Internet Marketing Degree

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I am thinking of persuing an Internet Marketing Degree from Full Sail University. I was wondering if others had any input on this or have been through the program. It can be found at Internet Marketing Bachelor's Degree : Full Sail Online
#degree #internet #marketing
  • Profile picture of the author YasirYar
    Just giving you my 2 cents..

    You would be much better of just going through this forum for free and would learn a lot more about online marketing than pursuing that degree.. I am pretty sure these kind of degrees do not go much into depth.
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    • Profile picture of the author JSThompson
      Originally Posted by YasirYar View Post

      Just giving you my 2 cents..

      You would be much better of just going through this forum for free and would learn a lot more about online marketing than pursuing that degree.. I am pretty sure these kind of degrees do not go much into depth.
      I kinda agree with you, but it does cover some traditional marketing points too. So I can use the degree for a stepping stone to get into marketing. And I get a mac notebook and my G.I. Bill is paying for it so :rolleyes:.
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      • Profile picture of the author Henry White
        Originally Posted by JSThompson View Post

        I kinda agree with you, but it does cover some traditional marketing points too. So I can use the degree for a stepping stone to get into marketing. And I get a mac notebook and my G.I. Bill is paying for it so :rolleyes:.
        You're also paying over 50 grand for a bachelor's degree from a school that isn't known to most employers.

        I have nothing against getting your degree online - all the unbiased studies indicate there is no significant difference from traditional "sage on the stage" settings. Having been there, done that, I can assure you it is NOT for everybody - there is necessarily a LOT more reading involved online and almost all of your participation in "class" discussions, etc., is written. For some odd reason, most people are shocked when they discover that.

        If you primarily want the basic education and the sheepskin is secondary, you can simulate a world-class education through Open Course Ware - my favorite is MIT's Sloan School of Business:
        Free Online Course Materials | Sloan School of Management | MIT OpenCourseWare
        full syllabus, readings, lecture notes, recitations, assignments, even a sample exam on many of these.

        Or you can streamline further - just buy the required textbooks (used, previous edition) for the courses you want/need to learn and read them cover to cover, taking notes.
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  • Profile picture of the author YasirYar
    LOL. In that case, go for it, but just understand that you will find much more info here on the forum than they would teach you.
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  • Profile picture of the author David Keith
    i dont think it is a bad idea at all. it will give you a very solid marketing foundation to help you see through the hype and BS some people pitch as the latest greatest way to make easy money.

    i think it would also give you a very tangible degree that in the worst case scenario, would give you a real leg up on getting a job. Everyone know the internet is only growing, so that degree would be worth something. granted it wont be a Harvard business degree, but i think it is a solid plan.
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    • Profile picture of the author JSThompson
      The Internet is only growing and will continue to do so. I 100% agree with you. That is why that degree caught my eye over a traditional marketing one. I think I will contact them for more information. I figure I will get that one. My fiancee is getting hers in accounting.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ti
    Any company that tries to sell you an Internet Marketing Degree is a complete joke. Marketing on the Internet moves too quickly to have any sort of curriculum be of any use. Further, the truly powerful IM techniques are never discussed, never taught, and you have no chance learning it from anybody else, through a school, through this forum, at all. The reasons for this are very self explanatory.

    You are better off learning business and marketing in general.
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      • Profile picture of the author JSThompson
        Originally Posted by Ramo View Post

        I've been through all of these classes and I would disagree with the fact that business and marketing in general will help you more in internet marketing than a degree in internet marketing. If internet marketing is constantly changing, which it is, then your comment says that all these degrees are useless to apply to internet marketing. The entire business world is rapidly changing, not just internet marketing. One thing I may advise is to not get a degree from an online university but go to an actual campus.
        Brick and mortar classrooms do not work for me. I have been out of school since 1997 and can't function in a traditional class room. I have tried twice to start my degree at a local CC. Online I dont have the same issues. Other circumstances I don't wish to get into also make it hard to go to a traditional college for me too. As for the previous poster saying it was a waste, I disagree. That is like saying a computer science degree is worthless because they're always changing.
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        • Profile picture of the author Ti
          Originally Posted by JSThompson View Post

          Brick and mortar classrooms do not work for me. I have been out of school since 1997 and can't function in a traditional class room.
          The world will always provide for those who excel in the areas of intelligence and achievements.

