Should There Be A Rating System On WSOs?

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Hi All.

I have bought 3 WSOs in my whole time online and sadly only 1 was actually worth the 7 or 9 dollars I paid lol.

Do you think it would help if there was some kind of rating system or do you think this would be manipulated in ways that testimonials can be.

Perhaps if we has a thumbs up or thumbs down type system it may help weed out whats not worth your money.

Obviously this would only be open to people that have actually bought the WSO.

What do you guys and girls think is there more rubbish out there than ever before or do you find the over all quality of WSO's are good and fair deal???

Let me know thanks.

Colin.
#main internet marketing discussion forum #rating #system #wsos
  • Yeah, I think it would be a great thing that it would be possible to give some kind of ranking to a WSO

    But you can check the quality if you read the reviews
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    • Yea I agree reviews are definately helpfull, but ive seen some good reviews bought the product and felt like smashing my laptop up it was that bad

      I know there will never be a perfect system and the top guys will sell what ever they put out, but maybe there is a way to improve the WSO forum?
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  • Colin,

    Did you leave feedback in all three WSO threads?

    There already is a rating system. But it only works when
    people are prepared to post accurate reviews. Buyers of
    a WSO are entitled to leave feedback... both positive and
    negative.

    Of course your comments must be honest and focus on
    the quality of the product or service. Perhaps if more
    people were prepared to leave honest feedback the
    quality of products on offer would improve?

    John
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    • I think it would be a good feature indeed, but of course you would have the right to vote only if you actually bought the product.

      Yea I can see what you mean Paul Myers since the payment is handled by third party programs there is no real way to connect the buy info to the thread itself..maybe some sort of plugin for WSOplus ?

      Or no, I know the solution.. way to make WSOPaymentplus warriorforum payment processing method (go allen you can make it ! , best alternative to paypal for online payments for IM'ers ) ehe .. just kidding anyway
    • I agree this is the best way to determine if the WSO is a purchase you'll be happy with after buying. Reading the comments and feedback before buying can mean the difference between getting a WSO that suits you or buying something you wish you hadn't. I've also found that for those WSOs that don't tell much about the actual product, if you wait and read the comments it will give you a better idea of what is actually offered and the quality of the product.
  • Well thanks for all your input I guess, it all makes sense and can be debated all day I guess there is no right or wrong way to go about the WSO forum.

    Plus if its doing well as it is why change anything.
  • I agree with Paul, in an ideal world a rating system would be perfect, but it is so open to abuse, it just wouldn't be worth it.
  • My advice is to stop expecting masterpieces for "7 or 9 dollars".

    Save your money and buy something good
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  • I think rating systems would be a waste of time. They'd just get the same abuse as the normal system (i.e getting other accounts/friends to rate it to give false appearance).

    As soon as you put in any system that stands to give someone an advantage - others will try to abuse it to have that advantage for themselves.
  • Itachi,A whole other set of problems. First, that would mean requiring people to use the Warrior Pro/Plus system to sell and deliver their products or else have no reviews. Second, it would encourage affiliates to game the system by giving high reviews to the stuff they were going to promote.

    I'd love it, if there were a way to do it that weren't easily abused. I haven't heard a suggestion in all the time we've had WSOs that wasn't wide open to gaming, though.


    Paul
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    • I used to say use common sense and due diligence - but that isn't always enough today. There are many businesses now focusing on "helping" people run WSOs. These are not part of the WF - but many people here don't know that. I'm not against these smart businesses - but I am against not informing members that a service or business was used for the WSO.

      I can research a WSO but I don't know if the product is being promoted to multiple lists by affiliates. I have no way to tell if a separate service was hired to create the WSO. I know what the "of the day" means but it's clear many new members don't know it's not an official recommendation.

      Ratings will not work. However, I think disclaimers are needed. Trust in WSOs depends on transparency....and the waters are getting murky.

      kay

      Edit: Just saw this posted today in a WSO thread by someone giving a positive comment....

    • While this is far from perfect, it's an idea. How about assembling an independent panel of respected Warriors to review upcoming WSO's. Allen could charge say $70 for the service and pay $50 for each review a panel member performs.

      In return, the WSO would be awarded a certified graphic they could place at the bottom of their WSO. (Diamond, Gold, Silver, Bronze, Sheet Metal). WSOAwards or something infinitely more catchy.

      I know I always feel safer when I visit a website that has won awards or is certified as trustworthy, deservedly so or not. This added system would serve to eliminate WSO sellers who don't value their product or service enough to invest in it.

      It would give WSO buyers another level of confidence in making their final purchase decision. It could boost sales on many WSO's, give 10-12 Warriors an additional income for their reviews, and add a few more dollars to Allen's bottom line.

      Anyways, just some ideas there ...

      Jeff
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  • It doesnt have to be very good to be worth $7...

    If it was very very good it will be priced at $700

    A $7 report is designed to get you into the system, a lead generator with just enough info to make you want to buy more. If your expecting more, then your 2 cans short of a 6 pack
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    • Dammit - so I shouldn't be selling anything at $7 unless it's crap? You should've told me this before.
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    • Wow thats a bad comment, so basically what your saying is dont buy from the WSO forum???

      I was never expecting a master peice but to have something so overhyped and then give me an ebook on how to write your title tags is a joke, I prefer WSO that actually tell you what your getting.

      But its a fair point in many respects.

      Thanks.
  • yes, rating can be great idea. I have purchased many WSO's some of them worthless.
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    • Just wanted to make sure everyone reads this One.

