"Affiliate making 5 million per month" -- How? Who? Where?

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I was just reading an article that was written back in August of 2010. It's about being an author and publishing in print vs. digital, but there is one line I can't get over. Here's the quote...

"If you choose to go digital only as an e-book, this is where profit rules and amazing numbers can be achieved. How amazing? I know one man who nets between $5,000,000 and $10,000,000 per month with a single e-book and affiliate cross-selling to his customer lists."

I've heard about plenty of Clickbank stars taking in $10k+ per day and so on, but $10M in a month means you're pulling down over $300k per DAY.

Even if you're email list is 1 million people strong, it's hard to hit those kind of numbers.

What kind of author/affiliate is making $50 to $100 million per year? What type of scale are we talking about here?

What do you think? Full of it or is this legit? And if we assume that it is true, how is someone getting to those kinds of numbers?

This is only my 2nd post, so I can't put a link. The article is called, "How Authors Really Make Money: The Rebirth of Seth Godin and Death of Traditional Publishing" and it's on Tim Ferriss' blog The Four Hour Workweek.

p.s. I do realize the ridiculousness of asking a bunch of people that aren't making $100 million per year, how to make $100 million per year.
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    Originally Posted by jamesclear View Post

    I was just reading an article that was written back in August of 2010. It's about being an author and publishing in print vs. digital, but there is one line I can't get over. Here's the quote...

    "If you choose to go digital only as an e-book, this is where profit rules and amazing numbers can be achieved. How amazing? I know one man who nets between $5,000,000 and $10,000,000 per month with a single e-book and affiliate cross-selling to his customer lists."

    I've heard about plenty of Clickbank stars taking in $10k+ per day and so on, but $10M in a month means you're pulling down over $300k per DAY.

    Even if you're email list is 1 million people strong, it's hard to hit those kind of numbers.

    What kind of author/affiliate is making $50 to $100 million per year? What type of scale are we talking about here?

    What do you think? Full of it or is this legit? And if we assume that it is true, how is someone getting to those kinds of numbers?

    This is only my 2nd post, so I can't put a link. The article is called, "How Authors Really Make Money: The Rebirth of Seth Godin and Death of Traditional Publishing" and it's on Tim Ferriss' blog The Four Hour Workweek.

    p.s. I do realize the ridiculousness of asking a bunch of people that aren't making $100 million per year, how to make $100 million per year.
    Obviously I can't say for sure, but my common sense
    screams, say NO WAY! :rolleyes:

    That's a ridiculous claim as far as I'm concerned..

    A claim that I'd only believe w/physical proof... (not screen shots)
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    • Profile picture of the author Jaymark
      I think somehow the decimal point got moved. Now if you are JP Rowlings, then perhaps you might make that money on the Harry Potter books. But even that for booksales alone seems awfully high.

      So I would doubt the information very much.
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      • Profile picture of the author Mohammad Afaq
        Originally Posted by Jaymark View Post

        I think somehow the decimal point got moved. Now if you are JP Rowlings, then perhaps you might make that money on the Harry Potter books. But even that for booksales alone seems awfully high.

        So I would doubt the information very much.
        And if it helps, it's JK Rowling and not JP Rowling
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  • Profile picture of the author Tocholke
    Yeah, this is pretty insane. Don't you think that if someone had a $1mil per month eBook that you would have heard of it? Think about it.
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    • Profile picture of the author jamesclear
      Agreed, and Tim Ferriss has been known to make some bold claims in the name of compelling marketing.

      But here's the rub for me: what does he have to gain by making that statement?

      At the time of this article he was already an NYT best selling author and household name among Gen Y'ers. It's not like he needs that absurd sentence to make people pay attention to this article.

      I dunno, part of me believes that he isn't making it up. But part of me believes it sounds way too good to be true.

      The only idea I've had so far that makes sense is the following:

      It's not a person as much as it is a company. For example, Mint.com could have fit this description if they sold an ebook on personal finance. They make money by cross selling affiliate promotions from banks, etc... and then maybe they make some from the ebook as well.

      Still. I'm with you guys. It's a claim that is hard to believe.
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      • Profile picture of the author PatrickP
        Originally Posted by jamesclear View Post

        Agreed, and Tim Ferriss has been known to make some bold claims in the name of compelling marketing.

        But here's the rub for me: what does he have to gain by making that statement?
        What does he have to gain with saying that?

        A thread on WF and probably tons of other sites most of which will link to his blog.

        It is called marketing.

        I will say that Tim's book is probably the best book I have ever read. Amazing step by step instructions and info I have never seen anywhere else.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tim3
    "If you choose to go digital only as an e-book, this is where profit rules and amazing numbers can be achieved. How amazing? I know one man who nets between $5,000,000 and $10,000,000 per month with a single e-book and affiliate cross-selling to his customer lists."


    ebook sales $300 month and $9999700 selling MMO products to his list
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  • Profile picture of the author celente
    There are several warriors I know personally killing it in the affiliate marketing game.

