Laid Off, Again! Can You HELP?

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My Fellow Warriors -

I am new to posting on this forum. I've been more of a lurker on the Warrior, as my stats will show. I try to practice the art of listening and learning. After all we have 2 eyes, 2 ears and only 1 mouth for a reason. Like my parents used to tell me, "shut up and listen. You're not learning anything when you're running your mouth".

In the last year I have been a serious student of the IM world. I bought into the guru scams as most of us have. I've since learned better. I came to this forum after realizing there are no shortcuts and that IM is a business like any other business. I realize it requires a learning curve and hard work, and an investment of time and money, like anything else worthwhile. I am willing to pay my dues.

So far I have purchased just over 12 WSO's. Some good, some fair and some that stink. I think I've been exposed to a lot of different things in that time, but I'm still learning, a lot. So far I have implemented most of the ideas presented in the various WSO's, but I have yet to make my first dollar. I have followed these WSO's to the letter and have taken the recommended actions, but, despite the claims of their creators, it's just not doing what they claim to do and or it's taking a lot longer than advertised.

I am a person who will take action and I will follow a blueprint to the letter and then put my own spin on it when it doesn't seem to work as advertised. I know things take time sometimes, but these programs seem to be going nowhere. I have WSO's on SMS Marketing, Social Media, Mobile and WP Site creation for local markets, micro blogging, article marketing, Adsense, Video Marketing, and variations of several. I don't want to mention names and start a flame war with any of the creators / promoters. Only 1 SMS product shows promise, but will take more time to bear fruit. Fortunately these WSO's were relatively inexpensive, so no real harm and I have yet to ask for a refund for any. I consider them part of the price of admission. I did learn at least something from each, so not a total waste of money and time.

I was doing and learning IM while still working a full time job. However as of Wednesday, 9/14/2011 my personal situation has changed. My job was outsourced and I now have to scramble to either find another job or find something to replace that income with. This is my 4th layoff in 4 yrs! I have been unemployed more in the last 4 yrs than my entire working life prior. I am an I.T. Professional. This economy really SUCKS! I'm getting very tired of this dance. Usually I am a more patient person, but due to my situation, I no longer have the luxury of time.

Could anyone recommend any white hat program(s) or techniques that could be implemented quickly and economically, to help me accomplish my goal of realistically and consistently making at least $200 a day, ASAP?

I'm not looking for theory, please. I need something that if I put the program into action as described, I will be able to meet or exceed my goal very quickly. Due to my circumstance, these techniques cannot be expensive, because I have very limited funds to invest or take weeks or months. I am willing to work hard and I am more than willing to provide the creator / promoter a detailed written as well as video testimonial(s).

Please be kind here. If you can't contribute anything positive to this thread, then please spare us both the negativity and just move on. No point in kicking a man when he's down.

Thank you in advance for your help.

Steve
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  • Profile picture of the author newdad
    I am sorry to hear that you were laid off and I hope your fortune changes. I purchased Matt Carter's Rapid Profit Formula and made my first money online following the methods. It teaches you how to make Amazon affiliate sites.
    There is also Andrew Hanson's Unstoppable Affiliate course (I think today may be the last day of the lower launch price) which I have not personally seen but both he and Matt are ethical marketers and their methods (at least Matt's) do work. My earnings are still very small but as the colder months approach I hope to invest more time in my IM. Good Luck
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  • Profile picture of the author Rick Britton
    sent you a friendly PM with some suggestions
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    • Profile picture of the author buffnstuff
      Thank you Rick! I don't have enough posts to reply to your PM, but I have read it and will check out your recommendations right away.

      Warmest regards,

      Steve
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    • Profile picture of the author AnniePot
      So sorry about your situation...

      You say you've bought twelve WSO's. I think like so many newbies you have been scrambling to find the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. I agree some WSO's are of very little value, but some you should certainly be able to run with and begin to make some money. But you have to develop the mindset to select one program and stick with it.

      Contrary to some things you will hear and read, there is no hard and fast scheme to make thousands of $$$ by the end of next month. Internet marketing is a lot of very hard graft, especially in the beginning. (It does get easier with time.)

      But the best piece of advice I can give you is: select one of those twelve programs and follow it step by step. Don't give up after one month, two months, or even three. Just keep at it, and you will almost certainly begin to see results.

      Christmas is just around the corner; it's a great time of year to start developing and promoting some niche retail websites.
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      • Profile picture of the author hardraysnight
        sports betting works for me

        it can be done
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        • Profile picture of the author buffnstuff
          Originally Posted by oncewerewarriors View Post

          sports betting works for me

          it can be done
          REALLY? I live in Las Vgeas, and can bet legally. Got any good tips on any NFL games tomorrow? Please PM me if you have any good picks for tomorrow on the over and unders or points. I'm game!

          Warmest regards,

          Steve
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          • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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            Originally Posted by buffnstuff View Post

            REALLY? I live in Las Vgeas, and can bet legally. Got any good tips on any NFL games tomorrow? Please PM me if you have any good picks for tomorrow on the over and unders or points. I'm game!

            Warmest regards,

            Steve

            Seriously!? You just got laid off and you are going to gamble what money you have?

            I think you need to adjust your way of thinking before you end up with nothing.

            The best thing you can do is put all your efforts into finding another job.
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            • Profile picture of the author Claire Koch
              I second that motion. YIKES!!! That would be your worst nightmare. Promise you'll lose your shirt.

              Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap View Post

              Seriously!? You just got laid off and you are going to gamble what money you have?

              I think you need to adjust your way of thinking before you end up with nothing.

              The best thing you can do is put all your efforts into finding another job.
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            • Profile picture of the author Manoj
              Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap View Post

              Seriously!? You just got laid off and you are going to gamble what money you have?

              I think you need to adjust your way of thinking before you end up with nothing.

              The best thing you can do is put all your efforts into finding another job.
              That's a good point. I have been on and off from jobs in the recent years and the best decisions were made only when I was financially stable. Even Mark Joyner mentions about this in one of his books that one should not be in a desperate condition when starting a business. Whatever you decide I wish you the best.
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            • Profile picture of the author buffnstuff
              Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap View Post

              Seriously!? You just got laid off and you are going to gamble what money you have?

