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Hey,

I would like to explain my article marketing progress so far, then get any suggestions/advice that I can from you guys - cuz I'm getting just a little broken hearted.

I've been working at IM for a little over 2-3 years part-time now and have tried many different methods. After all of my efforts however (being completely honest here, as I would like completely honest advice in reutrn) - I have totaled, probably a little under $200, is all....

So...I began to simplify my efforts and focus on a single targeted goal. My passion and best quality would be to write articles, so I began writing and submitting 5 articles a day to Ezine Articles.

I promote a love/relationship product with a rather decent sales conversion rate and I direct link to the sales page.

I do understand that linking to a site you own, building a list, and having your site/articles indexed in google before submitting them elsewhere is all well and amazing - but I really wanted to make an income keeping everything extremely simplified for now - so I write, submit, and direct link only to EZA.

I have been working at doing this steadily now for about a month to two months, I have about 70 articles on my EZA account:

http://ezinearticles.com/?expert=Breanne_Katherine

and my Click-Through Rate for my articles is at 11.7%

My goal was to increase my conversions, earn a steady income through direct linking, and then focus on the next (upper) step - which would be my own site/listbuilding/etc. - all that good, though more complicated stuff.

QUESTIONS:

1. I was just wondering I suppose, if this process of mine is sufficient for the time being, or would anyone suggest otherwise?

2. If I do begin my own site, etc. - would I be able to use the articles I have submitted to EZA? Plus, would I somehow be able to get them indexed and ranked on my site before other directories, or are they now ruined and 'stuck' to EZA for ranking, since they were submitted there first?

See - my initial thinking was that - there is so much competition out there, that a newbie website I make is NOT going to rank for my articles keywords. So instead of making a site, I would write, submit, and generate a profit quicker if I direct linked with quality articles, a product that converts, and strived to consistenly increase my CTR.

I just wanted to get some suggestions and ideas - I would like to continue with the progress that I have been making (as it isn't bad progress, just slow and not what I had hoped it would be)

I tend to get frustrated and overwhelmed when faced with too much too fast, though I am willing to hear some advice and open to try anything that might help, and will actually work to increase my improvement a little quicker.

Thanks so much in advance for any responses! :rolleyes:
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  • Profile picture of the author PhiladelphiaSeo
    Hi Brekat,

    I think you need to set up your own website. I would create your content and put it on your own website and stop posting your unique content to ezine. Post it on your site and then have it rewritten and submit to ezine. At least this way if you could sell your site when you're done with it.

    I would also do some additional keyword research. Find products with better traffic and less competition. This will get you ranking for lesser products but then you can promote your big product as your product of choice.

    Does this make sense?

    P.S. I would also set up a facebook page and youtube page. Start promoting your stuff there as well. There are more ways to get traffic than straight SEO.
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  • Profile picture of the author Diego Hernando
    Here's another idea, check the WSO from Bryan Kumar, he's promoting a PLR package for your niche, buy a domain, modify the package with your name and details.

    Then change all the links in your articles signatures to your new domain and instead of making a commission from clickbank products, now you have 100% of the sale and your first product ready
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    • Profile picture of the author vtotheyouknow
      Originally Posted by Diego Hernando View Post

      Here's another idea, check the WSO from Bryan Kumar, he's promoting a PLR package for your niche, buy a domain, modify the package with your name and details.

      Then change all the links in your articles signatures to your new domain and instead of making a commission from clickbank products, now you have 100% of the sale and your first product ready
      +1.

      I understand where you're coming from. It's attractive to just write articles and see money coming in.

      But don't be afraid to think bigger. At the very least setup a website and start building a list. It'll take you a little extra effort but the reward will be disproportionately large, because:

      1. You'll learn some new things (site setup, autoresponder, etc.)
      2. You'll make more money
      3. You'll be on track towards building a real "bidniss", as all the hip hop musicians say.

      Good luck and keep at it!
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    • Profile picture of the author ClaireFisher
      Hey, if you start your own site with Word Press, you can install the Ezine/Word Press plug in for free.


      So, write your awesome content on Your Site and submit it to Ezine at the same time and Bam!! Best of both worlds!