          There is no sugar-coating this: If you choose not to educate yourself then you will always take a back seat to those who do. Any variance on how you choose to educate yourself will be directly related to your successes in life.
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      • Profile picture of the author Ti
        Originally Posted by Ramo View Post

        I've been through all of these classes and I would disagree with the fact that business and marketing in general will help you more in internet marketing than a degree in internet marketing. If internet marketing is constantly changing, which it is, then your comment says that all these degrees are useless to apply to internet marketing. The entire business world is rapidly changing, not just internet marketing. One thing I may advise is to not get a degree from an online university but go to an actual campus.
        You logic is completely flawed due to a single reason: Marketing fundamentals

        The Internet has not changed marketing fundamentals. In fact, no medium that exists today, or that has existed in the history of our species, has changed core marketing fundamentals.

        These fundamentals are taught in school. Bundle in the knowledge learned through a standard MBA type of degree and you will find yourself with a very established platform from which to enhance yourself and specialize in a particular niche, such as Internet Marketing.
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    • Profile picture of the author Suthan M
      Originally Posted by Ti View Post

      Any company that tries to sell you an Internet Marketing Degree is a complete joke. Marketing on the Internet moves too quickly to have any sort of curriculum be of any use. Further, the truly powerful IM techniques are never discussed, never taught, and you have no chance learning it from anybody else, through a school, through this forum, at all. The reasons for this are very self explanatory.

      You are better off learning business and marketing in general.
      That too shallow in thinking.. While i do agree that IM changes all the time, but through my 8 years of marketing- i have been using nearly the same strategies and systems.

      This shows that NOT everything changes rapidly... Websites change, themes change, people change, influences change.. but core things like processes and systems dont..

      another line of thought is many in different profesion will also say the same thing- that things change fast in their industry..
      Example: Ask the IT students, the psychologists, even , animators, art students, engineers etc

      I think any form of learning should not be neglected, both at school and what you can learn hands on. The important thing at the end of the day is you should STUDY and LEARN what you like and are passionate about :-)
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    • Originally Posted by Ti View Post

      Any company that tries to sell you an Internet Marketing Degree is a complete joke. Marketing on the Internet moves too quickly to have any sort of curriculum be of any use.
      This is 100% correct.

      The Internet is far too dynamic to "institutionalize" it into a degree. Imagine they're teaching your Pay Per Click advertisement... well, there comes a Google slap and what was working 3 months ago it's no longer applicable.

      Don't kid yourself believing that any type of IM Degree is going to be worth it in any possible way...
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      • Profile picture of the author David Keith
        Originally Posted by Anonymous Affiliate View Post

        This is 100% correct.

        The Internet is far too dynamic to "institutionalize" it into a degree. Imagine they're teaching your Pay Per Click advertisement... well, there comes a Google slap and what was working 3 months ago it's no longer applicable.

        Don't kid yourself believing that any type of IM Degree is going to be worth it in any possible way...
        i dont agree. following that logic, every time something changed in IM we would all start back over as newbies.

        sure we all have to continually learn, but if you were good at ppc and then google changes something, does all or even most of your ppc knowledge become useless.

        no, in fact, in most cases only a very small amount of your old knowledge becomes useless in these scenarios. same thing goes for natural seo techniques and virtually every other marketing technique. every time the google algorithm changes a few things change, but most things stay very close to the same.

        has email followup marketing really changed that much in the last decade. not really, i have been here the whole time. sure there are things that did work well that no longer do, but for the most part, its pretty much the same stuff.

        the basics of IM and business in general have not really changed all that much.
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  • Profile picture of the author Josh Tracy PhD
    I would be wary of any institution marketing a degree as an "Internet Marketing Degree." This is commensurate to the previous debate within academia over the so-called "entrepreneur degree." The opportunity cost is not positive in my opinion.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dee Odus
    Wow Internet Marketing Degree lol

    First think of MBA. How many MBA students can run a business of their own? Street is the best teacher not school. Take I.T for example or music or sports, the best in these industries are those that are self taught, think of Bill Gates or Steve Jobs, or Dell or etc, Elton John Or Jay Z, Ronaldo or Federer, etc they didn't go to university, they learn hard core from teaching themselves and working hard at it.

