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Hi, all

I hope I've posted this in the right place, but I'd really appreciate some feedback on my website and why my bounce rate is so high. I don't think it's ever dropped below 90%.

It's been up for about 3 months with articles written by me, and for the last month I've become an affiliate of Vince DelMonte's Your Six Pack Quest, for which I already rank on page 1 of Google.

People are finding my site through Google using keywords that are taking them to articles well suited to what they searched for, yet my bounce rate is ridiculously high. I thought the load time might be a problem but I've just done some work to reduce that substantially. Google analytics now reports the load time as zero seconds, though I don't know if this is too good to be true.

I'd really appreciate some advice on this. My website is Dream Body Six Pack

Thanks in advance.

David.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kyle Oliveiro
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    • Profile picture of the author dreambody
      Originally Posted by Kyle Oliveiro View Post

      Hey David,

      I know nothing about bodybuilding so I cannot comment on the quality and relevancy of your content.

      However, when I visited your site, I was quite turned off by the design. The black background and bright blue font hurt my eyes. Your header could also use some work. I don't mean to offend you with these comments, but this is just my 2 cents.
      No offence taken. Thanks for the feedback
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  • Profile picture of the author Brendon Zahrndt
    David,

    Cheesy picture in your header.

    If you want to lower your bounce rate, add some relevant, instructional videos to compliment your pages and posts. Maybe videos that show how the DelMonte program works. Stress how easy it is. People are lazy. They want to know that they can get ripped abs while they eat chips and watch football. It is what it is.

    I understand the desire to put pictures of you or whoever that is in your website theme, but I don't know if they help you or not. I would say that they do not but I could be wrong.

    Videos, especially of you (social proof) will reduce the bounce rate.

    Brendon
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    • Profile picture of the author dreambody
      Originally Posted by dhigler View Post

      David,

      Cheesy picture in your header.

      If you want to lower your bounce rate, add some relevant, instructional videos to compliment your pages and posts. Maybe videos that show how the DelMonte program works. Stress how easy it is. People are lazy. They want to know that they can get ripped abs while they eat chips and watch football. It is what it is.

      I understand the desire to put pictures of you or whoever that is in your website theme, but I don't know if they help you or not. I would say that they do not but I could be wrong.

      Videos, especially of you (social proof) will reduce the bounce rate.

      Brendon
      Thanks for the feedback, Brendon

      Yes the photo is me and I thought it didn't look right. Everyone I've asked says otherwise, but these are people I know which is never the best for honest feedback, which is why I'm asking on here. I only added that header a couple of days ago and only put my photo on because it looked empty without it.

      It's gone now!

      As for videos - I have the equipment, I have the software, but I don't have a decent place to do them. Can't do them at my gym and they look really cheap done at home so I gave up on videos.
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      • Profile picture of the author thedog
        Hi David, like the rest have already said... it's a pretty poor design.

        My advice, hire a designer to sort it out.... if you're getting good traffic, but such a high bounce rate, you're missing out on sales, period.

        I'd definitly invest some cash into the design, $100 or so, I'm sure you could find someone on here to make you a nice header.

        Have a look at your competition... I'm sure there's lots of sites in your niche, that have awesome designs... Maybe even a video above the fold, people are lazy... so, ye, maybe a video on the left with some copy on the right.

        Good luck!
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        • Profile picture of the author dreambody
          Originally Posted by thedog View Post

          Hi David, like the rest have already said... it's a pretty poor design.

          My advice, hire a designer to sort it out.... if you're getting good traffic, but such a high bounce rate, you're missing out on sales, period.

          I'd definitly invest some cash into the design, $100 or so, I'm sure you could find someone on here to make you a nice header.

          Have a look at your competition... I'm sure there's lots of sites in your niche, that have awesome designs... Maybe even a video above the fold, people are lazy... so, ye, maybe a video on the left with some copy on the right.

          Good luck!
          Again, thanks for the feedback.

          My cheesy pic has gone now, but is the design still really that bad? It's always looked pretty much as it does now, but I made slight changes to model it Vince DelMonte's site, who I'm an affiliate for. He gets plenty of traffic and sales with this one - Your Six Pack Quest - Six Pack Abs, 6 Pack Abs, Fat Loss, Ripped Abs, Washboard Abs, Ab Exercises, Abdominal Exercises, Ab Workouts from Vince DelMonte Fitness

          I'm not disagreeing with the feedback I'm getting, it's greatly appreciated, I just want to be sure the header/site design is the problem before I spend money on it as I don't have a lot to spare right now.