      I was just experimenting with the plug in....no clue what I was doing, but I used the 10,000 rule for my blog title, wrote it in my Word Press dashboard, hit publish and submit, voila!! It is still number 2, and 4 on Google.

      Best of Both Worlds!!!
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      • Profile picture of the author jimmel196
        Originally Posted by ClaireFisher View Post

        Hey, if you start your own site with Word Press, you can install the Ezine/Word Press plug in for free.


        So, write your awesome content on Your Site and submit it to Ezine at the same time and Bam!! Best of both worlds!

        I was just experimenting with the plug in....no clue what I was doing, but I used the 10,000 rule for my blog title, wrote it in my Word Press dashboard, hit publish and submit, voila!! It is still number 2, and 4 on Google.

        Best of Both Worlds!!!
        I apologize but could you explain the 10,000 rule. I am pretty much a newbie and have never heard that before. Thanks. Jimmy
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  • Profile picture of the author relyonhim7
    As stated above, make sure you write articles to put on your main site first, then re- purpose it to spread around the net. You can also turn your articles into videos to put on Youtube for more massive exposure.
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  • Profile picture of the author tjc348
    Sorry to hear that you are beginning to feel discouraged, but keep at it and eventually thinks will "click".

    As already suggested, you should create your own blog/website. A blog is quite simple to get going and will be great for your niche. Unfortunately, all of the unique content you have posted to EZA is unable to be re-used in the new blog your create. However, good news is that you must have enough knowledge on this niche to where you can create much more unique content.

    Make sure that you publish content on your blog before submitting anywhere else. Once the content is indexed in google (showing up in google results), then you can submit it to article directories.

    Do a lot of keyword research and find "long tail keywords" that are less competitive but yet get a decent monthly search.

    SEO your blog for these specific keywords and keeping on working!

    Directly linking an affiliate product from EZA articles is not going to cut it. You have been working on this for a long time, so why don't you put all of your hard work into something that you will benefit from for a long time.

    Oh, and create tons and tons of backlinks on relevant websites. Maybe try participating in dating/relationship forums giving good advice and placing a link to your website in your "signature". Each post will count as a single backlink, so if you are very active in these forums you should be able to build lots of backlinks.

    Hope I could help.
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  • Profile picture of the author LauraJames
    I fully agree with the comments here. Get a high quality website built for you. Also, be sure and post original content to your blog first. Please note that you may have a tab that allows your website/blog to link to each other. This is just one possibility. There are definitely some good options for you regarding this. Best wishes to you.
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  • Profile picture of the author koreancowboy
    Hey, I'm about to re-launch my dating blog (and a sister blog that my wife will be running)...I would be interested in promoting your product. PM me with more details! :-)
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  • Hi Brekat23,

    I recommend building your own business, instead of spending time growing the business of someone else. You don't have your own website and aim to earn affiliate commissions from your EZA articles and nothing else, because you believe this more "simplified" approach could be beneficial for you?

    Think again. Time is the most valuable resource, and your own time is the most valuable resource for you and noone else. Imagine this:

    Say a corporation, yes -- A large group of people who develops and testts and reformulates and improves business workflow systems, processes, standards and goals for the main objective of increasing their profits, stock value, brand value and assets ---, pays you $50 for an hour of your time. That's also how this group of people value what you can do for their main objective, with an hour of your time. You're growing their business for them, in exchange for $50 per hour of your time...

    Now, for the situation you outlined:

    Say you earn 100% more of the $100/year you mentioned ($200 for 2 years, you said) by growing EZA and helping your chosen merchant market their products. That's $200/year. Say you write and submit 5 articles to EZA at least once a week. Say you spend five hours of your time each week doing this, four times a month. That's 20 hours of your time each month...

    That's 240 hours of your time per year. That means your paid less than $1 for your time. Say EZA earns around $10 per hour from CPC, while your chosen merchants $2 per hour from the traffic you funnel from your EZA articles to their sales pages. Say you stop writing and submitting articles to EZA and also stop promoting the products of others. This won't matter to EZA and those merchants. They have their own businesses to mind. Some would think this won't matter to you, since you only lost less than $1 per hour, right?

