whom he's never backed down from. I love it!

      I can assure you Larry has more money then he can count......and he's got big WAVOS! Anyone who has dug a thorn in the side of Uncle Sam all these years is either crazy or brave....Larry might be both.

      A free speech libertarian who has managed to once again expose the blatant hypocrites who make up the Senate and Congress...as they write checks to every chump who couldn't make his industry work. Losers!

      Larry's point is obvious....if Congress wants to use tax payer money to bail out losers then they should do it for every one! He's got a point.

      Why should the car industry, wall street, and the rest of the mooches get a handout...while successful, rich pornographers get nothing because they're penalized for actually having the brains to run a successful business???

      I think Larry Flynt......is spot on as usual.

      For the record.....

      Larry's greatest stunt was offering up a million dollars for anyone who could provide proof of having slept with a married member of congress.

      It led to the resignation of more then one busted scumbag on Capital Hill caught with his pants down--literally! Loved it. Especially when it always seems to be the same self righteous ones.....who preach morality. Funny how that works.

      Thanks Larry....for once again taking out the trash and keeping it real.

      Another great example of a PR genious.


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      • Profile picture of the author Jared Alberghini
        Originally Posted by VegasVince View Post

        Larry's point is obvious....if Congress wants to use tax payer money to bail out losers then they should do it for every one! He's got a point.

        Why should the car industry, wall street, and the rest of the mooches get a handout...while successful, rich pornographers get nothing because they're penalized for actually having the brains to run a successful business???
        I believe the Tax Payers would see a much better ROI if the 'bailout loans' that are supposed to be paid back, are put in the hands of proper business owners that turn a profit, not those whose specialty is driving a business into the ground and filing for bankrupcy.

        I know it's a publicity stunt, but shit, I would gladly put my tax dollars into the hands of a successful business owner(s), compared to a business that is going bankrupt.

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  • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
    I doubt that what Mr. Flynt's situation is a serious problem for the nation.


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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      Great advertising ploy. However, if he declares himself a bank, he might get the money. Seems to be the thing to do these days.
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  • Profile picture of the author 4morereferrals
    I wonder who or what would have needed bailing out if the US Govt decided to divide $2 trillion by 300 million people and hand it out to the Legal Voting US Citizenry? Whats that per house?
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    • Profile picture of the author Black Hat Cat
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      Originally Posted by 4morereferrals View Post

      I wonder who or what would have needed bailing out if the US Govt decided to divide $2 trillion by 300 million people and hand it out to the Legal Voting US Citizenry? Whats that per house?
      About $6,700 each if you divide it by 300 million.

      Better idea would be to stop handing money out period. That stuff doesn't grow on trees you know, though some think it grows on printing presses.
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      • Profile picture of the author derekwong28
        I saw this piece yesterday which says it all about the US Government bailouts. Basically, the US governmenet does not have any real money to pay for the bailouts, but have to borrow more and more, rather like a ponzi scheme.

        Things have the potential to get much worse!

        "In layman's terms, there are three general types of debt: good, bad, and catastrophic.

        An example of good debt would be borrowing money to double the size of a cash crop like corn. By borrowing money, you grow valuable produce to sell, and make enough to service your debt and profit from it. You have used debt to create wealth.

        An example of bad debt is to buy something now that you would've had to save for later. If you absolutely have to be the first one in the office with the iphone nano, you can put that on your credit card and impress all of your co-workers. This is bad debt however, because you are going to have to pay interest on the money you borrowed.

        Catastrophic debt on the other hand, is when debt is used to pay debt. This is usually the third or fourth step into bankruptcy for irresponsible individuals. An example of this would be going to a pay-day loan center to pay off credit card debt. In this case you are not only paying interest on the original bad debt (credit+interest), but you now have to pay off the new debt as well. (credit+interest+interest2) this is known as the credit death spiral.

        Right now the United States is taking the catastrophic debt route to "save the economy". Essentially, Bernanke and Paulson are running a ponzi scheme that dwarfs that of Bernie Madoff. They are paying off investors with the money of new investors. The fed is trying to cover all of the bad debt that has built up over the last decade with more debt. This is logically identical to treating an alcoholic with a bottle of vodka. Due to the nature of the interest being accrued, and the false increase in GDP that was funded by this debt, we are locked into the spiral. Unless the gross domestic product outpaces the rate of compound interest it is only a matter of time before the system collapses."

        I am getting much more worried about the US government response so far than the actual recession. I know Bernanke is a student of the Great Depression that he is desparately trying to prevent. But what he and others are doing could well set the stage for hyperinflation down the road and full-scale economic collapse. It just will not be long before China, Japan and others pull the plug.

