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A few days ago my paypal got limited, I don't have clue why!

I sell solo ads, receive affiliate commissions, and have a verified account with lifted limits. Paypal know exactly what sort of business I do, and what type of income I have got. I do legit business and never had a dispute or chargeback.

I rang them do appeal against the limitation, and they said the decision is final.

When I asked them why, they just due to security problems, they no longer want to do business with me.

I mean WTF!
They don't even be straight up with me!

Now basically I'm screwed, I cannot receive any commissions through paypal, and worst of all I cannot even promote a WSO, because I won't be able to have the money..


Is there any way I can receive WSO commissions without a paypal?

And what about other commissions?

Kashi
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  • Profile picture of the author Frank Ayres
    what sort of PayPal account did you have personal or business?

    Were you earning much? did you have a sudden influx of sales?
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  • Profile picture of the author Brendon Zahrndt
    Start taking credit cards.

    Square Up

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  • Profile picture of the author Kashi456
    Hey Frank, I has a business verified account with lifted limits and I my self had told Paypal I was going to receive about 4-5 figures per month

    Just last week I averaged 3 Figures per pay. However, I sold both of my websites on Flippa for £1000 each, where I received £2000 in total..

    Can this be the reason why?
    They did ask me about it and I explained it to them in detail where it came from.

    Kashi
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    • Profile picture of the author SearchingLost
      Originally Posted by Kashi456 View Post

      Hey Frank, I has a business verified account with lifted limits and I my self had told Paypal I was going to receive about 4-5 figures per month

      Just last week I averaged 3 Figures per pay. However, I sold both of my websites on Flippa for £1000 each, where I received £2000 in total..

      Can this be the reason why?
      They did ask me about it and I explained it to them in detail where it came from.

      Kashi
      Could be. PayPal is very strict about limits. Weird though, because you had lifted limits. I would call back and ask to speak with a supervisor and ask about why they limited your account, try and keep your cool (This is the part I always mess up). Good Luck!
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      • Profile picture of the author Kashi456
        I am going to ring them again.

        I rang them last time and they all said the same thing: "We cannot do business with you anymore"
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        • Profile picture of the author kbailey1734
          Give them a call, ask for a supervisor, stay calm, explain the ENTIRE situation. Ask for an honest reason why they have done this to your account.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gdetonator
    Did you call them or you just emailed? In my experience, calling them is always more effective and under law... Paypal can't hold your money for more than 180 days so after that, you can be to withdraw the money but I sure as hell know that I can't wait that long.

    So, I say you call them and tell them to point out exactly what your accout did wrong if you are sure you didn't do a thing wrong then you guys can move from there.
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  • Why does it seem like everyone has a problem with Paypal? I'm taking in BIG money per month and they never give me a problem.

    I have never had PP give me any problems and I hope it stays that way for a long time...
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  • Profile picture of the author pbdollars
    One option is to create another account and link to a different bank account and credit card.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kashi456
    This what they said when I called them about a few minutes ago:

    "My account has too many risk" I asked them what sort of risks?

    They answer "We cannot discuss futher info"

    I asked for a manager or supervisor, and they said "They cannot take calls from customers"

    They ended the call with "You will have to chose an alternative to Paypal as we no longer wish to serve you"

    Kashi
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    • Profile picture of the author SearchingLost
      Originally Posted by Kashi456 View Post

      This what they said when I called them about a few minutes ago:

      "My account has too many risk" I asked them what sort of risks?

      They answer "We cannot discuss futher info"

      I asked for a manager or supervisor, and they said "They cannot take calls from customers"

      They ended the call with "You will have to chose an alternative to Paypal as we no longer wish to serve you"

      Kashi
      They think you are scamming for some reason but they have it all wrong as you are doing legitimate business. You will probably now have to create a new account. Will be difficult though.
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      • Profile picture of the author Kashi456
        Originally Posted by SearchingLost View Post

        They think you are scamming for some reason but they have it all wrong as you are doing legitimate business. You will probably now have to create a new account. Will be difficult though.
        They are just being stupid!
        In EVERY transaction, I get people to leave a note to what it is for so I can recognize them, and for some reason, they still don't understand.
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  • Profile picture of the author Liam Swift
    Originally Posted by Kashi456 View Post

    A few days ago my paypal got limited, I don't have clue why!

