Should i buy an E-mail list????

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Hi All,
i am in the very begining of my IM careir and i am realy trying to build my list... it is not easy.... when you not sure what you're doing LOL
i am learning though!!! my question is:
Is it recommanded to buy a staryt list or not?
i red many reviews and mostly not recommanded! many people say that majority of the emails are JUNK, or even NOT ACTIVE???
Is it a good idea to BUY a start list???

Thank you
Have success
Rom
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  • Profile picture of the author uebomoyi
    I would highly recommend you stay away from that for right now. I learned that most lists consist of people who are freebie seekers. And if you can provide any free information to them that is valuable, then they will not pay attention to you. Building your list manually by creating relationships with people is the best way to go in my opinion. People like to buy products and services from people who they know and trust.
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  • Profile picture of the author Green Diamond
    1-No, there are a lots of scam companies are selling email list on the internet.
    2-No, list may not be opt-in which get you in trouble.
    3-Yes, if you buy it from someone who you may know.
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  • Profile picture of the author pilotalexander
    I am going with no on this subject. You want to build your list with people who you know are interested in your particular niche. If you just spam a bunch of random email addresses you will not know who is interested and who isn't.

    Bottom line is you should build a squeeze page, generate traffic to it, and build your list that way.

    Hope that helps.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chad Markus
    I have an adult webmaster list for sale if interested
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  • Profile picture of the author lowkey786
    don't buy lists its not good. The better way to build your list is to drive traffic to your squeeze pages and do adswaps.
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  • Profile picture of the author WillR
    No. A productive list will be one where YOU build a relationship with them right from the start - you don't want to come in half way and take over someone else's list. Besides, there is usually a pretty good reason why someone is selling an email list.
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  • Profile picture of the author JasonParker
    Not a good idea.

    Quit looking for shortcuts and just build a business.

    You'll be glad you did it the right way!
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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      Instead of wasting your money on buying a list, consider buying solo ads. See Classified Ads or the JV Forum.
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  • Profile picture of the author rrm
    Originally Posted by romsilvas View Post

    my question is:
    Is it recommanded to buy a staryt list or not?
    Yes, you absolutely should buy a list. IF you want to screw up your business right off the bat.

    Otherwise, listen to all those recommendations you referred to in your original post. If you need more people to say "no" before you decide it's not a good idea, stick around.

    Ron
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    • Profile picture of the author romsilvas
      Hi all,
      Thank you guy for all the responds, i am definitely not looking for shortcuts, just trying to do it right that settles it then!!
      I AM NOT BUYING A LIST!!!!

      thanks guys

      Rom
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      • Profile picture of the author Suellen Reitz
        Originally Posted by romsilvas View Post

        Hi all,
        Thank you guy for all the responds, i am definitely not looking for shortcuts, just trying to do it right that settles it then!!
        I AM NOT BUYING A LIST!!!!

        thanks guys

        Rom
        Great Rom... at least you learn fast! Your best bet is to drive traffic to your squeeze page with a great give away. Do that by writing articles supporting your product and have a link in your signature line going to the squeeze page. Make sure you mention in your sig line the give away. They have to have a reason to click there! Also make sure your give away is good. It is representative of what your product will be. If it's junk... people will make that mental connection with your product you wish to sell.

        Once you have that list... continue to give more value. Build the relationship before you ask for the sale.
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  • Profile picture of the author DIABL0
    I would only buy a list that contains a min of IP, date/time of sign up and the site that the recipient signed up at and pref contains the link to the privacy policy. The privacy policy needs to state that their info may be sold/they will receive third party messages. Then you are covered legally...it's not some scraped list and your not spamming the recipients.

    This is not to say you won't get spam complaints. So at this point you really need to have the list scrubbed by a qualified company to remove any known complainers. This still won't guarantee no complaints, but will greatly lessen the possibility.

    Then you want to set up with a mail friendly service that will provide server/IPs and won't shut you down for getting some complaints.

    At this point you want to set up reverse dns and sign up for any and all Feed Back Loops that you can get. A feed back loop sends you a copy of the message a receives when they click the Spam button. That way you can remove them from the list.