        As a virologist in my previous working life, I can tell you that there are many infectious diseases where the germ does not cause much damage but it is the body's response to it that causes the damage.


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        • Profile picture of the author Magic Johnson
          Originally Posted by derekwong28 View Post

          Right now the United States is taking the catastrophic debt route to "save the economy". Essentially, Bernanke and Paulson are running a ponzi scheme that dwarfs that of Bernie Madoff. They are paying off investors with the money of new investors. The fed is trying to cover all of the bad debt that has built up over the last decade with more debt. This is logically identical to treating an alcoholic with a bottle of vodka. Due to the nature of the interest being accrued, and the false increase in GDP that was funded by this debt, we are locked into the spiral. Unless the gross domestic product outpaces the rate of compound interest it is only a matter of time before the system collapses."
          Exactly, borrowing out money to failing companies. The gov aint going to see any of this gov funded money repaid. I can vote for the auto makers at least.

          They've been doing below belt business for years. They will continue doing below belt business. China is were the PROFITS are at.

          Costs for manufactoring an auto in the USA is too high. Better just to fed up and admit it, move everything over seas to China.

          It's the sad truth. We could see a far worse outcome to just throw more money away.
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          • Profile picture of the author ExRat
            Hi,

            Yes I chuckled as I heard this on the radio news this morning in the UK - what made it funnier was the 'nothing-unusual-here' way in which it was delivered - surrounded by normal boring news stories, with no tongue-in-cheekness or chuckles afterwards. But I was listening to radio4 which is a bit stuffy.

            This line in particular tickled me -

            "People are too depressed to be sexually active," Flynt said in the press release. "This is very unhealthy as a nation. Americans can do without cars and such but they cannot do without sex."
            So dry it nearly sucked the tea out of my mug.

            They followed with a story about how our Mr. Brown is about to solve all of our problems by firing up the printing-press again and throwing some more fresh green about while the Bank Of England abolishes interest. Absolutely genius...:rolleyes:
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      • Profile picture of the author Ken Strong
        Originally Posted by blackhatcat View Post

        About $6,700 each if you divide it by 300 million.

        Better idea would be to stop handing money out period. That stuff doesn't grow on trees you know, though some think it grows on printing presses.
        It's taxpayers' money, so it wouldn't be a "handout" -- we'd just be getting back some of our own money.

        And where does it grow if not on printing presses? Paper money has no intrinsic reality -- it's just pieces of paper.
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  • Profile picture of the author NickiOZJ
    And THIS is where I would have to draw the line... Honestly, the best thing you can do for the economy is to let some buisnesses FAIL.
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  • Profile picture of the author Scot Standke
    Chris Cuomo on TV this morning, "this is all upside".

    LOL

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    • Profile picture of the author Jacqueline Watson
      When I heard about this I started to
      laugh because a few weeks ago I
      saw the Girls Gone Wild CEO on
      the Tyra Banks show...

      He talked about how he launched
      a new magazine and raked in millions
      of dollars WHILE BEHIND BARS...

      He said, he had to make sure his
      staff of over 4,000 people still
      got paid even if he couldn't be
      physically there.

      He was in jail for something like
      a year...and he was denied bail!!

      I think his company can make
      it through a recession...

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    • Profile picture of the author BrianMcLeod
      Originally Posted by Scot Standke View Post

      Chris Cuomo on TV this morning, "this is all upside".

      LOL

      Scot
      More like all "backside"...

      Personally, I think it's hilarious and the most sober response to this ongoing catastrophe that I've seen yet.

      Of course, the most priceless aspect is the absolute LUNACY of people who are taking it seriously. You should read some of the blog comments out there.

      Bricks for brains...

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      • Profile picture of the author garyv
        As someone with a beautiful wife - and an incredibly beautiful, lovely, and smart daughter, - I think that Larry Flint and Joe Francis are the absolute - bottom of the pond - scum of the earth. They exploit people in their weakest moments for profit, and I guarantee you that they've ruined a great many lives and relationships between the 2 of them.

        Franky I find it extremely hard to comprehend how people can put them on such a pedestal. Especially in a forum like this, that is known for it's hardworking, and yet very generous members.

        I apologize if I sound like the party-pooper here, but Joe Francis is not my hero.

        I'd rather emulate someone like Steven Wagenheim.


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        • Profile picture of the author Scot Standke
          Originally Posted by garyv View Post

          Franky I find it extremely hard to comprehend how people can put them on such a pedestal. Especially in a forum like this, that is known for it's hardworking, and yet very generous members.