    Yes, they do not have avatars and have weird names they also wear sandals and drive crappy cars...LOL...so look out.

    I know 2 of them personally, and they spend more on avertising each day than you will earn in a few months LOL. But their profits are huge each day too. Comes with much teseting.

    They know their stuff, and made mistakes and had successes along the way.

    Comes from media buying.
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  • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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    He was talking about me. I make 5-10 million per month (my signature has been a joke this entire time). I also own Australia, invented rain, and I date a different supermodel every hour (get this: they fight over me!).

    Do you see how easy it is to claim something...especially online? Take everything you read with a grain of salt, especially something that seems ridiculous.
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    • Profile picture of the author celente
      Originally Posted by Joe128139 View Post

      He was talking about me. I make 5-10 million per month (my signature has been a joke this entire time). I also own Australia, invented rain, and I date a different supermodel every hour (get this: they fight over me!).

      Do you see how easy it is to claim something...especially online? Take everything you read with a grain of salt, especially something that seems ridiculous.
      Ummm, hi

      If you own Australia and invented rain, stop sending it here to OZ please

      I am getting cabin fever...10 days raining here straight. oi.

      Plus send me over a supermodel, the wife is going on a business trip on the weekend
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      • Profile picture of the author Regional Warrior
        Originally Posted by celente View Post

        Ummm, hi

        If you own Australia and invented rain, stop sending it here to OZ please

        I am getting cabin fever...10 days raining here straight. oi.

        Plus send me over a supermodel, the wife is going on a business trip on the weekend
        Wait till you have it from Aug-Jan every day @ 100mls and of course followed by a 100 yr flood
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    • Profile picture of the author Mr Hollywood
      Originally Posted by Joe128139 View Post

      He was talking about me. I make 5-10 million per month (my signature has been a joke this entire time). I also own Australia, invented rain, and I date a different supermodel every hour (get this: they fight over me!).

      Do you see how easy it is to claim something...especially online? Take everything you read with a grain of salt, especially something that seems ridiculous.
      I knew it...... the signature is just a cover up....... :p
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  • Profile picture of the author manny2513
    No way somebody makes 5 millions per month just doing cross sales as an affiliate even people making 10k don;t do it from cross sales is just hype he is making those statements for something now since I don;t have the article at hand I don't why but I am sure that if I read it I can find you why he wants his readers to belive that it can be possible.
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  • Profile picture of the author theory expert
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    Hyperbole....


    even guys who cookie stuff wasn't making that...

    ...people who spam at the highest level and selling viagra and other prescription drugs shipped from india don't make that.

    No way, no how
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  • Profile picture of the author Gary_The_Ace
    I'm not sure why you guys find that number so hard to believe... you're just not thinking big enough.

    I've personally met 3 people that I know were making upwards of $5,000,000 a month selling information online... and a few more that I'm not sure about, but it wouldn't surprise me.

    5 million a month is a tiny amount in comparison to the sum total of money being spent online for information products...

    But I can't say I'm surprised to hear that people here don't believe it. No one here seems to believe that anyone is making millions of dollars online...

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    • Profile picture of the author nickdamodda
      Originally Posted by Gary_The_Ace View Post

      I'm not sure why you guys find that number so hard to believe... you're just not thinking big enough.

      I've personally met 3 people that I know were making upwards of $5,000,000 a month selling information online... and a few more that I'm not sure about, but it wouldn't surprise me.

      5 million a month is a tiny amount in comparison to the sum total of money being spent online for information products...

      But I can't say I'm surprised to hear that people here don't believe it. No one here seems to believe that anyone is making millions of dollars online...

      -Gary Ambrose
      Agreed, there are loads of money making opportunity's which are highly profitable that not a lot of people on here know of and/or don't believe are real money makers.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kevin_Hutto
    The most that I am sure that someone is making online selling ebooks is $12M. I don't personally know anyone making more than that. Or they haven't shown me.
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    • Profile picture of the author Ansar Pasha
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      Originally Posted by Kevin_Hutto View Post

      The most that I am sure that someone is making online selling ebooks is $12M. I don't personally know anyone making more than that. Or they haven't shown me.
      Last I heard Eben Pagan's "Double Your Dating" was doing 20 million a year - and it's probably grown since then.

      If you're talking specifically Ebooks (not just general virtual goods like audio, video), then I'm not too sure. But with the right marketing and product, I think it's possible.

      There are other online companies that make 12M look like a drop in the ocean.

      Ansar
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Hill
    Fat Loss 4 Idiots made $20,000,000 per year back in their prime. Not sure what they are doing now but if they manage to cross sell, monthly recurring fees etc. They may have been able to do those numbers for a while.

