Newbies This Is How The Real Money Is Made Online!

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This Is How The Big Boys Market Online

Do this and I guarantee you will have success:

  • Create a info product of interest to your target market. Make sure it gives a lot of quality information. Make it a great product.
  • Create a sales page and price your product around $10 to $20.
  • Sign up with digiresults and pay your affiliates 100% commissions.
  • Get out and network with people in your niche and on affiliate marketing forums to get people to promote for you.
  • Once people buy your product send them to a squeeze page and get them to optin. You could also put links to your squeeze page in your product.


This will allow you to build a huge targeted list for free. Anyone can do this right now no matter how broke you are.Yes, theoretically you can get more people to optin by giving away something free, but there are 2 problems with that:

  • You are going to have to drive the traffic yourself.
  • You are going to get alot of useless freebie seekers that will never make you any money.

The beauty of this strategy is that your affiliates do all the hard work and that everyone you add to your list will be a buyer. Your entire list will have people that are ready and willing to spend money. This is 1000 times better than a list of freebie seekers.


How To Really Cash In

Now when you are ready to start making big money create another more expensive product and upsell your customers after they buy your first product. Don't pay any commissions on it. This will make you a lot of money and best of all its completely automated so you don't have to do anything.

Here's an example. Let's say your affiliates are sending you 1,000 sales per month and of those sales you are only able to get 20% of them to buy your back-end product. Let's also say that your back-end product costs $47.

20% of 1000 would mean that you would make 200 sales of your back-end product, and 200 x $47= $9400

You would make $9400 on complete autopilot. All you would have to do is handle customer services issues and you could easily outsource that.

Now let's see what would happen if your affiliates sent you 2000 sales and you got 30% of them to buy your backend product?

600 x $47= $28200

That's $28200 sent to you while you pretty much do nothing. How much could you make if you were to do this same thing across a bunch of other niches?

Do You See Where I am Going With This?

It is not difficult to make money online. People just spend too much too time doing the wrong things. Just create a couple of great products, get some affiliates, set up a sales funnel, and you will be making money in no time.

And its not even difficult to create a product. Just research your subject, take what you learn, and create a product.That's all there is to it.

If you don't see the massive potential of this strategy, then you need to quit IM. This strategy could easily make you a millionaire.

Now Take Action!

Any Questions?



Goodluck,

Mr. Smith
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  • Profile picture of the author g36
    Nice thread you have here.

    If you want to create product, you need to have lots of knowledge, at least for the product you want to create.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Hill
      Originally Posted by g36 View Post

      Nice thread you have here.

      If you want to create product, you need to have lots of knowledge, at least for the product you want to create.

      No you don't... Like Mr. Smith said, go out and do some research. You don't have to be an expert... just a guy who has a solution to a problem. The complexity of the solution to the problem is up to you.

      Mike Hill
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    • Profile picture of the author Juan L Costa
      Originally Posted by g36 View Post

      Nice thread you have here.

      If you want to create product, you need to have lots of knowledge, at least for the product you want to create.
      Not really necessary if you can outsource the product creation to an expert
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    • Profile picture of the author bastion
      Originally Posted by g36 View Post

      Nice thread you have here.

      If you want to create product, you need to have lots of knowledge, at least for the product you want to create.
      If you read only 5 books on some subject, you will know more then 90% of other people about that. So, today is easy to be "expert" in almost much everything.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Hill
    Now there's something you could charge for! Great idea Mr. Smith, great idea... Now let's see if anyone takes massive action on this solid strategy and hits it out of the park.

    Mike Hill
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  • Profile picture of the author Jermaine Tabor
    Definitely a good way to build up a targeted buyer list.
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  • Profile picture of the author philiptrav
    Making the product is the trick, I guess you have an ebook in mind?
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Hill
      Originally Posted by philiptrav View Post

      Making the product is the trick, I guess you have an ebook in mind?
      It's not hard making an ebook, audio course, video course, or whatever... Go into a market where you already know something about.
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  • Profile picture of the author timpears
    Are you familiar with digiresults and how it works? Do they have good results from this site? I had never heard of them before I read this thread.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Hill
      Originally Posted by timpears View Post

      Are you familiar with digiresults and how it works? Do they have good results from this site? I had never heard of them before I read this thread.

      Good Results? Yes, they process the transaction flawlessly... That's what they do, they don't get you the deals with affiliates necessarily. That's up to you to contact others in your market and strike up a relationship.
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  • Profile picture of the author imjustgtd
    You're right, this is a good method to make a living online. A ton of people do it. Lots of content creation going on though, you need more and more products coming out to offset the dying off of older products. I really like this point too-

    Originally Posted by SPMassie View Post

    It is not difficult to make money online. People just spend too much too time doing the wrong things. Just create a couple of great products, get some affiliates, set up a sales funnel, and you will be making money in no time.
    Most people are looking for $10-$100 a day things when just as much time could be put into making $500-$5k a day methods. I think it has to do with ease of access to the info, and the way in which different people think about money.
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    • Profile picture of the author Roseaff
      [QUOTE
      Most people are looking for $10-$100 a day things when just as much time could be put into making $500-$5k a day methods. I think it has to do with ease of access to the info, and the way in which different people think about money.[/QUOTE]

      This is all the inspiration i needed for the day! thanks! Reminds me to think big. Summarises a book i am reading by Bob Proctor - Born Rich. Talks about our mentality towards money!
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    • Profile picture of the author jbrite2
      Originally Posted by imjustgtd View Post

      You're right, this is a good method to make a living online. A ton of people do it. Lots of content creation going on though, you need more and more products coming out to offset the dying off of older products. I really like this point too-



      Most people are looking for $10-$100 a day things when just as much time could be put into making $500-$5k a day methods. I think it has to do with ease of access to the info, and the way in which different people think about money.
      Dearie thank God you are here saying this. Please, and please could you just help me with a tip to making atleast 1K to 2K daily? My instinct tells me there are possibilities of earning this way daily. This has made me, as a newbie, emptied my account searching for such useful infos to bogus claimers with empty infos. Now I am dead broke and bills are about suffocating me. Before It's over with me could you please save me with any useful info/tip that can give me the reality of your your word. I will be eternally grateful to you. And with time like to be real close and loyal to you. Thanks may God decorate you with great honor and glory.
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    • Profile picture of the author jbrite2
      Thanks a million for your generousity and selfless helping hand. May the God of heaven who has guaranteed 'that the liberal soul shall be made fat ensure the unseizing fatness of your account. Now my next war and challenge is figuring out a hot product. Still will be needing some help around that.
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  • Profile picture of the author Diane S
    I agree totally that a list generated by a free report or newsletter is not a very high converting list. A list of people who have purchased something of yours is much more likely to purchase again. Good advice, and I know it is good advice because I have tested this and found it to be true.
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    • Profile picture of the author jambaman2
      Originally Posted by Diane S View Post

      A list of people who have purchased something of yours is much more likely to purchase again. Good advice, and I know it is good advice because I have tested this and found it to be true.
      Hmmm, I would truly be interested to know what you or anyone else is selling that would prove this to be the case.

      So far, I have purchased more WSO's than I'd ever care to admit to.

      There is not one WSO I have bought which would make me want to buy ANYTHING again from the WSO seller.

      Of course, every one of these WSO's was highly rated by WF members (which is what caused me to make the purchase in the first place!)....
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  • Profile picture of the author George Wright
    You solved a big problem for me.

    Excuse me everybody if this should have been obvious to me, however, this is the best of both worlds, it's like a freebie for the product owner, but, instead of getting a list of freebie seekers you get a list of buyers. I almost feel embarrassed to admit I just had an aha moment.

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    • Profile picture of the author phil.wheatley
      Originally Posted by George Wright View Post

      You solved a big problem for me.

      I almost feel embarrassed to admit I just had an aha moment.

      George Wright
      Don't feel embarrassed, I just wet my knickers when I read this post, and I'm a guy!!!

      With all that said, I have tried this sort of thing before, the only problem is actually getting those affiliates to promote your stuff, they get bombarded with offers of promoting products everyday. Also, you need to show the product has converted well for yourself or others. You could use PPC though to test it.

      Of course, once you have one JV on board and it is converting, then you can show that to other JVs.

      Phil
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    • Originally Posted by George Wright View Post

      You solved a big problem for me.

      Excuse me everybody if this should have been obvious to me, however, this is the best of both worlds, it's like a freebie for the product owner, but, instead of getting a list of freebie seekers you get a list of buyers. I almost feel embarrassed to admit I just had an aha moment.

      George Wright
      Haha don't worry about it. That's what makes forums awesoome. Everybody can learn from each other. It's inspiring
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  • Profile picture of the author JustFelix
    Great topic, but I think beginners will still have a hard time following this guide. Just the beginners out there.
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    • Profile picture of the author design2convert
      This is really the nice way to start earning online for newbies. Really nice effort. Thanks.
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      • Profile picture of the author arkhamindustries
        excellent information. I am trying to learn more about this exact strategy. I have the basis for a plan in mind but need to work on it more and sort out some of the details
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    • Profile picture of the author Qamar
      Originally Posted by JustFelix View Post

      Great topic, but I think beginners will still have a hard time following this guide. Just the beginners out there.
      This is where many beginners go wrong. It'ds not hard yto create a high quality ebook IF you know the systems and the tricks.

      Many newcomers are made to think only the gurus can or deserved to be product owners whereas they only deserve to be the little guy.

      Stop that kind of thinking. The OP is right about product creation. Anyone who has decent education, can read and write, CAN create a product of their own quite easily.


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    • Profile picture of the author Mary McLean
      I agree with you there. It may not be difficult, but it is hard for newbies as they have no idea of the language, ratios, market or marketing for that matter.

      I guarantee if I asked those who say it's easy, to go design a house for me (I was a builder, so I'd soon pick up the bloopers) or asked them to deliver a baby, it would be hard for them to know where to begin also.

      Sometimes it's easy to forget that beginners are in kindy, watching people in IM Uni breezing through their work, telling them level 12 stuff is easy when the beginner hasn't even learned their ABC's yet, because no one told them there are skill sets of knowledge to wrap their heads around...continually!

      But, basically, what is being said by the learned, is correct. KISSystem
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  • Profile picture of the author EugeneA
    Again, this is a great Idea.

    If anyone takes this up then I'm sure they will be on their way to greatness.

    I'm always looking for ways to build passive income streams.
    Thanks again
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      • Profile picture of the author mikeb1
        Great share and this is definitely the way to go especially for a newbie, the trick is to learn this straight off the bat instead of trying to figure all the affiliate stuff
        out and end up making very little or nothing in the process,when you see your on product out there and its making money you will be madly inspired and product creation will become second nature.

        Spend the time studying this and working it out and you will be streets ahead of 99% of other marketers out there...it will take you longer first couple of times out, than say promoting an affiliate product,but the pros far outweigh the cons.. and thanks OP for the share for the affiliate site... this is one I never heard of
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  • Profile picture of the author Mitsakis
    Originally Posted by SPMassie View Post

    Once people buy your product send them to a squeeze page and get them to optin. You could also put links to your squeeze page in your product.
    how would you do that?
    why will they want to optin to your list?
    most of them wouldn't unless you force them to optin in order to be able to download your product. but that's probably against TOS.
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    • Profile picture of the author George Wright
      Originally Posted by xthon View Post

      how would you do that?
      why will they want to optin to your list?
      most of them wouldn't unless you force them to optin in order to be able to download your product. but that's probably against TOS.
      There are so many ways to get people to opt in to your list after they buy the first product.

      "Want free updates?" Opt in.

      "Want My next product half off?" Opt In

      "Want to have reprint rights to this eBook?" Opt in.

      I could keep on typing and come up with dozens.

      Not only could you do this from the download page with an optional opt in form you could put the opt in links in your eBook.

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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Hill
      Originally Posted by xthon View Post

      how would you do that?
      why will they want to optin to your list?
      most of them wouldn't unless you force them to optin in order to be able to download your product. but that's probably against TOS.

      WHY would you keep talking yourself out of something instead of finding the solution?

      That's the problem... It's easier to knock holes in something as opposed to going out there, give it everything you got and make it work.

      But that takes THINKING ON YOUR OWN... which most people don't or won't do.

      Sheesh... This guy goes out of his way to share a brilliant idea with everyone and you're here bitching about it. I imagine if you won the lottery you'd be the guy complaining you have to go pick up the check and get your picture taken.

      AM I right?

      If this is your mentality then you will always be broke and you'll always be bitching about whatever...

      Take some dam action, solve the questions you have yourself and get moving on this. Even George above this post gave you some brilliant ideas as well to make these people Opt-In.
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      • Profile picture of the author Mitsakis
        Originally Posted by Mike Hill View Post

        WHY would you keep talking yourself out of something instead of finding the solution?

        That's the problem... It's easier to knock holes in something as opposed to going out there, give it everything you got and make it work.

        But that takes THINKING ON YOUR OWN... which most people don't or won't do.

        Sheesh... This guy goes out of his way to share a brilliant idea with everyone and you're here bitching about it. I imagine if you won the lottery you'd be the guy complaining you have to go pick up the check and get your picture taken.

        AM I right?

