As we all know, around the first of the year, the WSO sub-forum began changing in a significant way.
It was around about that time that people were selling reports on other websites saying the fastest way to bank online was to put together a simple 3-5 page report and sell it to the newbies at the Warrior Forum.
To my knowledge, there were at least two people who were making money teaching newbies to create products to sell to other newbies in the WSO forum.
Unfortunately, the nature of the Internet is any system that can be abused, will be abused. It seems to be the law of the jungle.
This was about the same time that people were selling products that taught people to buy PLR and Public Domain content, so they could create Kindle books and reports, and they could make that fast buck on the backs of people who were using the Kindle marketplace to buy books. :rolleyes:
What started happening in the WSO forum was not unique to the Warrior Forum. It is happening all over the Internet now, and many websites are responding with a heavy hand.
There was a thread here at the forum about a month back where the OP said that Amazon was rejecting his submission to Kindle on the basis of the content not being unique.
He kept changing the title and cover of the book, and the Amazon editors continued to reject his PLR submission to their catalog.
He asked what he could do to get his submission passed the editors at Amazon.
Many people asked why he just did not take the time to write his own book as writers have historically done. :p
We have all seen this, and we all generally know what is going on here.
In the old days of the Warrior Forum, people who had relationships with others in the WF community were typically the only people submitting offers in the WSO sub-forum.
In the old days, with no real rules in place, 90% of new WSO offers were presented by people who were very active in the WF. And as a result, we often knew who we were buying products from, because we would either recognize the seller or we could learn about the vendor by looking at their track record on the forum.
These days, it is not uncommon to see 50% of offers being made by people who have never participated in the WF. There are tons of WSO vendors whose only contribution to the forum is the WSO they submitted and any answers they have given on those WSO threads.
I don't know about you, but I have bought a few products from these 0-post members, and I have pretty much decided against doing so in the future.
I don't have anything against people who are new to the WF, since those folks may actually teach something that I might find useful and valuable to me.
But given my experience of the last year, I believe the odds of a 0-post WF member having a good WSO is pretty darn slim.
My tendency now is to only buy from people I know in the WSO sub-forum.
Which brings me to the purpose of this thread.
Let me reiterate that this was not my idea, but it is one that I am presenting to you tonight, because a few people thought it was a really good idea.
The suggestion was made to split the WSO sub-forum into two sub-forums, with the following configuration:
- New WF members and 0-post Warriors would have a WSO section of their own;
- Experienced members with an accepted level of presence in the forum would also have their own WSO-section.
Now, I do realize that if a system such as this were to be set up, those who are quick to pull shenanigans would race to meet the new rules and get elevated to the WF active participant WSO forum, but most of the people chasing the fast buck won't do the work necessary to achieve any status here in the forum.
With some kind of measuring stick that could not be easily manipulated, the system could survive the new changes, with the intended effects.
Maybe the criteria for the Experienced Members WSO Section would be at least 6-months of participation in the forum, with an emphasis on participation, i.e. 20 posts per month for 6 months.
I know that any possible solution would perhaps discriminate against some very good people. For example, (View Profile: KamauAustin) has been a member of the WF for less than two months, but he has been marketing on the Internet as long as I have been or longer -- more than ten years. And he has a lot he could teach all of us.
If Kamau were making WSO's, he would be stuck in the kiddie room for another 4 months, before he could join the experienced and proven WSO vendors in the main WSO forum.
But that might be a small price to pay, to ensure that more WSO-buyers would not be taken advantage of by those who come to the WF, simply to take advantage of the newbies in the forum, for their own personal gain.
There is never a perfect solution for anything like this, but consider it as food for thought.
What do you folks think?
Is it really that much of a problem?
And keeping in mind that any solution created must be easy to enforce and easy to program, what ideas would you have that could allow the owner and the mods of this forum to be able to quickly separate the wheat from the chaff in the WSO-section?