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This is my first week, full time, in Internet Marketing (whoopee!)

Today, I just feel like giving something to the forum that, as I have said before, has been a kind of online home for me for the past six or so years. I have noticed a number of posts recently that ask questions like: is anybody really making money here? That kind of thing. The reason for these threads is that right at the beginning, making money on the internet does seem to be remarkably difficult.

Do any of these apply to you?

1. There's so much hype floating round you don't know who to believe
2. You are sick of buying stuff you just can't seem to make work
3. Been scammed a few times and don't trust anyone anymore

If so, this little thread was written just for you.

So first off, I want to show you that I know what I am talking about. Today I made a post on my blog that shows my results for the last five months, so I have no problems showing you either

Here is what I am currently earning:



Now, you may think that's not a lot of money, but do you know something? It was enough for me to decide it was time to pack in my well-paid day job and concentrate on this project.

There are people making way more than this here at the forum, but there are also people who just can't seem to get going at all. It reminds me of when I used to play squash: no matter how good I got, there always seemed to be a shed-load of people better, but there were also a shed-load of people who were worse

Let me say a few things about those stats. Firstly, the bulk of that income is completely passive. Yes I know that's difficult to believe when you are new to all this stuff, but it's nevertheless true. Second, if I actually make an offer to my list, which I do very infrequently, then I get a month like the one you can see in June.

At present, my focus is on increasing my Adsense revenue and you can see from the above graph that this is happening nicely. I get a very low conversion rate, but I have managed to build a high-traffic site (3 million hits per month at present) and when you manage to do that, you really can't fail to make money.

How Long Did it Take?

Well, I started White Dove Books in 2003. At first I was not serious about making money. I just wanted to create a useful site for people who attended my personal development workshops. I did what everyone does – put up affiliate banners – and after one whole year, somebody bought something and I earned my first commission. It was $29 and that sale changed my whole attitude. I realised that if I could earn money as easily as that, there would be no reason that I could not just scale it up and clearly, there would be, theoretically, no upper limit to what I might earn.

I remember speaking to my wife about my decision to focus on the site. I said that I would need to put in a lot of work and so I would need her to be behind me. I was going to work for 2 hours every morning before going to work, then I was going to do another 2 hours every evening and in addition to that, I was going to work every Saturday on the site. By the way, at the time, I had no idea how I was going to make it all work; I was just determined to do so.

My wife's response was to ask me how long I thought it would take and do you know what my answer was? I said I thought it might take about 1 year at that rate. Well, here we are 6 years later and I have now only just quit the day job. Why did it take so long? Because I didn't know what I was doing at first. I simply tried everything to see what worked and what didn't. I kept all the good stuff and chucked away the things that didn't work.

So that's why it took so long, trial and error is not the most efficient route from A to B. However, it got me where I am. If you want to know the things I actually tried, see this thread ...

http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...hout-plan.html

What Did I Do Well?

In a phrase – Viral Marketing!

When I started, I remember a guy called Yanik Silver. I was on his list and way, way back, he sent me an offer. It was essentially about viral marketing. At the time, I misunderstood the term, thought he was suggesting something fishy and ignored the offer – that bit was wrong!

However, I was inspired by fellow Brit, Harvey Segal. I just liked his style. He would often produce a great product and then just give it away. I realised that his free books were all over the internet and I thought there would be no reason that mine couldn't be all over the internet too. Today they are! And they bring me the following benefits:

1. Free traffic from links in the books
2. Free one-way links (when people publish the PDF)
3. Affiliates – they rebrand them and give them away

A second aspect of viral marketing is the good old Tell a Friend idea. I have it implemented all over my site and in my Newsletter. The way I do it is very simple and actually, I picked the tip up right here at the forum. As I recall, it was Dr Mani who posted the idea way back.

Just a quick aside. In case you don't know, Dr Mani is a successful Warrior and internet marketer who ploughs his profits into providing heart operations for underprivileged children. See here ...

Dr.Mani : About Dr.Mani - www.DrMani.com

What an absolutely wonderful mission.

He has problems, as I understand, with Paypal not allowing donations to his cause. He gets around this by selling information products and then using the profits to fund operations. The guy is an inspiration.

Anyway, the tip he posted was about using the 'mailto' facility. You create a hyperlink which, in turn, creates an email. You can control the subject and the text of that mail. So all a visitor has to do is click it, add their friend's email addie and bang!

Here is an excellent site (no affiliation) that allows you to create the link easily ...

Mailto URL Encoder - About Email

As I said, I use these links all over the place: in ebooks, in my navigation, in my Newsletters. They take up hardly any space and I am sure that they have helped get the word out about my site.