        If this is your mentality then you will always be broke and you'll always be bitching about whatever...

        Take some dam action, solve the questions you have yourself and get moving on this. Even George above this post gave you some brilliant ideas as well to make these people Opt-In.
        I am not bitching. I think it is an interesting post. I even thanked OP.
        But instead of adding another useless thanks message I asked a question about his method. I just didn't know how to get people to optin. so i asked to get some ideas. whats the problem with that?
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        • Profile picture of the author Rob Howard
          Originally Posted by xthon View Post

          I am not bitching. I think it is an interesting post. I even thanked OP.
          But instead of adding another useless thanks message I asked a question about his method. I just didn't know how to get people to optin. so i asked to get some ideas. whats the problem with that?
          Solution: Get a script that automatically adds people to your list. This is both legal, ethical, and they get sent immediately to your download page without waiting.

          Rob
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          • Profile picture of the author xohaibx
            Originally Posted by ccmusicman View Post

            Solution: Get a script that automatically adds people to your list. This is both legal, ethical, and they get sent immediately to your download page without waiting.

            Rob
            What script are you referring to Rob? It would be really helpful if you could give a reference Thanks!
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            • Profile picture of the author Rob Howard
              Originally Posted by Mustafa Khundmiri View Post

              What kind of script are you referring to Rob? It would be really helpful if you could give a reference Thanks!
              There are tons:

              DAP, Rapid Action Profits, WSO Pro, Nanacast, DLGuard (I believe), etc.

              I think even digiresults does this, but I'm not sure.

              Any checkout software worth it will allow for the automatic subscription directly to your email list.

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              • Profile picture of the author Syamsul Alam
                Originally Posted by ccmusicman View Post

                There are tons:

                DAP, Rapid Action Profits, WSO Pro, Nanacast, DLGuard (I believe), etc.

                I think even digiresults does this, but I'm not sure.

                Any checkout software worth it will allow for the automatic subscription directly to your email list.

                Rob
                Simpleoneclick also will automatically put your buyer in your list. And it is free.
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                • Profile picture of the author redstanford
                  now i have a question:

                  i see you mention create a sales page. if a blog is getting hardcore traffic and they have a dedicated fan base, do they really need a sales letter? all they really have to do is jsut say hey take a look at this and people will buy.

                  plus i doubt many authority blogs are going to want a flashy sales page on their site. i can see if they were just going to set a mini-site and PPC traffic to it but not when they have an established site many return customers come to daily
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      • Profile picture of the author spideysteve
        Originally Posted by Mike Hill View Post

        But that takes THINKING ON YOUR OWN... which most people don't or won't do.

        Sheesh... This guy goes out of his way to share a brilliant idea with everyone and you're here bitching about it. I imagine if you won the lottery you'd be the guy complaining you have to go pick up the check and get your picture taken.

        AM I right?

        If this is your mentality then you will always be broke and you'll always be bitching about whatever...

        Take some dam action, solve the questions you have yourself and get moving on this.
        Mike you hit it there ... unfortunately the entitlement mentality can be seen everywhere ... what people don't get is that NO ONE owes them anything ... it's up to individuals to BE RESPONSIBLE for their own actions and take ACTION to get what they want.

        Thanks for starting this thread MR Smith ... great info!
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      • Profile picture of the author um1001
        Originally Posted by Mike Hill View Post

        WHY would you keep talking yourself out of something instead of finding the solution?

        That's the problem... It's easier to knock holes in something as opposed to going out there, give it everything you got and make it work.

        But that takes THINKING ON YOUR OWN... which most people don't or won't do.

        Sheesh... This guy goes out of his way to share a brilliant idea with everyone and you're here bitching about it. I imagine if you won the lottery you'd be the guy complaining you have to go pick up the check and get your picture taken.

        AM I right?

        If this is your mentality then you will always be broke and you'll always be bitching about whatever...

        Take some dam action, solve the questions you have yourself and get moving on this. Even George above this post gave you some brilliant ideas as well to make these people Opt-In.
        Mike, I am a big fan of this response. Too many people try to over-complicate things. Deliver value and people will beg to be on your list anyway.

        Guys, choose a "rabid" market, make great products, get paid. That's the secret sauce and I won't even charge you $27 (this time).
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  • Profile picture of the author jaiganeshv
    Looks good on paper... this is the best way to do IM. Gives us room to create products and get affiliates

    Thank you
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  • Profile picture of the author brujah96
    Wow, thank you for this. This is a great idea!
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  • Profile picture of the author danieldroga
    That's a great strategy you got there. You don't really have to be an expert but one should at least have the knowledge to be able to come up with brilliant ideas. Thank you for sharing this with us, it is very helpful.
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  • Profile picture of the author JToneyUK
    Great post "Mr Smith", thanks for sharing this blueprint. While I'm relatively new in the IM game I am quite technical and have started to take action with the usual niche sites, adsense and amazon affiliates etc but have continually read that a list is a must! I have just not quite had the full understanding of how to create a productive list.

    I think a lot of people who create a product (eBook) don't really want to give it away for free, but if it gets the ball rolling, it's the way to go!

    I'll be trying this out for sure, even as just a test!
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  • Profile picture of the author DianaHeuser
    Thank you very much. More valuable information in one free post than a lot of books I have paid for.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gaston Wolf
    Sweet thread, i've been looking for a way to get targeted opt ins!
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    Nice thread, very informative.
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  • Profile picture of the author wealthydon
    Where the work lies is in the quality of the
    product. Anything short of quality, affiliates
    who have credibility to protect will not
    promote even if they get 100% commission.
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    • Profile picture of the author SPMassie
      Originally Posted by wealthydon View Post

      Where the work lies is in the quality of the
      product. Anything short of quality, affiliates
      who have credibility to protect will not
      promote even if they get 100% commission.
      What you say is true but its extremely easy to create a high quality product.

      All you have to do is research your subject and then take what you learn and make a product out of it.

      Think about it like this. If you go out and buy the definitive book on real estate investing, read it, and really learn whats inside. The you will know more about real estate investing than 95% of the worlds population.

      You will be an expert on real estate investing, and yes there will be people that know more than you but who cares? You can now take your new found expertise and teach all the people that know nothing about real estate investing and make a whole lot of money doing it.

      Quality is never in issue if you do the proper research. its either you know what you talking about or you don't, and if you don't you then have no business making a product in the first place
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  • Profile picture of the author clickdoor
    I'm a newbie and I just bought Commission Ignition. I spent my last 37 dollars on the software. I bypassed both up sells and NOW I find out I have to have a domain name and web hosting to even use the damn program and of course that cost money and I have no income whatsoever. Anybody have any ideas or tricks or anything.
    Thanks :confused:
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    • Profile picture of the author Diane S
      Originally Posted by clickdoor View Post

      I'm a newbie and I just bought Commission Ignition. I spent my last 37 dollars on the software. I bypassed both up sells and NOW I find out I have to have a domain name and web hosting to even use the damn program and of course that cost money and I have no income whatsoever. Anybody have any ideas or tricks or anything.
      Thanks :confused:
      Get a refund. Then buy your domain name and get started on your product. Maybe somebody here can recommend reliable cheap hosting. I use HostGator, which is not the cheapest but it is one of the best.
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      • Profile picture of the author Qamar
        Originally Posted by Diane S View Post

        Get a refund. Then buy your domain name and get started on your product. Maybe somebody here can recommend reliable cheap hosting. I use HostGator, which is not the cheapest but it is one of the best.
        Type this url http://www.hostgator.com/xxxxxxx (non aff) on your browser.
        You will get a 404 - PAGE NOT FOUND. Use the code "404PAGE"(without quotes) and you will get a hosting account for 1 cent.

        Make sure to choose the "hatchling plan" if you are totally broke and pay only 1 cent for your hosting account . Otherwise choose any plan that you want.
        Good luck


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    • Profile picture of the author jonj31070
      Originally Posted by clickdoor View Post

      I'm a newbie and I just bought Commission Ignition. I spent my last 37 dollars on the software. I bypassed both up sells and NOW I find out I have to have a domain name and web hosting to even use the damn program and of course that cost money and I have no income whatsoever. Anybody have any ideas or tricks or anything.
      Thanks :confused:

      You can use free services for that to get started. Blogspot.com is free to use.
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  • Profile picture of the author Nathy Curiel
    Never hear of this kind of plan. it is a refreshing idea.
    thanks for sharing it with us .
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  • Profile picture of the author rekerlolz
    This strategy makes complete sense ...thanks for the info.

    Great stuff!
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  • Profile picture of the author Jaymark
    Clear and helpful information. Useful strategy for just about anyone. Is a good way to get started and encouraged to work harder with IM. Appreciate the input and information.
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  • Profile picture of the author Istvan Horvath
    Just a friendly warning about the many affiliates at digiresults:

    Due the stupid script released recently (and then banned) you will receive affiliate applications "en masse" from some retards who would buy your product and asking for refund immediately.

    Do not, repeat DO NOT approve affiliates you don't know.
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    • Profile picture of the author dorianjohn425
      Originally Posted by Istvan Horvath View Post

      Just a friendly warning about the many affiliates at digiresults:

      Due the stupid script released recently (and then banned) you will receive affiliate applications "en masse" from some retards who would buy your product and asking for refund immediately.

      Do not, repeat DO NOT approve affiliates you don't know.
      Yes, I agree...If you can check little info about those who want to be an affiliate, the better
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  • Profile picture of the author Jim X
    I've actually heard of this strategy before. When I first heard it I was interested but didn't really know how to apply it. Hearing it again makes me want to try it!

    It seems like a really great way to build a list of buyers with little effort. Thank you so much for sharing this with us.

    James
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  • Profile picture of the author Heidi White
    The other big boys use WSO Pro - no?

    They have affiliate systems in place as well - and you may not get the same slew of affiliate applicants - but at least you can communicate with them easily in the WF - check out how many posts they've had, whether other affiliates have approved them and more.

    You can probably worry a little bit less about mass refunds, cookie stuffers, and other nasty untidy things..

    Heidi
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Hill
      Originally Posted by Heidi White View Post

      The other big boys use WSO Pro - no?

      They have affiliate systems in place as well - and you may not get the same slew of affiliate applicants - but at least you can communicate with them easily in the WF - check out how many posts they've had, whether other affiliates have approved them and more.

      You can probably worry a little bit less about mass refunds, cookie stuffers, and other nasty untidy things..

      Heidi


      Don't sit back and wait for affiliates to sign up with you... Approach top marketers in your niche one at a time, give them a copy of your product and explain they get 100% of the profits for their participation.

      That way you will never get affiliates you don't know!
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  • Profile picture of the author ttcbird
    I really like this idea. I have heard it before but it just dawned on me after reading what it could really do.

    My question is how exactly do you promote a product to get affiliates to sign up? Do you go to the JV section of WF? If your niche isn't IM where is the place to promote your JV?

    Also who do you use for an affiliate program? Clickbank?
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Hill
      Originally Posted by ttcbird View Post

      I really like this idea. I have heard it before but it just dawned on me after reading what it could really do.

      My question is how exactly do you promote a product to get affiliates to sign up? Do you go to the JV section of WF? If your niche isn't IM where is the place to promote your JV?

      Also who do you use for an affiliate program? Clickbank?

      No, to get the very best quality affiliates for your product you want to go directly to the marketers in your market that are hitting it out of the park. Approach them, strike up a conversation. Don't just lay it on them...

      Send them a free copy... get their interest and then approach them for 100% commissions. It's all in the approach... Think Gorilla Marketing for the approach!

      PS. Like the OP pointed out... you can use Digiresults
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      • Profile picture of the author ttcbird
        Originally Posted by Mike Hill View Post

        No, to get the very best quality affiliates for your product you want to go directly to the marketers in your market that are hitting it out of the park. Approach them, strike up a conversation. Don't just lay it on them...

        Send them a free copy... get their interest and then approach them for 100% commissions. It's all in the approach... Think Gorilla Marketing for the approach!

        PS. Like the OP pointed out... you can use Digiresults
        How do you find the people in your niche that are authority? Where do you look and how do you research their history?


        Thanks,

        Travis
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        • Profile picture of the author Mike Hill
          Originally Posted by ttcbird View Post

          How do you find the people in your niche that are authority? Where do you look and how do you research their history?


          Thanks,

          Travis
          Get involved in your niche... Become active in the forums of your niche, subscribe to people's lists in your niche... look for the solutions to your niches problems...

          Do all of those things and the authority within that niche will reveal themselves. You cannot expect to know who the authority is, or what state your niche is in if you are on the outside looking in.

          Participate! Get active and you will soon see!
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    • Profile picture of the author Tony_Brayley
      Originally Posted by ttcbird View Post

      I really like this idea. I have heard it before but it just dawned on me after reading what it could really do.

      My question is how exactly do you promote a product to get affiliates to sign up? Do you go to the JV section of WF? If your niche isn't IM where is the place to promote your JV?

