How successful are WF WSOs?

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I have an incredibly successful project that I would like to publish on Warrior Forum in the form of a WSO, but I wondered if it's worth the time to create and publish such a WSO.

I learn from other people's experiences as well as my own - so I have a few questions directed at those who have already published and sold WSOs under Warrior Special Offers Forum:

1. What kind of sales (purchases & rough gross) have you seen on successful products? How about your not so successful products?

2. I know the most preferred medium is PDF, but should I also create other mediums of the same content? (mp3,video walkthroughs, etc)

3. What would you do to promote your first WSO on WF and beyond?

4. Aside from the theory and practical usage of a concept, what else should I include in the WSO?

5. Was it worth it?

I just like to have a cost/benefit balance in mind when doing anything in IM. Thanks for your help!
#main internet marketing discussion forum #successful #wso #wsos
  • People make thousands on the WF. I have a buddy who made $15,000 on here from one WSO so I think the $40 investment is definitely worth it. Though I have not made a WSO, I plan to at some point because I think it has a huge profit potential. Hope that helped! PM me if you have any more questions!
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    • I have not made any WSOs yet, but judging from the look of things and what I look for (if and) when I buy, here are my answers. I hope it helps you.



      1. Number of purchases and gross profit depends on the WSO - the niche, the salesletter, the offer, etc. Seeing how many WSOs there are on putting out WSOs, it pays to do it.



      Very many (almost most) come with videos. Some come only in video format. Personally, I like to work with PDFs and some video, but I don't like only video. Walkthroughs and step-by-steps are very popular and usually sell well.




      Whatever you can that will help the buyer implement the WSO. Screenshots and a video walk-through add a lot of value. If you don't want to elaborate on a certain topic in your WSO, you can include a link with more info on that topic for the people who want more info.



      As mentioned above, from the look of things it looks like it does. Very many people who do one WSO, do another one.

      As a purchaser of quite a lot of WSOs (most crappy, some very good ones) let me tell you - Please don't add to the crappy ones. Once I buy a WSO that's not good, I don't buy another one from that seller. I don't consider a WSO 'not good' if it doesn't fit what I want to do. I call it 'not good' if it doesn't fulfill it's promises.

      Also, in the sales letter you can use some hype, but don't make blatant income claims and don't be dishonest.

      Hope these help.
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    • Did you ask his net income?

      - Affiliate expenses (sometimes people put to 100%)
      - WSO cost (40 bucks)
      - Cost of bumps (40 bucks for every bump)
      - WSO Pro cost (19 bucks)

      Again, did you ask his net income?
  • Most are flaky at best, however yes the good ones can make a lot of money.
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    • It did =] The $40 is the investment for posting on the Special Offers board right? I am also curious as to what WSO your buddy created. I'd probably buy it, if I haven't already XD

      I know exactly what you mean. The great thing about the Warrior Forum offers is that I usually don't throw much more than $5-10 for a nugget or two. I've learned a lot from reading a number of these WSOs -- some being completely worthless either from poor quality, unformed theory, or just plain redundancy XD
  • Hey,

    Some WSO's are very successful and others not so much.

    There is nothing different to WSO's apart from them being launched to a targeted marketing crowd as oppose to an Amazon affiliate site or Clickbank site.

    You might as well ask:

    "Does Clickbank make money?"

    "Do Amazon Affiliates make money?"

    I will try and answer your questions though:

    Not sure what you expect in answer to this? Not really keen on telling you my earnings lol.

    However some make thousands and others have made a lot less.

    There is no preferred medium - some people prefer to read others to watch and others to listen. My advice is to offer all 3 - more is always better.

    As long as you feel your WSO will offer value you should launch it and that is the only real way of learning. If it does well you can think about marketing it beyond the WF.

    Anything else that you feel would be of value = case studies, proof and support to name a few.

    Yes.

    I hope this helps?

    All the best,

    Chris Jones
  • We're currently bring in close to $5k a day now from our WSO's. In fact we generated over $500k in the last 8 months alone. It is entirely possible to make huge profits if you're above board and take care of your clients even when it hurts.