          PS I have no idea why all that has come up with the website address link above. Apologies
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          • Profile picture of the author Sojourn
            Originally Posted by dreambody View Post

            I just want to be sure the header/site design is the problem before I spend money on it as I don't have a lot to spare right now.
            David - If it were me, I'd leave the theme. I'm not even so much worried about the header. I don't know what the pic was that you had on it before but if you have the content people want, they'll move around your site a bit more than they appear to be with that bounce rate number.

            What's the average time on site before they bounce? Just wondering if they're reading your full home page and then leaving or are they leaving asap?
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            • Profile picture of the author dreambody
              Originally Posted by Sojourn View Post

              David - If it were me, I'd leave the theme. I'm not even so much worried about the header. I don't know what the pic was that you had on it before but if you have the content people want, they'll move around your site a bit more than they appear to be with that bounce rate number.

              What's the average time on site before they bounce? Just wondering if they're reading your full home page and then leaving or are they leaving asap?
              I've just checked and the average time on site for the last 4 weeks is 58 seconds. The average time for the week, since I changed it, is 1 minute 14 seconds. An improvement but not one to get excited about!

              Most of my visits aren't to the home page however, they're to articles Google points them too. I'm on page 1 for quite a few of them. For example, I have an article called "is creatine good or bad for your six pack" which people are sent to when they search for "is creatine good for my six pack"

              A pretty good match between keyword and content I'd say - yet still a high bounce rate and low time on site for this page.

              Just to clarify though, I do get visits of 5 or 10 minutes or more viewing seveal pages, just not many.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sojourn
    David - I personally like the look of the theme but the layout could perhaps be enhanced. However, there may be more than just the layout that's messing with your bounce rate. People tend to leave a site because at first glance, they can tell it doesn't have what they were hoping to find.

    I'd spend some time looking at the keywords that are bringing your traffic, the page those visitors are landing on for that keyword, and whether or not the information that ties to that keyword search can easily be found on that page.

    If someone does a search for "how to get six pack abs" and they land on your home page, do they have to search around for the answers? I see you have tabs for exercise, articles, and weight loss but where should a person start? Is there something you should put on your home page to take them by the hand and lead them where you want them to go next?

    That's just an example, but as you're looking at your site layout your keywords and the behavior of visitors for those keywords might give you some clues.
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    • Profile picture of the author dreambody
      Originally Posted by Sojourn View Post

      David - I personally like the look of the theme but the layout could perhaps be enhanced. However, there may be more than just the layout that's messing with your bounce rate. People tend to leave a site because at first glance, they can tell it doesn't have what they were hoping to find.

      I'd spend some time looking at the keywords that are bringing your traffic, the page those visitors are landing on for that keyword, and whether or not the information that ties to that keyword search can easily be found on that page.

      If someone does a search for "how to get six pack abs" and they land on your home page, do they have to search around for the answers? I see you have tabs for exercise, articles, and weight loss but where should a person start? Is there something you should put on your home page to take them by the hand and lead them where you want them to go next?

      That's just an example, but as you're looking at your site layout your keywords and the behavior of visitors for those keywords might give you some clues.
      Hi, Sojourn, thanks for your reply.

      I do agree that the site lacks a "start here and go to a then b then c etc" layout but I think it's lack of experience that hinders me. There isn't really a "how to get a six pack" system on my site because I don't have a product of my own, I tried that previously and decided being an affiliate is better for me, at least until I learn more.

      As for keywords, google analytics tells me people are searching for information that matches the title and content of the article they are sent to, but still they bounce. Often after just a few seconds. I was worried at first that my site wasn't working, or that is was the loading time, but I've worked on this so as far as I can tell it's something else.

      Just wish I knew what!
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      • Profile picture of the author Sojourn
        The loading time seemed fine for me. I agree that doesn't seem to be the issue.

        I do think you need to work on the funnel. People show up, they see A, you lead them to do B, they end up at C (or something along those lines).

        I'd take the ONE page that is getting the most traffic right now and start testing the content. Maybe it's the order of the material, maybe it's graphics in that page, etc, but start making tweaks and testing the results until you see the bounce rate change. Get one page headed the right direction and then another.

        As for the header, until you can spend some money on it, maybe move the social sharing bar to the side or at the bottom of the page and decrease the font of the large, blue sentence at the top so at least that pic in your static page moves up and is more easily visible above the fold.

        FYI - That long titled link in your post up above is taking me to the sales page for the product, btw. Might edit that post so that it goes to your site again.
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        • Profile picture of the author dreambody
          Originally Posted by Sojourn View Post

          The loading time seemed fine for me. I agree that doesn't seem to be the issue.

          I do think you need to work on the funnel. People show up, they see A, you lead them to do B, they end up at C (or something along those lines).

          I'd take the ONE page that is getting the most traffic right now and start testing the content. Maybe it's the order of the material, maybe it's graphics in that page, etc, but start making tweaks and testing the results until you see the bounce rate change. Get one page headed the right direction and then another.

          As for the header, until you can spend some money on it, maybe move the social sharing bar to the side or at the bottom of the page and decrease the font of the large, blue sentence at the top so at least that pic in your static page moves up and is more easily visible above the fold.

          FYI - That long titled link in your post up above is taking me to the sales page for the product, btw. Might edit that post so that it goes to your site again.
          Thanks for that.

          On my screen the photo is easily visible and plenty more avobe the fold. I've tried sites that show how my website will look on other browsers, resolutions etc but they never seem to work.

          And the long link is meant to take you to the sales page. It was to demonstrate what I was modeling with my design.
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  • Profile picture of the author MayfairNoble
    The site reminds me of a basic text page and I am sorry to say that I would probably click away immediately when looking for a product in this niche.

    I really think you would benefit from hiring a designer to help work with you on developing a new style for the site.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sojourn
    I've got a 15'ish inch laptop and I don't see any image above the fold but on 17" I can see part of that image. Just thinking of how to add some visual appeal until you can get more out of that header. Both laptops checked using Firefox and Chrome with minimal browser space on top and at the default zoom setting.
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    • Profile picture of the author dreambody
      Originally Posted by Sojourn View Post

      Just thinking of how to add some visual appeal until you can get more out of that header.
      Is the header that bad? I was quite proud of myself making it lol.

      I have just about enough knowledge now to improve the header, what's stopping me is what to add to it. I've checked the competition and in most cases mine is as good as or even better than many that rank better than me, so that wasn't much help.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sojourn
    No, no, no - it's NOT bad! LOL! (Poor thing, we're going to give you a complex!)

    I was just thinking a few striking images of great abs might be enough to keep people on the page long enough to see what else you have to offer. From personal experience, if I was looking up how to get six pack abs, I'd expect to see images of them all over the header and your title maybe laid over them. I'm thinking color and pizzazz BUT you can worry about that as you grow. Plenty of sites with nothing but a text header do a great job at keeping and converting traffic by capturing the visitor and guiding them through that funnel which is why I think that's more important at the moment.
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    • Profile picture of the author dreambody
      Originally Posted by Sojourn View Post

      No, no, no - it's NOT bad! LOL! (Poor thing, we're going to give you a complex!)
      I already have one after what was said about my photo lol. No not really, I didn't really like it anyway, but it was my six pack which is what I thought would get the attention of people who obviously want a six pack. I think it was just a bad photo.

      I'm going to give some thought to what you said about choosing my most popular articles and then directing people to them better, the only problem with that is like I said earlier, people use a keyword that takes them to one of my articles with very relevant content - but still bounce or only stay a few seconds.

      Thanks for all the help though. I have a website, I'm on page 1 of Google, now I just have to get people to stay on the site until they buy!
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      • Profile picture of the author Sojourn
        Originally Posted by dreambody View Post

        I already have one after what was said about my photo lol.
        Well, I didn't see that one so no worries there. My comment was more about there NOT being any! (You just can't please everyone all the time!)

        The other thought is that your keywords aren't buying keywords? You'd have to match up the data again - keywords bringing visitors and the info on the page. Maybe you're bringing in free info seekers and they're grabbing what they want and moving on?

        Sales are the result of: Targeted traffic, clicking on the offer, converting to a sale.

        If you have the traffic - is it targeted, buyer traffic? If not, fix that. If it is, but they're not clicking, focus on call to action. If they click but don't buy, work on pre-selling so they feel good about making the purchase when they get to the sales page.

        That's oversimplified but directionally correct.
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        • Profile picture of the author Victor Edson
          Hey David, I checked out your site and I have to agree with what someone said earlier about it not looking right, it strains the eyes to look at the page.

          A couple factors are causing that.

          The black background with blue headers and small print all are adding up to me not even reading it. No matter what niche it's in or what content I was looking for, I would close the site and look for another that doesn't make my eyes strain so much.

          So changing your background, you can do that on your own. Also take a look and see if you can find a font that looks better on your page, and add in some red instead of so much blue for your headers.

          I'd also look for another design like also previously mentioned, because the content area is too wide. Thinner content areas are easier to read, and the easier it is for people to consume the knowledge on your page, the more likely they are to stay there. Take a look at the sales page you're promoting.. it's about 30% thinner that yours.

          I also noticed that it was recommended to lead people from the article they're landing on to another page on your blog to keep them clicking around on your site. The best way to do that is to point that traffic to your optin page where you're giving away the free report. You'll get more optins and a lower bounce rate.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sabiha
    My reaction to your site and some suggestions:

    1) The color combination is hurting the eyes. Black and white are the strongest possible contrasting colors and on top of that the intensity of blue color is adding to the pain.

    Suggestion: Make the background a pleasing blue for example #0066cc looks beautiful. Keep the foreground white and change the headline color also to #0066cc

    2) Your theme is very dull and it's spreading all over the screen of my desktop monitor.

    Suggestion: Change the theme or at least reduce it's width.

    3) You have too much content on your home page which sort of overwhelms the reader and makes him run away. And since your whole article is complete on the same page, the visitor has no reason to click any other link except the back button.

    Suggestion: Use less content and more no. of articles. Make use of "read more" links so that the reader is not overwhelmed and if he is really interested in your article he can click the "read more" link which will force him to visit your inner/secondary page. This will definitely decrease your bounce rate and will also increase your "no. of pages viewed" which is another important SEO factor.

    4) Your site lacks beautiful images

    Suggestion: Add some good looking pictures. Everyone loves nice pictures and videos they also help in reducing the bounce rate.
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    • Profile picture of the author Magim
      My first thought when I saw the site: Get yourself a better theme. There's nothing wrong with simplicity-- that can actually be a huge benefit-- but this one just isn't very aesthetically pleasing. And Sabiha, totally agreed about reducing the width.

      Additionally, I think that having some more overtly obvious links on your home page to your site's other content would help your bounce rate a lot-- particularly if it's really attractive "must-click" content, like "The top 6 things you are eating that are slowly giving you a horrible disease" or something to that effect. If something like that was prominently displayed to me, I'd probably end up clicking.
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  • Profile picture of the author aymen99
    first impression , design is no good , doesn't seem like a body building website , if you want people to have a great first impression you need some nice attractive graphics that catchs their eyes !
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  • A high bounce rate can mean many things.

    1. They didn't find what they wanted so they left
    2. They found what they wanted on the page they entered and then left
    3. The quality of your content doesn't match expectations

    You need to figure out WHY before you do anything.

    And you need to look at what pages have what bounce rate. You need to make sure your navigation is easy so they can get to other pages.

    A high bounce rate in and of itself means nothing, until you understand why.

    Personally I sometimes WANT a high bounce rate on my money pages. Because I want to get them in then send them right back out to the offer.
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  • Profile picture of the author BenKJunya
    According to Google bounce rate is the percentage of single page visits or visits in which the person has left your website from the landing or to say your squeeze page. In short, it tells how many people who arrive at your website and bounce out to another site. Stay above the fold as in the content should be visible in the user’s browser without having to scroll down. Make sure you have an easy to see and use the main menu. Provide internal linking to your readers.
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    • Profile picture of the author dreambody
      First, thanks to all of you for not only taking the time to visit my site, but the trouble to give me some feedback. It's very much appreciated.

      I seem to have a problem with the pc I use in that my website looks fine on it! It's not too wide, the font is big and easy to read, and the colour scheme is ok too. I don't understand why it looks so different to everyone else but thankfully now I know I can do something about it.

      The theme isn't the problem though, it's what I've done to the theme. It was a lot narrower but I made it wider to fit more above the fold, which seems to have backfired. I'll definitely make it narrower again and change the colour scheme etc as suggested, also I like the more obvious links and the "click here to read more" links, which I did have on my old site but thought they put people off.

      Thanks again to everyone. I better get to it!
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      • Profile picture of the author Magim
        Here's a little tip for you: When you set up your website (and especially if you're making modifications to an established theme), check out how the site looks in all of the major browsers: Internet Explorer, Firefox, Chrome and Safari. You probably won't see a difference, but there's always a chance. In particular, older versions of IE (8 and below) have been the bane of web developers' existence for ages.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bizboy949
    I would agree for a website like this, the design needs to be 'sexier.' You are selling the sexier person, but don't have a sex website. A lot of white space on the side borders would be better or a picture of two ripped people.

    Also I highly suggest a read next feature. I recommend both Outbrain and nRelate, but nRelate more.
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  • Profile picture of the author carolf
    David I am in a really hurry this am and dont have time to read all the thread, I just wanted to say I had a similar problem and there is a member here called Rosetrees.

    She is not expensive and she transformed my site from an ugly difficult to navigate site to what is still a work in progress but is looking more beautiful everyday..... and the great this is she is a good teacher so Iam learning how to do a lot of the fixes myself too....... have a look at my site and I hope your bounce rate comes down. Mine has come down from over 70% to about 25% and she elimated all the spam too
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  • Profile picture of the author warrich
    What I saw was too much text on the first page, your content seems Ok enough though it could do better on reducing the size of the headings of the posts. The user has far too much scrolling to do just to get down to the bottom of the page. Your content is well written and may have the proper keywords but like I said there is too much to read on one page. If you made the number of posts on one page less and offered the "next" and "prevoius" buttons then it might work. Also you need to highlight your keywords make them bold or stand out from the rest of the text.
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