    Secondly, by the time you finish your degree, say 3 years, the whole industries would have moved in another direction. When I was studying Computing at uni, all my academics books were outdated throughout the 3 years. Yeah it's true the fundamentals remain the same, but someone out there will always be ahead of you if you are stuck at the university.

    My 2 cents, so please comment.
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    • Profile picture of the author JSThompson
      Originally Posted by Dee Odus View Post

      Wow Internet Marketing Degree lol

      First think of MBA. How many MBA students can run a business of their own? Street is the best teacher not school. Take I.T for example or music or sports, the best in these industries are those that are self taught, think of Bill Gates or Steve Jobs, or Dell or etc, Elton John Or Jay Z, Ronaldo or Federer, etc they didn't go to university, they learn hard core from teaching themselves and working hard at it.

      Secondly, by the time you finish your degree, say 3 years, the whole industries would have moved in another direction. When I was studying Computing at uni, all my academics books were outdated throughout the 3 years. Yeah it's true the fundamentals remain the same, but someone out there will always be ahead of you if you are stuck at the university.

      My 2 cents, so please comment.
      Not really much to add, I have said my piece on why I am thinking of taking the degree. However, I have had my own brick and mortar business. I ran a computer repair shop for several years, I was OJTed by the Navy in System Administration on Windows and Linux. I was trained in computer repair OJT, I was trained in computer secruity OJT. Now it is time to do something I want just because I can for no other reason.
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  • Profile picture of the author ColinChia
    Hey,

    I think what you need to take into consideration is what your learning style is like?

    Some people like the classroom environment it helps them learn better, some learn by doing, others by reading and watching videos.

    Totally depends what works best for you... we agree to disagree, simply because everyone is different.

    For me personally working on my I.M business has been the biggest and best experience for me... beating any college education I could get and I'm getting paid at the same time to learn, improve and get better.

    Hope this helps,

    Colin
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  • Profile picture of the author adammck
    If you want to learn the traditional stuff then perhaps, but how much of that will you actually learn there?

    Get a mini budget, come on this forum, trial and error, see how you go. I did a marketing type diploma that only went for a year. It was enough to get the basics, i'm now just exploring online (while working a 9-5 online marketing job).

    Everyone's different, do what you think is best for you. Perhaps just a normal market degree, as a future proof, then learn IM off here.

    Good luck
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    • Profile picture of the author JSThompson
      I have my mentors for IM and am learning from them. I am looking at the degree for the "free" mac and the traditional marketing information. As well as some of the S.E.O. tactics. I am hoping in the advanced course I learn something I don't know, if not it is easy As. As for IM I am still new to it but I do have a few reports and other products out there.
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  • Profile picture of the author O0o0O
    The stuff here in Warrior forum is more up to date, but a formal education is more structured without all the misinformation.
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  • Profile picture of the author Patrick Pretty
    I'd never heard of this school prior to the opening of this thread. Visiting the site was worthwhile. Full Sail also has a Wikipedia entry, although the editors say the article is written like an advertisement. I found both the school site and the Wikipedia site useful.

    Did a quick Google search using "Full Sail University Accreditation" -- without the quotes. The search returned some useful results that led to some open questions about whether credits earned at Full Sail are transferable to other academic institutions. There appears to be no doubt that the school is accredited by the Accrediting Commission of Career Schools and Colleges (ACCSC) and licensed by the state of Florida.

    Info on ACCSC, which accredits trade and technical schools, is here:

    ACCSC- About Us

    Full Sail has some PR savvy. Its website reports that Hank Williams Jr. did a shoot for Monday Night Football at the school's campus on Sept. 1. The school also has a "Hall of Fame" in which it lauds prominent graduates, including a Grammy-winner and an Emmy-winner.