    Just be careful to not rush into the fray until you're ready to rock.
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  • There's really no set answer to your question. You could be like Matt above, or you could LOSE money. Many people do. Myself, I'm in the middle.

    The key is to just test, test, test. And if you are just starting out, don't expect to pull a profit maybe even the first 2, 3, 4 times you run the WSO (of course you CAN, just don't plan for it), because you've got to build up the thread, get reviews, etc... and then once others see what you are offering is legit, they'll buy in.

    And ALWAYS have a back end system of some kind setup, get your customers to join your newsletter through aweber, or something similar.

    I'd like to add that newbies who come into the forum and think they can just slap something together, post it as a WSO and then make a killing are SADLY mistaken. Those days are O-V-E-R.
    Today the WSO forum moves so fast, that you have to have everything in place and finely tuned (sales page, price, offer, back end, etc...) if you want to make good $$$ from it.
  • What we did when we started out 15 months ago with our first WSO was simple. We charged 1/10 what our competitors were charging. We kept the pricing open until we had our first 100 testimonials. Then we eased the price up until we gathered our next 100. Until it eventually led to the pricing we have today.

    It's okay to work for free if you're helping Warriors and gathering testimonials.

    In fact I think it is the only way to go about succeeding in a marketplace as competive as the WSO section is.
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    • Amazing! Nice work Matt.

      Just goes to show that if you put in a decent effort to provide real value and provide high quality at amazing prices it's got to be a winning formula.
    • Listen to the Boss!!! This is one of the great tips...in this forum, your "backlinks" are those testimonials..

      good luck...
  • Do people make money on WSOs? Sure and some even make thousands but take one look at Warrior+ and you'll see that there are many WSOs that don't even sell 10 copies. Given the price of the initial listing, bumps, and affiliate fees it's quite likely those WSOs actually lost money. Most people are somewhere in the middle-- they're not making $10,000 but they do make some cash. I feel like everyone goes into making WSOs thinking they're going to make gobs and gobs of cash and that's just not the case.

    Go in thinking it's a great way to get your feet wet with product creation and then no matter what happens, you'll feel like you had a valuable experience.
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    Some make thousands and some never really fly. It all depends on the product and the demand for the product. Sadly, in some cases it all depends on how good at hype you are ... chasing after the sales from dreamers who want a fast buck with no work involved... but not all ...

    I buy a fair amount of WSOs but I never buy them from the WSO forum. I buy from people I recognize and trust and normally hit their signatures when they have something that I need more knowledge on or something that can benefit my business.
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    • Crappy wso's die fast.

      Good wso's survive.

      And sometimes good wso's don't get traction, because the sales copy did not generate enough interest in the product.
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  • The OP question is kind of like, how long is a piece of string. Some is longer than others. It depends on the product how successful it will be. And to a large part, the sales letter.

    It seems to me that if you plan to show people how you made XXXX in a reasonably short time, and used PDF and video to deliver the product, you stand a very good chance of making good money, if your sales letter is done well.

    Relaying the process that you took to profit XXXX is typically something that people want to know about.
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  • I started promoting WSOs to make a nice income.
    Then launched my own WSOs. 5 figure was a pretty easy to make.


    Anwesh Rath
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    • My last promotion did about 2K in 2 days and I didn't even release it as a WSO.

      Regardless of whether you launch a WSO or a regular product to the public,
      your success is going to depend on several things.

      1. How in demand your product is.
      2. How good your headline and sales copy are.
      3. The discount that forum members get.

      I would say that's the order of importance.

      Without those 3 things, WSO or not, you have little chance of success.

      In other words, give the membership what they want, put it in words that
      compels them and offer it at a price that makes the purchase a no brainer.

      Do that and you have a winner.
  • My first and only WSO has done very well.

    I link to it, external from WF, from articles of mine.
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    Speaking of WSO creation and putting it up for sale, has anyone here ever made and sold a WSO that had nothing to do with making money online (some kind of digital product outside of the internet marketing niche that is)
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    • Most products tie into IM somehow, but they aren't all super-secret-ninja tactics.