    I sell solo ads, receive affiliate commissions, and have a verified account with lifted limits. Paypal know exactly what sort of business I do, and what type of income I have got. I do legit business and never had a dispute or chargeback.

    I rang them do appeal against the limitation, and they said the decision is final.

    When I asked them why, they just due to security problems, they no longer want to do business with me.

    I mean WTF!
    They don't even be straight up with me!

    Now basically I'm screwed, I cannot receive any commissions through paypal, and worst of all I cannot even promote a WSO, because I won't be able to have the money..


    Is there any way I can receive WSO commissions without a paypal?

    And what about other commissions?

    Kashi
    Hey Kashi,

    Sorry to hear about your bad luck with Paypal, unfortunately this seems to be happening to alot of internet marketers these days.

    As far as I know there really isn't much you can do to stop the random seizure of your Paypal funds other than to use a different payment processor (I use Alertpay for example).

    Best of luck in the future,

    Liam
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  • Profile picture of the author littledan
    I have heard before of people being temporaily shut down by PayPal when they have something like a launch and they either take in a large amount of cash in one go, or have a lot of transactions in a short period of time. I have not heard them say we can no longer do business with anyone once the issue has been satisfied though, scary.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kashi456
      Originally Posted by littledan View Post

      I have heard before of people being temporaily shut down by PayPal when they have something like a launch and they either take in a large amount of cash in one go, or have a lot of transactions in a short period of time. I have not heard them say we can no longer do business with anyone once the issue has been satisfied though, scary.
      I know, I've never heard that before but thats what they said to me.

      Originally Posted by Liam Swift View Post

      Hey Kashi,

      Sorry to hear about your bad luck with Paypal, unfortunately this seems to be happening to alot of internet marketers these days.

      As far as I know there really isn't much you can do to stop the random seizure of your Paypal funds other than to use a different payment processor (I use Alertpay for example).

      Best of luck in the future,

      Liam
      Hey Liam, Thanks, I have got an alert pay which I'm using, I have no problem using that, but How am I meant to promote WSO's, JV events, etc?
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  • Profile picture of the author Gdetonator
    Darnit... I think somebody is screwing you over at Paypal. If you have huge 5 figures or 6 then you better push it hard, I really don't understand this part. Paypal saying that superiors don't talk to customers when there is cash at stake... I haven't seen that before
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  • Profile picture of the author Melanie Crouse
    Have you sought legal advice? I would suggest you get your lawyer to contact them on your behalf. He/she may be able to get some further information for you, or at least advise you of your options.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kashi456
      Originally Posted by Gdetonator View Post

      Darnit... I think somebody is screwing you over at Paypal. If you have huge 5 figures or 6 then you better push it hard, I really don't understand this part. Paypal saying that superiors don't talk to customers when there is cash at stake... I haven't seen that before
      I'm making 4-5 figures per month. I managed to get it to my bank before I got limited.
      They said I cannot speak to a superior.

      Originally Posted by Melanie Crouse View Post

      Have you sought legal advice? I would suggest you get your lawyer to contact them on your behalf. He/she may be able to get some further information for you, or at least advise you of your options.
      I'm going to look in to that.
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      • Profile picture of the author Gdetonator
        Originally Posted by Kashi456 View Post

        I'm making 4-5 figures per month. I managed to get it to my bank before I got limited.
        They said I cannot speak to a superior.



        I'm going to look in to that.
        Awesome, I think you are on the same level field, I thought they were holding on the playing cards. Now, you have your money in your hands, you can even dump the account and create another one with a seperate bank account and credit card instead, I'm sure the representative you were speaking with was just pissed that you escaped their money seizure trap... haha

        Ok, on a more serious note. Still try to get back your account even if you will close it later but if using legal power will cost you much then dump it since your cash is no longer stuck there.

        Cheers
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      • Profile picture of the author Dan C. Rinnert
        Originally Posted by Kashi456 View Post

        I'm making 4-5 figures per month. I managed to get it to my bank before I got limited.
        How often did you withdraw money from your PayPal account to your bank account?
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        • Profile picture of the author Kashi456
          Hey.. I used to withdraw every two days.

          I'm with alert pay now, going to try them out,

          Kashi
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          • Profile picture of the author Dan C. Rinnert
            Originally Posted by Kashi456 View Post

            Hey.. I used to withdraw every two days.
            And did you withdraw everything every two days?
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            • Profile picture of the author Vanessa Reece
              Kashi,

              I have just had a mark put on my account from PayPal. I don't have as much money going in as you, nor do I withdraw every two days. It's generally every month, but I do not withdraw it all either.