Can you see the power of an ebook that is free, has give away or resale rights and contains a Tell a Friend link to your download page so that others can download it too? There you go – one of my secrets for free

The Anatomy of a Successful Viral Marketing Campaign

When I bought Thomas Belknap's WSO for a PDF compiler program he had written, at first I thought it might be a nice little addition to my product range. But then I started thinking to myself that there were free PDF compilers available on the web and, sure, I would certainly be able to sell a few of these programs, but I did not think the product would set the world alight. That's not to say it was not a good product – it was actually first-class – just my assessment of how much I thought I might sell.

So instead of selling the software, I thought I would launch a viral marketing campaign. I researched Google and nobody was using the name eWriterPro as far as I could establish and that was the name I chose for my version of the program that Thomas created for me. Today, if you search for eWriterPro, you will find several hundred thousand results and there are many more actual users of the software of course – that is the result of a successful campaign.

How did I do it? Simple. I first cleared the territory with Thomas. I wanted to make sure that what I was going to do was ok with him. As it turned out, he was all for it. Then I wrote a manual for the product, bundled it with my version of the software and ran a free WSO. People were amazed that they were getting such a great piece of software for free and not only that, it came with Master Resale Rights.

One of the moderators here at the forum had great success selling the software to his list. Some of those that bought it immediately began selling it on eBay and what do you know, the viral effect started. Within a few weeks both the mod and Thomas contacted me to tell me about the success they were enjoying. Thomas had a banner ad in the splash screen and he was getting a lot of sales as a result. The mod posted about how he had found gold, for free, in the WSO section. I was delighted for them both.

So how did all of this benefit me? Well, the software had a facility for me to control the advertising area. All I did was put a few affiliate links in there and a registration form. The result? I built a list of several thousand people (still growing – difficult to stop a viral effect once it has started) with very little effort. Of course, that list receives my special offers and a percentage of them purchase. This campaign took me as long as writing the book and running the WSO, absolutely no extra effort at all – about 3 or 4 hours I would say.

I hope that makes you think.

By the way Thomas, if you read this, I have several thousand people who would just love a version of Tiger Viral eWriter for Windows 7. You are a busy man, but you know it makes sense

Think Win-Win

If there is one principle that I have tried to apply constantly it is the win-win idea (Stephen Covey, habit #4, The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People).

You recall that both the forum mod and Thomas were both delighted at the results of the EWP campaign. Indeed, this one experience changed Thomas's strategy for marketing his other software products. Well that is all a part of why the EWP campaign worked. It was not just a win for me – it represented a win for the others involved.

When you can come up with ideas that benefit not only yourself, but also benefit other people, do you think they are more likely to get committed to your project? You betcha!

Sometimes when I contact other marketers to suggest a win-win proposal, they seem to completely miss the opportunity. It may be my fault because I don't like hype and I don't hype my approaches. I simply tell people what I have in mind and how it will work. I think that sometimes, people have seen so much hype in the past that they are unable to recognise a genuine opportunity when it comes along.

But I have worked with some great people here at the forum and I plan to work with many others in the future too. This forum is genuinely a terrific place to network and I really can't thank my fellow Warriors enough for their help and encouragement over the years.

I guess I have rambled on for long enough now. I hope that, if you are still struggling to make your first dime, that you will take encouragement from this post. Sometimes, we just need to know that it can be done, that it is possible – sometimes, that is all we need to know. Well, I hope I have been able to assure you that it is indeed possible. None of this is rocket science. You can do it too!

Now what win-win ideas do you think you can come up with?

Will
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  • Profile picture of the author highrank
    Thanks for the great post Will.

    I remember reading about your plans to enter internet marketing full time when I first got started here in the WF.

    As far as I'm concerned, Will is one of the most respectable people in the industry with a no BS approach and as honest as you get. He's more than happy to show you exactly how he got to this point, without charging you hundreds of dollars or leaving any crucial parts out.

    Check out his other posts like I did, you can easily build up a blueprint for success.