    But at the end of the day the figure really doesn't matter if it's not you. Know what I mean?
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  • Profile picture of the author Kevin Kimes
    I believe it.

    The claim is not that the eBook is making that much money. It's basically his whole business which makes that money, and the eBook is probably the primary platform for customer/subscriber acquisition.

    Progression in this industry tends to be exponential, while the number of people reaching each level of progression is inverse to that. $10/day leads to $100/day, leads to $1000/day, leads to $10,000/day. Obviously, there are many people doing 5 digit daily averages. Why is it hard to believe there isn't another level, a handful of uber-affiliates earning 6 digits per day?

    $167,000/day. $7,000/hour. $117/minute. If you make a $39 commission 3 times per minute, you're there. That's not easy, but I bet most of us have probably gotten three commissions of some amount within a one minute period before. So, it's not outside the realm of imagination or even of possibility.

    I've seen plenty of reports (I'm not talking about a "report" you buy as a WSO or whatever, I mean when a person is reporting their situation) where people demonstrate their highest income per time period. Thousand-dollar-hours are not that uncommon.

    Think about a $10k/day person's best hour. It's conceivable that their best hours - maybe a few hours per month - approach, or even exceed, their daily average. Those few who can step up to that next exponential level are the ones who figure out how to turn those "best hours" into hourly averages.

    Nobody is trying to sell a system that will get "anybody and everybody" to that level of income. Only a few people will be able to get that big, mostly because of market size limitations. But it's certainly possible for a few people to achieve.
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    • Profile picture of the author ExRat
      Hi,

      These threads are a bit like the discussions between people who read celebrity gossip in newspapers - in general they're pointless and useless plus the conversation usually revolves around sensationalism, extremes and situations that the discussers will most likely never experience.

      You get those who say, 'I used to go to school with celebrity X'. Likewise, you'll just get a mix of people here talking about how they don't believe it's possible and others taking the contrary position that it's entirely possible and that they know someone making $XYZ.

      Ultimately, it's all second-hand and hearsay.

      Think about it. If you were discussing real estate with a view to making a living from it, is it better to discuss the extremes - 'I know a bloke who owns a whole country' or is it better to talk about the transition phase where someone went from their first property to owning a whole street, how they scaled-up and what the early problems were that could have destroyed the plan?

      Or if you wanted to become a money lender, is it better to discuss how Goldman Sachs makes silly money via million dollar transactions, or is it better to discuss how Joe Blow went from ten customers to one hundred customers and the lessons he learned while transitioning from a sole trader to a limited company?

      Some will say that 'it's inspirational' to have discussions like this about earning amounts that are so high that they are above the comprehension level of the average warrior. 'It's motivational to discuss just how much money you could make.'

      I disagree. If someone is struggling to earn their first dollar, or struggling to earn enough to pay all of their bills and go full-time, while putting in all the hours they can while learning the ropes, it doesn't matter if you discuss making $50k per month or $5m per month - both figures are way above their comprehension level and are therefore mainly irrelevant.

      It's also demonstrative and supportive of the dreamer mentality. Consider how much more helpful it is to discuss doubling the profits of the average warrior and the strategies typically used to achieve this (which are most likely entirely different strategies surrounded by entirely different language than the strategies used to turn 7 figures into 8).

      Tim Ferriss writes some very good articles with a lot of information that is relevant to those at the lower end of the earning spectrum. Therefore, to isolate the most extreme part of the article and create a discussion out of it is pretty pointless and demonstrative of the sensationalism that mainstream media conditions people to focus upon.

      Many of you will dismiss my comments as negative and unnecessarily critical of an innocent conversation.

      One day, when you stop dreaming (this comment aimed at the average warrior) you'll realise why I spend the time writing this in order to help at least one person (or hopefully more) understand the importance of targetting your discussion/reading/learning on the subjects and topics which are relevant to your income level (and more importantly those just above it) while dismissing the rest of the irrelevant nonsense and noise that tends to dominate.

      Many of us are on a steep and painful learning curve as we extricate our mindset from the norm which previously kept us anchored to the bottom of the food-chain. My tip here is that if you want to accelerate that process and remove some of the pain, it might be worth considering doing the opposite of what everyone else is doing and ignore the sensational stuff while focussing on the boring, down-to-earth nuts and bolts. Protect your brain and your available time and be discerning about where you place your attention - not only will you be concentrating on more relevant subjects but you will also be training yourself to be a more critical thinker by habit, one who is earning the right to place themselves in the higher percentages.

      In order to reach great heights, you first need to learn to keep your feet firmly on the ground and your head out of the clouds. ExRat

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      • Profile picture of the author PatrickP
        Originally Posted by ExRat View Post

        Hi,

        These threads are a bit like the discussions between people who read celebrity gossip in newspapers - in general they're pointless and useless plus the conversation usually revolves around sensationalism, extremes and situations that the discussers will most likely never experience.

        You get those who say, 'I used to go to school with celebrity X'. Likewise, you'll just get a mix of people here talking about how they don't believe it's possible and others taking the contrary position that it's entirely possible and that they know someone making .

        Ultimately, it's all second-hand and hearsay.

        Think about it. If you were discussing real estate with a view to making a living from it, is it better to discuss the extremes - 'I know a bloke who owns a whole country' or is it better to talk about the transition phase where someone went from their first property to owning a whole street, how they scaled-up and what the early problems were that could have destroyed the plan?

        Or if you wanted to become a money lender, is it better to discuss how Goldman Sachs makes silly money via million dollar transactions, or is it better to discuss how Joe Blow went from ten customers to one hundred customers and the lessons he learned while transitioning from a sole trader to a limited company?

        Some will say that 'it's inspirational' to have discussions like this about earning amounts that are so high that they are above the comprehension level of the average warrior. 'It's motivational to discuss just how much money you could make.'

        I disagree. If someone is struggling to earn their first dollar, or struggling to earn enough to pay all of their bills and go full-time, while putting in all the hours they can while learning the ropes, it doesn't matter if you discuss making $50k per month or $5m per month - both figures are way above their comprehension level and are therefore mainly irrelevant.

        It's also demonstrative and supportive of the dreamer mentality. Consider how much more helpful it is to discuss doubling the profits of the average warrior and the strategies typically used to achieve this (which are most likely entirely different strategies surrounded by entirely different language than the strategies used to turn 7 figures into 8).

        Tim Ferriss writes some very good articles with a lot of information that is relevant to those at the lower end of the earning spectrum. Therefore, to isolate the most extreme part of the article and create a discussion out of it is pretty pointless and demonstrative of the sensationalism that mainstream media conditions people to focus upon.

        Many of you will dismiss my comments as negative and unnecessarily critical of an innocent conversation.

        One day, when you stop dreaming (this comment aimed at the average warrior) you'll realise why I spend the time writing this in order to help at least one person (or hopefully more) understand the importance of targetting your discussion/reading/learning on the subjects and topics which are relevant to your income level (and more importantly those just above it) while dismissing the rest of the irrelevant nonsense and noise that tends to dominate.

        Many of us are on a steep and painful learning curve as we extricate our mindset from the norm which previously kept us anchored to the bottom of the food-chain. My tip here is that if you want to accelerate that process and remove some of the pain, it might be worth considering doing the opposite of what everyone else is doing and ignore the sensational stuff while focussing on the boring, down-to-earth nuts and bolts. Protect your brain and your available time and be discerning about where you place your attention - not only will you be concentrating on more relevant subjects but you will also be training yourself to be a more critical thinker by habit, one who is earning the right to place themselves in the higher percentages.

        In order to reach great heights, you first need to learn to keep your feet firmly on the ground and your head out of the clouds. ExRat

        HTH
        Why is it posts which start with words like useless and pointless end up being the longest posts of the thread lol Just kidding don't get upset because it is true
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    • Profile picture of the author PatrickP
      Originally Posted by Kevin Kimes View Post

      I believe it.

      The claim is not that the eBook is making that much money. It's basically his whole business which makes that money, and the eBook is probably the primary platform for customer/subscriber acquisition.
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      No the claim is a single book

      $5,000,000 and $10,000,000 per month with a single e-book
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    • Profile picture of the author BlairBarnes
      Originally Posted by Kevin Kimes View Post

      I believe it.

      The claim is not that the eBook is making that much money. It's basically his whole business which makes that money, and the eBook is probably the primary platform for customer/subscriber acquisition.

      Progression in this industry tends to be exponential, while the number of people reaching each level of progression is inverse to that. $10/day leads to $100/day, leads to $1000/day, leads to $10,000/day. Obviously, there are many people doing 5 digit daily averages. Why is it hard to believe there isn't another level, a handful of uber-affiliates earning 6 digits per day?

      $167,000/day. $7,000/hour. $117/minute. If you make a $39 commission 3 times per minute, you're there. That's not easy, but I bet most of us have probably gotten three commissions of some amount within a one minute period before. So, it's not outside the realm of imagination or even of possibility.

      I've seen plenty of reports (I'm not talking about a "report" you buy as a WSO or whatever, I mean when a person is reporting their situation) where people demonstrate their highest income per time period. Thousand-dollar-hours are not that uncommon.

      Think about a $10k/day person's best hour. It's conceivable that their best hours - maybe a few hours per month - approach, or even exceed, their daily average. Those few who can step up to that next exponential level are the ones who figure out how to turn those "best hours" into hourly averages.