              What they wanted from me was my ID and a copy of a utility bill. I have no restrictions on my account other than not being able to close it.

              They stated that they need to comply with EU money laundering regulations, and the reason why they have put a temp mark on my account was simply because I am near the threshold for what is considered their norm of business; and they need to verify that I'm not doing anything that goes against EU regulations. Basically they are collecting my information to cover their behinds. I'm guessing it's a lot like collecting TAX I.D's for US affiliates.

              I'm still able to pay for things and even withdraw, although I must point out I haven't even tried to withdraw any since they marked my card.

              The correspondence was very friendly and I'm not concerned about it at this point. However, I will be opening new pay channels this week to be on the safe side.

              I just wondered if they had presented you with the option to declare your information to prove your status as a business owner and place of residence?

              I've dealt with Paypal both via email and on the phone, and I've always found them to be a lot more personable on the phone. That is just my own personal experience.

              In regards to you selling websites, I would probably suggest you go with escrow next time or similar. Less headache it seems with them than PP, when receiving large amounts.

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              • Profile picture of the author Vanessa Reece
                Robert, very fair point.

                However, one thing I will say is, we all know banks don't close your account just because you're down to your last tuppence. PayPal in the UK is supposed to be governed by our banking laws. Are they not?

                Also, could it be that PayPal has built a rod for their own backs by getting a rep of blocking accounts and keeping money. So the natural instinct is to just grab the money out of the account so they can't keep anything. Catch 22.

                I'm not saying it's right to do that, I'm saying that could be a reason.

                One thing is clear to me, reading all the threads, PayPal is not IM friendly anymore, and since they don't want to make it as easy as some other pay portals do, I think it's safe to say that PayPal will not give two hoots how many IM based businesses they drop. If the goods are not tangible then they seem to have an issue...at some point.

                It would be really nice if they would just write out a new terms and conditions for non tangible goods so we can all comply, or not, as they case may be.

                Cheers,

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          • Profile picture of the author Robert Puddy
            Originally Posted by Kashi456 View Post

            Hey.. I used to withdraw every two days.

            I'm with alert pay now, going to try them out,

            Kashi
            theres your reason why, red flag for money laundering. they want to see money in there to deal with charge backs and refunds. withdrawing every 2 days tells them your a risk they dont want to take

            Real business dont withdraw every couple of days, we transfer money to our bank once a month at the same time and always leave a balance in there to cover expenses and refunds. And thats how a responsible real busines operates
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            • Profile picture of the author JDArchitecture
              Originally Posted by Robert Puddy View Post

              theres your reason why, red flag for money laundering. they want to see money in there to deal with charge backs and refunds. withdrawing every 2 days tells them your a risk they dont want to take

              Real business dont withdraw every couple of days, we transfer money to our bank once a month at the same time and always leave a balance in there to cover expenses and refunds. And thats how a responsible real busines operates
              I withdraw roughly 10% of monthly income at least a couple of time a week but my available balance is never less than 10%. This is in addition to my 30%/90-day rolling reserve.

              I've been doing this all year with no problem.
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            • Profile picture of the author NickBuzz
              Originally Posted by Robert Puddy View Post

              theres your reason why, red flag for money laundering. they want to see money in there to deal with charge backs and refunds. withdrawing every 2 days tells them your a risk they dont want to take

              Real business dont withdraw every couple of days, we transfer money to our bank once a month at the same time and always leave a balance in there to cover expenses and refunds. And thats how a responsible real busines operates
              I aggree with Robert. The SoloAds could also be a part of the reason. Get your mom to open a PP account and keep it legit!
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              • Profile picture of the author Chris Sorrell
                Paypal are licensed in the UK as a financial institution, ie a bank - as far as I'm aware, a bank is not going to close your account because you make withdrawals otherwise I don't think it would have too many customers left....

                They brake the financial laws of countries all over the world every single day and they're still in business, and still doing very well indeed. Must be that billion dollars of 'frozen' money they're earning interest on.
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      Originally Posted by Melanie Crouse View Post

      Have you sought legal advice? I would suggest you get your lawyer to contact them on your behalf. He/she may be able to get some further information for you, or at least advise you of your options.
      I think this is pretty much the best option you have right now...
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  • Profile picture of the author Kashi456
    Thanks everyone for your help and concerns.

