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Does it still work? :O
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  • Profile picture of the author thetrafficguy
    I'd say yes but its much faster if you just drop some money on advertising and find out if what you're promoting will make you money.

    You can always build out SEO once you know what you're promoting is making money and worth the effort.
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  • Profile picture of the author thetrafficguy
    I'd say yes but its much faster if you just drop some money on advertising and find out if what you're promoting will make you money.

    You can always build out SEO once you know what you're promoting is making money and worth the effort.
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    • Profile picture of the author zmorris
      What exactly is bum marketing?
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      • Profile picture of the author bondyusoff
        Originally Posted by zmorris View Post

        What exactly is bum marketing?
        Bum marketing is a article marketing, try google bummarketingmethod it still free i guest, it give you complete training regarding bum marketing.

        cheers
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  • Profile picture of the author Miguelito203
    Originally Posted by flatbro94 View Post

    Does it still work? :O
    Yeah. Bum/article marketing still works. It's all about unique, quality content. I get a significant amount of traffic from article sites--especially when I first publish something.

    Joey
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  • Profile picture of the author laurencewins
    Bum marketing is when you set up a stall in a market near home and sell a range of different bums. LOLOLOL


    NO, it's actually article marketing and it still definitely works because good quality content is necessary for Google.
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    • Profile picture of the author Shemp Hain
      Originally Posted by laurencewins View Post

      Bum marketing is when you set up a stall in a market near home and sell a range of different bums. LOLOLOL


      NO, it's actually article marketing and it still definitely works because good quality content is necessary for Google.

      Google can't judge "quality". It can judge length, uniqueness, and bounce rate. Bots and alogorithms can't judge "quality".
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  • Profile picture of the author YanKirby
    I will be saying this through personal experience.

    As much contrary as this would seem, I actually am making a couple of sales monthly for a product that I promoted a year ago through BUM marketing which was waaaaay before the PANDA update.

    While its true that google doesnt love AD's as much as before, not doing any article marketing is a big loss.

    Hope this helps you out.

    -Yan
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    • Profile picture of the author theemperor
      Bum marketing is actually any marketing that can be done for free.

      The idea being that a homeless guy could in theory visit a local library, use the free internet connection and start making money online.

      Then once he gets his first commission cheque he could cash that in or reinvest.

      So buying hosting, a domain name, software or a WSO is out of the question because that requires money.

      But getting backlinks from blog comments, posting articles on article directories, signing up to affiliate programmes for free is OK.

      However I have done 'bum marketing' that requires no article writing and has made me decent money considering how little time it took and yes it cost me $0 to get those streams coming in

      For bum marketing nowadays I would lean towards video instead of articles. A video can rank well easily but requires a few seconds of your time to record you saying something (or use a cartoon and generated voice if you are shy). Much easier than writing long articles.
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  • Profile picture of the author ColinChia
    Yupp... I very much AGREE with #theemperor on this one "Video Marketing" is the BOMB and can do wonders for your ranking and is much quicker than writing articles.

    Gets my "THUMBs UP"!
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  • Profile picture of the author kc33
    Or try uploading content to document sites like scribd.com or slideshare.net. They're free too.
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  • Profile picture of the author paologiannone
    Try to upload content to blogging platform like weebly, blogger, wordpress and hubpages, it is free and can do wonders for th traffi you are going to receive.
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  • Profile picture of the author Benjamin Ehinger
    Originally Posted by flatbro94 View Post

    Does it still work? :O
    This question comes up about once a month and it does. Look into actual article marketing techniques and you can still start off 100% free and build an income. However, I would recommend you spend a few bucks on a domain name and hosting for your own blog or website.

    Benjamin Ehinger
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      Originally Posted by laurencewins View Post

      Bum marketing is when you set up a stall in a market near home and sell a range of different bums. LOLOLOL


      NO, it's actually article marketing and it still definitely works because good quality content is necessary for Google.
      This made me laugh, thanks for the chuckle.

      It's like when someone tells me they're an "Internet Marketer" - I always ask how many Internets they've sold...:p
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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        I've noticed in this forum that ...

        (i) people using the expression "Bum Marketing" are doing so with two distinctly different meanings;

        (ii) their incidence is about 50/50;

        (iii) both groups think that "they're right" and that others using the phrase differently from them are "wrong".

        It's worth knowing this, because it helps to interpret what would otherwise be many instances of people talking at cross-purposes.