              I think you need to adjust your way of thinking before you end up with nothing.

              The best thing you can do is put all your efforts into finding another job.
              Thomas --

              That was more of a tongue and cheek response, but what we as warriors do everyday is no less a gamble than if I went down to a local sports book a laid down a $20 bet on the over and under or points on a college or NFL game.

              Let me explain...First you purchase a WSO here pretty much on a blind ad ($5 up) (gamble). If you choose to follow it's advice and take action most likely involves a domain name, roughly $10(Gamble), then hosting another $10 (Gamble) and then time energy and effort and you may not make diddly. All gambles, am I not correct?

              So please don't judge lest ye wants to be judged.

              Warmest regards,

              Steve
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      • Profile picture of the author buffnstuff
        Originally Posted by AnniePot View Post

        So sorry about your situation...

        You say you've bought twelve WSO's. I think like so many newbies you have been scrambling to find the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. I agree some WSO's are of very little value, but some you should certainly be able to run with and begin to make some money. But you have to develop the mindset to select one program and stick with it.

        Contrary to some things you will hear and read, there is no hard and fast scheme to make thousands of $$$ by the end of next month. Internet marketing is a lot of very hard graft, especially in the beginning. (It does get easier with time.)

        But the best piece of advice I can give you is: select one of those twelve programs and follow it step by step. Don't give up after one month, two months, or even three. Just keep at it, and you will almost certainly begin to see results.

        Christmas is just around the corner; it's a great time of year to start developing and promoting some niche retail websites.
        Hi Annie --

        I totally get what you're saying about finding something and sticking with it. I was taking that advice already with the SMS offline program I bought recently that I mentioned in my original post.

        The reason for the 12 WSO's was to get a better idea of what was out there in IM land, rather than chasing the "pot of gold". Starting out you don't know what you don't know. By being exposed to all of these products and ideas, has given me a broader range of ideas to choose from.

        I have yet to find anything that encompasses all of IM, so I wanted a variety to figure out the direction I wanted to go in. I have dedicated a lot of time and energy to the SMS program. Bought a domain, got hosting, setup a site, became a reseller with a shortcode and long code provider and was getting near the implementation stage. I was designing a logo, business cards, flyers and post cards as well as developing a list of businesses to approach when, WHAM! I got sucker punched by this layoff on Wednesday.

        Thus the need for the original post. Ultimately I believe SMS marketing is where my future lies. I'm hopeful I can find something that can be quickly and inexpensively implemented to generate quick $$$ to fund my SMS venture and pay the bills, so I never have to go through this horror of being laid off again.

        Warmest regards,

        Steve
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  • Profile picture of the author JSThompson
    Depending on your expertise in the I.T. field you could put a warrior for hire add out on the site or a classified ad offering your skills as a service.
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    • Profile picture of the author buffnstuff
      Originally Posted by JSThompson View Post

      Depending on your expertise in the I.T. field you could put a warrior for hire add out on the site or a classified ad offering your skills as a service.
      Not a bad idea, but my IT background is primarily Network Administration and Network Engineering. Pretty high level stuff. I knew I should have become a programmer!

      Warmest regards,

      Steve
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      • Profile picture of the author Rick Britton
        I have plenty of stuff I got for free that you can use especially if you have skills

        will be in touch

        the support in this forum is outstanding, take action on the advice and it will come

        As I said in my PM, I know exactly what boat you are in

        oh positive attitude is essential along with focussing on completing tasks

        all the best
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      • Originally Posted by buffnstuff View Post

        Not a bad idea, but my IT background is primarily Network Administration and Network Engineering. Pretty high level stuff. I knew I should have become a programmer!

        Warmest regards,

        Steve
        Network engineering? In Las Vegas?

        Forget about IM. Move to Silicon Valley.

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        • Profile picture of the author buffnstuff
          Originally Posted by fluffythewondercat View Post

          Network engineering? In Las Vegas?

          Forget about IM. Move to Silicon Valley.

          fLufF
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          I LOVE your online user name...LMAO!!! Great sense of humor! I needed a laugh and you delivered. Thank you .

          I wish I could move to Silicone Valley, I've been on job interviews all day Monday and meeting with I.T. Recruiters, uggghhh. I hope some of these ideas and ventures can get me off the I.T. treadmill and out of the rat race.

          Warmest regards,

          Steve
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    It's not enough to want it... you have to want it enough.

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  • Profile picture of the author chaseclicks
    As some have said, you could easily apply your IT skills and experience to helping others online in small freelance work or gigs. Fiverr is a decent source of quick cash for some people, although I've never used it in that capacity.

    Also, if you're looking for a solid network to run traffic with, we give all of our approved affiliates free web hosting and help getting started if you're committed.

    We usually only work with established affiliates, but if you have some reputation on this forum and are committed to your success, we would help with anything you needed to get traffic rolling consistently and begin earning. We have many affiliates on our network doing over $200 a day, and would like to see you accomplish your goal.
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    • Profile picture of the author buffnstuff
      Originally Posted by chaseclicks View Post

      As some have said, you could easily apply your IT skills and experience to helping others online in small freelance work or gigs. Fiverr is a decent source of quick cash for some people, although I've never used it in that capacity.

      Also, if you're looking for a solid network to run traffic with, we give all of our approved affiliates free web hosting and help getting started if you're committed.

      We usually only work with established affiliates, but if you have some reputation on this forum and are committed to your success, we would help with anything you needed to get traffic rolling consistently and begin earning. We have many affiliates on our network doing over $200 a day, and would like to see you accomplish your goal.
      Hi Chase --

      Can you PM or leave me details in the thread on the affiliate network you are with? I'm very interested.

      Warmest regards,

      Steve
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  • Profile picture of the author ZachWaldman
    Many of the WSOs teach great tricks for improving or supercharging your marketing efforts.

    However, if you don't already have a foundation of a good marketing funnel, most of these tricks won't make you money.