      Nobody is trying to sell a system that will get "anybody and everybody" to that level of income. Only a few people will be able to get that big, mostly because of market size limitations. But it's certainly possible for a few people to achieve.
      Very good breakdown...really shows what it actually would take to make that kind of money. it doesnt sound so crazy that way. Of course this could also be a lie but the point is that it is possible. There are plenty of people out there (well, not plenty) that make 100 million or more a year. It is definitely not coming from one ebook though. Just think about how much money Trump makes every day.

      The way I see it is this: Do I need that much money? I mean yeah it would be great, but if you set your sites on a much more realistic goal and achieve that first, you will go much farther.

      You can't go from broke to 1 million a year. First you have to make 100 bucks, then 1000 bucks etc. It is best to focus on a goal that is REALISTIC to your present situation, then once you meet that goal, set a bigger goal and move on from there. This will keep you motivated and will produce greater results in the long run...you are thinking long term right??
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  • Profile picture of the author antigravity
    I believe it and find it encouraging... there's people making millions every month in this world off the simplest things in ways most could never grasp.

    But in the end... you got to focus on raising up your own stuff. If what Tim Ferris says dosen't inspire you even a little bit... don't waste time there and move on to someone that will help you get where you're going.
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  • Profile picture of the author tpw
    No way to know without asking the author for a reference to that person.

    I would bet that there are a few people in Forex publishing who are making that kind of money, simply because their training materials generally start at $1,000 per unit. That would only be 5,000 to 10,000 units per month.

    Some have made that kind of money in launches, but those launches go big fast and die fast.

    Given what I know about some folks who are doing exceptionally well in publishing, I would not be the least surprised if the story was found to be true.

    Think about Ron Legrand for example... I don't know how much he earns with his real estate publishing empire, but I would bet the numbers are substantial.
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  • Profile picture of the author GENIX
    I just read the article and Tim Ferriss has some very competent points of view IMO. Here is the link for those who want to read it - How Authors Really Make Money: The Rebirth of Seth Godin and Death of Traditional Publishing

    He says in other words that this marketer is the leader in his niche and I have no doubt these numbers can be achieved in a fairly large niche with good volume. 2 billion people have Internet access, he probably sells around 1 milllion copies per year. When you put it that way it doesn't sound impossible anymore.
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  • Profile picture of the author BXPS
    Any refrences with proofs of income.
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    • Profile picture of the author E. Brian Rose
      Originally Posted by BXPS View Post

      Any refrences with proofs of income.
      Why does somebody making $5 million a month have to give you proof of income?

      There are a lot of affiliate only businesses that make $5 million a month or more. Why is that so hard to believe?

      When most people here think "affiliate", they are assuming that you are talking about mailing WSO or CB offers on how to get better position in Google. Affiliate marketing goes well above and beyond that narrow scope.

      There are successful publicly traded companies that do not have a product... they are resellers of somebody else's product, hence affiliates.
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      • Profile picture of the author theory expert
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        Originally Posted by E. Brian Rose View Post


        There are successful publicly traded companies that do not have a product... they are resellers of somebody else's product, hence affiliates.
        Could you name some companies?
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        • Profile picture of the author PatrickP
          Originally Posted by Team X View Post

          Could you name some companies?
          oh no you HAD to go there didn't you
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        • Profile picture of the author E. Brian Rose
          Originally Posted by Team X View Post

          Could you name some companies?
          Sure. How about MCI? In the 80's and 90's there was Sprint Worldcom.

          Both of these companies were affiliates of AT&T.

          How about HostGator? They are an affiliate of The Planet.

          What about ProFollow? Affiliates of Aweber.

          All of these "affiliates" are making the big bucks.

          Just because you have a support staff and sales force doesn't mean that you are not an affiliate.
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        • Profile picture of the author tpw
          Originally Posted by Team X View Post

          Originally Posted by E. Brian Rose View Post

          There are successful publicly traded companies that do not have a product... they are resellers of somebody else's product, hence affiliates.

          Could you name some companies?

          1. A company that E Brian Rose created and sold a few years ago.
          2. Wal-Mart.
          3. Best Buy.
          4. Night-time cold medicine. (Vicks Nyquil rebranded)
          5. E! Network on TV - they buy all their shows from other networks.
          6. Purina (Proof: 2007 pet food recalls - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)
          7. Del Monte (Proof: 2007 pet food recalls - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)

          I could provide more examples, if I wanted to spend more time on this.
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  • Profile picture of the author PatrickP
    Tim says the most sold kindle books are 500,000 copies TOTAL not per year but total.

    So if we say the person in his ebook example makes say 7 mil/ mo x 12 mo that is 84,000,000 per year. If the person sells 500,000 a year (a real stretch IMO) that is a profit(after paying affiliates, ads etc) of $168 per ebook. hmmmmmmmmmmm

    Good work if you can get it lol
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  • Profile picture of the author Itachi
    Sky is NOT the limit.