      Ratings are Objective! Use the system that is In place thats why the products are in a FORUM and not a website. You can leave your HONEST feedback and it will be seen and read by Others!

      if its GOOD recommend it, if it didn't hit the mark, Explain why you feel that way. perhaps the product creator would like some constructive feedback.

      FORUM = YOUR CHANCE TO OFFER OPINIONS = Better Buying decisions for everyone, better rewards for GOOD products and bad products being weeded out faster.

      BUT remember it is YOUR OPINION and just because you didn't get anything out of it doesn't mean I won't.

      My 2 Cents

      Oda
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  • There is already a rating system in place, for all threads, including WSO's. Haven't you seen some threads with gold stars to the right of the title? That is the rating system, but not too many people use it. I don't even know how to rate a thread as I have never tried. But I do see many that have a block of stars in the title box, and so I know those have good content in them.
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    • Tim,
      The "Rate Thread" feature is disabled in the WSO forum and probably on others - also there's no option to sort threads by rating. At least I can't see it.

      Carlos
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  • I personally think this would be a great idea.
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    • How much does a $7 WSO need to have in it to be worth the price?

      How many of us spend more than that without a thought in a single visit to Starbucks or MacDonald's for something that's gone in a few minutes, yet agonize and demand endless reassurances and complicated ratings systems for a WSO at the same price?

      You don't expect a Frappuccino or a Big Mac to change your life or make you rich...
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  • Hi guys!

    You all made some great points above.

    @Gordon Gekko, you're so right, brother! Perceived quality is the eye of the bepurchaser. You can give an action-oriented feller a 10 page PDF with simple instructions and he'll go make money that very day, while another dude will go through MMO courses like a locust and make not a shekel.

    I'd personally like to see higher and higher standards for ANYTHING that ANYBODY puts out, posts included! I see a handful of idealistic (in a good sense) marketers putting out incredible, well-researched and comprehensive products (David Walsh of M6 and Eben Pagan come to mind) that solve real problems well.

    I'd like to see WSOs go this route. Incidentally, this would allow the creator to charge more and be perfectly justified in doing so (of course, Warriors would still get a discount ;-)

    Just one man's opinion!

    Best Wishes
    Vic
  • It wouldn't be long before people start selling WSOs to manipulate WSO ratings.

    You know the kind of honest, ethical, credible, believable, realistic video testimonials you get from Fiverr for any products
  • Any ratings system has obvious failure points and people here are smart enough how to figure it out.

    I mean, anybody can buy "likes" or "diggs" or whatever. Nothing is going to stop them here, either.

    Plus, I can see some low-life competitor (wannabe) trying to mess with the OP's WSO...not good. Happens today.

    It's almost like a *human* must actually read this stuff and make a *judgement* based on his research.

    For $5 or $10, most people don't really care if the product is good or not. Sure, one might get miffed but nonetheless, he will shelve it and simply remember not to buy from that guy again.

    I know there are a ton of good WSOs out there and probably a lot of bad ones, too. But all in all, they're actually pretty good values...

    My best advice would be to leave a review whenever you buy something: Good, bad, or indifferent. Always weigh how much it cost you and the extent to which you can recoup your investment before you give a "thumbs up" or not.

    Great idea, though. Just don't think it can work. Too many ways to exploit the system.
  • Agree, it wouldn't work. Too much Buddying Up
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    • I agree with this. It's like most forums, you'll always get your little private circles etc.

      I have bought WSOs off here and they have been rubbish. Then again I have bought services and they too have been rubbish and not produced any results.
  • Threads like this crack me up. Anyone selling a product or services in the WSO section has complete transparency with their customers. Buzzards circle for miles around when a scammer puts up a thread. Not a first mind you. But anyone selling a less than kosher product:

    1) Will not have any reviews (or very limited and generic sounding ones if they do have any)

    2) If they did make sales of any type of volume there will be Warriors posting like mad on their thread asking for refunds and calling them every name under the book.

    Most Warriors would never do business with the latter. But they have no problem whatsoever with doing business with the former.

    So how do you protect yourself?

    You simply do business with vendors who have proven track records and large numbers of reviews.

    Amazingly simple solution if you think about it.

    Just because some buyers do not use common sense doesn't mean Allen has to build a frigging system to protect them from burning their cash on magic beans.

    Scammers cannot do any type of long term business here. Forum environments are an excellent place to find the vendors you need for that reason specifically. You just have to know what you're looking for ahead of time.

    But if you're scouring the wso section looking for magic beans you're hit already. You're like a drunk with a fat wallet sticking out of his back pocket sitting at the end of the bar. Sooner or later someone is going to take your money.
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  • It could be very difficult to rate something like this. Research & Judgment might help.
  • we should all demand that they tell us what they are about in the sales page, no more "mystery boxes"
  • I agree with you. BUT!...

    Let's turn the tables.

    Say you put up a WSO and got 100 dislikes and 20 likes. A) Nobody will ever buy from you again B) it basially sets you upfront faliure. That's why I think we shouldn't.

    It could help and hurt in both ways...
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    • Yea thats a great point!

      As your next WSO may just be the miracle money pill, but infortunately
      no one will buy it!

      Thanks
  • I think the reviews in the WSO thread are good enough for a rating system.

    Granted there are always going to be warriors leaving great reviews because they're brand new or got it for free- but if it's a bad WSO that will come out in the thread.

    Besides, compare the WSO process to buying something on Clickbank , Rapbank, Digiresults, etc.

    There's NO review on the sales page, and if you start searching through the internet you don't find honest reviews- you find sites like "truthaboutabsreview.com" where the guy knows SEO, but could be leaving the fakest review ever.

    Soooooooo yeah- I think the reviews in the WSO threads are good enough- if warriors are honest with them.
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