    In other words, if you're starting from scratch, you're better off on focusing on basic marketing systems.

    Nothing has made me more money than:

    1. Target a market.
    2. Survey the market.
    3. Write your sales letter based on the product they said they wanted.
    4. Create the product quickly.
    5. Promote your sales page.

    Of course, I'm assuming you want to make money selling information/software products online. For example, CPA is a business unto itself, and you can start out that way and make money. I've just had the most success following the above formula.
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    • Profile picture of the author buffnstuff
      Originally Posted by ZachWaldman View Post

      Many of the WSOs teach great tricks for improving or supercharging your marketing efforts.

      However, if you don't already have a foundation of a good marketing funnel, most of these tricks won't make you money.

      In other words, if you're starting from scratch, you're better off on focusing on basic marketing systems.

      Nothing has made me more money than:

      1. Target a market.
      2. Survey the market.
      3. Write your sales letter based on the product they said they wanted.
      4. Create the product quickly.
      5. Promote your sales page.

      Of course, I'm assuming you want to make money selling information/software products online. For example, CPA is a business unto itself, and you can start out that way and make money. I've just had the most success following the above formula.
      Yes I want to make money with info products / software. I was hoping maybe being an affiliate for other people's products, especially since I have limited time and funds to get a product to market, due to my current crisis. Wouldn't you agree? If not please elaborate.

      Warmest regards,

      Steve
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  • Profile picture of the author theomegaformula
    Hi there, Let me know if you're interested in making some money selling websites. I used to have a partner that sold websites with me but last February he had a heart attack. There's no investment and you can make a couple hundred to a couple thousand dollars on every sale. Let me know if you're interested.

    I'm new to this forum and don't have enough feedback to leave PMs so feel free to PM me with your email address and I can fill you in on the details.
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    • Profile picture of the author buffnstuff
      Originally Posted by theomegaformula View Post

      Hi there, Let me know if you're interested in making some money selling websites. I used to have a partner that sold websites with me but last February he had a heart attack. There's no investment and you can make a couple hundred to a couple thousand dollars on every sale. Let me know if you're interested.

      I'm new to this forum and don't have enough feedback to leave PMs so feel free to PM me with your email address and I can fill you in on the details.
      Crud! I don't have enough credits to PM either. I am VERY interested. Maybe you can email me using buffnstufflv using google mail? Hint hint...I hope this doesn't violate the TOS on Warrior and I get suspended or banned. If so mods please be gentle. I'm in kind of in a bad way. Sorry.
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    • Profile picture of the author Rick Britton
      Originally Posted by theomegaformula View Post

      Hi there, Let me know if you're interested in making some money selling websites. I used to have a partner that sold websites with me but last February he had a heart attack. There's no investment and you can make a couple hundred to a couple thousand dollars on every sale. Let me know if you're interested.

      I'm new to this forum and don't have enough feedback to leave PMs so feel free to PM me with your email address and I can fill you in on the details.
      I am interested too!
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  • Profile picture of the author theomegaformula
    I just emailed you both after I got a PM from JudoRick. Feel free to email me back since we still can't get over the PM problems.. thanks.
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    • Profile picture of the author internetcrusaders
      When you follow a course, stick on to that. IM is like any other business, it will need time and hardwork. If you work hard and do it in ethical way, surely you will see success in IM.
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      • Profile picture of the author Jacob Hargreave
        Hello Steve,


        I for one congratulate you on the loss of shackles. It was almost 3 years ago I was in the same position and it was probably the best thing that has ever happened to me.

        Now as to your request $200 a day is indeed possible and hopefully our fellow warriors instructions and advice will produce those results shortly. However in the mean time I would like to share with you and any other warrior looking a technique that will get them income in bursts (2 to 3 days) at a time.

        This will take some footwork (online research) but you can probably find what you need here on the forums. The technique I use now to get some fast income is list mailing. In short it is promoting other people's products to other people's list.

        Here is an instructional video of how to do it(video#3): Make Money Online

        I copied this exact method last weekend and was very pleased with the results and this can be done on a shoe string budget if need be (I used $25 to test and got 5 times ROI). All you need is a solid high quality product and a good list and you are set. If you need any help don't be afraid to ask me for assistance. Best of luck to you son.
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        Jacob Hargreave at your service...

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        • Profile picture of the author Claire Koch
          I watched the third movie but I think it would be a lot faster if someone were to throw together a book with "pre-created information" by people who know how to do well. Like recipes for example. The other guys idea about writing questions and waiting for answers from the gurus who might never get around to getting back to you seems way to iffy for my liking. John Rogers sold a product about putting together a book like I am suggesting,,,,,it had way more info in it then I'm talkin about and how to format the book where to advertise for best advantage.... lol I can't remember the name of it "elementary school marketing" or something like that. YOu might try to hunt him down to see if he will give or sell you a copy it seems to me that is just what the dr ordered and then you can combine that with your 4 minute squeezes that convert at 87% lol. You could have a sample book and the real thing "big book of recipes". Oh man I gotta get some sleep.

          Originally Posted by Jacob Hargreave View Post

          Hello Steve,


          I for one congratulate you on the loss of shackles. It was almost 3 years ago I was in the same position and it was probably the best thing that has ever happened to me.

          Now as to your request $200 a day is indeed possible and hopefully our fellow warriors instructions and advice will produce those results shortly. However in the mean time I would like to share with you and any other warrior looking a technique that will get them income in bursts (2 to 3 days) at a time.

          This will take some footwork (online research) but you can probably find what you need here on the forums. The technique I use now to get some fast income is list mailing. In short it is promoting other people's products to other people's list.

          Here is an instructional video of how to do it(video#3): Make Money Online

          I copied this exact method last weekend and was very pleased with the results and this can be done on a shoe string budget if need be (I used $25 to test and got 5 times ROI). All you need is a solid high quality product and a good list and you are set. If you need any help don't be afraid to ask me for assistance. Best of luck to you son.
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        • Profile picture of the author buffnstuff
          Originally Posted by Jacob Hargreave View Post

          Hello Steve,


          I for one congratulate you on the loss of shackles. It was almost 3 years ago I was in the same position and it was probably the best thing that has ever happened to me.