        Half the people discussing this are referring to "direct-linking only" (i.e. not having a site at all, not even a one-page blog, in-between the article and the intended promotion/hoplink/whatever), and the other half are referring to directing the traffic to their own little site (with/without trying to build a list there).

        The "original" version of Bum Marketing, from Travis (who invented the term and often posts here, and may well see this thread and reply himself, by the way ), I think, referred to "no website" and "using direct-linking". I think we can all agree that, to put it mildly, that was certainly a lot easier 5 years ago than it is now. (Not because of any prohibitions on direct-linking: those are easily circumvented by redirecting the link through a redirected domain-name, of course).

        It depends what you're selling/promoting, though: clearly one's far more likely to be successful with it for CPA offers than for selling Clickbank products, say.

        Having your own website (even if it's a one-page blog) is so easy, these days, that it's difficult to see much "advantage" in not building an asset-based business, rather than simply doing a constant "rinse-and-repeat" and depending on other people's sites for your traffic. So in that sense, the question's now become a little "academic", perhaps. It doesn't matter whether the original version of "bum marketing" without a website does still work, because nobody much would want to do it that way anyway: you don't need to put yourself under that sort of disadvantage any more when you can have your own little site in an hour without spending a penny on it.
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        • Profile picture of the author theemperor
          Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

          I've noticed in this forum that ...

          (iii) both groups think that "they're right" and that others using the phrase differently from them are "wrong".
          More broadly speaking:

          Everyone on an internet forum thinks that "they're right"
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  • Profile picture of the author genhorrall
    Yes bum marketing still works. It is in fact where almost everyone gets their start. The question is not in the marketing style you pick so much as in the amount of value you have to offer your market. Do you know what it is they are searching for? Do you have something to teach them that will help with their issues and problems?

    It is not whether or not your marketing is free to do, it is in the ability to help your market.
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  • Profile picture of the author JamesGw
    It can work, but more money is always better IMO. I don't really care what anyone says.
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  • Profile picture of the author creationz
    is bum marketing more successful for a particular niche or is it same for all????
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    • Profile picture of the author WebPen
      Originally Posted by creationz View Post

      is bum marketing more successful for a particular niche or is it same for all????
      It can work in just about any niche. I would suggest though that some forms of bum marketing might work better than others depending on the niche.

      For example, forum marketing can work well in the WF if you're in the IM niche.

      If you're writing articles, I dont think the IM/MMO niche is as good. Most people are pretty skeptical about making money online, but articles can work well for a niche like World of Warcraft or maybe weight loss.
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      • Profile picture of the author Chri5123
        Bum Marketing is very dangerous because if successful it may end up being very painful...at least that is what I have heard!

        LOL

        Sorry could't resist from the U.K here and bum means...nevermind...*ahem*

        Yes, Bum marketing actually is not that brilliant anymore depending on what you THINK it means.

        I THINK it means a process of using high page rank sites like Squidoo, US Free Ads and Ezine articles to get your keyword packed content to rank highly. It DID used to work really well...

        However due to the recent changes with Google i.e Panda update and also the changes at Ezine articles as well and other sites following suites you are FAR better off learning how to do article marketing the CORRECT way to BUILD your business rather than trying to "piggyback" off other people's.

        Hope this helps?

        Chris Jones
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        • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
          Originally Posted by Chri5123 View Post

          Bum Marketing is very dangerous because if successful it may end up being very painful...at least that is what I have heard!

          LOL

          Sorry could't resist from the U.K here and bum means...nevermind...*ahem*

          Chris Jones
          Another serious chuckle. Thanks!

          Would that be like the hooker who bought a bicycle so she could peddle her ass all over town?
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      • Profile picture of the author xallever
        The thing is I bet some niches require a lot more than just doing screencasts for video marketing.

        If your site is say, on car maintenance, of course you could still do screencasts. For instance, you could just go to the Powerpoint and then show screenshots and images and whatnot.

        However, I don't know whether people would necessarily think that that's better than articles. If you go to a car maintenance site, I would think that the audience would expect to see a couple of DIYs when they're watching some videos.

        I don't know, I don't yet have an experience in car maintenance sites, but wouldn't video marketing work better in some niches (or at least requiring MUCH less effort) than the others?

        Anyone chip in?

        Originally Posted by Justin Stowe View Post

        It can work in just about any niche. I would suggest though that some forms of bum marketing might work better than others depending on the niche.

        For example, forum marketing can work well in the WF if you're in the IM niche.