    The school, which has multiple degree programs and publishes a list that includes both credit hours and clock hours, has critics. Some folks complained it was too expensive. Others complained its degrees may lack street clout. Still others asserted that coursework was pedestrian.

    Here are some of the instructors and their academic pedigrees:

    Faculty - Internet Marketing : Full Sail Online

    One thing that caught my attention is that the school says it has a Public Relations module in its IM degree track. The reason it caught my attention is that IMers frequently have no PR savvy at all and are behind the wheel of PR trainwreck after PR trainwreck.

    On a side note, Bethany College (Kansas) announced in April that it was introducing a marketing degree track that had a network-marketing emphasis. The critics of MLM promptly stroked out, but the real story was in the equally predictable reactions of certain MLM aficionados. MLM so often is its own worst enemy.

    Lots of IMers/MLMers create the appearance that academics have no role and that the notion anyone ever would need go to college to learn IM/MLM is absurd. I happen to believe it's not absurd and that academics could play a vital role in elevating the stature of the trade and sending the message that professionalism is not an abstract concept.
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  • Profile picture of the author Aviator Joe
    Lol i had no idea they taught this in universities

    In my mind universities are just another business that trains people to work for other men.
    This is my opinion
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  • Profile picture of the author ZachWaldman
    I'm a professional stand-up comedian and magician, yet I'm glad I got a B.A. from the University of Central Florida.

    Here's the thing that a lot of people are leaving out.

    When you get a degree, it means you set goals and achieved them. Whether you get a degree in English, political science, or anything else, doesn't really matter.

    What matters is that you prove to yourself and to potential employers that you're disciplined and driven enough to set your sites on a goal and accomplish it.

    I remember hearing a story about some successful businessman that was asked what his secret was. He replied, "Show up."

    So few people simply show up and do the job. When you get a degree, you separate yourself from the flakes.

    All education is good and once you have it, it can't be taken away. My advice is to get a degree. After you do, you're free to do whatever you want. No matter what you decide to do, you'll always know that you set your mind to something and accomplished it. That's a lesson that will always serve you well. When things get tough, you'll remember that they were tough before and you prevailed.

    The number one reason people don't make money in IM is because they fail to take action. Getting a degree will show you that taking action day in and day out leads to success.
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    • Profile picture of the author valmillercorl
      Originally Posted by ZachWaldman View Post

      I'm a professional stand-up comedian and magician, yet I'm glad I got a B.A. from the University of Central Florida.

      Here's the thing that a lot of people are leaving out.

      When you get a degree, it means you set goals and achieved them. Whether you get a degree in English, political science, or anything else, doesn't really matter.

      What matters is that you prove to yourself and to potential employers that you're disciplined and driven enough to set your sites on a goal and accomplish it.

      I remember hearing a story about some successful businessman that was asked what his secret was. He replied, "Show up."

      So few people simply show up and do the job. When you get a degree, you separate yourself from the flakes.

      All education is good and once you have it, it can't be taken away. My advice is to get a degree. After you do, you're free to do whatever you want. No matter what you decide to do, you'll always know that you set your mind to something and accomplished it. That's a lesson that will always serve you well. When things get tough, you'll remember that they were tough before and you prevailed.

      The number one reason people don't make money in IM is because they fail to take action. Getting a degree will show you that taking action day in and day out leads to success.
      Well said my friend...
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    • Profile picture of the author Dee Odus
      Originally Posted by ZachWaldman View Post

      I'm a professional stand-up comedian and magician, yet I'm glad I got a B.A. from the University of Central Florida.

      Here's the thing that a lot of people are leaving out.

      When you get a degree, it means you set goals and achieved them. Whether you get a degree in English, political science, or anything else, doesn't really matter.

      What matters is that you prove to yourself and to potential employers that you're disciplined and driven enough to set your sites on a goal and accomplish it.