    I think it's well possible to do such an amount, with one single ebook I'm not sure but it would have to be very popular such as fat loss for idiots as someone mentioned but think about it if you're a serial ebook maker and a few of them become somewhat successful I can not tell for sure but I'm pretty confident that it's possible.

    And think about it maybe he made a single month 5 mil but now he maybe make 15 k per month with the same ebook who knows, I doubt he would be cashing in during years regularly that much of $$.
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  • Profile picture of the author tpw
    Originally Posted by HHannahreynolds View Post

    That number seams a little to high to believe.

    Which number defines the border between "believable" and "not believable"?

    Some people don't believe me when I tell them how much I earned online in 2006. But the IRS believed me. They even let me pay taxes on the full amount that I claimed!! :rolleyes:
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      Originally Posted by tpw View Post

      Which number defines the border between "believable" and "not believable"?

      Some people don't believe me when I tell them how much I earned online in 2006. But the IRS believed me. They even let me pay taxes on the full amount that I claimed!! :rolleyes:
      The dirty rotten thieves!! How DARE they?
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  • Profile picture of the author Mohammad Afaq
    This thread isn't really gonna go anywhere IMO.

    Do people make millions per month online?

    Yup.

    Does this "mysterious person" make 5-10 million online?

    Maybe he does, maybe he doesn't.

    I don't know, you don't know and it's very probable that no one in this thread knows so all of the replies here are opinions and nothing more.

    So the only way we would get closer to some sort of a "conclusion" is if Mr. Tim Ferriss himself jumps into the thread and tell us who the person is (and even then we will have people arguing over whether he is telling the truth).

    So Popcorn anyone?

    (I bet Chris Worner will be mad )
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  • Profile picture of the author theory expert
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    Ok so this one guy is making net 5, 10 million cross selling.......

    not from a single ebook....

    I know one man who nets between $5,000,000 and $10,000,000 per month with a single e-book and affiliate cross-selling to his customer lists. I’m not kidding. The downside is that you need to be a world-class marketer and understand affiliate and CPA advertising better than anyone else in your niche (since there is little barrier to entry, and therefore plenty of competition).


    SOURCE:
    http://www.fourhourworkweek.com/blog...nt-publishing/

    $5, 10 million a month net with a ebook and cross selling is unreachable to me.

    The people who make that kind of money usually are doing offline stuff in the financial markets, or, selling lots of goods like procter gamble.
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    I think Common sense don't worked on your mind , because i can challenge that it is "IMPOSSIBLE".
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  • Profile picture of the author Fun to Write
    Look outside of the narrow focus of IM ebook products. There may be topics that are extremely popular i.e. self-help Think and Grow Rich titles that catch fire with a certain crowd.

    I do think this is possible. This author may do speaking engagements, hold seminars, have a huge list of rabid fans, may have ties to celebrities, etc.
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  • Profile picture of the author WebPen
    To be honest, I wouldn't worry about if this is true or not.

    Instead why not worry about your own business?

    The reason 99% of people fail is because they're too busy looking at what the other guy is doing.

    ...without realizing that the other guy is moving and shaking, while you just watch him.
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    • Profile picture of the author PatrickP
      Originally Posted by Justin Stowe View Post


      The reason 99% of people fail is because they're too busy looking at what the other guy is doing.

      .
      That is the reason 99% of people fail? And here I thought there were other reason hmmmmmmmmm :rolleyes:
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      • Profile picture of the author E. Brian Rose
        Originally Posted by PatrickP View Post

        That is the reason 99% of people fail? And here I thought there were other reason hmmmmmmmmm :rolleyes:
        Slight exaggeration, but surely you got the point of his statement.
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      Originally Posted by Justin Stowe View Post

      To be honest, I wouldn't worry about if this is true or not.

      Instead why not worry about your own business?

      The reason 99% of people fail is because they're too busy looking at what the other guy is doing.

      ...without realizing that the other guy is moving and shaking, while you just watch him.
      Me: Hey look that guy is watering his plants. Dang he has a huge garden
      Friend: Dude your house is on fire.
      Me: Gimme a minute, I gotta find out what kind those flowers on the right are.
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  • Profile picture of the author theory expert
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    Thanks for the company examples.

    I am not sure about the MCI at&T example though. According to wiki.. MCI was founded in 1963 and there purpose was to sell cheaper packages than AT&T. To me that made them a direct competitor less I am missing something.

    MCI was founded as Microwave Communications, Inc. on 3 October 1963 with John D. Goeken being named the company's first president. The initial business plan was for the company to build a series of microwave relay stations between Chicago, Illinois and St. Louis, Missouri...