    Then you want to make sure all the mail you are sending is can-spam compliant. So you need to set that up.

    I wouldn't just buy a list. I would first buy a random sample of the list and test it to make sure that it's going to be profitable in the long run to send. Because if your thinking about buying, so are others and others probably already have. So this means your response rate will be lower and your unsubscribe rate will be higher than what you think it will be. So you need to know what you are doing to make the purchase profitable. Because it's no longer about marketing to the list what you are interested in selling them...your niche(s), it's about marketing what they are interested in/what will turn the highest profit.

    Anyway, that's the "short of the long" of buying lists. It's not just buy a list and send it. Majority of people that do that typically walk away saying I'll never do that again because they lost money, got complaints and their service turned off, etc... But it can be extremely profitable if you know what you are doing.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jeanne Lovely
    When I first started I too thought that buying someones list would be a great idea. I did not know that spamming was part of that deal.

    Create a good product and affiliates will sell it for oyu and you will get a great list of your own
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  • Profile picture of the author wackiin
    been there done that lmao you may get some gold but chances are your going to get slammed with complaints
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  • Profile picture of the author Jahshaka
    Time and patience is all you'll need to build a quality responsive list,put in the hard yards now and reap rewards for as long as you have a good relationship with your list.Buying a list may seem like an easy way to go,but easy come easy go.
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  • Profile picture of the author taniharjo
    don't buy email list. You never know the quality of the email list
    Instead I suggest buy media buy and bring them to your optin page
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  • Profile picture of the author BlisteringROI
    For what your most likely doing it will not work. Start as everyone here is suggesting. You need to learn mailing first. You can buy lists in bulk, but you need to know how to clean it, segment, then drive the traffic through funnels. Also delivery rates will suffer if you do not understand how to get by ISP's from a dedicated. Stick with Aweber and an organic list for now. Good luck.
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  • Profile picture of the author ICCGAMES
    no it's really a bad idea. I hear a lot of people say Email Marketing is not a good way for the stuff like CPA
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    • Profile picture of the author BlisteringROI
      Originally Posted by ICCGAMES View Post

      no it's really a bad idea. I hear a lot of people say Email Marketing is not a good way for the stuff like CPA
      Come Again?
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    • Profile picture of the author DIABL0
      Originally Posted by ICCGAMES View Post

      no it's really a bad idea. I hear a lot of people say Email Marketing is not a good way for the stuff like CPA
      Email marketing is one of the best ways of promoting CPA offers. CPA networks love email marketers! I can say that with 11+ years experience doing nothing but email marketing promoting CPA/CPM offers.

      The reason you probably heard that is someone with no experience doing it was told that and then the rumor of such spread and then everyone thinks it's true. Just like buying lists is bad. Which is so far from the truth if you know what you are doing.
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  • Profile picture of the author RokDot
    Do not buy an email list. You want people to Opt In to your emailing list.
    Because if you buy an emailing list & send out offers, most likely those emails will go straight to spam or junk. Which is not effective at all & there is the possibility of fake email addresses & being scammed for an email list.

    Great ways to build an emailing list is too create offers & have an opt in option available. That way you have valued email address, people who actually want to see what you have to offer privately before it hits WSO.

    Just my opinion on the matter.
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  • Profile picture of the author mikemcmillan
    Even if you buy a list (bad idea to begin with), what are your going to do with it? Aweber won't let you import the names into their service (same with many other quality auto-responders) without a detailed audit trail (double opt-in), the form the opted in from, the date they opted in, etc.

    If you use your own email client, your deliverability of emails will be much lower, maybe very, very much lower than if you send emails through a quality auto-responder service.

    Just grow your own and give your subscribers some value in what you deliver. --Mike
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    • Profile picture of the author RokDot
      Originally Posted by mikemcmillan View Post

      Even if you buy a list (bad idea to begin with), what are your going to do with it? Aweber won't let you import the names into their service (same with many other quality auto-responders) without a detailed audit trail (double opt-in), the form the opted in from, the date they opted in, etc.