      Also who do you use for an affiliate program? Clickbank?
      Hey there,

      Here's a little shortcut for you:
      • Go to clickbank.com and look up products that are in your niche.
      • Find the ones with as high a gravity as you can. 50+ would be great.
      • Then look at their sales pages and make sure they have an opti-in box. That way you know they are building a list and most likely already have a list that they can promote to.
      • Fire off as many emails as you can to those product owners. Word your emails carefully and you'll be amazed at what can come out of it.
      Best of luck,

      Tony Brayley.
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  • Profile picture of the author Stephen Lessey
    This is a great method that definitely works, the only tip I would add is to have a pre launch on the WF or a WSO. This way when your affiliates ask you for metrics you can show then conversion rates.

    Because no one wants to promote a product that just doesn't sell
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    • Profile picture of the author Redsoxx49
      Especially when your getting 100% of the profits,right? Good tip!
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    • Profile picture of the author Jamesgregory
      Originally Posted by Stephen Lessey View Post

      This is a great method that definitely works, the only tip I would add is to have a pre launch on the WF or a WSO. This way when your affiliates ask you for metrics you can show then conversion rates.

      Because no one wants to promote a product that just doesn't sell
      This is great input. Having metrics definitely helps!!

      And another point to make if I may... newbies STOP focusing on these 'traffic generating' systems. Even if you get a ton of traffic, most of it isn't targeted enough to be worth your efforts. Freebie seekers mostly anyway. Find affiliates with proven buyers for your product, as mentioned. Follow these instructions instead of getting caught in all this TRAFFIC hype.

      Want to know "The Secret" to targeted traffic? Get affiliates! Do exactly what this thread says! There you go.. hopefully this thread and my input just saved you countless hours of frustration and hundreds of dollars, wasting time and money going after traffic products
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  • Profile picture of the author lowkey786
    wow im gonna pass this onto one of my newbie friends
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    • Profile picture of the author crismacana
      It is not difficult to make money online. People just spend too much too time doing the wrong things. Just create a couple of great products, get some affiliates, set up a sales funnel, and you will be making money in no time.

      And its not even difficult to create a product. Just research your subject, take what you learn, and create a product.That's all there is to it.

      If you don't see the massive potential of this strategy, then you need to quit IM. This strategy could easily make you a millionaire.
      Hi, I am a newbie in IM myself, great post BTW. I have a question. What do you mean by "product"? is it a tool (IM tool, SEO tool, etc) or a thing (laptops, cellphones, etc) that you own? Sorry for this question. I am just confused, but I am very interested in your way. Thanks!
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      • Profile picture of the author Mike Hill
        Originally Posted by crismacana View Post

        Hi, I am a newbie in IM myself, great post BTW. I have a question. What do you mean by "product"? is it a tool (IM tool, SEO tool, etc) or a thing (laptops, cellphones, etc) that you own? Sorry for this question. I am just confused, but I am very interested in your way. Thanks!
        The word "product" in this instance is refereed to an information product. Meaning an ebook; audio recording; video recording; membership site or any combination thereof.

        Information is the product, just like the videos you are creating on your website in your sig file... The custom designed social media plan you create for your clients can be turned into a system and put into a video course. That is information marketing and that is a product!
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        • Profile picture of the author DaveWildash
          This strategy is essentially what Lee McIntyre has been doing for the last couple of years, so it is indeed how the real money is made online.
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          • Profile picture of the author budfox
            This advice would be a lot more credible with a case study attached. I mean, I have read the same thing in numerous recent WSO's, especially Calvin Woon's.

            Just for fun I looked through the first ten pages of Digiresults just now. They have 27 results per page. I was looking for non-IM results. After all, your post is addressing newbies in the subject line - you are not suggesting that newbies create info-products about IM or making money online (when they have never made a dime themselves) are you?

            No that would not make sense unless you are suggesting that everybody participate in the "IM ponzi scheme," that is, the way to make money online is to teach people to make money online, etc.

            There were five non-IM products I could find out of the 270 posted on the first ten pages of DR. One was cheesecake recipes, one was golf swing, one was parenting, two were diets.

            Obviously you are not suggesting that newbies create info-products about IM (are you??????????????)

            ...so lets take the first one , Cheesecake recipes. You said to make the 100% commission product GREAT. OK. I guess that means put some great cheescake recipes in that, and the affiliates are going to come running to sell it so I can build my cheesecake list?

            ...OK so lets go with Golf Swing then. Make the product great. OK, understood, I will make it great. An army of affiliates will no doubt all join up and start promoting my golf swing product, there must be just a ton of guys with golfer lists who are reading digiresults just waiting for such a product. Right?

            Now, after I build this huge list of cheesecake addicts or golfers who spend time online - I am supposed to make an EVEN BETTER product then the "great" product that I used to get the affiliates to build my list? That means my "great" product doesn't have the best stuff, right? I must save the REALLY good cheesecake recipes (or the really effective golf swing tips) for the mailing list promo?

            Appreciate you clearing this up, thanks.
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            • Profile picture of the author Mike Hill
              Originally Posted by budfox View Post

              This advice would be a lot more credible with a case study attached. I mean, I have read the same thing in numerous recent WSO's, especially Calvin Woon's.
              Why do you need success stories? To prove to you how easy it is? Why not YOU become the success story? Why do you need confirmation on something before you'll give it an honest go?

              I think it's because you don't believe in yourself, because if you did you wouldn't need proof... just an idea! Do you think Neil Armstrong needed proof before landing on the moon? Christ imagine if he said he needed proof before he would do it...

              If you see proof what does that prove? Does it then mean that you can do it? Absolutely NOT... You get out what you put in so I guess you'll always be broke or always looking for something that is proven!

              Good luck with that!
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            • Profile picture of the author Mike Hill
              Originally Posted by budfox View Post


              No that would not make sense unless you are suggesting that everybody participate in the "IM ponzi scheme," that is, the way to make money online is to teach people to make money online, etc.
              Ponzi scheme??? You are way off, do you even know what a Ponzi Scheme is? Google it...

              The OP never suggested that people create products in the IM niche about making money. I don't know where you got that from. But even if he had do you not have enough brain power to think of doing it in another market?

              Why does everybody wait to be told exactly what to do?

              "Hey push this button and then that one... Why didn't you push the enter button... Duh because you didn't tell me to!"

              Stop acting like a child and start thinking on your own. Adapt and overcome. But I guess if you think this is a Ponzi Scheme then I don't think you will get very far doing the actual thinking on your own.

              By the way you write your post and taking into account the thoughts you have shared with us, clearly demonstrates you will NOT succeed in this business. You like to add things on your own accord to the original post and actually believe what you are writing as the truth.

              Man I'd hate to live in your cynical world...
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            • Profile picture of the author scrofford
              Originally Posted by budfox View Post

              This advice would be a lot more credible with a case study attached. I mean, I have read the same thing in numerous recent WSO's, especially Calvin Woon's.

              Just for fun I looked through the first ten pages of Digiresults just now. They have 27 results per page. I was looking for non-IM results. After all, your post is addressing newbies in the subject line - you are not suggesting that newbies create info-products about IM or making money online (when they have never made a dime themselves) are you?

              No that would not make sense unless you are suggesting that everybody participate in the "IM ponzi scheme," that is, the way to make money online is to teach people to make money online, etc.

              There were five non-IM products I could find out of the 270 posted on the first ten pages of DR. One was cheesecake recipes, one was golf swing, one was parenting, two were diets.

              Obviously you are not suggesting that newbies create info-products about IM (are you??????????????)

              ...so lets take the first one , Cheesecake recipes. You said to make the 100% commission product GREAT. OK. I guess that means put some great cheescake recipes in that, and the affiliates are going to come running to sell it so I can build my cheesecake list?

              ...OK so lets go with Golf Swing then. Make the product great. OK, understood, I will make it great. An army of affiliates will no doubt all join up and start promoting my golf swing product, there must be just a ton of guys with golfer lists who are reading digiresults just waiting for such a product. Right?

              Now, after I build this huge list of cheesecake addicts or golfers who spend time online - I am supposed to make an EVEN BETTER product then the "great" product that I used to get the affiliates to build my list? That means my "great" product doesn't have the best stuff, right? I must save the REALLY good cheesecake recipes (or the really effective gold swing tips) for the mailing list promo?

              Appreciate you clearing this up, thanks.
              There are millions of other types of affiliate networks out on the internet. You don't have to use digiresults. Do a search in Google and you can find lots of different options.
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            • Profile picture of the author Mike Hill
              Originally Posted by budfox View Post

              ...OK so lets go with Golf Swing then. Make the product great. OK, understood, I will make it great. An army of affiliates will no doubt all join up and start promoting my golf swing product, there must be just a ton of guys with golfer lists who are reading digiresults just waiting for such a product. Right?
              Think outside the box... of course there aren't going to be an army of affiliates in those niches going to Digiresults. It's up to YOU to find them. The OP is just giving you an avenue.

              You don't want to wait for an army of affiliates either. You want to control the amount of affiliates you get. So approach those people in your market yourself who are at a higher level than you are and let them sell your product to their lists.

              Keep doing this and you will sell a ton.


              Now, after I build this huge list of cheesecake addicts or golfers who spend time online - I am supposed to make an EVEN BETTER product then the "great" product that I used to get the affiliates to build my list? That means my "great" product doesn't have the best stuff, right? I must save the REALLY good cheesecake recipes (or the really effective gold swing tips) for the mailing list promo?
              When you create a great product you DO NOT create a product about every last thing in your market. You solve ONE problem and do it well. Do it better than anyone else.

              Then you create another product that is also great that solves another similar problem in your niche. They all have more than one problem and if you think not then you really aren't looking hard enough now are you.

              You have to be able to think out of the box and on your own in this business. If you cannot then you aren't going to succeed, you will still be stuck on the mechanics and not be able to move forward.

              And if you are having trouble finding a good market how about you go out in your city and interact with people. Interact with others and really listen to what they are talking about, the problems they are having, the complaints. There is enough information right there to keep a product creator busy for the rest of his or her life.

              Everyone has problems they want solved NOW. It's up to you to put it all together but like I said if you cannot think on your own without exact steps then you are going to get lost real quick.
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          • Profile picture of the author The Wizard of Oz
            Sounds great!

            Is there a free button I can push to get it done on auto?
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          • Profile picture of the author zmorris
            Oh no! You let out the secret to internet marketing that we didn't want all the newbies to find out about!

            Just kidding. Excellent source of information.
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          • Profile picture of the author TaoMarx
            Wow! Thanks for the post and cheers for all the veterans responses and tips, completing and enhancing the already marvelous informations!

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          • Profile picture of the author Brad789
            Great post - the template sounds like it will fit almost any market from baking to fishing and beyond.

            Research is a lot of fun - the benefit of all that is that you may get into areas you always wanted to learn about anyway. No better way to learn while you earn.

            Sales funnel may be a challenge if the list isn't ready to convert. Do you believe there is a "good time" and a "bad time" to make the initial offer. For example is Christmas time a bad time or a good time? Better yet - does it really matter.

            Seems like everyone wants to improve their lot - regardless of the season. But if you see a stronger time in the market - how to you pick it out and make it convert?

            Best of luck - you got the bones of a great info product right here !
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          • Profile picture of the author rimam1
            Dude, that's smart. Fitness blogger Craig Ballantyne has been telling people to do that also.

            Stop being an affiliate and become a content producer. Reward your affiliates with 100% commissions and build a really powerful list.
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        • Profile picture of the author crismacana
          Originally Posted by Mike Hill View Post

          The word "product" in this instance is refereed to an information product. Meaning an ebook; audio recording; video recording; membership site or any combination thereof.

          Information is the product, just like the videos you are creating on your website in your sig file... The custom designed social media plan you create for your clients can be turned into a system and put into a video course. That is information marketing and that is a product!
          Wow, Thanks mike. So, I can also use my skills to make a product.
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  • Profile picture of the author Donnak1
    Originally Posted by SPMassie View Post

    This Is How The Big Boys Market Online

    Do this and I guarantee you will have success:

    • Create a info product of interest to your target market. Make sure it gives a lot of quality information. Make it a great product.
    • Create a sales page and price your product around $10 to $20.
    • Sign up with digiresults and pay your affiliates 100% commissions.
    • Get out and network with people in your niche and on affiliate marketing forums to get people to promote for you.
    • Once people buy your product send them to a squeeze page and get them to optin. You could also put links to your squeeze page in your product.


    This will allow you to build a huge targeted list for free. Anyone can do this right now no matter how broke you are.Yes, theoretically you can get more people to optin by giving away something free, but there are 2 problems with that:

    • You are going to have to drive the traffic yourself.
    • You are going to get alot of useless freebie seekers that will never make you any money.

    The beauty of this strategy is that your affiliates do all the hard work and that everyone you add to your list will be a buyer. Your entire list will have people that are ready and willing to spend money. This is 1000 times better than a list of freebie seekers.


    How To Really Cash In

    Now when you are ready to start making big money create another more expensive product and upsell your customers after they buy your first product. Don't pay any commissions on it. This will make you a lot of money and best of all its completely automated so you don't have to do anything.

    Here's an example. Let's say your affiliates are sending you 1,000 sales per month and of those sales you are only able to get 20% of them to buy your back-end product. Let's also say that your back-end product costs $47.

    20% of 1000 would mean that you would make 200 sales of your back-end product, and 200 x $47= $9400

    You would make $9400 on complete autopilot. All you would have to do is handle customer services issues and you could easily outsource that.