    ...In addition to the radio relay services, MCI soon made plans to offer voice, computer information, and data communication services for business customers unable to afford AT&T's TELPAK service.
    MCI Communications - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    P.S. Justin Stowe....this is just conversation to let the community have a spirited debate. Maybe the numbers arent important, but, I see the irony in those who say it is not important posting.
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    • Profile picture of the author tpw
      Originally Posted by Team X View Post

      Thanks for the company examples.

      I am not sure about the MCI at&T example though. According to wiki.. MCI was founded in 1963 and there purpose was to sell cheaper packages than AT&T. To me that made them a direct competitor less I am missing something.

      For a time during the 1980's, many of the phone companies were renting backbone from each other.

      In the late 80's, a lot of phone companies were renting MCI's fiber backbone.

      Then MCI imploded, going from the "largest privately owned company in the world" to the "history books".
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      • Profile picture of the author Itachi
        Correct me if I'm wrong but the big names of physical products distributors and ressellers are affiliated with the brand they sell and many of those companys sell online.

        Needless to debate about their benefits lol.
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        • Profile picture of the author theory expert
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          Originally Posted by Itachi View Post

          Correct me if I'm wrong but the big names of physical products distributors and ressellers are affiliated with the brand they sell and many of those companys sell online.

          Needless to debate about their benefits lol.
          Are you saying that the person in question is not serving a benefit to make $10 mill net per month?

          He could buy a sports team or sell his company and live off the interest. Them numbers are real heavy.
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          • Profile picture of the author Itachi
            Originally Posted by Team X View Post

            Are you saying that the person in question is not serving a benefit to make $10 mill net per month?

            He could buy a sports team or sell his company and live off the interest. Them numbers are real heavy.
            Mmh ? not sure I get you.

            What I mean is if you look well in the end 5 Millions per month is peanuts for some company that are like affiliates but it's not really affiliate mostly partnership though it was just a comparison, buying products at 10$ and selling it at 15$ is not much more different than generating sales for someone else for a comission.
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  • Profile picture of the author PatrickP
    Originally Posted by E. Brian Rose View Post

    Slight exaggeration, but surely you got the point of his statement.
    I don't believe it at all.

    I don't think a single business failed because they paid too much attention to competitors.
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    • Profile picture of the author E. Brian Rose
      Originally Posted by PatrickP View Post

      I don't believe it at all.

      I don't think a single business failed because they paid too much attention to competitors.
      I do. Some people get very distracted by the latest greatest way of doing things and switch gears at the drop of the hat, without completing a single thing.

      Want to get rich? Develop a drug for business A-D-D.
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  • Profile picture of the author E. Brian Rose
    I could be mistaken about MCI, but I am almost certain that AT&T was the only company with communication satelites for quite some time and all of their "competitors" were actually reselling the AT&T air.
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    • Profile picture of the author tpw
      Originally Posted by E. Brian Rose View Post

      I could be mistaken about MCI, but I am almost certain that AT&T was the only company with communication satelites for quite some time and all of their "competitors" were actually reselling the AT&T air.

      I also believed that to be the case Brian, until the MaBell breakup in 1983 (?).
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  • Profile picture of the author skylarw
    Just spent 7 minutes reading this thread...gain? I think not. I am going to stop admiring the other guys flowers for now
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    • Profile picture of the author E. Brian Rose
      Originally Posted by skylarw View Post

      Just spent 7 minutes reading this thread...
      And you will never get those seven minutes of your life back.
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      • Profile picture of the author tpw
        Originally Posted by E. Brian Rose View Post

        And you will never get those seven minutes of your life back.



        I am dancing on the grave of those 7 minutes!! :p
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        Originally Posted by E. Brian Rose View Post

        And you will never get those seven minutes of your life back.
        Oh, that's just mean
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      • Profile picture of the author Kal Sallam
        Originally Posted by E. Brian Rose View Post

        And you will never get those seven minutes of your life back.
        Never say never! Anything is possible in this universe:rolleyes:
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  • Profile picture of the author JamesGw
    I can believe he does that. It's definitely possible to pull in huge numbers. It's just unlikely. The dude is obviously an outlier and industry leader if he's making that kind of cash.
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    Send some of that rain to Oklahoma!
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  • Profile picture of the author anthonyb
    Anything is possible
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    • Profile picture of the author zanbrok
      i wanna make 1 trillion an hour, only i don't want it in cash, i want it in pure gold bullion. Think thats possible?


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      Anything is possible
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        Originally Posted by zanbrok View Post

        i wanna make 1 trillion an hour, only i don't want it in cash, i want it in pure gold bullion. Think thats possible?