          Now as to your request $200 a day is indeed possible and hopefully our fellow warriors instructions and advice will produce those results shortly. However in the mean time I would like to share with you and any other warrior looking a technique that will get them income in bursts (2 to 3 days) at a time.

          This will take some footwork (online research) but you can probably find what you need here on the forums. The technique I use now to get some fast income is list mailing. In short it is promoting other people's products to other people's list.

          Here is an instructional video of how to do it(video#3):

          I copied this exact method last weekend and was very pleased with the results and this can be done on a shoe string budget if need be (I used $25 to test and got 5 times ROI). All you need is a solid high quality product and a good list and you are set. If you need any help don't be afraid to ask me for assistance. Best of luck to you son.
          Hi Jacob --

          Thank you. This seems worthy and actionable. I will apply it today.

          Warmest regards,

          Steve
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      • Profile picture of the author buffnstuff
        Originally Posted by internetcrusaders View Post

        When you follow a course, stick on to that. IM is like any other business, it will need time and hardwork. If you work hard and do it in ethical way, surely you will see success in IM.
        Hi Crusader --

        Thank you, and I would ordinarily agree, however desperate times call for desperate measures.

        Warmest regards,

        Steve
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  • Profile picture of the author Claire Koch
    you need to go over to ebay. Sell everything thats not nailed down and sell natural cures in the form of info. That's your desperate niche. "HOW TO STOP", "How To avoid", either take 100.00 and do a bunch of topics, on a bunch of ebay classified ads (so you can digital deliver) or do "buy now" or "auction ads" for like 60 cents each or so,,,and when the books sell throw them on plain cd's and mail them in plain mailers (you can't digital deliver in the auction section anymore). Ebay has an advanced search option so you can tell what sells by searching for "completed" listings. Just watch your competition in each section. You have to list in the info section but if your title and body of your listings have the right desperate niche keywords you will appear in other sections as well. Allen taught us this years ago when he had a special section for hosting members. His idea was free email memberships on these type of topics but that takes too much time. You could evolve into that tho. When ebay banned digital delivery in the main section a lot of the sellers went and opened their own stores online. Check it out. Search "stop smoking $0.99" you'll see just search the topics you pre-chose and get books with plr-mrr pre-made super cheap cheap. I found one guy selling on the classifieds and delivering his product on the ebay auction :About me: page. That's clever because you can sell physical stuff on auction and put a link at the top of it and say "check out my about me page for my natural cure book only $4.99". Say you find a wrinkle cream you can drop ship from the regular auction and then you're already selling your natural cures for wrinkles book on the about me page for cheaper. Better yet start your membership list on the about me page. By doing both the classifieds and auctions you get more eyeballs on you info. spread out start putting your books on kindle just use kindle type ebook designs. put on your think cap
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    • Profile picture of the author AnniePot
      Originally Posted by Claire Koch View Post

      you need to go over to ebay. Sell everything thats not nailed down and sell natural cures in the form of info. That's your desperate niche. "HOW TO STOP", "How To avoid", either take 100.00 and do a bunch of topics, on a bunch of ebay classified ads (so you can digital deliver) or do "buy now" or "auction ads" for like 60 cents each or so,,,and when the books sell throw them on plain cd's and mail them in plain mailers (you can't digital deliver in the auction section anymore). Ebay has an advanced search option so you can tell what sells by searching for "completed" listings. Just watch your competition in each section. You have to list in the info section but if your title and body of your listings have the right desperate niche keywords you will appear in other sections as well. Allen taught us this years ago when he had a special section for hosting members. His idea was free email memberships on these type of topics but that takes too much time. You could evolve into that tho. When ebay banned digital delivery in the main section a lot of the sellers went and opened their own stores online. Check it out. Search "stop smoking $0.99" you'll see just search the topics you pre-chose and get books with plr-mrr pre-made super cheap cheap. I found one guy selling on the classifieds and delivering his product on the ebay auction :About me: page. That's clever because you can sell physical stuff on auction and put a link at the top of it and say "check out my about me page for my natural cure book only $4.99". Say you find a wrinkle cream you can drop ship from the regular auction and then you're already selling your natural cures for wrinkles book on the about me page for cheaper. Better yet start your membership list on the about me page. By doing both the classifieds and auctions you get more eyeballs on you info. spread out start putting your books on kindle just use kindle type ebook designs. put on your think cap
      You certainly offer some interesting and do-able ideas for desperate people, and from what you read, there are a number of them here.

      Just a quick point - I had to cut and paste your post into Word and break it up into readable paragraphs before my eyes and brain could coordinate and understand what you were saying.
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      • Profile picture of the author Claire Koch
        yes my bad. so much info stuck in my brain from so many years on here. believe me its a chore sometimes to get it all out onto the board lol

        Originally Posted by AnniePot View Post

        You certainly offer some interesting and do-able ideas for desperate people, and from what you read, there are a number of them here.

        Just a quick point - I had to cut and paste your post into Word and break it up into readable paragraphs before my eyes and brain could coordinate and understand what you were saying.
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    • Profile picture of the author DominiquePrentiss
      Originally Posted by Claire Koch View Post

      you need to go over to ebay. Sell everything thats not nailed down and sell natural cures in the form of info. That's your desperate niche. "HOW TO STOP", "How To avoid", either take 100.00 and do a bunch of topics, on a bunch of ebay classified ads (so you can digital deliver) or do "buy now" or "auction ads" for like 60 cents each or so,,,and when the books sell throw them on plain cd's and mail them in plain mailers (you can't digital deliver in the auction section anymore). Ebay has an advanced search option so you can tell what sells by searching for "completed" listings. Just watch your competition in each section. You have to list in the info section but if your title and body of your listings have the right desperate niche keywords you will appear in other sections as well. Allen taught us this years ago when he had a special section for hosting members. His idea was free email memberships on these type of topics but that takes too much time. You could evolve into that tho. When ebay banned digital delivery in the main section a lot of the sellers went and opened their own stores online. Check it out. Search "stop smoking $0.99" you'll see just search the topics you pre-chose and get books with plr-mrr pre-made super cheap cheap. I found one guy selling on the classifieds and delivering his product on the ebay auction :About me: page. That's clever because you can sell physical stuff on auction and put a link at the top of it and say "check out my about me page for my natural cure book only $4.99". Say you find a wrinkle cream you can drop ship from the regular auction and then you're already selling your natural cures for wrinkles book on the about me page for cheaper. Better yet start your membership list on the about me page. By doing both the classifieds and auctions you get more eyeballs on you info. spread out start putting your books on kindle just use kindle type ebook designs. put on your think cap
      Claire hit the nail on the head. This is how I make $80 to $100 a day - working in desperate niches except that I use YouTube videos for traffic. I was under the impression that we couldn't sell digital products on eBay anymore, but now I understand how it can be done.

      For an info product, you need to find some good copy you can model after - and good copy is all around you. Just check out the WSO section and you'll find some of the best copy around.

      Do your research...and price the offer cheap. I can sell about 10 or more $4 products a day in just ONE niche. Multiply that number by 5 desperate niches and you've got your $200 a day.

      You can also find good PLR that you can rewrite to make it even easier. Some come with all the graphics and ecovers. Google "free plr" and you'll come up with some goodies.

      You can do it...there are opportunities all around you.

      Better, Better and Better

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      • Profile picture of the author buffnstuff
        Originally Posted by DominiquePrentiss View Post

        Claire hit the nail on the head. This is how I make $80 to $100 a day - working in desperate niches except that I use YouTube videos for traffic. I was under the impression that we couldn't sell digital products on eBay anymore, but now I understand how it can be done.

        For an info product, you need to find some good copy you can model after - and good copy is all around you. Just check out the WSO section and you'll find some of the best copy around.

        Do your research...and price the offer cheap. I can sell about 10 or more $4 products a day in just ONE niche. Multiply that number by 5 desperate niches and you've got your $200 a day.


        You can also find good PLR that you can rewrite to make it even easier. Some come with all the graphics and ecovers. Google "free plr" and you'll come up with some goodies.

        You can do it...there are opportunities all around you.

        Better, Better and Better

        Dominique
        Hi Dominique--

        That is also a good point... you took Claire's GREAT idea even further. I like it! You gals are pretty smart I must say . Thank you so much.

        Warmest regards,

        Steve
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    • Profile picture of the author buffnstuff
      Originally Posted by Claire Koch View Post

      you need to go over to ebay. Sell everything thats not nailed down and sell natural cures in the form of info. That's your desperate niche. "HOW TO STOP", "How To avoid", either take 100.00 and do a bunch of topics, on a bunch of ebay classified ads (so you can digital deliver) or do "buy now" or "auction ads" for like 60 cents each or so,,,and when the books sell throw them on plain cd's and mail them in plain mailers (you can't digital deliver in the auction section anymore). Ebay has an advanced search option so you can tell what sells by searching for "completed" listings. Just watch your competition in each section. You have to list in the info section but if your title and body of your listings have the right desperate niche keywords you will appear in other sections as well. Allen taught us this years ago when he had a special section for hosting members. His idea was free email memberships on these type of topics but that takes too much time. You could evolve into that tho. When ebay banned digital delivery in the main section a lot of the sellers went and opened their own stores online. Check it out. Search "stop smoking $0.99" you'll see just search the topics you pre-chose and get books with plr-mrr pre-made super cheap cheap. I found one guy selling on the classifieds and delivering his product on the ebay auction :About me: page. That's clever because you can sell physical stuff on auction and put a link at the top of it and say "check out my about me page for my natural cure book only $4.99". Say you find a wrinkle cream you can drop ship from the regular auction and then you're already selling your natural cures for wrinkles book on the about me page for cheaper. Better yet start your membership list on the about me page. By doing both the classifieds and auctions you get more eyeballs on you info. spread out start putting your books on kindle just use kindle type ebook designs. put on your think cap

      Hi Claire --

      That is excellent advice. It's kind of funny but I have already started with eBay and selling unneeded items already. I do like the twist you provide here. I will take action on this. Thanks you so much for this thoughtful response!

      Warmest regards,

      Steve
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  • Profile picture of the author saralim
    Contrary to what a lot of IM products promise us, it takes time (and some money), hard work, dedication and a lot of focus to make consistent money from internet marketing. The common problem is that there are so many coaching programs and most newbies tend to waste a lot of time jumping from one program to another.
    Another common problem is that most newbies dont have the right mindset;and dont treat their internet marketing like a business.
    I dont think there is a magic pill or short cut. I think that the best way for you to generate an income fast is to provide some form of service
    Of all the books I bought from warrior forum, I think Dennis Becker's 5 bucks a day is one of the best books that have helped a lot of people to make headway in their internet marketing endeavours
    I am sorry to hear about your lay offs in the last 4 years. I sincerely hope you find a way out of your predicament soon and wish you success
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    • Profile picture of the author buffnstuff
      Originally Posted by saralim View Post

      Contrary to what a lot of IM products promise us, it takes time (and some money), hard work, dedication and a lot of focus to make consistent money from internet marketing. The common problem is that there are so many coaching programs and most newbies tend to waste a lot of time jumping from one program to another.
      Another common problem is that most newbies dont have the right mindset;and dont treat their internet marketing like a business.
      I dont think there is a magic pill or short cut. I think that the best way for you to generate an income fast is to provide some form of service
      Of all the books I bought from warrior forum, I think Dennis Becker's 5 bucks a day is one of the best books that have helped a lot of people to make headway in their internet marketing endeavours
      I am sorry to hear about your lay offs in the last 4 years. I sincerely hope you find a way out of your predicament soon and wish you success
      Point taken. I know the job market most places in this country is lousy. Here in Vegas it's worse than most. Unemployment for August was officially 14.2%. That's a .2% increase over July and has been steadily rising for 4 consecutive months. Realistically it is really about 20 - 22% and when you factor in the under employed more likely 25% plus.

      To make matters worse many employers in this town are using the economy to their advantage offering very low ball pay, if you can even get an offer, because they know they can get away with it right now.

      4 yrs ago a person with my background commanded and got anywhere from $70 - 90K, with paid benefits, stock options and other perks. Now you have employers offering $45 - 50K for the same work and pay your own benefits, if they even offer any and forget about stock options and other perks. They think you should feel privileged to even have a job and are expecting more out of you than ever.

      Now they want you to have all of the latest and greatest certifications and continuing education. These cost lots of money and take lots of time to complete and none of them want to help you pay for them, nor are they willing to give the time to take classes. They think it happens magically and all I.T. people are independently wealthy and work just because we love to pay with the toys. Working I.T. in this town is like the night of the living brain dead.

      Can you tell I'm a little burned out? This is one reason I need to get out of this legal slavery as soon as I can and I'm hoping IM is my ticket.

      Warmest regards,

      Steve
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  • Profile picture of the author Jacob Anthony
    I'm really sorry to hear you've lost your job. However the nature of how you lost your jobs says to me that there is a demand for your IT skills in an outsourcing market. Why not provide your skills to those businesses who can't afford an IT dept as a freelance IT consultant. Therefore using skills you already have to help those who need it and less risk of losing what's left of your money.

    Pretty sure some people on here could do with the help!!
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    • Profile picture of the author larkykid
      Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap View Post


      The best thing you can do is put all your efforts into finding another job.
      You probably did not want to hear this, but the best advice has been given by Thomas. When I lost a job at the start of July, the first thing I did was to try and get another one. I eventually managed to get re-employed 4 weeks ago.

      This is because I have realized there is no quick fix when it comes to IM. The reason you won't have been successful following the WSOs is because there are so many different variables that come to play notwithstanding the fact the sellers will have more experience and other resources they have't told you about.

      I'm trying to do my IM activities whilst doing a full time job, because at least that way, there is an income coming and not having to survive on measly unemployment benefits. The downside of course is, you don't get as much time but this should also make you more focused in the time that you would get.

      I recall seeing a post by a warrior, unfortunately I can't remember who but it was very powerful in the sense that it will make you realize what the most fundamental problem is. It was that if you're always looking for a "blueprint" or step by step plan to follow and replicate then essentially you're reverting to the employee mindset since you just want instructions to follow. In business, you need to be innovative, plan out your own strategies, evoke your own twists. You actually already know this as you stated in your original post that you need to treat IM like any other business. This only comes from experience, and knowledge gained from the WSOs, posts and other online resources that you've read and implemented.

      I would recommend that as your first priority, is to get a job, then you can keep learning and implementing the strategies that are of most interest to you and minimizing the risk. Blast out your CV to every relevant outlet that you can. I know that IT professionals can and do make a lot of money and since you already have experience in this field, it'll certainly make it far easier for you to obtain opportunities. As opposed to trying to make $200 a day. If you haven't made a dollar yet then it's going to be far more difficult.

      It takes time to get to that sort of level, and only once you've done a lot of testing, and more than likely failing as well. Because, it's a business you're running, more than likely you're also going to require cash to pump into it and if you're not already earning from your online endeavors then you can get get burned easily. So, best thing to do right now is put your time and efforts in securing a job.
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      • Profile picture of the author Claire Koch
        this is great "logical thinking" advice... but there are "others" who have been warriors for some time who make 10, 11 thousand a month on here and they are really not anybody special and believe me their products are "plain" at best. It just takes GOOD information that is what will do it for you. Dr. Mani created so many ebooks in his days on here it made my head spin. Jason F., Dennis Becker, Steven W., he's my favorite all of his information is Good writing but he simply uses plain websites, and plain book covers. pics of him and his family. He's genuine that is another trait you will find in people who are making it online. You just buckle down and get to work.

        Originally Posted by larkykid View Post

        You probably did not want to hear this, but the best advice has been given by Thomas. When I lost a job at the start of July, the first thing I did was to try and get another one. I eventually managed to get re-employed 4 weeks ago.

        This is because I have realized there is no quick fix when it comes to IM. The reason you won't have been successful following the WSOs is because there are so many different variables that come to play notwithstanding the fact the sellers will have more experience and other resources they have't told you about.

        I'm trying to do my IM activities whilst doing a full time job, because at least that way, there is an income coming and not having to survive on measly unemployment benefits. The downside of course is, you don't get as much time but this should also make you more focused in the time that you would get.

        I recall seeing a post by a warrior, unfortunately I can't remember who but it was very powerful in the sense that it will make you realize what the most fundamental problem is. It was that if you're always looking for a "blueprint" or step by step plan to follow and replicate then essentially you're reverting to the employee mindset since you just want instructions to follow. In business, you need to be innovative, plan out your own strategies, evoke your own twists. You actually already know this as you stated in your original post that you need to treat IM like any other business. This only comes from experience, and knowledge gained from the WSOs, posts and other online resources that you've read and implemented.

        I would recommend that as your first priority, is to get a job, then you can keep learning and implementing the strategies that are of most interest to you and minimizing the risk. Blast out your CV to every relevant outlet that you can. I know that IT professionals can and do make a lot of money and since you already have experience in this field, it'll certainly make it far easier for you to obtain opportunities. As opposed to trying to make $200 a day. If you haven't made a dollar yet then it's going to be far more difficult.

        It takes time to get to that sort of level, and only once you've done a lot of testing, and more than likely failing as well. Because, it's a business you're running, more than likely you're also going to require cash to pump into it and if you're not already earning from your online endeavors then you can get get burned easily. So, best thing to do right now is put your time and efforts in securing a job.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sabiha
    Seriously!? You just got laid off and you are going to gamble what money you have?

    I think you need to adjust your way of thinking before you end up with nothing.

    The best thing you can do is put all your efforts into finding another job.
    Sorry to hear about your layoff. I recommend the following 3 step plan for you:

    Step 1

    I completely agree with Thomas Belknap, DO NOT waste money on gambling and try to look for any kind of job (even odd job) so as to meet your necessary living expenses.

    Step 2

    Once you are out of your desperate situation then try selling any service you can render online as well as offline. The fastest way to make real money is by selling services.

    Step 3

    After doing Step 2, you would be atleast out of your 'emergency situation' and quite possibly you will be able to write about your own "Blueprint to making cash fast". That is how you create your very own product and then start marketing it through all the numerous ways you have learned via WSOs and IM ebooks. At this stage you can also start building a list and market affiliate products etc..

    Internet marketing gives great results but it requires a lot of hardwork, time and money in the beginning. Therefore do not jump into it thinking that you will make a quick buck. Join it only when you have the right mindset, focus, patience and the resources of time and money to really make it happen.
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    • Profile picture of the author PCskies
      I agree with Jacob Anthony. Try marketing your skills to businesses who need your services. Do you have a website already? If so, dig for some low competition IT keywords in your local area, then build some keyword pages on your site. You'll get calls. Get some business cards made up (make sure the biz cards display all of your services) and spend one day a week going around handing them out to local business offices.

      I was in the same situation as you and kept getting laid off from IT jobs due to downsizing, outsourcing etc. How my situation turned around was marketing myself to local area businesses who needed part time IT. It easily turned into a full time job that I invented myself. It works!
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    • Profile picture of the author buffnstuff
      Originally Posted by Sabiha View Post

      Sorry to hear about your layoff. I recommend the following 3 step plan for you:

      Step 1

      I completely agree with Thomas Belknap, DO NOT waste money on gambling and try to look for any kind of job (even odd job) so as to meet your necessary living expenses.

      Step 2

      Once you are out of your desperate situation then try selling any service you can render online as well as offline. The fastest way to make real money is by selling services.

      Step 3

      After doing Step 2, you would be atleast out of your 'emergency situation' and quite possibly you will be able to write about your own "Blueprint to making cash fast". That is how you create your very own product and then start marketing it through all the numerous ways you have learned via WSOs and IM ebooks. At this stage you can also start building a list and market affiliate products etc..

      Internet marketing gives great results but it requires a lot of hardwork, time and money in the beginning. Therefore do not jump into it thinking that you will make a quick buck. Join it only when you have the right mindset, focus, patience and the resources of time and money to really make it happen.
      Sabiha --

      The gambling comment was more joking than serious, but I'm always open to a good tip. I have a friend who likes to bet and has the means to support his habit and will pay a commission to me for good tips. I wouldn't wager my own money right now.

      I am actively pursuing ALL avenues of income. I have been very busy interviewing for jobs, I set up a Fiverr account and am selling computer advice. I also have my g/f on Fiverr, she is great at proof reading, grammar,punctuation, spelling, ect and is also an AWESOME cook with tons of recipe's she is writing up and selling. I am also in the process to selling stuff on eBay.

      I have a bodybuilding site and blog I haven't been too active on due to time constraints, but have began writing articles for it as well as a bodybuilding ebook and videos to sell in the proper venue's and on my site of course.

      You guys have all inspired me to work my butt off, so I hope to never find myself in this situation again. You all are the BEST!

      Warmest regards,

      Steve
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  • Profile picture of the author m30jake
    Maybe we could chat on Skype? I'll try and help you out as much as I can

    Jake
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    • Profile picture of the author buffnstuff
      Originally Posted by m30jake View Post

      Maybe we could chat on Skype? I'll try and help you out as much as I can

      Jake
      Hi Jake --

      I don't have enough posts yet to PM you but if you do, please PM me your Skype and best time to try and meet up. I'm on Pacific Time here in Vegas.

      Warmest regards,

      Steve
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  • Profile picture of the author LilBlackDress
    Hey Steve,

    If you like, I will take a look at your sites and help you get things rolling on one of them. Also I will send you a copy of my free ebook on top methods to make money online so you may be able to get some immediate cash coming in. I will shoot you a PM.
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    • Profile picture of the author buffnstuff
      Originally Posted by LilBlackDress View Post

      Hey Steve,

      If you like, I will take a look at your sites and help you get things rolling on one of them. Also I will send you a copy of my free ebook on top methods to make money online so you may be able to get some immediate cash coming in. I will shoot you a PM.
      Lee --

      It's people like you and some of the others on here that have given me the strength to continue to pursue the IM lifestyle. You and others on here have shown me joining and posting to the Warrior Forum was the right move. Thank you so much for caring and your generosity.

      Warmest regards,

      Steve
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  • Profile picture of the author Floyd Fisher
    Steve:

    I'm going to be real honest with you.

    The first thing you really ought to do is stabilize your financial situation. That means get a job. I know you don't want to hear this, but trying to launch a business right about now is a fast track to failure.

    To do a business right, you need what is called 'risk capital' which is basically money you can afford to throw away. If you need to use that money for other things (like rent, food, or utilities), it's not risk capital!

    Once you get the finances stabilized, then you can figure out how much money each and every month you can afford to throw away...this is the risk capital for your business. You can then use your spare time and this risk captial you have identified to launch the business...reinvesting the profits to help it grow.

    I really wish I could give you a better plan than that, but there isn't one. If you read the success stories out there, almost all of them involve people who held down day jobs, launching their businesses in their spare time using excess income for the risk capital necessary to make a go of it. Kinda makes you think, doesn't it?

    Whatever you decide to do, I wish you good luck.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
      Originally Posted by buffnstuff View Post

      Thomas --

      That was more of a tongue and cheek response, but what we as warriors do everyday is no less a gamble than if I went down to a local sports book a laid down a $20 bet on the over and under or points on a college or NFL game.

      Let me explain...First you purchase a WSO here pretty much on a blind ad ($5 up) (gamble). If you choose to follow it's advice and take action most likely involves a domain name, roughly $10(Gamble), then hosting another $10 (Gamble) and then time energy and effort and you may not make diddly. All gambles, am I not correct?

      So please don't judge lest ye wants to be judged.