    Now let's see what would happen if your affiliates sent you 2000 sales and you got 30% of them to buy your backend product?

    600 x $47= $28200

    That's $28200 sent to you while you pretty much do nothing. How much could you make if you were to do this same thing across a bunch of other niches?

    Do You See Where I am Going With This?

    It is not difficult to make money online. People just spend too much too time doing the wrong things. Just create a couple of great products, get some affiliates, set up a sales funnel, and you will be making money in no time.

    And its not even difficult to create a product. Just research your subject, take what you learn, and create a product.That's all there is to it.

    If you don't see the massive potential of this strategy, then you need to quit IM. This strategy could easily make you a millionaire.

    Now Take Action!

    Any Questions?



    Goodluck,

    Mr. Smith
    I loved your post......so many newbies, myself included spend alot of time running in circles....there is so much info (and I know essentially they all say the same thing) and so many gurus...I would love to make money online as I am unemployed at the moment...how does one decide what kind of product to make that will sell?
    Any ideas?

    Thanks,
    Donna
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    • Profile picture of the author SPMassie
      Originally Posted by Donnak1 View Post

      I loved your post......so many newbies, myself included spend alot of time running in circles....there is so much info (and I know essentially they all say the same thing) and so many gurus...I would love to make money online as I am unemployed at the moment...how does one decide what kind of product to make that will sell?
      Any ideas?

      Thanks,
      Donna
      Hi Donna,

      Its really about finding out what people need and give it to them. Just look around you. The opportunities are everywhere and once you see your first opportunity you will be seeing them for the rest of your life.

      For example,you said you are currently unemployed. Now think about how many people there are out there just like you. Not having a job is a very very big problem for people.

      Here are a couple topics you could create products on for people just like you:

      How to write the perfect resume.
      How to use linkedin to find a job.
      How to be great at job interviews.
      A list of industries with great job prospects.

      I think unemployed people would love these products, and I just came up with these off the top of my head. I'm sure if you put some thought into it you could come up with some great product ideas.

      Goodluck
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      • Profile picture of the author Rob Howard
        Originally Posted by SPMassie View Post

        Hi Donna,

        Its really about finding out what people need and give it to them. Just look around you. The opportunities are everywhere and once you see your first opportunity you will be seeing them for the rest of your life.

        For example,you said you are currently unemployed. Now think about how many people there are out there just like you. Not having a job is a very very big problem for people.

        Here are a couple topics you could create products on for people just like you:

        How to write the perfect resume.
        How to use linkedin to find a job.
        How to be great at job interviews.
        A list of industries with great job prospects.

        I think unemployed people would love these products, and I just came up with these off the top of my head. I'm sure if you put some thought into it you could come up with some great product ideas.

        Goodluck
        Yup - and price it at point that people in that situation can afford - say, 10 dollars.

        Also, here is a cool idea with that niche = tell them that they can earn extra money in their paypal account if they refer their their friends who may need the help.

        Explain that you pay a full 100% commission and the money goes directly to their paypal account.

        Explain why you are doing it (helping others get on their feet AND you get good prospects and contacts)

        This works well if you have an upsell for slightly more - or you can sell a related product, because you can make money on the back end, like the original post.

        They then tell their friends, they make a few extra dollars, and it starts to go viral.

        Rob
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    • Profile picture of the author jvjoe
      Great Post, love it...time for us to take action... it's all about taking action here
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    • Profile picture of the author adupree
      This is a great idea. A lot of people teach you that to create a list, you give away a free report. If these people actually paid for one of your products, you know they are really interested.
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      • Profile picture of the author LarryW
        I saw this quite a while ago, and today I know it is even more important for beginners to try.

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    • Profile picture of the author ramiusthedog
      Speaking as a newbie this idea is not really for the newbies. I understand how important research is but this idea just bamboozles me....just my opinion :confused:
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  • Profile picture of the author leadmonster
    Great post man!!
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  • Profile picture of the author MarkJones
    it is funny though.. That post (which was great by the way!) can really be summed up in 3 words.. Now Take Action!

    This is the secret to success in anything. At some point you need to put down the book and DO IT! Stuff up, fall over and get back up again.

    Then repeat over and over and over..

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  • Profile picture of the author Steve Faber
    Look on Amazon's best seller section to get an idea of what types of info products are selling well. Then find one niche on that list that you already have some knowledge in. The niches won't actually be listed, but you can figure it out by looking at the book titles and subject matter. You could just pick any niche, but choosing one you already know well will facilitate the product creation phase.

    Have a good e-cover created for your e-book or video series, because people really do judge a book by it's cover, unless you're God's own copywriter.

    To find authorities, look to the popular bloggers or if you're feeling really good about your product, you could try established authors on Amazon. Also, look on product marketplaces such as clickbank. There you'll find vendors who already have marketing and buyer lists in place, and who are already selling products to your niche. In many cases, if yous is good, they'll be happy to promote it to their list for 100% commission, then you instantly pick up a percentage of their buyer list.
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  • Profile picture of the author Austin357
    Great information on getting this process up and running. You can definitely see the power of building a list with people who actually have used their credit cards. I have been trying different methods to increase the quality of my opt-in's and this is a great way. I'm going to give this a try. Thanks Mr. Smith!
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  • Profile picture of the author Syamsul Alam
    What an awesome thread. Just to add few tricks you can do to improve your success rate.

    For product: It doesn't have to be the product that you create. You can simply look for free PLR video, package it, then sell it for $10 or $20 with 100% instant commission.

    PLR Video teach people something, so even if most PLR are junk, PLR video are not. It still has lots of value and you can sell it easily for $20. Where to get free PLR videos? Ask google.
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  • Profile picture of the author misharuski
    Great information here! This is basically what I have been doing =)
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    • Profile picture of the author redstanford
      Originally Posted by misharuski View Post

      Great information here! This is basically what I have been doing =)
      any success? haha
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  • Profile picture of the author JustFelix
    I kind of do this as well, and this information is really good. Everyone should take action!
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    Just gave me an idea.. tanks
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    • Profile picture of the author redstanford
      would there be a way to allow someone to sell your ebook on their authority blog without having them become an affiliate through an affiliate program like clickbank, digiresults?

      i think a lot of legit bloggers who aren't soley focused on $$ are a little sketched out the flashing gizmos at places like clickbank.
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      • Profile picture of the author Mike Hill
        Originally Posted by redstanford View Post

        a little sketched out the flashing gizmos at places like clickbank.
        Huh? I don't really understand what you're saying by that statement.

        But if legit bloggers as you say aren't solely focused on making money then why would they even worry about your product or wanting to promote it?

        There are enough other bloggers or avenues to go to with your product that you don't have to worry about the non-serious ones out there.
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  • Profile picture of the author Brad789
    Brad here - exceptional way to start up marketing programs for someone with some skills or knowledge base.

    I have often thought this would be a great niche for college students in unique or high subscription class assignments. Imagine taking your course work, your notes and other useful commentary and putting it into an ebook.

    You could be come the next "cliff notes" for a program or series of classes. I took a ton of classes in school and would get old class notes. Never exactly the same but they really gave me a powerful guide through stuff that got mysterious to me.

    Something to consider - if you are a student - you will at least have the experience of attending the lectures and taking the tests. That is a high value commodity for most who want to "squeeze" as much out of a course grade as possible.

    I am certain using those prior notes got me at least a half if not a full grade higher in several classes. Never hurts to think about this.

    Best of luck - keep marketing !

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  • Profile picture of the author budfox
    My whole point is, Digiresults is ALL IM stuff. It's like one giant safe list.

    clearly demonstrates you will NOT succeed in this business.
    What are you making things personal? Trying to start a fight? You have no idea who you are even talking to. I have a feeling my online earnings last year were probably more than 20 times yours (in fact I would bet significantly on that) and it was all in non-IM niches.

    I am just really tired of seeing advice - especially "Newbies this is how you make big money" advice - that is all specifically geared to the IM niche only, and that is all DR is good for (if it is even good for that - even listing a decent IM product at 100% commission there won't get you affiliates, you would need to promote that elsewhere, like here).

    So for a non-IM niche you still need a way to get traffic - in this case affiliate traffic - and getting traffic is what it is all about. That is the main problem that needs to be solved, not what you do with it after you have it.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Hill
      Originally Posted by budfox View Post

      My whole point is, Digiresults is ALL IM stuff. It's like one giant safe list.



      What are you making things personal? Trying to start a fight? You have no idea who you are even talking to. I have a feeling my online earnings last year were probably more than 20 times yours (in fact I would bet significantly on that) and it was all in non-IM niches.

      I am just really tired of seeing advice - especially "Newbies this is how you make big money" advice - that is all specifically geared to the IM niche only, and that is all DR is good for (if it is even good for that - even listing a decent IM product at 100% commission there won't get you affiliates, you would need to promote that elsewhere, like here).

      So for a non-IM niche you still need a way to get traffic - in this case affiliate traffic - and getting traffic is what it is all about. That is the main problem that needs to be solved, not what you do with it after you have it.

      Does it really matter that DigiResults is all IM stuff? NO ... Like I said, you don't sit around and wait for affiliates, you go out and actively pursue them yourself, one at a time. Then it doesn't matter which affiliate network you decide to use.

      Sheesh... why is this so hard to comprehend?

      And as for the money you say you make... Who cares? I don't care what you make. All that matters to me is what I make.

      So you're saying people can't make BIG MONEY doing this? Well not everyone will because some people are lazy or ask too many questions and never move anything forward. So those people will not make it. The OP also did not state that you had to stay in the IM niche. Personally I like the IM niche but I back up everything I say and share with others by being in other niches as well to prove what I say works.

      And if you're sick and tired of seeing advice geared towards the IM niche alone well it doesn't take much out of the box thinking to move the strategies, etc. to a different niche... everyone knows that. So I don't see your point and besides look where you are... Um... An Internet Marketing Forum... Gosh!

      Also, you say you still need a way to get traffic... Are you that closed minded? I'll say it again a little slower this time... Contact other marketers in your niche who are doing better than you and make them a private deal. Do that over and over again. Traffic problem solved! And you're building a list of buyers.
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    This has been really interesting. Thanks for all the great advice.
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  • Profile picture of the author Harold Lindsey
    Nice one Mr. Smith,

    There are a lot of people out there who are not confident about product creation. Well, here's another angle for you that people are making money with right now.

    People hate to do Real Good Niche Research. And They Hate To Write. Just go out there and find out what are the Hot Selling Niches... Use Google Keyword Tool, Use Market Samurai, or Use Micro Niche Finder. It really doesn't matter.

    Now, once you got the data; "Search Volume, Competition", Write or get some one else t write 5 articles in 5 hot niches, or 5 articles in 10 hot niches. You then group them up in a package.

    This is how it sounds; (5 articles in 5 hot niches -thats 25 articles packages) or
    (Fresh - 10 Hot Niche Professionally Written 5 Articles per Niche Package; Thats 50 Well Written Sought After Money Making Content w/ High In Damand & Low Competion Articles), and you have a product. Or what ever combination you come up with.

    Anyone and everyone can do this and their will aways be Buyers because Two things always remain True. 1. People will always need Content. 2. People Hate to do the Real Work to Create that Content, and will always pay others to do it for them.
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    • Profile picture of the author Roseaff
      Thanks for this valuable information.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tracey_Meagher
    Nice to see the formula stripped down to its essential components! Sometimes you forget how easy the simple the overall strategy is ...
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  • Profile picture of the author Scott Skinner
    This is Internet Marketing 101. The illusive "secret" so many search for but never find. The info in SPMassie's post has been sold over and over again, but you got it here free!

    Still more to learn, but this is a solid foundation to build on.
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  • Profile picture of the author Traveler66
    Totally agree.

    After thirty years in marketing and sales and seventeen of them online, I have personally seen this approach work over and over again.

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  • Profile picture of the author bumba1988
    Hi Smith,

    Thanks a lot for this amazing info. Will be honest, I have heard of this before, but, never took the path and created the product myself. Product creation actually scares me because may be I am not that good with technologies (Well, I am a technical guy and often work with clients who needs something developed around a certain technology, but when it comes to creating one and selling it online all by myself, I am too shy), hence, probably, e-books are the only available option for me.

    Now, I wonder whether people will really buy an e-book for a price? I mean you get so much of free information throughout the web, why one would pay a price for that?
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  • Great to see someone like Mr. smith actually giving this info away. It's the simplest explanation and method to get started.

    Now... he's one problem:

    Conversion.

    None of this works if you can't convert traffic into paying customers. And that's probably the hardest part.

    Anyone disagree?
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    • Profile picture of the author phil.wheatley
      Originally Posted by MontelloMarketing View Post

      Great to see someone like Mr. smith actually giving this info away. It's the simplest explanation and method to get started.

      Now... he's one problem:

      Conversion.

      None of this works if you can't convert traffic into paying customers. And that's probably the hardest part.