        Yes, I am already doing it, but you can't do it until I retire. What most people don't know is that I own the Internet. Any time anyone anywhere clicks on a link, IPS's pay me a penny.
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  • Profile picture of the author zanbrok
    Originally Posted by jamesclear View Post


    "If you choose to go digital only as an e-book, this is where profit rules and amazing numbers can be achieved. How amazing? I know one man who nets between $5,000,000 and $10,000,000 per month with a single e-book and affiliate cross-selling to his customer lists."
    PAY ATTENTION.THE ABOVE IS A MISQUOTE. Not sure why the op would be so incompetent, but the correct quote is 5-10 million a year. thats only 500k a month. And why the F... am I the only one that noticeted this?

    If you choose to go digital only as an e-book, this is where profit rules and amazing numbers can be achieved. How amazing? I know one man who nets between $5,000,000 and $10,000,000 per year with a single e-book and affiliate cross-selling to his customer lists. I’m not kidding. The downside is that you need to be a world-class marketer and understand affiliate and CPA advertising better than anyone else in your niche (since there is little barrier to entry, and therefore plenty of competition). Prepare to be an uber-competent CEO or fail if you choose this option

    How Authors Really Make Money: The Rebirth of Seth Godin and Death of Traditional Publishing
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  • Profile picture of the author 3000
    The person they are talking about in the article could be Mike Geary. He is the creator of the crazy popular ebook that shows people how to get 6 pack abs. He tests and tests his landing pages to get the maximum conversions.
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  • Profile picture of the author ezmystic
    The article also says he buys huge amounts of traffic and resells it, and uses advertising. It is not just 1 ebook that makes all that money, it's the cross selling the buying and selling of traffic etc that makes all that money. The ebook was his gateway into this game.
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeTucker
    Be careful what you read on Wikipedia... It is written by the general public, and that is never a good thing.

    I can guarantee you that MCI was an affiliate of AT&T, along with 99% of the other phone companies, because I was working for MCI at the time, and left to work for AT&T. Yes, MCI started out with the attempt of using microwave technology for communications (thus the name), but the shorter waves did not allow true long distance communication and was too expensive to scale. Finally, they got the government to force AT&T to break-up and share, like a parent taking away the child's birthday toys that he built by himself and forcing him to allow other kids to play with them. AT&T built the phone company, and others were just paying a very nominal amount to allow them to charge customers full price.


    That being said, there are many authors who make this kind of money over the short term, and $5M in sales, or even in profit, is not actually that much, although it normally lasts for only a few months. I know of two Sci-Fi/Fantasy writers that are making a truly stupid amount of money this year (although the publishers are taking most of it).


    In the "make money" niches, it is certainly possible as well... After all, people will always be happy to spend money if they believe it will make them more.



    Finally, I would argue that these threads do indeed have value. A lot of people are much more willing to put in the actual work when they know that something is possible. I do have my doubts about many such claims, especially withn anything that certain people's name appears on, but make no mistake: This kind of money is certainly possible, often for several months at a time.


    Maybe not with your little list of a ten or twenty thousand, but when you have a list of 40 million+ dedicated fans (i.e. R.A. Salvatore) it's really not that much of a stretch, is it?


    So go ahead, dream. Learn, invest in yourself, and work your tail off. After five to eight years of dedicated, focused, organized work, you'll find that you're making more moeny than you ever thought possible.
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  • Profile picture of the author money fan
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    300k a day? I could only imagine that.
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  • Profile picture of the author jt808
    I believe it, although the article said, 5 - 10 million per year, which many digital products and services are able to produce.

    Great article by-the-way.
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  • Profile picture of the author visimedia
    that's huge amount.. I'd love to be that affiliate ... lol ... it's possible, just we don't know who it is.. if your list is big enough, I'm sure we can do it!
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  • Profile picture of the author TryBPO
    Hmmm...

    When I read the OP's original post, 2-3 people came to mind that I thought "could" make that kind of money from online publishing.

    Seth Godin was one of them! :-)

    I don't know about the income claims and Tim has been known to stretch things a bit...but if anyone WERE able to make that kind of revenue online it would be someone like Seth Godin. While he's relatively new...he's a Top-Tier A-lister when it comes to marketing...and he publishes a TON of content.
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    • Profile picture of the author Karen Blundell
      So many people are obsessed with what other people are earning. It's crazy. I mean really, just worry about what you're doing and don't try to be like anyone. You are unique. You are special. And you'll get to where you are going in your own time.

      I absolutely believe that anything is possible. But what good is it going to do you or me when there is no way we have the advertising budget that the person has to generate those figures.

      Think about it. You can make money using nothing but your own creativity. But you can make a hell of of lot more money when you already have money.

      Capiche?
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  • Profile picture of the author edwinms
    maybe it is posible and maybe not.. as far as i knoow if he sells book he can get 5 Million per month.. many famous author got that.. i dont know if ebook.. what kind of ebook is that? i am interested.. :p
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