    Cheers Will!
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    Congrats on your first full time week. I read your earlier post that you were nearing this goal.
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    One of the best posts I've read so far! Very educational and quite motivational too! I'll try to read your older posts as I'm sure I'm gonna pick up a lot of ideas. I've just bookmarked this page by the way...
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  • Profile picture of the author zabereu
    Really an inspirational thread for a newbies like me not every one does this shedding out their years of hardwork thanks to will . @Angrybird bookmarking is a nice idea but you can just subscribe tot his thread in warrior forum so that you can check anytime you want!!
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    This is what I call no bull****, you get my stamp of approval.
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    Will this is a fantastic post, if you're ever looking for a prodigee let me know haha! You seem like a guy that has the right mindset and obviously the success to prove it.
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    Great post! Thanks for sharing!
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    Congrats on pulling the plug. Will look forward to future posts.
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    Great post, Will. It shows you don't need someone else's "system" to succeed online, you just need a plan of your own and to take action. That's how I got started too, following my own plan.
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    Thank you for the great advice! It made me feel motivated!
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    Congratulations on becoming a full-time internet marketer. It must feel great to be living your dream. Thanks a lot for making this post, it was very inspirational and thought provoking. I'll start focusing more so on following my own plan to become successful like yourself and hopefully become gainfully self-employed. My number one goal ever since I stepped into internet marketing was to become self-sufficient and I believe that can be done as long as you put in the hard work, intelligence and patience required in order to succeed.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kronom
    Thanks a lot Will, I am glad that I come across your post. I am still a slave of the 9-5 and my ultimate goal is to be working full time as a IM. At the moment I am not making anything yet, so these sort of posts are very motivational, especially for us, newbies. I would love to work with you in the future.

    Originally Posted by Will Edwards View Post

    This is my first week, full time, in Internet Marketing (whoopee!)

    Today, I just feel like giving something to the forum that, as I have said before, has been a kind of online home for me for the past six or so years. I have noticed a number of posts recently that ask questions like: is anybody really making money here? That kind of thing. The reason for these threads is that right at the beginning, making money on the internet does seem to be remarkably difficult.

    Do any of these apply to you?

    1. There's so much hype floating round you don't know who to believe
    2. You are sick of buying stuff you just can't seem to make work
    3. Been scammed a few times and don't trust anyone anymore

    If so, this little thread was written just for you.

    So first off, I want to show you that I know what I am talking about. Today I made a post on my blog that shows my results for the last five months, so I have no problems showing you either

    Here is what I am currently earning:



    Now, you may think that's not a lot of money, but do you know something? It was enough for me to decide it was time to pack in my well-paid day job and concentrate on this project.

    There are people making way more than this here at the forum, but there are also people who just can't seem to get going at all. It reminds me of when I used to play squash: no matter how good I got, there always seemed to be a shed-load of people better, but there were also a shed-load of people who were worse

    Let me say a few things about those stats. Firstly, the bulk of that income is completely passive. Yes I know that's difficult to believe when you are new to all this stuff, but it's nevertheless true. Second, if I actually make an offer to my list, which I do very infrequently, then I get a month like the one you can see in June.

    At present, my focus is on increasing my Adsense revenue and you can see from the above graph that this is happening nicely. I get a very low conversion rate, but I have managed to build a high-traffic site (3 million hits per month at present) and when you manage to do that, you really can't fail to make money.

    How Long Did it Take?

    Well, I started White Dove Books in 2003. At first I was not serious about making money. I just wanted to create a useful site for people who attended my personal development workshops. I did what everyone does - put up affiliate banners - and after one whole year, somebody bought something and I earned my first commission. It was $29 and that sale changed my whole attitude. I realised that if I could earn money as easily as that, there would be no reason that I could not just scale it up and clearly, there would be, theoretically, no upper limit to what I might earn.

    I remember speaking to my wife about my decision to focus on the site. I said that I would need to put in a lot of work and so I would need her to be behind me. I was going to work for 2 hours every morning before going to work, then I was going to do another 2 hours every evening and in addition to that, I was going to work every Saturday on the site. By the way, at the time, I had no idea how I was going to make it all work; I was just determined to do so.

    My wife's response was to ask me how long I thought it would take and do you know what my answer was? I said I thought it might take about 1 year at that rate. Well, here we are 6 years later and I have now only just quit the day job. Why did it take so long? Because I didn't know what I was doing at first. I simply tried everything to see what worked and what didn't. I kept all the good stuff and chucked away the things that didn't work.

    So that's why it took so long, trial and error is not the most efficient route from A to B. However, it got me where I am. If you want to know the things I actually tried, see this thread ...

    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...hout-plan.html

    What Did I Do Well?

    In a phrase - Viral Marketing!

    When I started, I remember a guy called Yanik Silver. I was on his list and way, way back, he sent me an offer. It was essentially about viral marketing. At the time, I misunderstood the term, thought he was suggesting something fishy and ignored the offer - that bit was wrong!