    Wrong. That's still your own time, time you could've spent growing a more profitable, long term business, a business which would've earned you resources enough to give you the privilege of not spending too much of your time on your own business, because those resources would've helped you do 90% per day, all year round, of everything that it takes to give you the life you want for yourself and your family, not to mention the opportunities you could've provided others. Think about it, man...
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  • Profile picture of the author tolxeaquarius
    Target your niche in google keyword tool

    1. Pick one that has a lot of visitors or use them in a catchy name and write the articles based on the google keyword tool research.
    2 Build a website and create 5 posts and one sales page for a blog look or create 5 pages with one blogpost.
    3 install the right plugins for your wordpress blog All in one seo or seo by yoast, google xml sitemap .
    4 try to write some articles with the targetet keywords
    5 get traffic from as much as you can do
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  • Profile picture of the author Brekat23
    Thank you to everyone who responded, all of this feedback is giving me alot to think about and decide on...


    I would like to take the advice you all have to offer, I hope you don't mind I ask a few questions from a few of you, based off of the feedback you've offered:

    @PhiladelphiaSEO:
    Find products with better traffic and less competition. This will get you ranking for lesser products but then you can promote your big product as your product of choice.
    Please correct me if I am misinterpreting this - so you are saying that you'd suggest I do keyword research to find a longtail keyword with less competition and better traffic, then build a site/blog around the long-tail KW I choose - but then promote the love/relationship product that I am currently trying to generate an income from? - Certainly something I believe I could do...

    @tjc 348:
    Unfortunately, all of the unique content you have posted to EZA is unable to be re-used in the new blog your create
    I plan on redirecting my resource box link to a site I create, though I still wouldn't be able to post an article to my site that I have already posted on EZA?

    I understand that if the keywords were to rank for an article I had submitted to EZA first and then to my blog - the visitor would be directed to the article on EZA, rather than my own site. However, why can I not post them to my site regardless? Would it not be beneficial to do so for internal link-building?

    I'm still learning the ins and out of everything, but that is what I had always thought...

    also,

    Do a lot of keyword research and find "long tail keywords" that are less competitive but yet get a decent monthly search.

    SEO your blog for these specific keywords and keeping on working!
    On the same token, when I build my site, am I trying to rank my articles in google, or the one long-tail keyword I structure my site around?

    To my knowledge, I will not rank in Google with my site or my articles since I am new to this and have no authority. There is a lot of competition for most all niches nowadays unless you enter a long-tail sub-niche, then it gets easier.

    So, do I want to do keyword research for my niche > find a long-tail keyword for my niche > buy a domain as closely resembling that keyword as I can > build a site around it with SEO, content, and list-building > then write several related articles, using my long-tail sub-niche keyword as well as related keywords to eventually, over time - rank my site/blog for my long-tail sub-niche keyword? (hopefully sooner than later)

    Is this not the correct process? Am I missing something or do I have it all wrong? I'm really not sure anymore, I have heard so many different methods and bologna that it's hard to understand which way really works and is a straight/efficient path.

    @Laura James
    Get a high quality website built for you
    Do you have anything or anyone you would suggest? Would you happen to have a link I could look at? I don't have the best of budgets to work with so something somewhat affordable yet still quality and easy to work with?

    I would still like/need a site that I can post content too, such as the articles I have been writing - do I not?

    @tolxeaquaris:
    Target your niche in google keyword tool

    1. Pick one that has a lot of visitors or use them in a catchy name and write the articles based on the google keyword tool research.
    2 Build a website and create 5 posts and one sales page for a blog look or create 5 pages with one blogpost.
    3 install the right plugins for your wordpress blog All in one seo or seo by yoast, google xml sitemap .
    4 try to write some articles with the targetet keywords
    5 get traffic from as much as you can do
    Your response was more 'direct' and to the point which helps me out alot - I hope you don't mind that I have a few questions for you tho as well,

    - These are based off of the list you had made me (thank you)
    1. "or use them in a catchy name"? - are you suggesting, (as what I had somewhat explained to tjc 348 above) - is to target a long-tail keyword in Google Keyword Tool for my niche, one that has less competition and considerable traffic, then build an entire site around that ONE long-tail keyword for my love/relationship niche?