      I remember hearing a story about some successful businessman that was asked what his secret was. He replied, "Show up."

      So few people simply show up and do the job. When you get a degree, you separate yourself from the flakes.

      All education is good and once you have it, it can't be taken away. My advice is to get a degree. After you do, you're free to do whatever you want. No matter what you decide to do, you'll always know that you set your mind to something and accomplished it. That's a lesson that will always serve you well. When things get tough, you'll remember that they were tough before and you prevailed.

      The number one reason people don't make money in IM is because they fail to take action. Getting a degree will show you that taking action day in and day out leads to success.
      Zach I agree with your points, am sure most people here also agree with you. I also have a degree in Computing, and I loved every minutes of it, I may also be going for another degree, maybe in Psychology. We are not knocking the idea of getting a degree.

      We are saying, getting a degree in IM is not worth pursuing, anyway that's just my personal opinion that no one should take seriously :-)
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeTucker
    Now, I am speaking as a Jr. High drop-out here, but isn't that piece of paper called a "degree" for those people who want to work for someone else?


    ... You know the old saying, the A students become teachers, and the B students end up working for the C students.


    I'm told those student loans are pretty expensive these days, so carefully consider your goals before committing to that kind of debt.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jerry Reily
    So they are offering that stuff now? Back then, I got a ton of brochure that Full Sail sent me when they were just starting. I have inquired about their multimedia course (3ds max) but didn't pursue it since they were an unknown. I was self-studying Flash 4 and decided to focus in creating animated greeting cards.
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  • Profile picture of the author IMWinner
    Is it really real? Personally, I don't think Internet Marketing Degree will do much help on how you can enjoy earning some money from your online work, since most people here will probably agree with me that they don't have this formal education for being Internet Marketing businessmen, right?
    I mean, there is no such thing as Internet Marketing Degree before and how come it only comes out now? What would we learn from it and what would they teach us? I can't see the logic in the idea that if they are earning because they are an Internet Marketers, why would they make a degree from it and requires a fee to learn from it? And most especially, what guarantees us that we could really make it successfully when we enrol to the degree.
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  • Profile picture of the author digitally
    Saw few times the ad from Full Sail on this.

    Nothing wrong with that, but maybe it's just a faster way to learn IM (an overview) and I do believe that it'll always keep changing and you'll always still need to learn.

    Then again, learning on your own is cheaper and slower. Steep learning curve but I guess with places like here, you can speed up abit with the help of others
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  • Profile picture of the author Lauryn
    I have the IMMS degree and trust me, you will learn a great deal - especially in terms of corporate internet marketing that cuts through a lot of the muck you have to sift through here.

    I have so many companies hitting ME up for interviews because they need that demonstrated experience.

    Yes, I've done Internet Marketing on my own for 2 years prior to going but the experience of knowing how IM works in ALL aspects is sooo important.

    Don't let the naysayers get to you... there are plenty of things I learned at Full Sail on the Master's level from corporate experts with their own multimillion dollar portfolios that you WILL not find here.
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  • Profile picture of the author David Keith
    i have been making money online for over 15 years, and i can honestly say that without fail 80%+ of my business is continually based on marketing fundamentals. sure some search engine tactics change or software makes thing possible that were not possible before. but by far most of what i do is the same.

    i work to create win-win-win solutions with myself, my customers, my business partners.

    i work to advertise any site i am working with in as many high traffic places as possible.

    i work to create some sort of followup system to keep in touch with customers.

    i attempt to track any statistic i can.

    the bottom line is that while a few tactics change fast, doing business on the internet does not change nearly as fast as most would think. unless of course you are one of those people thats is perpetually looking for the next way to make a million dollars in a month rather than focusing on solving people problems and just making a few dollars.

    for every google or facebook that had a great idea and got a little lucky essentially winning the lottery, there are literally millions of other business built on solid business / marketing fundamentals
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    • Profile picture of the author jamseblack
      Internet Marketing is the very good degree for the Internet Marketing that means Any one want to Expand there business by the internet then this degree holder can do it very easy way with good effort, to get this degree one can have to knowledge of Internet and well known of the internet marketing then can do good .
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  • Profile picture of the author JSThompson
    Thank you everyone for your views on the subject, there are good pros and cons in this thread. This is only one of three degrees I am considering from there, but it is the only one that applies to this forum. In the end I will be going to that school, it will just come down to which degree I feel will be more beneficial to me in the long run. I am a disabled Veteran so I am not looking for a degree that will get me a job in corporate America, I couldn't work there if I wanted to. I am looking for something to occupy my time and possibly help me with IM or making money from home.

    That being said the other degrees I am looking at involves making websites or mobile development. I know mobile is growing but I am afraid that the boom is here and when I am done with the degree I will just be picking up the scraps that are left over. Websites will be around but that doesnt really interest me as much as either of the others.

    Again thank you everyone for your input.
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  • Profile picture of the author bmarketer
    There is really no reason the get a degree for something like Internet Marketing when there is infinite amounts of information available on the internet if you know where to look. I really think people nowadays should take it upon themselves to learn what they need to learn in order to be successful in their own way instead of having institutions try and trick them into thinking they need to go through irrelevant courses. There is more information available from people that will provide anyone with a platform to start their own successful business than from some syllabus.
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    • Profile picture of the author David Keith
      Originally Posted by bmarketer View Post

      There is really no reason the get a degree for something like Internet Marketing when there is infinite amounts of information available on the internet if you know where to look. I really think people nowadays should take it upon themselves to learn what they need to learn in order to be successful in their own way instead of having institutions try and trick them into thinking they need to go through irrelevant courses. There is more information available from people that will provide anyone with a platform to start their own successful business than from some syllabus.
      i totally agree with one exception. if you are fairly new to all this, the sheer amount of information is very overwhelming.

      on just the warriorforum alone there are close to 3 million posts.

      and while i do agree that every bit of information a person would need to know about internet marketing can probably be found here, there is no method of how to go about learning it.

      worse yet, unfortunately there is also a good bit of bad information here and in many other places, so getting a degree from someone who has put much of the information into an organized fashion is not a bad idea at all.

      the information needed to become a brain surgeon is also for the most part available for free or relatively low cost in medical books. but that does not mean that would be the best way to go about becoming a brain surgeon.

      btw.... i am completely self taught. i dropped out of college my first semester to do this stuff some 13 years ago or so. but i can honestly say that some sort of organized method of learning IM would have helped me in my early years. i paid for my IM degree one $47 ebook at a time. but the bad part was i then had decide if each of those books i bought was giving me good or bad information.
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  • Profile picture of the author JaySaldivar
    I think a degree is more important when you want to get a job, I mean a real job. Because they are going to see that you are 'qualified'. However, if you are in this game to become financial independent there are many resources that are free like this forum and much cheaper to understand the dynamics of internet marketing to make money. College degrees are kind of expensive and it would take your time. When you are in your own business no one asks you for credentials, not even the lady at the bank when you deposit cash.
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  • Profile picture of the author Lauryn
    To be clear, most of the Internet Marketing curriculum for Full Sail has little to nothing to do with most of the Internet Marketing I see here.

    Most of the program is tailored for individuals who are interested in corporate marketing, not necessarily the small, plans to be self-employed business owner.

    If your goal is to make a basic portfolio of niche sites, or specialize in a small area of offline consulting, web design, etc, then no this degree isn't for you.

    With that said, I *will* say some of the respectable heavy hitters on this forum with proven experience and success in business and marketing do have corporate or entrepreneurial experience that precedes their entrance into this community.

    Ron Douglas is an example.

    (And this is NOT to say to succeed you "have" to have that success, but that it is noted when someone who does well in this arena can establish the fact they've brought their expertise aboard.)
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  • Profile picture of the author BenKJunya
    The incredible growth of the Internet has changed many features and aspects of modern life. One of the many career fields the Internet has changed is marketing. A completely new area of marketing has been given entry and has progressively gained speed as people are increasingly becoming more and more dependent on the Internet in their everyday lives. With so many people accessing the Web throughout the day, it is very good to pursue a degree in Internet Marketing as you will have the opportunity to publicize and market products with ease to various other internet users. It will help you spread out your marketing expertise while making yourself more marketable.
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  • Profile picture of the author paigelee
    Give it a try if its really for free. However, if its not then your just wasting money or time. Because Internet Marketing is broad and there are lots of way, methods whatever you call it that may work out or may not. You can just learn from a lot of free online internet marketing training which can be very beneficial to you.
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    • Profile picture of the author ShaneBoyd
      Pretty much any degree requires that you have your 2 year degree with your core classes first. For example, I'm currently in college (at the age of 33) and I'm in my 5th semester. I'll have my 2 year degree in December from a local community college.

      THEN I'll transfer to a larger campus where I'll earn my BS in marketing in about 2 years from now.

      As far as "Internet Marketing"...well that is just now being introduced to some colleges. It would be a waste of time going through and doing all the college work for an unaccredited school.

      I'm getting my marketing degree for other reasons. It has nothing to do with "internet marketing". If all you want to do is learn about internet marketing, then buy some courses from Derek Gehl, John Reese, Frank Kern, Yanik Silver and Dan Kennedy. Those guys will teach you more about marketing and online marketing than ANY professor could.

      Just my two cents.

      Good luck in all you do.

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  • Profile picture of the author AdwordsMogul
    Let's cut the B.S. out.

    If your goal is to get a "good" job - go to the uni.

    If you want to run a real business, study Eben Pagan, Jay Abraham, or Dan Kennedy.
    Eben has a great way of explaining things to beginners.

    The Warrior Forum is great, but it's not enough to get solid education. See it more as a really powerful supplement.
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    • Profile picture of the author JB
      I know a guy who did a degree based around internet studies and subsequently went on to do a masters in the area of online marketing. Let me tell you that the stuff he is doing is not the type of stuff you will find on this forum or any other public forum. His course might have touched on blogging and social media and basic marketing principals in the first year but from then on its all about the cutting edge research being conducted by university think tanks and future strategies as employed by the likes of Google, Apple, Facebook and all the other global players including gaming companies. This is all done in the context of internet economics, online corporate business models and how they affect pure play vs clicks and mortar business and statistical analysis etc using really advanced metrics.
      Just for the research he is doing for his masters he managed to leverage government grants to entice over 50 multinationals that pay around 20K per month to take part in a program that will provide new ways of generating more detailed analytics and metrics etc. Even though he doesn't see a penny of this as a student he is the one creating a new way of doing things and all of these firms will want to deal with him or employ him when he graduates. I wouldn't knock a proper recognised degree in the area, if I got the chance to do one I would take it without question. You have to look hard to find the right one though, if it's not through a national University as opposed to a private college then it is likely to be disappointing.
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        Originally Posted by JB View Post

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        Just for the research he is doing for his masters he managed to leverage government grants to entice over 50 multinationals that pay around 20K per month to take part in a program that will provide new ways of generating more detailed analytics and metrics etc. ...
        Yeah, so they are turning him into another employable robot - all this stuff won't necessarily help him run his own business.

        When you come out of uni, you are just one piece of a puzzle that fits into someone else's vision. You may get paid a lot when you are part of a bigger organization, but on your own you are back at square one.

        Reality check: the reality of any business is not politically correct, so the institutions regulated by the authorities cannot teach you the truth.

        To succeed in business you often have to do the opposite of what you learn in school.

        In short, you can't expect the spoils of a predator, if you act like prey.
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        • Profile picture of the author JB
          Originally Posted by AdwordsMogul View Post

          Yeah, so they are turning him into another employable robot - all this stuff won't necessarily help him run his own business.

          When you come out of uni, you are just one piece of a puzzle that fits into someone else's vision. You may get paid a lot when you are part of a bigger organization, but on your own you are back at square one.

          Reality check: the reality of any business is not politically correct, so the institutions regulated by the authorities cannot teach you the truth.

          To succeed in business you often have to do the opposite of what you learn in school.