          I apologize if I sound like the party-pooper here, but Joe Francis is not my hero.
          Hey Garyv,

          I never put them on a pedestal, I'm just admiring their marketing prowess.

          Talk about thinking on your feet.

          Look at the huge press this has gotten them, all for free.

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        • Profile picture of the author GarrieWilson
          Originally Posted by garyv View Post

          They exploit people in their weakest moments for profit, and I guarantee you that they've ruined a great many lives and relationships between the 2 of them.
          You mean like many many many marketers do?

          Franky I find it extremely hard to comprehend how people can put them on such a pedestal.
          I dont have Flint on a pedestal but respect him. He is a great marketer and stands up for his rights and yours. The gguy went to jail for years to keep from telling sources. (If memory serves me that was the reason.)

          Watch the documentory on him.
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          • Profile picture of the author garyv
            Originally Posted by GarrieWilson View Post

            You mean like many many many marketers do?
            You may be helping me make my point. Can you name any marketers that have ruined some one's life - and that you respect?

            <insert> Mother's Jumping off of Bridge speech here. </insert>

            He may be a genius at manipulating the system. But that doesn't mean he's standing up for any one's rights. He's just twisting our Bill of Rights out of personal greed.

            I can respect a person's right to free speech. As long as that free speech is not hurting anyone. It's already been proven time and again that the Larry Flint - Joe Francis type of "Free Speech" is not always pain free. And in fact hurts a lot of people.
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            • Profile picture of the author GarrieWilson
              Originally Posted by garyv View Post

              You may be helping me make my point. Can you name any marketers that have ruined some one's life - and that you respect?
              Nope but I respect Flint and get this...

              ...I HATE porn.

              I don't watch it or look aat it but I do think it's everyones right to buy it, make it, watch it, etc.

              As far as marketers, I can name some that produce JUNK but I respect them as marketers. For their ability to create a stir and sell.




              He may be a genius at manipulating the system. But that doesn't mean he's standing up for any one's rights. He's just twisting our Bill of Rights out of personal greed.
              LOL. Actually it does. When anyone stands up for their rights, they are standing up for yours by default.
              I can respect a person's right to free speech. As long as that free speech is not hurting anyone. It's already been proven time and again that the Larry Flint - Joe Francis type of "Free Speech" is not always pain free. And in fact hurts a lot of people.
              So do video games. You gonna stop selling your xbox manual? Don't say it's different because it's not. You are profiting from an industry that gets people addicted to gaming and is linked directly to causing obesity, breakups and in some studies, overt violence.

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    uniformstease.com is one of the uk,s fastest growing soft porn websites. i cannot see us under any circumstances approaching dour scottish prime minister Gordon Brown for any help....... unless it was to leave the country
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  • Profile picture of the author Debbie Songster
    As someone with a beautiful wife - and an incredibly beautiful, lovely, and smart daughter, - I think that Larry Flint and Joe Francis are the absolute - bottom of the pond - scum of the earth. They exploit people in their weakest moments for profit, and I guarantee you that they've ruined a great many lives and relationships between the 2 of them.

    Franky I find it extremely hard to comprehend how people can put them on such a pedestal. Especially in a forum like this, that is known for it's hardworking, and yet very generous members.

    I apologize if I sound like the party-pooper here, but Joe Francis is not my hero.

    I'd rather emulate someone like Steven Wagenheim.


    Steven Wagenheim for president!!!
    Ahhh isn't Gary sweet.
    Hey, Steven ... You've got a groupie

    On the reality side...
    Larry Flint and Joe Francis don't ruin people's lives - - People ruin people's lives. There will always be people who lead and people who follow.
    Everyone has a brain in their head - some choose to use it and others don't

    The bottom line, as adults we are responsible for the things that we do and the decisions we make. There are consequences to everything we do - some good, some bad.
    The Larry Flint and Joe Francis of the world can't make you do anything you don't want to do.
    We own the choices we make everyday - people need to stop blaming others for their poor choices.
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    • Profile picture of the author LEAPresearch
      My question is "how does Larry plan to pay us back?" LOL
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    • Profile picture of the author garyv
      It is true - that we all make our own decisions. But there are times in peoples' lives when they are most vulnerable to suggestion. Many of us have been in dire situations, where we may have taken money from people like Joe Francis, only to completely regret it later.

      My point is - people that prey on other people in their weekest moments, should also be held accountable.

      Would you let your Grandmother w/ alzheimers buy a plastic ring for $10K from a door to door jewelry salesman? Would'nt you say that the salesman should take most of that blame? Your Grandmother is after all an adult.