      There's software, WP plugins, themes, self development stuff, PLR, etc.
  • Pay for WSO PRO, all the numbers are there. Study the winners and adapt the techniques to your product.....
  • AS others have already said, the WSO forum is just like any other digital marketplace. The good products will sell and thrive and the crap products will not. How much money you make is totally up to you.

    I would concentrate less on how much money you are going to make and more on how much you can help fellow Warriors through your WSO. When I see these types of questions from Warriors it's usually a sign they are only here for one thing - to milk the forum members of money.

    It's the wrong mindset to have.
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    • You get two thumbs up for that one Wil!!
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  • Never underestimate the importance of pricing when it comes to the success of your WSO. Sometimes great products don't sell because they miss the sweet spot when it comes to pricing. I learned that the hard way !!
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  • I see products that I assume did well as wso's and it turns out they sold poorly. I know one warrior who has done three wso's and each sold only 10 copies. For every big $10K success (due usually to getting wso of the day), there are probably 50 that make only little bit more than the launch cost.
  • The WSO section has ballooned through the past few years. There's much more competition now and ads stay on the front page for only hours, not days like it used to be. However, I think a lot of people would prefer to buy products here from community members rather than somewhere like Clickbank.

    CB is making a lot of changes now, but they let things get so bad there that the reputation of their Marketplace deteriorated (in the IM niches) tremendously. I've got a pretty good feeling people feel much more comfortable buying products related to IM here than on CB.

    I agree with what WillR said above, though. People who come here only to get, get, get... well, that's not the community mindset I'd want everyone to have. My mantra has always been to see how much you can give and the "getting" will come naturally. I could be wrong on that but it's served me well. --Mike
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  • Most te decent WSOs make a lot of money. The traffic is there you just have to present something remotely valuable and people tend to buy it. Even if it work or not.
  • $8k in a week at best, $60 in four months at worst.

    The preferred medium is actually MP4 video. PDF is the most common medium. This is a frequent mistake, like thinking Anchorage is the capital of Alaska.

    Pre-launch.

    When your product is done and ready to go out the door for sale, STOP for a week - talk to your friends, arrange JVs and mailings, set up an affiliate tools page, send out some review copies, get people excited for it.

    Then when you actually launch, your affiliate army (which may only be a small team of guerillas) will blitz the market with your offer and make you a buttload of sales in no time at all.

    Heat the iron before you strike.

    People like stupid frou-frou crap for some reason. I don't see the point, but they just love to have diagrams and charts and checklists in separate PDFs. They also love Excel worksheets. I don't get it, but they like this stuff.

    I would never charge extra because I put it in, but it's like a five minute job to throw a couple of the illustrations in a few extra PDFs and call them "quick reference," and people will jump up and down clapping their hands over it.

    Everything is worth it. The question is whether you made use of what you got from it.
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    • MAN... you just gave away the content that you could have released as a WSO :p

      {hint hint:} any useful information can ( and would) sell as a WSO if marketed properly within and outside WF)

      CD has pointed out HOW !

      (This RE-answers the fourth question about what you can sell on WF ... )

      God Bless
      Anwesh Rath
    • Golden advice. Thanks!
  • Great post from CDarklock above there!


    Nothing to add after that, other than read it again! Certainly answers your questions!
  • I made three grand in my first three days on the Warrior Forum thanks to my WSO that I dropped First product ever! I'd highly recommend releasing WSOs. There's a huge hungry audience here that's looking for them, so don't starve em! Give em what they wantttttt
  • Oh by the way, always do an upsell! That is the key to making more $$ with it.
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    • The key to making money is having a good product not having an upsell. That's just the lazy mans way of doing it.

      Nah, I don't agree. Sales copy can only do so much. If a product is crap then enough people are going to post about it in the WSO thread and it will die a natural death. The problem is, and I've seen this happen over and over, no matter how many negative comments are posted there are always people who come along and ignore them and purchase. There's just no helping some people.
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    How successful are WF WSOs?

    I have an incredibly successful project that I would like to publish on Warrior Forum in the form of a WSO, but I wondered if it's worth the time to create and publish such a WSO. I learn from other people's experiences as well as my own - so I have a few questions directed at those who have already published and sold WSOs under Warrior Special Offers Forum: