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jthenry55

13 years ago

any advice would be greatly appreciated from an actual amazon affiliate.

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Pauline60

13 years ago

Just had a quick look and first off I would say that for the term 'leather office chair' the first ten places on Google are occupied mainly by large sites with a lot of backlinks.
You do have near enough an exact match domain name but even with that you are going to need a lot more backlinks than you currently have. At the moment you seem to have a handful of profile type links showing as PR0 - you need more backlinks, greater diversity and some higher PR.
In order to make and real money you have to get onto page 1 for your keyword, and you will need to be near the top as it only gets around 1600 exact searches per month.

Hope this helps a bit, no doubt other Warriors with more experience will be able to offer better advice than I can.

Pauline

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cooler1

13 years ago

How long have you been doing it for? It takes time for these sites to rank so patience is needed. Also you need backlinks from a variety of sources. A fiver gig isn't likely to do much good as they're most likely poor quality links.

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jbsmith

13 years ago

Many of my sites (Amazon affiliate and my own blogs, product sites) took anywhere from 2-4 months to rank highly for a given keyword - I probably could have sped that up with more aggressive pursuit of backlinks, but I'm not positive on that.

It simply seems to me that Google factors time into its algorithms as well as factors such as domain name, on-page factors, backlinks, etc...

I would continue to generate content, continue to work on a diversity of backlinks and move on...look back in 1-2 months and you should see the traffic go way up.

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greenowl123

13 years ago

Originally Posted by jbsmith

Many of my sites (Amazon affiliate and my own blogs, product sites) took anywhere from 2-4 months to rank highly for a given keyword - I probably could have sped that up with more aggressive pursuit of backlinks, but I'm not positive on that.

It simply seems to me that Google factors time into its algorithms as well as factors such as domain name, on-page factors, backlinks, etc...

I would continue to generate content, continue to work on a diversity of backlinks and move on...look back in 1-2 months and you should see the traffic go way up.

Jeff

Hi Jeff,

I know time is a factor that most folks do not realize.

What kind of backlinks do you recommend for getting diversity ?

I usually do a video submission to 10 or more video sharing sites with a backlink, an SENuke blast as a linkwheel, hire somebody on fiverr to do 100+ social bookmarks, rss submission to about 70 aggregators, and some light article marketing. After getting on 1st page of SERP, I will do a scrapebox blast.

What do you usually do ?

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jthenry55

13 years ago

I have had the site running for over 6 months, maybe even 8 months. I did what SEO I could, wrote some ezine articles, and recently started a squidoo page and joined a bookmarking site not sure how that's going yet?, and recently purchased those 250 backlinks from fivver, but do you think that the fivver links i'm getting are worth it? but other than that I haven't done much with backlinking because i'm not sure how to go about it with something like leather office chairs because stuff like forum posting and blog posting there are not many forums on leather office chairs or blogs that blog about office chairs. I know there are services like 3waylinkbuilder but it cost a monthly fee of like $39.00 or so. but as far time for the site like I said it has up for around 6-8 months.

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AnniePot 13 years ago

I suggest you search for Warrior GazCooperOnline. He is running an Amazon Academy, and at the moment, sign-up is free. He should be able to offer you some guidance.
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realfun 13 years ago

The site only has 20 links showing in yahoo and even though they are closing down their site explorer, you still need more links

Im releasing a WSO in the next few weeks how my first niche site made $25,000 in 12 months and i was in the same boat back then... wasn't until i did more links that it took off

For a site thats 6-8 months old, you should have more links

Get some blogs to take articles and give you a link in return

Don't rely on just fiverr stuff, profile links. Get links from all sorts of places

Get some every day, the site has 10 pages which is fine.

Links links links.. a retail company doesnt stop advertising just because its done a sweep in a magaazine... links everyday and it will grow

Dont worry about PR , its a load of rubbish. Ive never worried about PR and i do fine. Its a load of rubbish

Also, competiton looks easy as the other sites in the top ten for that keyword are all subpages so you can easily shoot past them

Also, you will start to pick up longtail traffic with more links

link ... more...do it

Rob
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greenowl123

13 years ago

Some fiverr gigs are much better than others.

Some fiverr gigs are worthless.

I recommend using these gigs by these people on fiverr :

volarex

amay024

jimmyjam1983

kmwriting

crorckservice

dino_stark

use their most ordered gigs by other people. They have lots of repeat customers, so that tells you a lot. They get me good results with my SEO efforts.

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gammon

13 years ago

Originally Posted by greenowl123

Some fiverr gigs are much better than others.

Some fiverr gigs are worthless.

I recommend using these gigs by these people on fiverr :

volarex

amay024

jimmyjam1983

kmwriting

crorckservice

dino_stark

use their most ordered gigs by other people. They have lots of repeat customers, so that tells you a lot. They get me good results with my SEO efforts.

Thanks for this information,will check it.
For the op question.
I think you need to find a good fiverr gigs first.
second,your site just got 22 backlinks in backlinkwatch.com
I think this is not enough.
Since so many warriors work on amazon,maybe I should give it a try.

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InitialEffort

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Pauline60

Just had a quick look and first off I would say that for the term 'leather office chair' the first ten places on Google are occupied mainly by large sites with a lot of backlinks.
You do have near enough an exact match domain name but even with that you are going to need a lot more backlinks than you currently have. At the moment you seem to have a handful of profile type links showing as PR0 - you need more backlinks, greater diversity and some higher PR.
In order to make and real money you have to get onto page 1 for your keyword, and you will need to be near the top as it only gets around 1600 exact searches per month.

Hope this helps a bit, no doubt other Warriors with more experience will be able to offer better advice than I can.

Pauline

You can beat these websites. There are many huge brands that are out there that I am beating. To rank you are probably going to need a whole lot more than fiverr gigs. Realistically, you should expect to spend about $250-300 to get this think ranking well to the point that you can get it to earn a passive income of $100-250 per month.

I use the Amazonian Profit Plan and it it very similar to Jan's.

Also kick the adsense of your website. You already have affiliate links and you are slightly hurting your onpage SEO while you are trying to rank. There is no sense in doing that. Get the rank then add the Adsense if you really want to.

Also your website is not very clean, so I would expect your bounce rate is quite high off the homepage.

Your reviews are also kind of annoying and don't look very professionals. You need to add some paragraphs and line breaks.

Use <li> and <ul> to set up parts of features and specifications.

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myob 13 years ago

You can bypass the SERP competition completely by doing some write-ups about the executive chairs while waiting for your site to rank. Write articles for example about ergonomics, sitting posture, spine support, etc with a link to inside product pages previewing the products relevant to your article slant. Put these articles on your site, then submit them to a couple of top article directories. Then begin a marketing campaign of your articles to some of the top websites and blogs who are ranking for your target keywords or closely for long tail keywords. Also consider articles or solo ads in niche ezines. What I do also is write articles for offline publications such as magazines, trade journals, professional newsletters, newspapers, etc. This exposure is free (except for optional solo ads) and the side benefit is these articles will all contribute significantly to your backlinking strategy. It is important to write regularly and continue to expand your base of outlets as widely as possible.
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razorhound

13 years ago

Just had a look at your site and I have some suggestions.

1. Remove adsense, it looks ugly and distracting.
2. Break your reviews into several paragraphs.
3. Make a bulleted list (features)
4. Jan's reviews are more than 600 words and most of yours are below 300 words.
5. Use keywords in H1 headings
6. Diversify your backlinks

You did not actually follow Jan's course step by step so you might want to watch the videos again. Aside from that, you need more sites to achieve what he is making now. What kind of links did you get from fiverr?

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jthenry55

13 years ago

Originally Posted by razorhound

Just had a look at your site and I have some suggestions.

1. Remove adsense, it looks ugly and distracting.
2. Break your reviews into several paragraphs.
3. Make a bulleted list (features)
4. Jan's reviews are more than 600 words and most of yours are below 300 words.
5. Use keywords in H1 headings
6. Diversify your backlinks

You did not actually follow Jan's course step by step so you might want to watch the videos again. Aside from that, you need more sites to achieve what he is making now. What kind of links did you get from fiverr?

Cheers,
Bryan

What steps did I not follow accept for subscribing to 3way links? I removed my adsense, and started breaking up my posts into paragraphs but still have some to do, as far as how long my posts should be most people say 300-500 words I know my posts are only 300 but it still falls in the range but from now on I will try to write longer posts closer to 600 words. I started making my product features into a bullet format. As far as my <h1>, <h1/> tags im not sure how to do this. from my research it looks like i would change the archive.php, index.php, page.php, single.php in my wordpress review theme but heres what I got in my archive.php file
<h2><a href="<?php the_permalink() ?>" rel="bookmark"><?php the_title(); ?></a></h2>

do i simply change the <h2>,<h2/> to <h1>,<h1/> and leave everything thats between the tags

and than closer to the bottom of the archive.php file theres another tag like this

<h2 class="center">Not Found</h2>

should this also be <h1> tags or leave these ones alone.

and lastly how do diversify my backlinks?

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J.T

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jthenry55

13 years ago

Originally Posted by jthenry55

What steps did I not follow accept for subscribing to 3way links? I removed my adsense, and started breaking up my posts into paragraphs but still have some to do, as far as how long my posts should be most people say 300-500 words I know my posts are only 300 but it still falls in the range but from now on I will try to write longer posts closer to 600 words. I started making my product features into a bullet format. As far as my <h1>, <h1/> tags im not sure how to do this. from my research it looks like i would change the archive.php, index.php, page.php, single.php in my wordpress review theme but heres what I got in my archive.php file
<h2><a href="<?php the_permalink() ?>" rel="bookmark"><?php the_title(); ?></a></h2>

do i simply change the <h2>,<h2/> to <h1>,<h1/> and leave everything thats between the tags

and than closer to the bottom of the archive.php file theres another tag like this

<h2 class="center">Not Found</h2>

should this also be <h1> tags or leave these ones alone.

and lastly how do diversify my backlinks?

Thanks for all the help guys

J.T

does anyone have the answer for my <h1> tags. And how much does changing these tags improve my SEO?

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Cool Hand Luke

13 years ago

First off, you need to stop posting the same threads over and over and over. You've already started a few of them about this exact website and you will get the same answers over and over.

Second, you need to TAKE the advice offered and do something with it. You obviously have not made the adjustments advised by warriors in your other threads.

Last, don't pin all of your hopes on one site. Living and dying by the success or failure of a single site is not a great idea, and can drive you crazy.

My advice? Make the advised changes to your site, then leave it alone and start on another. Or do something else entirely.

Check out my thread here:
http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...t-knowing.html

What did I do? I set up an amazon review site and literally forgot about it, focusing on other things. When I found out it had made a bunch of money, it was a nice treat, but not the success or failure of my business or my mindset.

Diversify, and don't go crazy worrying about one site. Good luck!

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jthenry55

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Cool Hand Luke

First off, you need to stop posting the same threads over and over and over. You've already started a few of them about this exact website and you will get the same answers over and over.

Second, you need to TAKE the advice offered and do something with it. You obviously have not made the adjustments advised by warriors in your other threads.

Last, don't pin all of your hopes on one site. Living and dying by the success or failure of a single site is not a great idea, and can drive you crazy.

My advice? Make the advised changes to your site, then leave it alone and start on another. Or do something else entirely.

Check out my thread here:
http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...t-knowing.html

What did I do? I set up an amazon review site and literally forgot about it, focusing on other things. When I found out it had made a bunch of money, it was a nice treat, but not the success or failure of my business or my mindset.