      Warmest regards,

      Steve
      I don't think he is tongue and cheek at all.

      I agree with this:

      Originally Posted by Floyd Fisher View Post

      Steve:

      I'm going to be real honest with you.

      The first thing you really ought to do is stabilize your financial situation. That means get a job.
      I don't think you fully understand the difference between starting a business (investment) and gambling (for fun and entertainment).

      There are smart investments you can make. And you choose those carefully based on a business model you have figured out before going and buying every WSO out there.

      If you are buying things based on what you see as "blind ads" - then yes, you may as well go and get a scratch off lottery card at the corner store.

      How hard is it to ask questions before buying if you are unclear as to what you are getting?

      I buy some WSO's because they are tools or software or graphics that I know I have a use for specifically. Those are investments into my business, and I can actually write those off as business expenses.

      Occasionally I'll buy something out of curiosity - for entertainment value only - but I know that is what I'm getting for my 5 bucks or what ever.

      Buying a domain and some hosting is the same as setting up a store on main street. You get it because you need it to display inventory and communicate to your customers. It is not a gamble. It is an investment into your business.

      All gambles, am I not correct?
      You are not correct. And it is this incorrect mind set you have now that will cause you to fail until you understand the difference.
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      • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
        I am actively pursuing ALL avenues of income. I have been very busy interviewing for jobs, I set up a Fiverr account and am selling computer advice. I also have my g/f on Fiverr, she is great at proof reading, grammar,punctuation, spelling, ect and is also an AWESOME cook with tons of recipe's she is writing up and selling. I am also in the process to selling stuff on eBay.

        I have a bodybuilding site and blog I haven't been too active on due to time constraints, but have began writing articles for it as well as a bodybuilding ebook and videos to sell in the proper venue's and on my site of course.
        You are all over the map - which is not the way to start. Focus on one thing until it converts, and then add another funnel.

        That is why you don't have time.

        Pick just one and master it.
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        • Profile picture of the author buffnstuff
          Originally Posted by Jill Carpenter View Post

          You are all over the map - which is not the way to start. Focus on one thing until it converts, and then add another funnel.

          That is why you don't have time.

          Pick just one and master it.
          That's all well and good, when you have time and money on your side. It sounds to me like you've never been in this situation and if you haven't trust me you never want to be.

          My g/f is managing the Fiverr account. I only supply the articles as requested. I am focused on several projects yes, but I'm not going to sit idly by and watch my life circle the drain waiting and hoping something actually works without trying everything I can to save us.

          Warmest regards,

          Steve
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      • Profile picture of the author buffnstuff
        Originally Posted by Jill Carpenter View Post

        I don't think he is tongue and cheek at all.

        I agree with this:



        I don't think you fully understand the difference between starting a business (investment) and gambling (for fun and entertainment).

        There are smart investments you can make. And you choose those carefully based on a business model you have figured out before going and buying every WSO out there.

        If you are buying things based on what you see as "blind ads" - then yes, you may as well go and get a scratch off lottery card at the corner store.

        How hard is it to ask questions before buying if you are unclear as to what you are getting?

        I buy some WSO's because they are tools or software or graphics that I know I have a use for specifically. Those are investments into my business, and I can actually write those off as business expenses.

        Occasionally I'll buy something out of curiosity - for entertainment value only - but I know that is what I'm getting for my 5 bucks or what ever.

        Buying a domain and some hosting is the same as setting up a store on main street. You get it because you need it to display inventory and communicate to your customers. It is not a gamble. It is an investment into your business.



        You are not correct. And it is this incorrect mind set you have now that will cause you to fail until you understand the difference.
        Well then we can agree to disagree. I am not a gambler. I have never bet my own money in a game of chance in my life and have no desire. I live in a town known as a world gambling destination and have seen first hand what gambling can do to people. Sorry that's not for me.

        Warmest regards,

        Steve
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  • Profile picture of the author buffnstuff
    WOW! Now the tone has gone from helpful and positive to a bit negative. Some of you tell me try to get a job, sell everything you can on eBay, go to Fiverr sell information, try to get another job etc. Then another says stick to one thing, focus on it exclusively get it working and then repeat. All so far good advice and I understand both view points of view and both have merit.

    I made an off handed tongue and cheek remark back to someone who made a ridiculous post about sports betting as a solution and some have chose to attack me not understanding the sarcasm in my remark about gambling.

    Let me set the record straight. just because I live in Las Vegas, does not mean I gamble for fun or profit/loss. I don't! I have lived in Las Vegas nearly 14 years and have gambled less than $300 of my money the entire time I've lived here and have managed to win back over $1,000. Mostly just on slots and video poker, when I was in much better place financially. Personally I hate gambling and find it boring. The few times I have, was just to kill time. I don't have that itch thank heaven, but know many who do and have seen all too often the outcome of those who do. It's not pretty. So please, move on from the gambling comment it was never meant to be taken seriously. Jeez!

    Warmest regards,

    Steve
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  • Profile picture of the author Rick Britton
    stay positive , keep clear head, focus on completing each task in a process completely

    full court press dude
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  • Profile picture of the author genhorrall
    I sent you a PM with some ideas. I think it sent it twice, but they are the same post. Anyway, I hope they help.
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  • Profile picture of the author sturmbro629
    I'm in the same boat as the OP. Lost my job, now my girlfriend are in a tight spot, actually facing eviction if we don't come up with the money within the next couple of weeks.
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    • Profile picture of the author buffnstuff
      Originally Posted by sturmbro629 View Post

      I'm in the same boat as the OP. Lost my job, now my girlfriend are in a tight spot, actually facing eviction if we don't come up with the money within the next couple of weeks.
      I total sympathize brother. This economy really sucks, like an EF-5 tornado. Please follow some of the advice in this thread. There is some good information here from these experienced and kind Warriors that have been generous enough to share.

      These folks have not only generously given me good information and advice, they have also shown they are good people, caring and compassionate. I feel privileged to be among them.

      Thank heaven for the Warrior Forum!

      Warmest regards,

      Steve
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