    However, I was inspired by fellow Brit, Harvey Segal. I just liked his style. He would often produce a great product and then just give it away. I realised that his free books were all over the internet and I thought there would be no reason that mine couldn't be all over the internet too. Today they are! And they bring me the following benefits:

    1. Free traffic from links in the books
    2. Free one-way links (when people publish the PDF)
    3. Affiliates - they rebrand them and give them away

    A second aspect of viral marketing is the good old Tell a Friend idea. I have it implemented all over my site and in my Newsletter. The way I do it is very simple and actually, I picked the tip up right here at the forum. As I recall, it was Dr Mani who posted the idea way back.

    Just a quick aside. In case you don't know, Dr Mani is a successful Warrior and internet marketer who ploughs his profits into providing heart operations for underprivileged children. See here ...

    Dr.Mani : About Dr.Mani - www.DrMani.com

    What an absolutely wonderful mission.

    He has problems, as I understand, with Paypal not allowing donations to his cause. He gets around this by selling information products and then using the profits to fund operations. The guy is an inspiration.

    Anyway, the tip he posted was about using the 'mailto' facility. You create a hyperlink which, in turn, creates an email. You can control the subject and the text of that mail. So all a visitor has to do is click it, add their friend's email addie and bang!

    Here is an excellent site (no affiliation) that allows you to create the link easily ...

    Mailto URL Encoder - About Email

    As I said, I use these links all over the place: in ebooks, in my navigation, in my Newsletters. They take up hardly any space and I am sure that they have helped get the word out about my site.

    Can you see the power of an ebook that is free, has give away or resale rights and contains a Tell a Friend link to your download page so that others can download it too? There you go - one of my secrets for free

    The Anatomy of a Successful Viral Marketing Campaign

    When I bought Thomas Belknap's WSO for a PDF compiler program he had written, at first I thought it might be a nice little addition to my product range. But then I started thinking to myself that there were free PDF compilers available on the web and, sure, I would certainly be able to sell a few of these programs, but I did not think the product would set the world alight. That's not to say it was not a good product - it was actually first-class - just my assessment of how much I thought I might sell.

    So instead of selling the software, I thought I would launch a viral marketing campaign. I researched Google and nobody was using the name eWriterPro as far as I could establish and that was the name I chose for my version of the program that Thomas created for me. Today, if you search for eWriterPro, you will find several hundred thousand results and there are many more actual users of the software of course - that is the result of a successful campaign.

    How did I do it? Simple. I first cleared the territory with Thomas. I wanted to make sure that what I was going to do was ok with him. As it turned out, he was all for it. Then I wrote a manual for the product, bundled it with my version of the software and ran a free WSO. People were amazed that they were getting such a great piece of software for free and not only that, it came with Master Resale Rights.

    One of the moderators here at the forum had great success selling the software to his list. Some of those that bought it immediately began selling it on eBay and what do you know, the viral effect started. Within a few weeks both the mod and Thomas contacted me to tell me about the success they were enjoying. Thomas had a banner ad in the splash screen and he was getting a lot of sales as a result. The mod posted about how he had found gold, for free, in the WSO section. I was delighted for them both.

    So how did all of this benefit me? Well, the software had a facility for me to control the advertising area. All I did was put a few affiliate links in there and a registration form. The result? I built a list of several thousand people (still growing - difficult to stop a viral effect once it has started) with very little effort. Of course, that list receives my special offers and a percentage of them purchase. This campaign took me as long as writing the book and running the WSO, absolutely no extra effort at all - about 3 or 4 hours I would say.

    I hope that makes you think.

    By the way Thomas, if you read this, I have several thousand people who would just love a version of Tiger Viral eWriter for Windows 7. You are a busy man, but you know it makes sense

    Think Win-Win

    If there is one principle that I have tried to apply constantly it is the win-win idea (Stephen Covey, habit #4, The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People).

    You recall that both the forum mod and Thomas were both delighted at the results of the EWP campaign. Indeed, this one experience changed Thomas's strategy for marketing his other software products. Well that is all a part of why the EWP campaign worked. It was not just a win for me - it represented a win for the others involved.

    When you can come up with ideas that benefit not only yourself, but also benefit other people, do you think they are more likely to get committed to your project? You betcha!

    Sometimes when I contact other marketers to suggest a win-win proposal, they seem to completely miss the opportunity. It may be my fault because I don't like hype and I don't hype my approaches. I simply tell people what I have in mind and how it will work. I think that sometimes, people have seen so much hype in the past that they are unable to recognise a genuine opportunity when it comes along.

    But I have worked with some great people here at the forum and I plan to work with many others in the future too. This forum is genuinely a terrific place to network and I really can't thank my fellow Warriors enough for their help and encouragement over the years.