Diversify, and don't go crazy worrying about one site. Good luck!

First off I have tried to implement all advice that I have received from the warriors, but there are things suggested that I don't know how to do myself and when I try to research how to do it I get lost in information overload, but I have done everything to my site that was suggested here at least most of them, and the things I have not done are either do to spending more money or simply knowing how to do it.

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tobermory

13 years ago

According to Traffic Travis, 7 out of the top 10 results are optimized for your key phrase, for me this means the competition is far too difficult to justify trying to rank a term that only gets about 50 searches a day.

If you get to the bottom of page one, I reckon you would average about 5 visitors per day, with a conversion rate of 5% you would make one sale per 4 days. If the average price of the products your promoting is $150 and your comm is 5%, you would make $7.50 per 4 days.

Obviously all the figures above are rough estimates but I think the best you could hope for would be $50-$60 per month after alot of hardwork getting it to rank in the top 10.

When choosing your keywords for an amazon review site its important to pick products that get a decent search volume every month in order to drive extra traffic to your inner pages. I had a quick look at the google keyword tool and doesnt look like any of the products your promoting get any significant search volume.

Sorry to say but I would give up on this site and mark it down as a learning experience, go back to the drawing board and look for a new set of products to promote with new keywords. (Ive been in exactly the same position as you and sometimes you have to bite the bullet). If you want to pm me with keyword ideas Ill take a look at them for you and give you my opinion.

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jthenry55

13 years ago

do others think I should just scrap this site? I want to do more sites but I thought I should get one working and making decent money before i moved on to something else, but maybe i'm wrong. What do you guys think scrap the site and by that I mean stop dedicating anymore time to it and if makes money than so be it and just start finding other products to sell?

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Link 13 years ago

Originally Posted by jthenry55

do others think I should just scrap this site?

No, don't scrap the site! You might want to start working on another one, but you should definitely let this one sit and age (at least). Google loves to see a site that's been around for a bit (like greater than a year). If you build links and continually improve the site, you'll start to get traffic eventually. Later you can consider rewriting some of the reviews and changing some other things to help your bounce rate, etc.

If you're already getting traffic, consider adding more calls to action to get your visitor to either read more reviews or go to Amazon.com. The "visit website" button you have is pretty vague. A link that says "click here to see the price at Amazon.com" or something like that would probably do better.
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Gaz Cooper

13 years ago

Originally Posted by jthenry55

do others think I should just scrap this site? I want to do more sites but I thought I should get one working and making decent money before i moved on to something else, but maybe i'm wrong. What do you guys think scrap the site and by that I mean stop dedicating anymore time to it and if makes money than so be it and just start finding other products to sell?

Hey JT

By all means start on a new site as not all sites will be HITS but this time spend plenty of time on your research and be sure to think outside the box when building the next site.

There are some fantastic products that have hardly ANY competition with some massive search volume and when you see that screen with the competition box with hardly any greyed out area and then a search volume in the thousands EMD available and hardly any comp on P1 of the big G, you hit the jackpot, and they are there i assure you

When someone digs for Gold it can be tough to find a nugget but when you do find one there is no feeling like it when you see that glint of Gold shining in the light when you finally unearth it.

It takes a lot of effort but then again that is why not everyone strikes Gold but those that put the effort in and keep at it eventually find it.

Just spend plenty of time on research, building the site is the easy part

Good Luck

Kickin it on Amazon

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Gaz Cooper 13 years ago

Good Info Tobermory

The MOST IMPORTANT part of building Amazon Affiliate site is finding the right Product and then doing your KEYWORD/Competition research

You HAVE to take your time with this step as it will make or break you, but time after time I find people rushing this step when it reality this is the absolute most important step of the whole process which will directly determine the success of your site.