      Anyone disagree?
      I assume if the product is good and does what it claims, then it should convert as it will come from JVs who are promoting the product to their warmed up list.
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      • Profile picture of the author Chris Sorrell
        Originally Posted by phil.wheatley View Post

        I assume if the product is good and does what it claims, then it should convert as it will come from JVs who are promoting the product to their warmed up list.
        It could be the best product of all time but if the sales page isn't up to scratch then no one will buy it in the first place. I'm sure Vin was making a point regarding the actual sales copy and message behind the product. The best products on clickbank more often than not are the ones that you never hear about because all the work has gone into the product and the creator has forgotten the marketing.
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      • Originally Posted by phil.wheatley View Post

        I assume if the product is good and does what it claims, then it should convert as it will come from JVs who are promoting the product to their warmed up list.
        Those would be hugely false assumptions.

        There are a ton of great products with bad sales copy, or good copy matched to a bad market... and they DO NOT convert.

        Conversion is a separate entity. The most important part of the sales process (it's where you get the money)... and far too many people promote good products thinking they will automatically make money.

        Huge rookie mistake.
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  • Profile picture of the author paolo83
    Mr.Smith you hit the nail on the head!

    I just came up with this strategy as solution to the same traffic/list building problem that you have outlined. I wish i read this post 2 years ago!!!

    Thank you for sharing this with all the newbies out there that are still struggling at IM.

    Newbie, stop what you are doing right now, read the post again and then do it another 3 times so that you'll get it in your head....

    Mr. Smith is onto something very very important here, it is worth a few minutes of you time, it cost you nothing and it will make you big ROI.

    thanx,

    paolo
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  • Profile picture of the author Big Al
    We need to keep Mr Montello talking

    Affiliates will only promote if they think (or have evidence) that the sales page is converting.

    Not just for money but because (in the rough words of Ken McCarthy) every time someone clicks on a link in your email you deepen the relationship with them... provided you send them to something that's relevant and of value.

    That's gotta come down to the copy?

    On a tangent, one of the ideas behind the $7 script was you didn't need a great sales page because the price point was so low that people would buy on impulse and implied your copy didn't have to be so great.

    I'm not sure what people have experienced on this front? I know I get better conversions on affiliates sales through the WSO section and that maybe because the price point is low and impulse buyer... or it might be because the price point is low and the sales copy?

    Probably the later...
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    • Originally Posted by Big Al View Post

      We need to keep Mr Montello talking
      Not a hard thing to do.

      Affiliates will only promote if they think (or have evidence) that the sales page is converting.

      Not just for money but because (in the rough words of Ken McCarthy) every time someone clicks on a link in your email you deepen the relationship with them... provided you send them to something that's relevant and of value.

      That's gotta come down to the copy?
      Not all of it's the copy... but man it's a major factor.

      On a tangent, one of the ideas behind the $7 script was you didn't need a great sales page because the price point was so low that people would buy on impulse and implied your copy didn't have to be so great.

      I'm not sure what people have experienced on this front? I know I get better conversions on affiliates sales through the WSO section and that maybe because the price point is low and impulse buyer... or it might be because the price point is low and the sales copy?

      Probably the later...
      This is true... sort of. The $7 price point is so low you don't need a lot of copy. But... it should still be good copy. And...

      effective short copy can take just as long as long copy.
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  • Profile picture of the author celente
    I been using this technique for years, as one of my tactics.

    Read this post again, infact a few times, and then take action.

    Get others to do your work for you, and make sales that way.

    Its all about leverage and then profiting off that leverage. That is what will help you win this game.

    This technique works if you set it up right, take action and have good copy. Your product is important too, it must be of the highest quality.

    Great post. This single post could help you go from $0 to over say $2000 a month very quickly. But it all to do with how much action you wish to take.

    Cheers

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  • Profile picture of the author bolo1107
    I've seen this, or something like it a few times before. But this one sorta hit me in the face like a splash of cold water.

    I'm awake and I clearly "see where you're going with this".

    Thanks a bunch Mr. Smith.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jamesgregory
    Haha.

    Notice how he mentioned NOTHING about push button softwares, automated "systems," traffic generation strategies, video, or mobile traffic, or really anything that newbies are "buying" into.. Pun intended!

    All about affiliates.. Period.
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  • Profile picture of the author JSanti7
    Great idea! Great way to build a buyer's list. Others would pay to get this kind of info.
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  • Profile picture of the author maintainie
    You're certainly more than welcome and I sincerely appreciate you all taking the time to post these kind words. This really made my day so thank you all!
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  • Profile picture of the author Rick Britton
    awesome stuff

    I have two complete product ranges which I want to build. One will be expensive, requiring tv studio time but will sell for big money, the other will just need a recording studio

    now I know I need a pre-lim product for both lines (they are not related)... bet I end up making a lot more money like this!!
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  • Profile picture of the author ECoatTech
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    Originally Posted by SPMassie View Post

    This will allow you to build a huge targeted list for free. Anyone can do this right now no matter how broke you are.Yes, theoretically you can get more people to optin by giving away something free, but there are 2 problems with that:

    • You are going to have to drive the traffic yourself.
    • You are going to get alot of useless freebie seekers that will never make you any money.

    Mr. Smith
    I can see this happening!

    I actually do have a question. If I am new to affiliate marketing, I should probably stay with just learning the basics before going in on my own product.?!
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    • Profile picture of the author happyday
      Honestly,you don't need any other basics to learn again.
      You don't need have a bogus degree,before creating your own product!get your topic,research for the content,package , put up your sales copy,and then check out for affiliates.
      Just try to make your front-end product superb and rich,since this will help you get affiliates faster,and also sell your credibility to the buyers to buy more from you.You may even outsource the product to a competent ghostwriter.
      Originally Posted by ECoatTech View Post

      I can see this happening!

      I actually do have a question. If I am new to affiliate marketing, I should probably stay with just learning the basics before going in on my own product.?!
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  • Profile picture of the author celente
    I just 5 starred this thread.

    Great info for newbies!! and people out there struggling or who thin this whole IM game is a scam!

    Study and follow along and come back when you have made your first $5,000 online.

    Now! get back to work **cracks Whip Loudly**
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  • Profile picture of the author Christian Chan
    Originally Posted by SPMassie View Post

    Here's an example. Let's say your affiliates are sending you 1,000 sales per month and of those sales you are only able to get 20% of them to buy your back-end product. Let's also say that your back-end product costs $47.

    20% of 1000 would mean that you would make 200 sales of your back-end product, and 200 x $47= $9400

    You would make $9400 on complete autopilot. All you would have to do is handle customer services issues and you could easily outsource that.

    Now let's see what would happen if your affiliates sent you 2000 sales and you got 30% of them to buy your backend product?

    600 x $47= $28200
    Your conversion rate is way too optimistic. 20-30% LOL.

    My god!
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    • Profile picture of the author irsodeskie
      thanks for sharing this great information. such a big help for newbies like me.
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  • Profile picture of the author sdk1970
    Lots of very general ideas, but motivational nonetheless.
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  • Profile picture of the author nattauhidi
    really nice thread, gave me something to think about changing up my own way of going about the game
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  • Profile picture of the author rubenet33
    hello mr.. I need to star in this ... can you help me?
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  • Profile picture of the author Bergryen
    There are many ideas to get money online. Now peoples are accepting the best one. Thanks for the post.
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  • Profile picture of the author Christine2011
    Nice strategy Mr. smith...Thanks for sharing
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  • Profile picture of the author dagaul101
    It's always great to have your own product, and have a legion of folks willing to buy, getting those folks though is the hardest part
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  • Profile picture of the author chaujka
    Originally Posted by SPMassie View Post

    This Is How The Big Boys Market Online

    Do this and I guarantee you will have success:

    • Create a info product of interest to your target market. Make sure it gives a lot of quality information. Make it a great product.
    • Create a sales page and price your product around $10 to $20.
    • Sign up with digiresults and pay your affiliates 100% commissions.
    • Get out and network with people in your niche and on affiliate marketing forums to get people to promote for you.
    • Once people buy your product send them to a squeeze page and get them to optin. You could also put links to your squeeze page in your product.


    This will allow you to build a huge targeted list for free. Anyone can do this right now no matter how broke you are.Yes, theoretically you can get more people to optin by giving away something free, but there are 2 problems with that:

    • You are going to have to drive the traffic yourself.
    • You are going to get alot of useless freebie seekers that will never make you any money.

    The beauty of this strategy is that your affiliates do all the hard work and that everyone you add to your list will be a buyer. Your entire list will have people that are ready and willing to spend money. This is 1000 times better than a list of freebie seekers.


    How To Really Cash In

    Now when you are ready to start making big money create another more expensive product and upsell your customers after they buy your first product. Don't pay any commissions on it. This will make you a lot of money and best of all its completely automated so you don't have to do anything.

    Here's an example. Let's say your affiliates are sending you 1,000 sales per month and of those sales you are only able to get 20% of them to buy your back-end product. Let's also say that your back-end product costs $47.

    20% of 1000 would mean that you would make 200 sales of your back-end product, and 200 x $47= $9400

    You would make $9400 on complete autopilot. All you would have to do is handle customer services issues and you could easily outsource that.

    Now let's see what would happen if your affiliates sent you 2000 sales and you got 30% of them to buy your backend product?

    600 x $47= $28200

    That's $28200 sent to you while you pretty much do nothing. How much could you make if you were to do this same thing across a bunch of other niches?

    Do You See Where I am Going With This?

    It is not difficult to make money online. People just spend too much too time doing the wrong things. Just create a couple of great products, get some affiliates, set up a sales funnel, and you will be making money in no time.

    And its not even difficult to create a product. Just research your subject, take what you learn, and create a product.That's all there is to it.

    If you don't see the massive potential of this strategy, then you need to quit IM. This strategy could easily make you a millionaire.

    Now Take Action!

    Any Questions?



    Goodluck,

    Mr. Smith
    Very well put and in very simplified language. Very informative too. This could have easily sold as a WSO
    Heed this advice and you will earn.
    Kudos Mr. Smith. Keep up.
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  • Profile picture of the author PPCprof
    now everyone is going to make some infoproduct and list it on networks like digiresults.

    thhen the method will be numbed out. becomes in effective.

    and many will just come up with half done, half pass 6 quality ebooks just for the sake of selling or building a list.

    this will spoil the market for those already doing it.

    thats what i think.

    but then again, who knows. many people might not take action. lol

    this is just my opinion.

    doesnt affect me cos im not doing this. hahaha
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    • Profile picture of the author Mary McLean
      That's funny PPC Prof!

      Actually, you probably are correct about people taking action though.
      According to an interview with Tony Robbins about this, the question was asked "why don't people take action, after buying $2,000 and even $5,000 products"?

      He had an answer that said "people compound up or down their belief in their ability after the results they get from an action on a previous belief about something"!

      That sort of says it all...Jim Rohn calls them The 97%'ers!

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    • Profile picture of the author celente
      Originally Posted by PPCprof View Post


      but then again, who knows. many people might not take action. lol

      this is just my opinion.

      doesnt affect me cos im not doing this. hahaha

      Errrr that post just told me alot.

      Join john reese brigade.

      Just take action, no matter what.

      You can even create cr@p, test that cr@p, and even make that cr@p even better so that it is not cr@p, so then you make some good sales.

      Ok, the point is, that you should be taking action.

      The 2 years I did not take action, I did not see any income. Pretty simple really.

      When I did take action, I saw results and then had something to work with.

      My coaching students, the 30% of them that actually listen and take action do make money and a few of them have quit their jobs.

      WHY? well they wanted so bad, they got off their bum and took some action, and then followed through.

      If you do this, you have already won the game, and the battle you have with yourself in your own mind that ... I WILL DO IT ALL TOMORROW mentality. That has never worked for anyone now, has it?
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      • Profile picture of the author rackemup
        Originally Posted by celente View Post

        Errrr that post just told me alot.

        Join john reese brigade.

        Just take action, no matter what.

        You can even create cr@p, test that cr@p, and even make that cr@p even better so that it is not cr@p, so then you make some good sales.

        Ok, the point is, that you should be taking action.

        The 2 years I did not take action, I did not see any income. Pretty simple really.

        When I did take action, I saw results and then had something to work with.

        My coaching students, the 30% of them that actually listen and take action do make money and a few of them have quit their jobs.

        WHY? well they wanted so bad, they got off their bum and took some action, and then followed through.

        If you do this, you have already won the game, and the battle you have with yourself in your own mind that ... I WILL DO IT ALL TOMORROW mentality. That has never worked for anyone now, has it?
        Celente, I can't PM you because I don't have the required # of posts, but I'd like to know about your 1 on 1 coaching. You can PM me or contact me logix2112 at hot mail dot com
        Thank you!
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  • Profile picture of the author Dan Allard
    Thanks for the excellent post SPMassie.

    I've launched products individually, without using an affiliate program. I mostly focus on offering services, and I always say "I'll launch a product down the road".

    Well this post has inspired me to take action on my next set of products, and your strategy seems very straight forward. Thanks again!
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris-
    Wow, thanks so much for this invaulable info! I look forward to putting it into practice.

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    Yes, I have a question.

    How exactly do you implement the up-sell system with Digiresults?