    I guess I have rambled on for long enough now. I hope that, if you are still struggling to make your first dime, that you will take encouragement from this post. Sometimes, we just need to know that it can be done, that it is possible - sometimes, that is all we need to know. Well, I hope I have been able to assure you that it is indeed possible. None of this is rocket science. You can do it too!

    Now what win-win ideas do you think you can come up with?

    Will
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    Thanks for the post. We need more people like you ,that share willingly. Thanks a bunch !
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    Thank you very much for your quality post.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mac the Knife
    Great post, from a great Warrior! It is determination and a positive mindset that creates a SUCCESSFUL Warrior. Good job Will!

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  • Profile picture of the author That Guy
    Haha, this is even better than hearing those "got my first click/sale" threads. It's good to see someone be able to succeed so well and be able to work full time because of it. Hope only the best for you and that you'll be able to increase your business because of all this extra time you can invest in your sites.

    Congratz Will!

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  • Profile picture of the author delucia88
    wow...awesome post Will....I was about to give up until I read this post! Thanks a million!
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  • Profile picture of the author Ron Barnas
    Thanks for sharing. Gives us new guys hope.
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    thanks for sharing the info with us...
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  • Profile picture of the author tpw
    I never stopped to think that you were not already full-time online.

    Welcome to this exclusive club.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mr Bill
    Ctrl+A Copy, paste.

    Gold!

    Thank you Will. Thank you very much. More power to you.
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    Best topic I have ever read.
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  • Profile picture of the author Zanti
    Brother Will,

    I've been impressed with your sharing even before I became a member here. What stands out for me most about you is, you get it. You get that there is a world of abundance and not a world of scarcity.

    You get that one can be honest, ethical, and give more in value than what you require in return.

    It is so refreshing to see your share. And how cool is that bald head guy who worked with you. Hat off to you also Thomas.

    My take from your share is that; ones only needs to be creative and think outside the box and not give up to be successful. You don't have to squeeze the last dime out of your customers, you don't have to focus on who your competition is, you really just have to give value to those who come to your site.

    Thanks Will, and much success to you.

    Irie to the highest.

    Brian
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  • Profile picture of the author Gary Ning Lo
    Congratz man and thanks for sharing

    Also read your earlier post..

    People who intend to quit their day job will be getting good advice with these 2 posts.

    Cheers,

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  • Profile picture of the author xxxJamesxxx
    Whoa! That was a long but a very helpful post.

    I use a lot of Viral marketing in my marketing and it's surprising the amount of traffic it can send you once you implement it.

    James Scholes
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  • Profile picture of the author DianaHeuser
    Thank you Will,

    That was really inspirational. Also copied and pasted into my "when I am convinced I will never succeed and need motiviation" sub-directory

    Di
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    Hi,


    What will happen if you type of words "certification-networking"in the google search box?


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  • Profile picture of the author Gary Huynh
    Congrats on your success Will. It's great to hear a viral marketing success story as it is one of my favorite forms of marketing. Give away something for free and useful and let others do the advertising for you. It's brilliant!

    Even though your income is not high when compared to other full-time marketers, it's mostly passive which is a big factor. Passive income is indeed possible. Let's be honest here and say that we all get lazy or busy with our lives. With passive income, it's possible to be lazy and busy and not have to stress out about our business. That's what we all should strive to achieve.
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  • Profile picture of the author Aviator Joe
    quite a motivational story and solid points.
    Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author drmani
    Originally Posted by Will Edwards View Post

    I hope that, if you are still struggling to make your first dime, that you will take encouragement from this post. Sometimes, we just need to know that it can be done, that it is possible - sometimes, that is all we need to know. Well, I hope I have been able to assure you that it is indeed possible.

    Will
    Wonder how I missed this thread for so long!

    Thanks, Will, for sharing an inspirational story about
    well-deserved success. I don't know about newbies, but
    I sure am inspired by what you've accomplished - and by
    sharing it here, you've re-motivated me in a special way,
    thank you.

    It really is amazing at times how things one shares with
    others in the hope of being helpful turns out, often many
    years later, to have been a 'turning point' in a success
    story! I was so thrilled at hearing that the viral email
    technique (that I've told quite a few people about, and
    used myself pretty extensively) was a catalyst in your
    own success story.

    If ever there was proof necessary that sharing knowledge
    in discussions here are never a waste, this was a classic
    example.

    And finally, thank you very much for the gracious words
    about my CHD project and your steadfast support over
    the years, Will. I deeply appreciate you.

    All success
    Dr.Mani
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