    Are you also suggesting that I then write articles for that one keyword , though I can use my keyword 'in a catchy name' for the titles? That is what I have understood from the #1 suggestion on your list.... please let me know if I am correct

    2. & 4. I would like to go with creating posts and a sales page. I would like to use wordpress, would that suffice? I would also like to link visitors from outside sites to a sticky sales page that is primarily an optin for my email list - is this the correct way, or would this be allright to do? Lastly, why only 5 posts? Can I not post all of the articles that I have currently written, and all future articles as well - or would that be mostly a waste of time, as once I start making money with this, I could perhaps begin another site targeted around another long-tail keyword phrase?


    Once again everyone, thank you so incredibly much! With every question I ask and every answer I get in response, the closer I get to actually understanding some of this and trying to develop a strategy...I really want to make this work for me, I am determined.

    I look forward to hearing more responses, they help SO incredibly much, thanks again!
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by Brekat23 View Post

    my Click-Through Rate for my articles is at 11.7%
    Hi Bre,

    That means that out of every 10 people who find one of your articles in EZA, only one clicks through and becomes a potential customer. To put it in very, very simple terms, you're losing 90% of your traffic.

    This is one of the two biggest reasons why it's so important to have your own site, and not to try to use an article directory as your own site, as you've been doing so far.

    When a potential customer finds one of your articles by putting one of its keywords into a search engine, the last thing you want him to find is an article-directory copy, because you lose most of that traffic (we all do). You need him to find the original copy, the one first published and indexed on your own site before it was submitted anywhere else. On your current figures, you'll have ten times as much traffic, that way, as you can see! That might help, no?

    Even doubling your CTR, on the other hand (which wouldn't be easy!!), will hardly help at all: you'd just be losing 80% of the traffic instead of 90%, wouldn't you? That's why a fresh approach is needed, rather than a sticking plaster. Sorry.

    You've been trying to use article directories for their own traffic, and for their own backlinks, and this isn't what they're there for.

    The other big reason for not trying to sell this way, by direct linking, is that it's necessarily depriving you of two out of the three essentials of selling information products (and to be painfully honest, you've actually slipped on the third one, too).

    However you look at it, selling these e-book products is all about three main things ...

    (i) You have to select the products wisely: obviously enough, without getting this part right, it doesn't much matter what else you do;

    (ii) You have to pre-sell effectively (that means "not just in an article"!) to well-targeted traffic;

    (iii) You have to build a list and form relationships with the people on it, so that they'll buy on the strength of your recommendation. Without doing this, your conversion-rate will typically be somewhere between "very low indeed" and "non-existent".

    These things aren't optional: you really do need to do all three of them.

    Originally Posted by Brekat23 View Post

    My goal was to increase my conversions, earn a steady income through direct linking, and then ...
    It's really a non-starter, Bre. You can't get to the next step, this way. Direct linking isn't going to work for you.

    Especially not as you're selling some products with super-leaky sales pages, and apparently trying to rank for the words "click here" and some other really basic errors.

    Sorry - I probably sound terribly critical; please excuse me - I'm trying to help. :rolleyes:

    Originally Posted by Brekat23 View Post

    I was just wondering I suppose, if this process of mine is sufficient for the time being
    No; it definitely isn't.

    Originally Posted by Brekat23 View Post

    If I do begin my own site, etc. - would I be able to use the articles I have submitted to EZA?
    It doesn't matter. Honestly, a fresh start, doing everything differently, will totally transform the entire experience.

    Originally Posted by Brekat23 View Post

    Plus, would I somehow be able to get them indexed and ranked on my site before other directories, or are they now ruined and 'stuck' to EZA for ranking, since they were submitted there first?
    No, you could outrank them, with some hard work and some good SEO based on quality and relevance, but I don't recommend trying, Bre ... really, I think you can do much better than this.

    Originally Posted by Brekat23 View Post

    See - my initial thinking was that - there is so much competition out there, that a newbie website I make is NOT going to rank for my articles keywords.
    You're looking at article marketing entirely in terms of SEO, Bre. This isn't really what it's fundamentally about, and makes it a little difficult to make suggestions to you.

    Originally Posted by Brekat23 View Post

    So instead of making a site, I would write, submit, and generate a profit quicker if I direct linked with quality articles, a product that converts, and strived to consistenly increase my CTR.
    Trying to increase your CTR isn't the right thing to do here, at all.

    Originally Posted by Brekat23 View Post

    I tend to get frustrated and overwhelmed when faced with too much too fast
    I think a fresh start will help. I really do.

    You need your own website to try to do this and get anywhere with it. You need to promote products with non-leaky sales pages, publish your articles on your own site first and build lists. This is the minimum you need to do.

    What you're doing at the moment isn't "article marketing". It's only "article directory marketing". And it isn't working. You're trying to use directories for their own traffic and backlinks, and you're losing 90% of the traffic.

    Just "keeping it real" ...
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  • Profile picture of the author David Raybould
    I'd second everything Alexa said.

    If you do want to boost your CTR on your
    EZA articles though, I've got a free report
    in the War Room that shows you how to do
    it.

    Not that I do article marketing any more,
    and haven't for a very long time, but I still
    have hundreds of articles out there, and
    some of them get clickthroughs above 50%.

    Probably worth looking at, if you're going to
    continue on your current path.

    Good luck with it.

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  • Profile picture of the author silkstream
    You dont really NEED your own site, you just need to concentrate your efforts away from spammy article publishing sites. EZA may be one of the 'top ranked' article submission sites but when i analyze data for my clients websites the articles i submitted there even as far back as Feb/Mar are doing absolutely nothing.

    I have just started using 'Squidoo' as there is so much more scope to add media etc. And if you publish a 'quality lens' and social bookmark it straight away within a month you will have a high authority page on a high authority domain. And its free. Plus you can also earn royalties on clicks through their own scheme, it does take a little while to understand how best to structure your 'lenses' to start earning money but ive just taken a look at your articles Bre and i really believe you would reap so much more if you sow the seeds in the right garden.
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  • Profile picture of the author Brekat23
    Thanks for your responses everyone - especially @Alexa Smith for making yours so easily understandable and honest, keeping it real with me is exactly what I want/need so no need to apologize ^^^ I greatly appreciate your advice, as I always have.

    Unfortunately - all this new information I now have to do something different - is leaving me alil choked up.

    If I may - after now having read all of the advice and suggestions on what I should do, I'd like to list the process that I feel I have understood from all of you - if anyone would please let me know what they think of my new process, and whether or not I am even on the right track with it (and if this will finally work for me to achieve my dreams) - I would be greatly in your debt!

    1. Choose a hot niche
    2. Choose a product that converts well (I have yet to read through your suggested link Alexa, which I will absolutely do!!)
    3. Google tool research my niche for a long-tail keyword
    4. buy a domain for the long-tail keyword
    5. build a quick wordpress site targeted and structured to my keyword with seo
    6. set my site up with an email optin list and write some original content for my keyword
    7. then focus on backlinking with articles to sites like EZA, forum posting, youtube, etc.
    8. Hope that I eventually rank for my one long-tail keyword
    9. Rinse and repeat once I achieve success

    - Do I have this fairly correct?
    - Ughhh, I just don't know anymore....
    - Exclude that ^^^, I am just feeling exasperated


    I feel like if I were to do the process that way (which I could, as I've meddled with doing similar things before) - it would turn out the same as it has before. Whereas, my keywords never ranked, I never saw any traffic, and I never made any sales.

    Then again - I do believe I was trying to target several keywords on one site. Am I correct in thinking I want to focus my entire site, all my articles, and everything around my one targeted long-tail keyword??

    I feel like I'm sniffing along the right track here, but I still haven't found my bone - any further responses would be greatly appreciated, you have no idea - haha!

    Talk with you soon
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    • Profile picture of the author danr62
      Originally Posted by Brekat23 View Post

      Thanks for your responses everyone - especially @Alexa Smith for making yours so easily understandable and honest, keeping it real with me is exactly what I want/need so no need to apologize ^^^ I greatly appreciate your advice, as I always have.