    Personally I'd give the affiliates a percentage of the upsell product, so that they make the same money no matter which product sells, just to be fair to the affiliates, but that's just me

    Also, can you give us an example of sales copy that actually WORKS in practice, for this system?

    thanks in advance

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    • Profile picture of the author Mary McLean
      I was wondering that too.
      I think the last response re "affiliates being rewarded for all purchases their lead produced" is the only fair way to go also.

      They do all the hard yakka to produce the lead/sale so I feel they should be eternally recompensed for all future sales to that customer.

      I heard some software allows this procedure and keeps track of the affiliates "cookie" for life! Gotta find that one...

      Now, that's a program!
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      • Profile picture of the author Chris-
        Originally Posted by Mary McLean View Post

        I was wondering that too.
        I think the last response re "affiliates being rewarded for all purchases their lead produced" is the only fair way to go also.

        They do all the hard yakka to produce the lead/sale so I feel they should be eternally recompensed for all future sales to that customer.

        I heard some software allows this procedure and keeps track of the affiliates "cookie" for life! Gotta find that one...

        Now, that's a program!
        Kindest,
        Looking at DigiResults, it looks like they have upsell options on their own products for sale there, so I guess some kind of upsell system is allowed there. If I don't get any reply on exactly how best to do that, from the OP or anyone else with experience here, I guess I'll just ask the contact at DigiResults.


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        • Profile picture of the author Mary McLean
          Hi Chris,
          I heard that Ryan Diess and Leigh someone have some supersonic software that allows that plus other benefits for affiliates, but I forget where I saw that.

          I guess when I'm ready to utilize that type of advanced technique, the info will pop up all over the place, as it tends to when one actually moves towards action-ing a new thing!
          Not saying for one moment that you are not...that reads a bit "off", but I hope you know what I mean. :-)

          Next year, when I'm more "up with it", I would love to check out those options, that's why I have my radar up now, just gathering bits of info here and there, building up a groundwork of knowledge around those vast subjects of affiliates and software!

          Thanks for that,
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          • Profile picture of the author Chris-
            Originally Posted by Mary McLean View Post

            Hi Chris,
            I heard that Ryan Diess and Leigh someone have some supersonic software that allows that plus other benefits for affiliates, but I forget where I saw that.

            I guess when I'm ready to utilize that type of advanced technique, the info will pop up all over the place, as it tends to when one actually moves towards action-ing a new thing!
            Not saying for one moment that you are not...that reads a bit "off", but I hope you know what I mean. :-)

            Next year, when I'm more "up with it", I would love to check out those options, that's why I have my radar up now, just gathering bits of info here and there, building up a groundwork of knowledge around those vast subjects of affiliates and software!

            Thanks for that,
            Kindest
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  • Profile picture of the author carolf
    I am at the stage of the ebook is written, its called Turn On The Light and its a road map out of negative emotions

    I got a woman on fiverrr editing it and formating it for me

    I have no idea how to do the landing/sales page, might need to oursource that

    this post is brilliant as I really needed to hear that this is crucial to list building

    I am going to offer it free on my webiste and on facebook via opt in

    somedays I wish I had a bigger brain but the one I got is what I got

    so jsut getting on with it.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mary McLean
      That is a great start CarolF.
      What a great title too, as negativity is the easiest of emotions to bathe in.
      It's said our emotions are like the bias on a bowls ball and it's the negative side we naturally lean to and have to work at the positive bit...

      Good on you,
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  • Profile picture of the author Mary McLean
    Gee Celente...
    Did you write that about me?

    Yes, it was John Reese who got me off my tail and into doing it!

    Everything had to be perfect, before I would put it out.
    Consequently, nothing ever got put out!

    Then JR mentioned how he started, I was inspired. He wanted just 40K a year.

    Then Frank K came along with some obscure video and I was so challenged by his idea of really getting into his customers/prospects minds to find out what they really were hunting for, I so wanted to absorb his mojo, by osmosis if I could!
    I did his charts he was using on a whiteboard in an old video and my life changed as I took action.

    I dropped the "Being perfect" thing and went for...
    "If I do it and it's bad, at least I can upgrade the bad to better, as I go!"

    Tell you what...That is the most liberating thing a human can do I think...

    So little a sentence, but oh, so life changing.

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  • Profile picture of the author electroglyder
    Good idea,but hard to get going. Coming up with a marketable product is whats holding me up. I am still puttering along ,looking !
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    • Profile picture of the author Chris-
      Originally Posted by electroglyder View Post

      Good idea,but hard to get going. Coming up with a marketable product is whats holding me up. I am still puttering along ,looking !
      One easy way, grab a lot of the free PLR's (easy to find tens of thousands on Google), find a subject that has at least 100 PLR's about it, and even better if you know a little bit about that subject area yourself already, then skim-read through all the PLR's you can find on the subject, removing any that are not good, then edit-together and re-write all the good ones, plus any additional research on Wikipedia or whatever as needed, and put the subject-areas in a logical order as chapters. Takes a few hours, and you can have a really good unique product. You could outsource all that work if you'd rather spend a few dollars than a few hours.

      If you want to make the product even more valuable, make video of the same info . . . PowerPoint style (short sections of text) with you speaking the words at the same time works fine (no need to sound like a professional narrator, it's actually better if you sound like an ordinary person, and by the time you've re-written your Ebook, you'll be an expert on the subject, so can sound like you know what you're talking about!), then you have video and mp3 (for people to listen to on iPods, in the car etc.) of the same thing, which multiplies the value. Again easy to outsource if you'd rather spend money than time.

      Hope that helps

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    Nice thread. I learn 'something' here..

    Thanks for sharing.
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    Just read the first post and it's the first time I actually got something out of a post for long time.

    Thanks

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  • Profile picture of the author vliddico
    Hi Mr. Smith,

    This is a cool strategy and one that you can see being implemented. I always encourage people to create products with massive content not just another CB product. Content is king and currency, keep it in mind.
    There's only one way to find out, just go it!
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  • Profile picture of the author The Herm
    Holy smokes, what an excellent idea! I'm in the process of creating my first "how to" ebook right now and I'm going to use this idea as my launching pad and see how it works.

    You have given me a new way to look at IM.

    Thank you!
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  • Profile picture of the author glinda2011
    Originally Posted by SPMassie View Post

    This Is How The Big Boys Market Online

    Do this and I guarantee you will have success:

    • Create a info product of interest to your target market. Make sure it gives a lot of quality information. Make it a great product.
    • Create a sales page and price your product around $10 to $20.
    • Sign up with digiresults and pay your affiliates 100% commissions.
    • Get out and network with people in your niche and on affiliate marketing forums to get people to promote for you.
    • Once people buy your product send them to a squeeze page and get them to optin. You could also put links to your squeeze page in your product.


    This will allow you to build a huge targeted list for free. Anyone can do this right now no matter how broke you are.Yes, theoretically you can get more people to optin by giving away something free, but there are 2 problems with that:

    • You are going to have to drive the traffic yourself.
    • You are going to get alot of useless freebie seekers that will never make you any money.

    The beauty of this strategy is that your affiliates do all the hard work and that everyone you add to your list will be a buyer. Your entire list will have people that are ready and willing to spend money. This is 1000 times better than a list of freebie seekers.


    How To Really Cash In

    Now when you are ready to start making big money create another more expensive product and upsell your customers after they buy your first product. Don't pay any commissions on it. This will make you a lot of money and best of all its completely automated so you don't have to do anything.

    Here's an example. Let's say your affiliates are sending you 1,000 sales per month and of those sales you are only able to get 20% of them to buy your back-end product. Let's also say that your back-end product costs $47.

    20% of 1000 would mean that you would make 200 sales of your back-end product, and 200 x $47= $9400

    You would make $9400 on complete autopilot. All you would have to do is handle customer services issues and you could easily outsource that.

    Now let's see what would happen if your affiliates sent you 2000 sales and you got 30% of them to buy your backend product?

    600 x $47= $28200

    That's $28200 sent to you while you pretty much do nothing. How much could you make if you were to do this same thing across a bunch of other niches?

    Do You See Where I am Going With This?

    It is not difficult to make money online. People just spend too much too time doing the wrong things. Just create a couple of great products, get some affiliates, set up a sales funnel, and you will be making money in no time.

    And its not even difficult to create a product. Just research your subject, take what you learn, and create a product.That's all there is to it.

    If you don't see the massive potential of this strategy, then you need to quit IM. This strategy could easily make you a millionaire.

    Now Take Action!

    Any Questions?



    Goodluck,

    Mr. Smith

    Very informative post. This is a sure way of building a quality list.
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  • Profile picture of the author FaisalReza
    Great topic... i always see how to get a huge traffic to my website.
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  • Profile picture of the author arkhamindustries
    Originally Posted by adniquedesign View Post

    nice thread i very like about the topic
    Agreed!
    I really want to get around to trying this soon
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  • Profile picture of the author derekad
    after you launch new product, from where do you get affiliates? how do they find you? or how do you find them?
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  • Originally Posted by SPMassie View Post

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    Create a info product of interest to your target market. Make sure it gives a lot of quality information. Make it a great product.[/B]
    Not only make it great, I have always said... GIVE AWAY THE FARM... for FREE. Literally GIVE them something worth a great deal.

    Some may think this is wrong because you can charge for it. But...

    If you give them something huge for free but just make it seem slightly difficult for them to do...

    Then SELL THEM the secret to making it easy.

    It's a winning formula.
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  • Profile picture of the author juninhop
    Originally Posted by SPMassie View Post

    This Is How The Big Boys Market Online

    Do this and I guarantee you will have success:

    • Create a info product of interest to your target market. Make sure it gives a lot of quality information. Make it a great product.
    • Create a sales page and price your product around $10 to $20.
    • Sign up with digiresults and pay your affiliates 100% commissions.
    • Get out and network with people in your niche and on affiliate marketing forums to get people to promote for you.
    • Once people buy your product send them to a squeeze page and get them to optin. You could also put links to your squeeze page in your product.


    This will allow you to build a huge targeted list for free. Anyone can do this right now no matter how broke you are.Yes, theoretically you can get more people to optin by giving away something free, but there are 2 problems with that:

    • You are going to have to drive the traffic yourself.
    • You are going to get alot of useless freebie seekers that will never make you any money.

    The beauty of this strategy is that your affiliates do all the hard work and that everyone you add to your list will be a buyer. Your entire list will have people that are ready and willing to spend money. This is 1000 times better than a list of freebie seekers.


    How To Really Cash In

    Now when you are ready to start making big money create another more expensive product and upsell your customers after they buy your first product. Don't pay any commissions on it. This will make you a lot of money and best of all its completely automated so you don't have to do anything.

    Here's an example. Let's say your affiliates are sending you 1,000 sales per month and of those sales you are only able to get 20% of them to buy your back-end product. Let's also say that your back-end product costs $47.

    20% of 1000 would mean that you would make 200 sales of your back-end product, and 200 x $47= $9400

    You would make $9400 on complete autopilot. All you would have to do is handle customer services issues and you could easily outsource that.

    Now let's see what would happen if your affiliates sent you 2000 sales and you got 30% of them to buy your backend product?

    600 x $47= $28200

    That's $28200 sent to you while you pretty much do nothing. How much could you make if you were to do this same thing across a bunch of other niches?

    Do You See Where I am Going With This?

    It is not difficult to make money online. People just spend too much too time doing the wrong things. Just create a couple of great products, get some affiliates, set up a sales funnel, and you will be making money in no time.

    And its not even difficult to create a product. Just research your subject, take what you learn, and create a product.That's all there is to it.

    If you don't see the massive potential of this strategy, then you need to quit IM. This strategy could easily make you a millionaire.

    Now Take Action!

    Any Questions?



    Goodluck,

    Mr. Smith




    Although I do completely agree with what you have said, most of it cannot be applied to newbies.
    Most newbies can't even make a website, much less a new product regardless of whether its something that interests them or not.
    If you're just providing information, that's just fine but it seems that you actually want newbies to go out and attempt to do this (ie. "Now Take Action!") which practically is virtually impossible.
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  • Profile picture of the author murtuza
    In today's world of PLR it is more easy to use this strategy.

    Get few high quality PLR products in your niche.

    And create a low ticket and few high ticket products out of them by bunching them, adding your own twist or quality content, converting information to audios or videos or just converting them into a physical home study course.

    It is simple. To take things to the next level you can even convert this content into a full blown $3000 per year coaching program and drag your backend clients into your coaching program.

    Imagine if only 5 out of 1000 signs up for your coaching, that's huge profits out of your sales funnel...
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    Nice effort ! Just one word "Focus" on a plan and you will succeed .
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    Thanks a lot for the valuable info. This is a perfect plan for anyone to follow and start cashing in right way, great job and keep up the good work.
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  • This is good in theory... but in reality a newbie will have a VERY hard time signing up worthy affiliates for a product developed by someone without a reputation in the niche (he's a newbie after all) for a product without any upsells (since upsells are exclusively monetized by the product owner). That's not going to tickle any serious affiliate's attention, trust me.

    Regardless of whether you offer 50%, 75% or even a 100% is irrelevant. The real issue is that any newbie will find hard to get proper affiliates to push traffic his way. And no, a 100% commission will not change that!
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    • Profile picture of the author Sid Hale
      There is some truth in what you say, but...