      If you use your own email client, your deliverability of emails will be much lower, maybe very, very much lower than if you send emails through a quality auto-responder service.

      Just grow your own and give your subscribers some value in what you deliver. --Mike
      I can't agree with you more mike.

      I recommend building your list from scratch. You want Quality over quantity.
      And as I said in my previous post, which mike has touched on as well, is with emailing lists the chances of your email getting to the person is next to obsolete.
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      • Profile picture of the author DIABL0
        Originally Posted by RokDot View Post

        I can't agree with you more mike.

        I recommend building your list from scratch. You want Quality over quantity.
        And as I said in my previous post, which mike has touched on as well, is with emailing lists the chances of your email getting to the person is next to obsolete.
        First I want to say that I'm not disagreeing with anyone that wants to build their own list, build rapport with the recipients, etc, etc... That is certainly the key way that people are taught to do email marketing and it can/does work and is the way that most people should do it because it will best fit the average internet business model.

        But I will dispute that quality VS quantity with high delivery will always beat quantity over quality with lower deliverability...dollars made. That is so far from the truth! It's simply just a different marketing method / business model.

        Now I will say that if you are just spamming people then yea, you could have horrible delivery and then all bets are off. But you just can't blatantly say that deliver will be obsolete because your using your own mail server instead of an autoresponder service. That again is so not true. But again, for most the best way is going to use a quality autoresponder service.

        Anyway, it just drives me nuts when someone says something and while it may be true for most, then everyone starts believing it's the only way. Which seems so ramped when it comes to list buying. Because you may be missing out on an alternative business model that makes a lot of money. Just something to think about.
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        • Profile picture of the author dorianjohn425
          Originally Posted by DIABL0 View Post

          First I want to say that I'm not disagreeing with anyone that wants to build their own list, build rapport with the recipients, etc, etc... That is certainly the key way that people are taught to do email marketing and it can/does work and is the way that most people should do it because it will best fit the average internet business model.

          But I will dispute that quality VS quantity with high delivery will always beat quantity over quality with lower deliverability...dollars made. That is so far from the truth! It's simply just a different marketing method / business model.

          Now I will say that if you are just spamming people then yea, you could have horrible delivery and then all bets are off. But you just can't blatantly say that deliver will be obsolete because your using your own mail server instead of an autoresponder service. That again is so not true. But again, for most the best way is going to use a quality autoresponder service.

          Anyway, it just drives me nuts when someone says something and while it may be true for most, then everyone starts believing it's the only way. Which seems so ramped when it comes to list buying. Because you may be missing out on an alternative business model that makes a lot of money. Just something to think about.
          I agree with you
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  • Profile picture of the author owenlee
    i would rather use the money on SEO...such a list seldom bring you sales..unless you are super lucky...
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  • Profile picture of the author chuckwells
    No I would not buy an email list. What are you going to do with it. You can not enter the email addresses to a reputable auto responder service. Emailing then from your own email address will get your account closed and most of the emails will not get past people's spam filters.

    I have received email lists as bonuses with IM products. Really they are pretty much worthless because there is no viable way to make any money with them without hurting your business.
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  • Profile picture of the author showmack
    The answer is 'No'. Build your own list. Those companies sell the same list to multiple buyers and this seems a spam sort of thing.
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  • Profile picture of the author KevinBolty
    Short: don't buy, create from start instead. Otherwise you will learn nothing.
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    • Profile picture of the author romsilvas
      Oh WOW I LOVE this forum,
      hey Guys thank you all for all the info, it is so helpful for me, i am a beginer and I subscribed with some site helping you start online, some are better then others one of them was trying to convince me to buy a list from an autoresponder that i was recommanded by the same program I Am Trying to keep an open mind and get all the help i can get and i just wanted to know what the pros thinking about it
      i am so greatful to you all
      Success
      Rom
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  • Profile picture of the author Mr Lim
    STOP!!

    One question from yourself, will you read the spam emails?

    If you think it still working, then it might be 0.01% it does.
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