      Unfortunately - all this new information I now have to do something different - is leaving me alil choked up.

      If I may - after now having read all of the advice and suggestions on what I should do, I'd like to list the process that I feel I have understood from all of you - if anyone would please let me know what they think of my new process, and whether or not I am even on the right track with it (and if this will finally work for me to achieve my dreams) - I would be greatly in your debt!

      1. Choose a hot niche
      2. Choose a product that converts well (I have yet to read through your suggested link Alexa, which I will absolutely do!!)
      3. Google tool research my niche for a long-tail keyword
      4. buy a domain for the long-tail keyword
      5. build a quick wordpress site targeted and structured to my keyword with seo
      6. set my site up with an email optin list and write some original content for my keyword
      7. then focus on backlinking with articles to sites like EZA, forum posting, youtube, etc.
      8. Hope that I eventually rank for my one long-tail keyword
      9. Rinse and repeat once I achieve success

      - Do I have this fairly correct?
      - Ughhh, I just don't know anymore....
      - Exclude that ^^^, I am just feeling exasperated


      I feel like if I were to do the process that way (which I could, as I've meddled with doing similar things before) - it would turn out the same as it has before. Whereas, my keywords never ranked, I never saw any traffic, and I never made any sales.

      Then again - I do believe I was trying to target several keywords on one site. Am I correct in thinking I want to focus my entire site, all my articles, and everything around my one targeted long-tail keyword??

      I feel like I'm sniffing along the right track here, but I still haven't found my bone - any further responses would be greatly appreciated, you have no idea - haha!

      Talk with you soon
      Using the article syndication method as Alexa described shouldn't require so much keyword research. Also, you wouldn't need to focus so much on long tail keywords using this model, either.

      Article syndication marketing is not primarily about ranking your site or building backlinks. That is a side effect and bonus to the method. Instead, what you should focus on is writing quality content for people, not search engines.

      Post these articles to your site. Make sure they are indexed (either wait a bit or light backlinking to speed it up), then submit the articles to EZA.

      You can then contact webmasters and ezine owners in your market or niche and ask them to republish your articles on their sites, or you can wait to see if they get "passively syndicated" by people taking them from EZA on their own.

      If these articles do start to get syndicated to quality sites or ezines then you should get referral traffic, not search engine traffic. Although you'll probably get some of that too.

      Because you are looking for referral traffic with this method, keywords and ranking do not matter nearly as much.
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    • Profile picture of the author ronaldmd
      Originally Posted by Brekat23 View Post

      Thanks for your responses everyone - especially @Alexa Smith for making yours so easily understandable and honest, keeping it real with me is exactly what I want/need so no need to apologize ^^^ I greatly appreciate your advice, as I always have.

      Unfortunately - all this new information I now have to do something different - is leaving me alil choked up.

      If I may - after now having read all of the advice and suggestions on what I should do, I'd like to list the process that I feel I have understood from all of you - if anyone would please let me know what they think of my new process, and whether or not I am even on the right track with it (and if this will finally work for me to achieve my dreams) - I would be greatly in your debt!

      1. Choose a hot niche
      2. Choose a product that converts well (I have yet to read through your suggested link Alexa, which I will absolutely do!!)
      3. Google tool research my niche for a long-tail keyword
      4. buy a domain for the long-tail keyword
      5. build a quick wordpress site targeted and structured to my keyword with seo
      6. set my site up with an email optin list and write some original content for my keyword
      7. then focus on backlinking with articles to sites like EZA, forum posting, youtube, etc.
      8. Hope that I eventually rank for my one long-tail keyword
      9. Rinse and repeat once I achieve success

      - Do I have this fairly correct?
      - Ughhh, I just don't know anymore....
      - Exclude that ^^^, I am just feeling exasperated


      I feel like if I were to do the process that way (which I could, as I've meddled with doing similar things before) - it would turn out the same as it has before. Whereas, my keywords never ranked, I never saw any traffic, and I never made any sales.

      Then again - I do believe I was trying to target several keywords on one site. Am I correct in thinking I want to focus my entire site, all my articles, and everything around my one targeted long-tail keyword??