          In short, you can't expect the spoils of a predator, if you act like prey.
          I hear this type of opinion s lot from people who are making their own way online. Yes, universities churn out people to become part of 'the machine' 'working for the man'. In the case of the guy I know he will be working away for Big Brother for about 250k per year in a relatively secure job with pension, medical and steady monthly salary with performance related bonus. If i had the choice to walk from an education into that I would. I agree that most degrees don't each you how to run a business, but what about self grafting and school of hard knocks plus a degree? That's going to win out IMO.
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          • Profile picture of the author AdwordsMogul
            Originally Posted by JB View Post

            I hear this type of opinion s lot from people who are making their own way online. Yes, universities churn out people to become part of 'the machine' 'working for the man'. In the case of the guy I know he will be working away for Big Brother for about 250k per year in a relatively secure job with pension, medical and steady monthly salary with performance related bonus. If i had the choice to walk from an education into that I would. I agree that most degrees don't each you how to run a business, but what about self grafting and school of hard knocks plus a degree? That's going to win out IMO.
            First of all, I'm not making my way online - I run a business and the internet is just one medium for me.

            This is not opinion - it's a fact.

            You see, the "system" makes you believe there is something like a relatively secure job - it's just a concept to keep people in check. There is nothing like that in reality.

            It's not just about the money by the way - and getting a $250 000 a year in a job doesn't mean nothing to me. All those "perks" it's all part of the manipulation.

            The more experienced you become as an entrepreneur the more you value your TIME. So spending time on something that doesn't bring me want I want is simply a waste of time.

            I know not everybody will get this because it's a completely different paradigm. Most people won't ever get it, and that's OK.
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    I reckon it could be pretty useful, but it would probably only be the basic do's and dont's but it could provide you with some very valuable information and tips so I wouldn't really rule it out!
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  • Profile picture of the author winseosoft
    The best degree you can get is from the experience you will have by implementing what you can learn from here , Steve Jobs , the best C.E.O ever didn't need a degree to build MAC , and many other succesfull people.
    Are many other ways you can grow you business or build a good one , but honestly going for a degree is not in top of my list of things.
    I don't think will bring you much , and besides you will lose valuable time and money doing it...
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  • Profile picture of the author taskemann
    A good education is the best investment you can do! Take the degree!
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    This is very interesting. I'm gonna check and find more about the details on what covers the degree.
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  • Profile picture of the author RyanNewbie
    I have been looking into getting my internet marketing degree from full sail all the people that complain about full sail is because they are doing something like "recording arts" and they can not find a job when they get out. Internet marketing seems like the best degree to get right now. I notice people saying on here how it would be better to just get a course that is so not true internet marketing will teach you a lot of stuff and I can promise you that it will not be in no jeff johnson course. This is far more than just doing SEO and making a site and putting a affiliate link on it. I have heard a internet marketing guru say that he does not believe that you can optimize social media sites but guess what they have a class at fullsail that teaches you to do just that. The fact that you have a degree in internet marketing will make you get hired more easier from a company that would want you to do SEO. Even with clients you might have you can easily tell them you got a degree in internet marketing and that is why you will be the best. There is no way in hell you could look at these posts in here and learn what you would learn at full sail. I do not get why people seem to think it is like getting a internet course reading articles
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  • Profile picture of the author loi77
    Get a coach. Learn from those who make real money in IM.

    I only use about 5% of what I learned in college.

    A college degree is merely a "passport" to get into the real world. That's where "real" learning begins.

    I was once considering a "share trading" degree. Luckily my brother talked me out of it.

    That's what he told me, "By the time you finish, you will be overwhelmed and don't even know where to start". He was right!

    If you learn everything about IM but not mastering in anything, then it is extremely hard to have long term IM success.

    IM is so diverse, so you have to focus in a small aspect and master it in order to compete and succeed.
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  • Profile picture of the author alphadude
    It is not a bad idea given the rise of the Internet.
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  • Profile picture of the author samsharen
    Internet Marketing Degree? You got to be kidding.

    Better go for E-Commerce Degree.
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