      PS - Anyone with an 18 year old daughter knows that most of them don't think with an adult mindset.

      Originally Posted by Debbie Songster View Post

      Ahhh isn't Gary sweet.
      Hey, Steven ... You've got a groupie

      On the reality side...
      Larry Flint and Joe Francis don't ruin people's lives - - People ruin people's lives. There will always be people who lead and people who follow.
      Everyone has a brain in their head - some choose to use it and others don't

      The bottom line, as adults we are responsible for the things that we do and the decisions we make. There are consequences to everything we do - some good, some bad.
      The Larry Flint and Joe Francis of the world can't make you do anything you don't want to do.
      We own the choices we make everyday - people need to stop blaming others for their poor choices.
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      • Profile picture of the author John Rowe
        Originally Posted by garyv View Post

        Anyone with an 18 year old daughter knows that most of them don't think with an adult mindset.
        Your post reminded me of my parents.

        Kudos to your daughter for managing to keep her youthful mindset this long. Your comment makes me wonder how she's managed to pull it off.

        But fear not, it sounds like you'll have the spark of youth stomped out of her in no time. That's the power of the wonderfully self-righteous adult mindset.
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        • Profile picture of the author garyv
          Originally Posted by John Rowe View Post

          Your post reminded me of my parents.

          Kudos to your daughter for managing to keep her youthful mindset this long. Your comment makes me wonder how she's managed to pull it off.

          But fear not, it sounds like you'll have the spark of youth stomped out of her in no time. That's the power of the wonderfully self-righteous adult mindset.
          If standing up for my daughter against evil manipulators makes me "self-righteous", that's fine. I'll gladly take on that label. I'd rather have my feelings hurt, then to wake up at 3am to find a blurred out picture of my daughter on a Girls Gone Wild commercial.
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          • Profile picture of the author AndrewCavanagh
            A fabulous way for him to get millions of dollars worth of free publicity for his magazine and business.

            Kindest regards,
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          • Profile picture of the author John Rowe
            Originally Posted by garyv View Post

            If standing up for my daughter against evil manipulators makes me "self-righteous", that's fine. I'll gladly take on that label. I'd rather have my feelings hurt, then to wake up at 3am to find a blurred out picture of my daughter on a Girls Gone Wild commercial.
            Ignoring what I quoted, and my point, tells me you understood me.

            The "standing up for my daughter against evil manipulators" is a very pretty sentence. It has nothing to do with what I said, but hey, it's pretty.

            Ironic too, when you place the "standing up for" bit, together with the "18 year old daughter not thinking with an adult mindset" bit.

            Just sayin'.
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      • Profile picture of the author Chris Lockwood
        Originally Posted by garyv View Post

        Would you let your Grandmother w/ alzheimers buy a plastic ring for $10K from a door to door jewelry salesman?
        Funny you should ask, because that just happened to us Tuesday.
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  • Profile picture of the author Debbie Songster
    I love this ...
    Francis said that if invited, he and Flynt would drive across the country in a hybrid vehicle to present their plans to Congress.
    an obvious dig to the big shots who flew out to the talks - each in their private jets to the tune of thousands of dollars per hour in costs...
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  • Profile picture of the author westernseo
    It's just another media stunt just like the rest of the world!
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  • Profile picture of the author Amy Bass
    Wait, he want's stimulus money? I thought that this industry was "Self- Stimulating"
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  • Profile picture of the author IMChick
    Gotta give the guy credit for being a marketing genius, pond scum sucking aside. His point is well taken at face value that solid business decisions endure, the exact opposite of how to qualify for a bailout.

    On it's face, his businesses wouldn't qualify unless he turned into a bank holding company.
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    • Profile picture of the author Killer Joe
      Originally Posted by IMChick View Post

      On it's face, his businesses wouldn't qualify unless he turned into a bank holding company.
      They both have holding companies, alright. You can bank on that...:p

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  • Profile picture of the author mix_daylee
    Larry just wants to get his "Money Shot" across the media. Great advertising ploy.
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  • Profile picture of the author Adam Kenzington
    This all fits in with Obama's recovery plan. The money could be justified by the fact that if Flynt got the bailout money, think of all the out of work pretty girls he would be helping. And the added benefit is you would be stimulating more than just the economy! :p
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  • Profile picture of the author Debbie Songster
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    Originally Posted by garyv
    They exploit people in their weakest moments for profit, and I guarantee you that they've ruined a great many lives and relationships between the 2 of them.
    You mean like many many many marketers do?

    You took the words right out of my mouth/hand/keyboard.... what ever
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