    I feel a lot better now, I will still try to get it back.
    If not, then there are a lot of alternatives.



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    • Profile picture of the author Gdetonator
      Originally Posted by Kashi456 View Post

      Thanks everyone for your help and concerns.

      I feel a lot better now, I will still try to get it back.
      If not, then there are a lot of alternatives.



      Kashi
      Kashi, great to know you are feeling better now. I will like to know how it goes when you are done. Take care
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    Lots of good advice for alternate solutions:
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  • Profile picture of the author davejug1
    Welcome to the wonderful world of Paypal where Brand loyalty mean nothing.

    I had a seven figure sum locked for no reason, small claims court couldn't help me as the sum was too large, dragged them to real court and took interest and expenses off them. They unlock it after a while but don't let that stop you screwing them over.
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    can you sign up for a new account instead and see what happens...
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  • Profile picture of the author JeanneLynn
    It really scares me when I hear a story like this. Don't people have any recourse if they have been wrongly limited?
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    • Profile picture of the author Gdetonator
      Originally Posted by JeanneLynn View Post

      It really scares me when I hear a story like this. Don't people have any recourse if they have been wrongly limited?
      I think when they limit your account, they hold all the playing cards so you just watch them play around and hope to get lucky
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  • Profile picture of the author grandstar
    Were you rude to them? This can happen when one is upset. The wrong word and....
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Jordan
    Sorry to hear about that. Hope this is only a temporary shutdown. I heard the service and fees of Alertpay is better. It's good to know that there are alternatives to paypal- competition brings a lot of benefits for us.
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  • Profile picture of the author fred67
    It seems that these big conglomerates are nothing more than bullies (Just because they can).
    Google for example got me to spend a whole day reconfiguring one of my sites to conform to their 'adsense' terms and conditions. (back and forth E-mails) At the end of the day I got the all-clear.
    The next day I got another E-mail from them contradicting the confirmation E-mail and they permanently shut down my account.

    I never knowingly do anything unethical so it comes as a kick in the teeth when you're blatantly accused of trying to scam the system, as is the inference in this post.

    Ebay also threatened me with closure when I tried to promote a product which I'd paid good money for the resell rights to. (A package of websites that included auction sites as allowable sales platform) Yet on closer inspection, I found other vendors selling the same product and had been for a while (and continue to do so)

    It seems like the luck of draw really, a bit like the tax-man and even energy companies. If you're number gets called, you're in for a hard time.

    Paypal is too big for it's boots and the luck of the draw is - do you get a reasonable office-drone to deal with your case or a beligerant jobs-worth??
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  • Profile picture of the author Aviator Joe
    Damn, i know paypal's customer support is awful but this is just ridiculous
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  • Profile picture of the author harrietfredge
    Another PayPal issue again, I'm already fed up with PayPal's inconsistencies on their rules and regulations. Well, if they no longer wish to serve you then better find another one. This might be upsetting but if you tried legal actions and yet you got nothing then just forget about them.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris@AlertPay
    Originally Posted by Kashi456 View Post

    A few days ago my paypal got limited, I don't have clue why!
    I sell solo ads, receive affiliate commissions, and have a verified account with lifted limits. Paypal know exactly what sort of business I do, and what type of income I have got. I do legit business and never had a dispute or chargeback.
    I rang them do appeal against the limitation, and they said the decision is final.
    When I asked them why, they just due to security problems, they no longer want to do business with me.
    I mean WTF!
    They don't even be straight up with me
    Now basically I'm screwed, I cannot receive any commissions through paypal, and worst of all I cannot even promote a WSO, because I won't be able to have the money..
    Is there any way I can receive WSO commissions without a paypal?
    And what about other commissions?
    Kashi
    It's always a good idea to have a back-up processor, or to be using several processors for situations exactly like this.

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    • Profile picture of the author Gdetonator
      Originally Posted by Chris@AlertPay View Post

      It's always a good idea to have a back-up processor, or to be using several processors for situations exactly like this.

      ChriZ
      Chris, you mean it's always good to have an alertpay account in case paypal messes you up or am I missing something here?
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  • Profile picture of the author ShawnSells
    Despite some here that think Paypal is fair, I think for the internet marketer, Paypal is a disappearing option. I get mostly checks from clients, (offline) but it would concern me if I had to use Paypal. Any wrong step, and you're in jeopardy.
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