It is also the most tedious and many find it difficult, not because its difficult, its very easy but they get frustrated since many don't think out of the box so tend to be looking at the most popular products which are also the most competitive.

Don't make the same mistake spend plenty of time on the Keyword and competition research because those few hours will literally determine if you sink or swim where each of your sites are concerned.

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fitz10

13 years ago

Don't wait for Google to rank you. It might never happen and even if it does, it takes time. In the meantime start driving traffic to your site. If you have some cash (or one of those Adwords vouchers) look into some low priced keywords. Start guest posting in relevant blogs and/or ask some newsletter providers if they need any content to send to their list. Come up with a really good list idea like best leather chairs for playing xbox or something silly like that, put it on your site and then put it on Digg or StumbleUpon and hope for viral traffic. Put a relevant video up on YouTube and have it link back to your site. Those are just a few ideas. The point is never depend completely on Google for your traffic.

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PhiladelphiaSeo

13 years ago

Hey J.T.

Here is my two cents and you might not like what I have to say. I dont think this has anything to do with SEO.

You have a strategy problem.

First, you picked a niche you have very little chance of ranking for. There are over 3 million webpages going after your keyword term exactly.

Many of these sites are HUGE brands with huge sites. Google is really favoring Brands these days.

The other thing is you are NOT being your customer. Let me ask you, would you buy a leather office chair online or would you go to the store, sit it them, spin around in them, adjust them? Buy them right there in the store and NOT pay shipping?

You need to find affiliate offers that are exclusively online. You want products where it is not easy for people to go to the store and buy them. IMHO.

If you still want to pursue this niche, I would find a speciality BRAND name chair, do your keyword research on this and promote this specially chair as your "editors choice"

From an SEO standpoint, you only have 267 links from 6 domains. Your Page authority is 28 and your domain authority is only 19. You competition has page authorities in the 40's and Domain authority in the 70's and 80's.

You'll need to roll up your sleeves on this.

P.S. Amazon only pays 4% commissions....you'll need to sell a ton of chairs just to pay for your hosting.

This might be bitter medicine but its the truth.

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PPC-Coach

13 years ago

Totally agree with the above post.

There's 2 issues:

1.) The product. It's not one that would sell online when you can go down to staples or any office furniture store and sit down in one first to test it and make sure it's comfortable.

2.) You did 50% of the work. You did the easy part, building the site. You now need to focus all your efforts on building back links. Whether you use software or you pay someone to do it. Backlinks should be done on a schedule until you reach your desired spot on the page. Then you have to do maintenance backlinking too later at a reduced rate.

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jthenry55 13 years ago

Ok,
so the choice in product wasn't the best I get that, but maybe the chairs I'm promoting on amazon are cheaper and if you look at the number of sales on these chairs you can see people are buying them from amazon. Sometimes buying online is just more convenient for people, if it wasn't and people only bought things online that they couldn't find in a store, internet marketers and affiliates would be S.O.L. Also how do you guys get these stats on my website? I use seoquake free edition and it only shows my site having something like 25 links but someone stated I have 267 links from 6 sites.
I am on page 1 of google for some keywords that receive 170 or so searches a month and I have made some sales but as far as having to sell a ton to get my hosting back is not true most office chairs sell for over $100 and at 4% commission and I only pay something like $9.00 a month on hostgator for unlimited hosting. I have learned to do better research but am nervous to start another site that doesn't perform I just put so much time and energy into this one which is fine, I learned a lot, but it was hard and just don't want to keep failing. like i said i use seo quake to size up the competition. it shows links and page rank and other stuff, and I use google keyword tool but thats about it for researching the competition which i'm starting to think is not enough. What do you guys do for checking keyword competition for first page of google and finding good keywords?
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Gary Ning Lo

13 years ago

When you use fiverr to get backlinks, make sure that they will get these links indexed..

Else it's useless..

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jthenry55 13 years ago

how do i know if there indexed? I notice that my backlinks have gone up at least according to seo quake.
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