        If you're writing articles, I dont think the IM/MMO niche is as good. Most people are pretty skeptical about making money online, but articles can work well for a niche like World of Warcraft or maybe weight loss.
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  • Profile picture of the author laurencewins
    @John... just as bad as garage sales. Why on earth people would want to sell their garage, I don't know. Yes, it is funny to take people literally sometimes and I am glad at least one person got a laugh from selling bums.
    I guess the removal process might be a bit unpleasant.
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  • Profile picture of the author benzwm02
    Originally Posted by flatbro94 View Post

    Does it still work? :O
    If you mean the marketing method of cranking out a dozen articles with your clickbank affiliate link and sending them to ezine or article base..then good luck..

    99 percent of marketers wont even come close to making a cent this way.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kai Pei
    Definitely capitalize on the Web 2.0 properties out there like Squidoo, Weebly, Blogger, and WordPress.com... (just to name a few)
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  • Profile picture of the author maxmed
    I think that it still work but not as much as before (before panda update) .
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  • Profile picture of the author ours
    I guess Modern successful Bum Marketing may be we can consider video marketing, PPT marketing or PDF share etc ( a different mode of content marketing) and there are so many places to do the marketing for free. But for success in any marketing the value we are sharing with our users must have proper meaning so that users can refer.
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    • Profile picture of the author Ryan David
      Lots of things work...the question is how well they work in comparison to other things you could be doing.

      And if I look at it that way, "Bum Marketing" is a highly inefficient use of time and not a great way to build equity in your business.

      But I'm not opposed to bootstrapping your way to some cash...just realize that you should focus on building equity at some point.
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  • Profile picture of the author jasonl70
    The only thing that was more popular than Bum Marketing when it came out (and it was basicaly just direct linking from articles in article directories), were the threads and wso's regarding struggling bum marketers.

    I remember folks working their butts off for weeks/months, with maybe 1 sale to show for their efforts. Like article marketing in general - success seemed to be predicated by a long and very time intensive process. I'm talking about people who sat down and wrote articles all day, every day. Or else, they outsourced
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    This method got me started.... And into earning hundreds online...so yes
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  • Profile picture of the author Andrea21
    I have got a generic domain that is around 6 years old with a 0 PR. There is already some content on the site and it ranks for some very long tail keywords on a variety of subjects in different niches.

    I would like to know if it will work to do Bum Marketing on that site instead of having a domain on each niche? I would like to test which niches provide the best performance.

    Also, can someone tell me what you think of using revenue share properties to earn an income and build some links to the site?

    I hope you will reply.
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  • Profile picture of the author Terry Hatfield
    You would be much better off if you contact sites in your niche and see if they will allow you to write an informative article for their site in exchange you get targeted traffic and a link back to your site. It is called guest blogging.
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  • Profile picture of the author Shannon Herod
    "Bum Marketing" the way Travis teaches it, is no longer effective from my testing and experience.

    The reason why... it relies on article directories for traffic, and after the last update the article directories lost around 90% of their traffic across the board.

    Article directories are only useful for two things now...

    1. syndication

    2. link building

    If your plan somehow involves filtering traffic from an article directory to you site or an affiliate site you will be disappointed with your results.

    Shannon
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    • Profile picture of the author goldmineberry
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      Originally Posted by Shannon Herod View Post

      "Bum Marketing" the way Travis teaches it, is no longer effective from my testing and experience.

      The reason why... it relies on article directories for traffic, and after the last update the article directories lost around 90% of their traffic across the board.

      Article directories are only useful for two things now...

      1. syndication

      2. link building

      If your plan somehow involves filtering traffic from an article directory to you site or an affiliate site you will be disappointed with your results.

      Shannon
      I agree with this too. I used to do intensive article marketing for my micro niche sites and it works lucratively!

      However, because of the recent panda update by a guy named Panda, majority of article directories have lost their ranking power.

      Nonetheless, I still believe that article marketing is still capable of bringing good targeted traffic because up to these days I am still earning passive income from my written and submitted articles for my niche sites a few years back.

      I would advise that we diversify our online marketing efforts which must include SEO, Quality Link Building, Adwords, Facebook CPC, and Article Marketing. These marketing strategies can sustain you for the long run in your Internet marketing entrepreneurship journey.

      All the best to our Internet marketing success!
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  • Profile picture of the author thetrafficguy
    Are you a bum? If so market like one.

    If you want to be a professional (and get paid like one) then market like a professional.

    (Hint: Hard work required)
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  • Profile picture of the author YasirYar
    Bum marketing can work well if you write a good, unique piece of article. If you grab the reader's attention, then you can earn with article marketing as well.
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