      Originally Posted by Anonymous Affiliate View Post

      This is good in theory... but in reality a newbie will have a VERY hard time signing up worthy affiliates for a product developed by someone without a reputation in the niche (he's a newbie after all) for a product without any upsells (since upsells are exclusively monetized by the product owner). That's not going to tickle any serious affiliate's attention, trust me.

      Regardless of whether you offer 50%, 75% or even a 100% is irrelevant. The real issue is that any newbie will find hard to get proper affiliates to push traffic his way. And no, a 100% commission will not change that!
      It does work.

      First, a 100% commission rate on a low-ticket item may not draw in the really heavy hitters, but if you give 100% commission on a $27 - $57 item on the front end, and publicize the affiliate program well - you'd be pleasantly surprised.

      There is a whole class of affiliates that are somewhere between "newb" and "superaffiliate" that will jump all over the offer.

      You just have to get the word out.

      Second, there is no "rule" that says that "upsells are exclusively monetized by the product owner". Give your affiliates 50% on your upsell too, and watch them flock to your door.

      Oh... you're not JUST building a buyer's list, either. You're building an affiliate sales force that will be there to help get your next product out the door, as well.
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      • Profile picture of the author arkhamindustries
        Originally Posted by Sid Hale View Post

        There is some truth in what you say, but...



        It does work.

        First, a 100% commission rate on a low-ticket item may not draw in the really heavy hitters, but if you give 100% commission on a $27 - $57 item on the front end, and publicize the affiliate program well - you'd be pleasantly surprised.

        There is a whole class of affiliates that are somewhere between "newb" and "superaffiliate" that will jump all over the offer.

        You just have to get the word out.

        Second, there is no "rule" that says that "upsells are exclusively monetized by the product owner". Give your affiliates 50% on your upsell too, and watch them flock to your door.

        Oh... you're not JUST building a buyer's list, either. You're building an affiliate sales force that will be there to help get your next product out the door, as well.
        How might you suggest getting the word out to potential affiliates? Pardon my ignorance but is there a special place on this website to do just that?
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        • Profile picture of the author Sid Hale
          Hi,

          Originally Posted by arkhamindustries View Post

          How might you suggest getting the word out to potential affiliates? Pardon my ignorance but is there a special place on this website to do just that?
          Yes, there are multiple resources right here on the WF and good options elsewhere, too.

          First, look at the options here on the Warrior forum at:
          Warrior Forum Classified Ads or
          Affiliate Program Database

          I think you should choose one or the other of those to publicize your affiliate program, regardless of what affiliate management system you use.

          In addition, you could use WarriorPlus to let affiliates find you, if you think you're ready to run a WSO (they have an affiliate network confined to promoting just WSO's).

          If you also want to make your offer outside the Warrior Forum, there are also large affiliate networks at iDavi - THE Instant Commission Marketplace and at RAP Bank*Instant Commissions Vault, and by listing at one or both of these, you can easily get affiliates to market your product to their lists, on their blogs, and even on a Warrior Special Offer, if you choose to run an offer there.

          Notice the bolded statements, above. As with any advertising, more is better.

          You can also do press releases, ezine articles (yes you can publish an article about your affiliate program, just as easily as you can publish about a product), post on your own blog, and/or mail your list if you have one.

          Whatever you do, don't stop at just one promotion.

          Hope this helps,
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    • Profile picture of the author Manoj
      Originally Posted by Anonymous Affiliate View Post

      This is good in theory... but in reality a newbie will have a VERY hard time signing up worthy affiliates for a product developed by someone without a reputation in the niche
      I have to agree partly with what this OP said but not every product requires a Guru banner. I have sold PHP tutorials and Wordpress tutorials in the past. 'Make X amount of money in X days' is not the only type of product that will sell.
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    Wow. It's awesome in its simplicity. Thanks for spelling it out so clearly.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jonathan Price
    This is a great post and a good read. Thanks for reminding us what works
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  • Profile picture of the author creativeways
    Very interesting thread I really enjoyed reading this thread. Touched on some good idea's
    Thank you Mr smith for your thoughts.
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  • Profile picture of the author Simon74
    Great post and a winning formula, done many time myself and always works really well
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    Theory. Everyone is a guru nowadays it's funny
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  • Profile picture of the author Mary McLean
    It's been interesting watching this discussion unfold!

    There seems to be a dichotomy in terminology here...

    Newbie. What does it really mean?

    New, as "Oh, I think I'll jump on this internet thing and earn some money"
    or
    New, as "Dang, that didn't work...now let me try something else! Been doing this stuff for too long now, something has to work one day. Maybe this is it!?"

    There's too much background layering in of information needed for a new onliner/computer user to grab hold of, that seasoned veterans take for granted.

    5,000 hours of skills learning to replace an income, 10,000 hours to make 7 figures!

    Most people beginning online have no idea of marketing, sales, promotion, running a business, let alone managing themselves as far as being an entrepreneur goes, so they are way behind the 8 ball.

    They have to upload and install heaps of new info that's covered in a lot of hype and clever marketing copy, it's no wonder that it takes so them long to finally discover an AHA moment when all their accumulated knowledge falls into place!

    The pull of the online world is very addictive indeed...Gotta love it tho! :-)

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  • Profile picture of the author jambaman2
    Originally Posted by juninhop View Post

    Although I do completely agree with what you have said, most of it cannot be applied to newbies.
    Most newbies can't even make a website, much less a new product regardless of whether its something that interests them or not.
    If you're just providing information, that's just fine but it seems that you actually want newbies to go out and attempt to do this (ie. "Now Take Action!") which practically is virtually impossible.
    OBVIOUSLY!!

    As I looked through these posts, I can now better understand why so many experienced marketers can't seem to put out a decent product that newbies can understand and use.

    So many of these posters don't seem to understand how rank ignorant (in the field of IM) newbies can be.
    You are asking people who may not yet even know how to register for an online account, to make their own products and market them!

    One consistent problem with just about every product I have bought is the lack of clear comprehensive and detailed instructions.
    It seems the product makers don't have a clue as to how to explain something to someone that knows NOTHING about how to implement their plan.

    It's one thing to make a product, but it takes a completely different skill to be able to TEACH TO OTHERS (especially the new and completely uninformed user) how to use that product.
    Technical skills and TEACHING skills are two completely different skills entirely.

    I am sorry to have to say so, but I can see that some of you experienced marketers posting here just can NOT relate to what it's like to be a newbie.

    Sure, you were all newbies once but you all seem to be making the mistake of thinking a person completely new to IM can just "take action" in an area of expertise with which they are completely unfamiliar.

    Would you teach someone to fly a plane this way?

    I also can now better understand why so many eproducts are simply crap!

    If even newbies are being advised to make their own products, that only explains even further why there are so many worthless, crap rated eproducts out there today...
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    • Profile picture of the author Justin Jordan
      Originally Posted by jambaman2 View Post

      It seems the product makers don't have a clue as to how to explain something to someone that knows NOTHING about how to implement their plan.
      This kind of presumes that it is their job to do so, which I'm not sure is fair. If, for instance, you wanted to learn how to get improved gas mileage in your car by modifying your driving, I don't think you should expect that the same guide will teach you how to drive.

      And honestly with some of this stuff, if you can't figure it out on your own, you probably won't be able to run your own business. If I were to right an article marketing guide, some of the people who buy it aren't going to know how to sign up for Ezinearticles, or how to start their websites, or how to use Word.

      That's an awful lot to expect out of a simple product, and it's all stuff that you can figure how to do just by reading the instructions or Googling. What newbies need to realize is that not all products are the 101 level.
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      • Profile picture of the author jambaman2
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        Originally Posted by jambaman2
        It seems the product makers don't have a clue as to how to explain something to someone that knows NOTHING about how to implement their plan.

        Originally Posted by Justin Jordan View Post

        This kind of presumes that it is their job to do so, which I'm not sure is fair. If, for instance, you wanted to learn how to get improved gas mileage in your car by modifying your driving, I don't think you should expect that the same guide will teach you how to drive.
        It most certainly IS "their job to do so".

        However, your analogy here is off base:
        Who would need to get improved gas mileage if they didn't already know how to drive in the first place???

        In this case it most certainly is your "job" to completely explain how to modify your driving.

        You are free to neglect this of course, but don't complain when people say your product is inferior.

        A decent instruction manual, when obviously needed, is absolutely necessary for ANY product.

        NO EXCUSES!

        Originally Posted by Justin Jordan View Post

        And honestly with some of this stuff, if you can't figure it out on your own, you probably won't be able to run your own business. If I were to right an article marketing guide, some of the people who buy it aren't going to know how to sign up for Ezinearticles, or how to start their websites, or how to use Word.
        If you are marketing to a complete newbie, YES you need to include instructions on how to signup for Ezinearticles, or WHATEVER ELSE may be necessary to sign up for!!!

        A well produced product's instruction manual will leave nothing out - in this case, you might want to include a section on the importance of PROOF READING (hint, hint!!)...

        Originally Posted by Justin Jordan View Post

        What newbies need to realize is that not all products are the 101 level.
        What MARKETERS need to realize is that they have to gear their product for the people they intend to market to.
        Don't use the typical lines about your product being "newbie friendly" and then fail to explain it adequately enough to deserve that description.

        What marketers aslo need to realize is, if you want to sell your product, you will have to simply produce the very best product you can and not complain about people who voice real concerns.

        There is a refund option after all.

        And PLENTY OF COMPETITION from excellent producers who will spare no effort at creating the best possible product - to INCLUDE complete and comprehensible instructions!!

        NO EXCUSES!
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        • Profile picture of the author moneymicg
          Originally Posted by jambaman2 View Post

          Quote:
          Originally Posted by jambaman2
          It seems the product makers don't have a clue as to how to explain something to someone that knows NOTHING about how to implement their plan.



          It most certainly IS "their job to do so".

          However, your analogy here is off base:
          Who would need to get improved gas mileage if they didn't already know how to drive in the first place???

          In this case it most certainly is your "job" to completely explain how to modify your driving.

          You are free to neglect this of course, but don't complain when people say your product is inferior.

          A decent instruction manual, when obviously needed, is absolutely necessary for ANY product.

          NO EXCUSES!



          If you are marketing to a complete newbie, YES you need to include instructions on how to signup for Ezinearticles, or WHATEVER ELSE may be necessary to sign up for!!!

          A well produced product's instruction manual will leave nothing out - in this case, you might want to include a section on the importance of PROOF READING (hint, hint!!)...



          What MARKETERS need to realize is that they have to gear their product for the people they intend to market to.
          Don't use the typical lines about your product being "newbie friendly" and then fail to explain it adequately enough to deserve that description.

          What marketers aslo need to realize is, if you want to sell your product, you will have to simply produce the very best product you can and not complain about people who voice real concerns.

          There is a refund option after all.

          And PLENTY OF COMPETITION from excellent producers who will spare no effort at creating the best possible product - to INCLUDE complete and comprehensible instructions!!

          NO EXCUSES!
          Well put!! I'm so done with "Marketers" making excuses because they're simply not original. There also lies the problem with why you see weak instruction manuals and how-to guides with the majority of IM products.

          You can't thoroughly explain how-to do something which you have not yet mastered yourself. So many marketers are simply crowd following. When the "guru" controlling the list they're on says "send this to your List... and say this and then say that...yada, yada, yada..." that's all they do. And that's ok to a certain extent. I mean, there are some good products out there where the creator or owner has done a very good job of providing adequate marketing creatives. Sadly for our industry though, this isn't the typical scenario.
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          • Profile picture of the author Daniel Evans
            Cracking discussion from a really helpful original post!

            I'm sure many people will take some jewels from it.
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          • Profile picture of the author Mary McLean
            Originally Posted by moneymicg View Post

            Well put!! I'm so done with "Marketers" making excuses because they're simply not original. There also lies the problem with why you see weak instruction manuals and how-to guides with the majority of IM products.

            You can't thoroughly explain how-to do something which you have not yet mastered yourself. So many marketers are simply crowd following. When the "guru" controlling the list they're on says "send this to your List... and say this and then say that...yada, yada, yada..." that's all they do. And that's ok to a certain extent. I mean, there are some good products out there where the creator or owner has done a very good job of providing adequate marketing creatives. Sadly for our industry though, this isn't the typical scenario.
            Boy, this just makes me feel so much better!

            I was belittling myself to-day re the fact I just put up a video for beginners on how to navigate through GoDaddy and come out with wallet intact, on their first obstacle course trip into that world of up-sells! I thought, how dumb of me to think someone would need that, but I felt it would have helped me at first, it may help someone else!

            How refreshing to be buoyed on by the past few longer posts about the newbie v/s guru mindset and how presumptuous some of the sales copy is.

            A great amount of copy is geared to make you feel like a failure if you don't buy their product, even though the newbie has no idea of where in their future business, this piece of info fits!

            Anyway, thanks guy/gals for encouraging me that there are real beginners out there who do want good value basic starter info...even how to how to put a sig file in the Warrior Forum!

            I know someone said, it's all out there for free on You Tube, but who on earth knows what they need to know when they don't know what it is they need to know in the first place!:confused:
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  • Profile picture of the author jdonlan
    Hi, All -

    I've been a member for a while and have found some great info., but this is my first post. I read the OP and had to finally pull the trigger and ask for help.

    I have two areas that I'd like to (actually started) create products for. Both are niche and things I'm not only knowledgeable in, but also very passionate about. I have total confidence that both can be very useful and profitable, if done the right way. Herein lies my problem - getting things started the right way. I've been hesitant to start plugging out of concern (fear, really) of falling into newbie traps, wasting a lot of time, money and killing the potential. Not to mention the fact that I really do not want to start off with a "bad name" because if the first impression is ****, it's going to be an uphill struggle to change that.

    I do not have a website or blog yet, just two e-books (finalizing format and such). How crucial is it that I get one started in order to market my e-books through affiliates? And, since this would be my first product offer, how would I have any credibility, attract the right sellers and get exposure?

    Please keep in mind - I am totally new to IM, not overly tech-savvy, but I am totally willing to do the work, put in the time and learn.

    Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

    Thanks - Jen
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  • Profile picture of the author BabyMama
    This is a very solid business plan. Although it does take some work to set up the product and back end offer it is a long term business plan and will remain successful.

    Also the more of these you do the more your list will build etc. So for example you make one of these per month your income will increase 12x by the end of the year!
    Cha Ching!
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    • Profile picture of the author jbrite2
      Originally Posted by BabyMama View Post

      This is a very solid business plan. Although it does take some work to set up the product and back end offer it is a long term business plan and will remain successful.

      Also the more of these you do the more your list will build etc. So for example you make one of these per month your income will increase 12x by the end of the year!
      Cha Ching!
      Can I see the site? what is the traffic rate on it presently?
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  • To create a product that one is experienced in is a great way to start because you can more than likely deliver something valuable in that niche which can be very beneficial to others in the same niche. For beginners I'm sure it is easier to create a product relating to something you're already familiar with.
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  • Profile picture of the author ups1984
    So I see that everyone is leaning towards affiliates instead of adsense and other advertising models...
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  • Profile picture of the author Web Tempest
    Alternatively you could put the product on my new marketplace (wink wink) - Blueprint Mint - The Internet Marketing Marketplace
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    • Profile picture of the author Sid Hale
      Hi,

      Originally Posted by arkhamindustries View Post

      How might you suggest getting the word out to potential affiliates? Pardon my ignorance but is there a special place on this website to do just that?
      See... there's another!

      Originally Posted by Web Tempest View Post

      Alternatively you could put the product on my new marketplace (wink wink) - Blueprint Mint - The Internet Marketing Marketplace
      It's NOT rocket science. There are plenty of places on the web to 1) advertise, and 2) recruit affiliates. Often, it's just a matter of getting the opportunity posted in the right places (where your target respondent hangs out), and give them a way to FIND YOU.
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  • Profile picture of the author Eduard Stinga
    Sweet and to the point, exactly what I'm doing right now! WORKS!
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    thanks for the pointers buddy
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  • Profile picture of the author svensky
    That's very generous of you to share such great advice! Like many others, I feel a bit dumb for not thinking about that approach, but I'm still learning a lot as a newbie!
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  • Profile picture of the author PsychoProfits
    It's a nice tactic but is dependent on, "Once people buy your product send them to a squeeze page and get them to optin". How would you propose doing this in the most efficient way? Redirects? Email?
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    • Profile picture of the author Sid Hale
      Originally Posted by rglewis View Post

      It's a nice tactic but is dependent on, "Once people buy your product send them to a squeeze page and get them to optin". How would you propose doing this in the most efficient way? Redirects? Email?
      Well, it depends on your sales management system - but some provide an automatic optin (no form filling required).

      Once a customer buys from you, you are well within your rights (legally and ethically) to follow up with them via email. If your sales system collects their email address during the payment processing, that info can be used to put the customer onto an autoresponder list, automatically.

      Of course, if you abuse that "buyer's only" list, they'll opt out just like any other list, but if you begin by thanking them for their purchase, and sending them a link to their download page, order tracking page, etc. they will see that as a valuable service, and you will be able to send them future offers with no problems.

      Just don't abuse the relationship, and you will have created a very powerful part of your sales funnel.
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      • Profile picture of the author PsychoProfits
        Thanks Sid, is that what the software listed below does?
        DAP, Rapid Action Profits, WSO Pro, Nanacast, DLGuard, Simpleoneclick etc?
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        • Profile picture of the author Sid Hale
          Hi Richard,

          Originally Posted by rglewis View Post

          Thanks Sid, is that what the software listed below does?
          DAP, Rapid Action Profits, WSO Pro, Nanacast, DLGuard, Simpleoneclick etc?
          I can't speak for the others (except to say that yes, at least some of them do).

          That is definitely an option in Rapid Action Profits (RAP). RAP also provides for a manual optin by the customer, if that's what you prefer, but the auto optin feature is provided for, and is what most of my customers use.
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  • Profile picture of the author strena
    Thanks allot for all the guide-lines and the awesome tutorial you just wrote you made my day.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rob Howard
    Richard,

    WSO Pro, RAP, DAP, DLGuard and Nanacast all provide auto optin. Almost any checkout software worth anything does nowadays.

    BTW - All of them are great products. RAP, and WSO Pro are exceptional for this method, due to the way they deal with affiliates.

    Rob
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  • Profile picture of the author Daniel22
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    as a newbie i dunno how to build a sales page or queeze page or any of the above, so if ur a newbie like me this topic is not really helpful..
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    • Profile picture of the author Rob Howard
      Originally Posted by Daniel22 View Post

      as a newbie i dunno how to build a sales page or queeze page or any of the above, so if ur a newbie like me this topic is not really helpful..
      Well, it's really simple.

      There is a search button in between "new posts" and "quick links". Hit that and type in "how to build a sales page". Hit search.

      Same thing for squeeze pages.

      Trust me, if you want to make it in business, you got to start working and thinking for yourself. If you don't know something, you research it.

      It's not difficult...

      Rob
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  • Profile picture of the author Hansie koch
    A great point by Mr Smith, build a 100% buyers list and you have an asset that will work for you! to many people spend time on freebie seekers whilst you can build a solid buyers list, up-sell to them and then send some high quality offers and make some co missions for the rest of the time. every time you send a mail you can make some good money-truly automated at this point.
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  • Profile picture of the author mountainmover53
    Whoah. I just read this and I'm amazed by the nuggets you've presented - and they're golden. Well done and thanks for this info.
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  • Profile picture of the author joeyguru
    It's a huge process that seems a little to much for a newbie I think maybe. .

    I would suggest for newbies to start out affiliate marketing other peoples products.
    1. Find something to affiliate market that your target buyers are desperately looking for an answer to. (raises conversions dramatically) Relationship, Health, Finance are huge niches that have tons of micro niches in them. Think as a desperate Googler
    2. Using Google keyword tool, pick a "buying" keyword to build a blog around.
    (there are some really good WSO's for SEO that will show you how to write the blog)
    gold nuggets:
    1. put your main keyword in the Domain name first.
    2. Unique content on your site, period
    3. Wait for your site to be listed by Google before backlinking to it. Sandbagging sucks!
    4. Link wheels are very powerful. I outsource article writing and the link wheels and dominate search engines this way. Google loves em

    Just throwing it out there fellas.
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    • Profile picture of the author rtrp
      Man this is a great thread just what I was looking for. It filled in the blanks.

      I've got a whole slew of subjects for a niche that I know well and I have the content. Of course I must rewrite it all. I can easily see the content that I have for one of these subjects broken down into the sales page, delivered product and upsell, just have to break it all apart into separate pieces.

      I even have a degree in this niche and it is very profitable.

      It's keyword research time my friends. Time to start building my authority site.
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      • Profile picture of the author Daniel Evans
        Originally Posted by rtrp View Post

        Man this is a great thread just what I was looking for. It filled in the blanks.
        Now, fill the banks!
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  • Profile picture of the author eugenedm
    Wow! You make it sound so simple but creating an info product for a target market requires a lot of knowledge. I don't really think a true "newbie" can handle that right away.
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  • Profile picture of the author marioluislopes
    Really nice post, excellent concept, thanks man
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  • Profile picture of the author cwill184
    Mr Smith, I like your post. Digiresults looks like it is probably worth a punt. Anyone tried this strategy yet?
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  • Profile picture of the author kiwi_abroad
    I really like your point about getting the email address of customers not just prospects. That way you know that these people are willing to pay money.

    You might be surprised at how easy it is to come up with a product, everyone has unique value to offer most people just don't realize it

    However if people are having trouble coming up with a product, what I suggest is jumping on Clickbank and finding someone elses product to sell. You can then ask that vendor if they have a free bonus you could give away once the customers have made the purchase. If the vendor isn't willing to give you something try another vendor, if you have a magnetizable niche there will be plenty out there. Then you could simply ask your customer to email their receipt to you to claim the bonus after they have made the purchase. Bam! You have their email address and you did it using someone elses product.

    Hopefully that helps those who feel stuck with creating their own product.

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  • Profile picture of the author ankur sharma
    fantastic post. I completely agree with what is written here. Though this is only small part of making money online niche. There are ton of other ways to do it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Cyberdetective
    Hi

    Yes the OP has detailed a highly successful marketing technique I have used successfully over a number of years.

    Were I a newbie in the Money Making IM Niche I would look for one of the latest trends in marketing like list building, traffic generation etc. Purchase a number of PLR digital products related to the topic. Most PLR products come complete with all source files (original Word documents, editable PSD graphic files etc) but it’s always worth checking that they are actually included. Read them and research the latest concepts on forums and anywhere you can find quality information online, just search Google.

    Are your writing skills less-than-perfect? Don’t worry! There are several websites, listed below, that you can use to outsource to freelancers who write for a living. These sites allow you to find freelancers who can work within your budget and timeline, so you can minimize the monetary investment if you are on a tight budget. When using sites like these, be clear about your task, budget, and desired turn around time.

    • GetaFreelancer.com
    • ScriptLance.com
    • oDesk.com
    • vWorker.com


    Pick what you consider to be the best PLR product you obtained, rewrite it including all the best points and strategies from the other products. Note there is a weeks work required here there are no overnight riches. Come up with a new title for your publication and get a new ecover. If you think it to much for you go to elance, supply all the products to the writer and give your instructions this can be done at reasonable cost. Give a lot of value at low cost. The current HOT price point is $9.97 or under $10. If you want a complete package talk to Aaron Danker at platinumresellrights.com he will sort something out for you.

    Launch the product through JVZoo

    JVZoo is an excellent selling platform for your products. You’ll get paid a commission for any sale you make, and you’ll get access to a variety of tools, without spending a single dime out of pocket.

    One of the best things about JVZoo is that people who don’t want to sell products of their own can sign up an affiliate to promote any product listed there.

    Setting up an affiliate program can greatly increase your income, because you have a built in sales team, but you don’t pay them a dime until they make a sale. However, this is something many product creators shy away from, simply because running and maintaining an afiliate program can be costly, depending on how you do it. By using JVZoo, you don’t have to pay for affiliate program setup, and everything is handled for you. Every product you sell through JVZoo will get its own affiliate page where you can provide marketing materials to affiliates to help them succeed.

    Not only will you get an easy-to-manage affiliate program, but your affiliates will get instant comissions, and will be able to track them with instant W9s. Your customers will get instant delivery to keep the affilates working on sales, not customer service. Since the platform integrates with Aweber and Get Response, you’ll increase your mailing list every time someone buys your product.

    Also use Digiresults and Simpleoneclick, give 100% commissions and use an optin to deliver the product. You will build a substantial buyers list to put into your sales funnel and follow up autoresponder messages creating an automated income stream and a valuable asset.

    Very simple effective process which just takes a lot of hard work to begin with but reaps substantial rewards.

    Only 5% of those that start an online business ever make any money! 99% of the 5% barely break even! Most move on to the next shiney object when no money is made in the first month or less. You need to focus on one thing at a time and keep working on it until it becomes profitable, there are no overnight riches or push button methods it’s a myth perpetrated by so called“Gurus” to take your money. Hard work, focus and dedication are required.

    If you are serious about your online business and wish to learn more FREE Of Charge
    Leave a message I will contact you via PM. I have an interest in helping those who are having difficulty making money. There is no catch or BS. If you follow proven principles you are GUARANTEED success.

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  • Profile picture of the author blillard
    To all those who discount this method and feels its not for newbies please stop placing that block in your head. It does take work and yes you will have to create an awesome product, but that is totally doable at any level. Most feel since this a marketing forum where others come to learn how to make money, that the pruduct must be about mking money... it doesn't. There are many other ways to break in the industry, you can create a product to help them, make life easier for them. PLR products in different niches, resources, tools, case studies, interviews etc. None of these have to show someone how to make money. When I first launched it was a blast and I learned...not to mention it was total flop but it was expected as I was learning. I followed a method just like this one here and feel even though income wise it not a success, I gained soo much more. I can tell people bout that experience, my networks have grown, me as well. Do some research find what people want and give it to them. You will have to get out there, get your product done, CONTACT these affiliates, test your funnels get results and get BETTER. If you give it your all people can't help but notice but it starts with YOU. Get the doubt out your head today and have an I can attitude that is where it starts. Are you afraid of failure or success?
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