      I feel like I'm sniffing along the right track here, but I still haven't found my bone - any further responses would be greatly appreciated, you have no idea - haha!

      Talk with you soon
      Hi there.

      If you begin your own site, of course you'll be able to submit to EZA. I suggest you don't rely on article marketing only. Try other methods.

      Don't choose hot niche (by "hot" I assume it means "popular"), choose a niche with low competition.

      Don't buy keyworded domain, buy remember-able branded domain (For example, the name "warriorforum" is not related to internet marketing at all) and SEO that domain.

      Prepare everything first. Don't forget to write your email that you want to send to your subscribers first.

      Good luck!
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    • Profile picture of the author livinglife247
      Bre you have the right idea. The steps you have outlined above are right on point.

      find niche
      get a product that you can market to them
      do keyword research and find a keyword you can rank for
      build your system?website with news letter
      Promote the home page of site to rank for 1 keyword!!!
      Site ranks and you get traffic

      Traffic > conversion/website > sales! > follow up/news letter > more sales!!!

      Its that simple! do not make this complicated!

      what you need to do is work on PERFECTING each part of the process to make money!

      You need to make a plan so your not all over the place. The reason why getting a job and going to work is so easy is because you know what you are going to do before you get there and when you get there you just do it to make money.

      You have to do the same thing for online. You have to create structure for your self. No what your plan is and what your going to do to make that money from beginning to end.
      if you dont have that you will always feel how your feeling right now.

      On this day i will do that and on this day i will do this.

      You need to get good at each point listed above.

      Also!

      what you need to get good at is on page seo and off page seo
      and analyzing the top 10 for your keyword!

      It does not matter if your competing against 34,000,000 results or 1,000
      what matters is the Top 10! thats who you need to outrank! forget the others...

      after you pic your nich and your product

      do your keyword re search

      then...before you build a site or go any further

      research the keywords you picked BEFORE you build your site
      so you can SEE what you have to do to out rank and what you have
      to do to do it!

      so when you get to work with building your website you already no WHAT you have to do to out rank someone for a keyword.

      Then when you rank for the keyword

      assuming you have done everything else right

      Hot nich
      relevent product and keywords
      nice site with news letter

      you will convert and make money! there is no question about it

      do not buy anymore ebooks on how to make money online line.

      focus on the steps above and learn about each of the steps to get to the money in the final step!

      Its not about PERFECTION ....Its about PROGRESSION!

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      feel free to PM Me
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by Brekat23 View Post

      1. Choose a hot niche
      I'm not saying you're wrong ... it's (literally) just an observation, but I've done much better with less hot niches. Paul ("myob") does very similar things to me and has done very well with hot niches, though. It's one way - not the only way.

      Originally Posted by Brekat23 View Post

      2. Choose a product that converts well
      Yes, but appreciate that it can be hard to tell. All that matters is what will convert your traffic well. Difficult to know when you don't yet have the traffic, of course. But that link above, about product selection, will at least help you to know the classic things to avoid. And that's actually more than half the battle.

      If you want to read about ClickBank "gravity", there's a one-post explanation of "how gravity works" right here.

      Originally Posted by Brekat23 View Post

      3. Google tool research my niche for a long-tail keyword
      Yes ... I don't do very much of this ...but yes: you do need to know some long-tail keywords. This takes me about 15 minutes per keyword, to "assess the competition". If you're spending a long time thinking about it, it's energy misapplied.

      Originally Posted by Brekat23 View Post

      4. buy a domain for the long-tail keyword
      Again yes, as long as it's niche-related and not product-related, of course: part of the attraction of being an affiliate is that we can change products whenever we like. So a niche with a few products available is always a plus. That way, if any individual product meets with an accident (as they can!) you have others, and/or you can start with one and add others when you have a list - it's always good to have a range of stuff to sell. You know this already, I know.

      Originally Posted by Brekat23 View Post

      5. build a quick wordpress site targeted and structured to my keyword with seo
      You think about SEO a lot more than I do.

      SEO doesn't have all that much to do with successful article marketing.

      Start off by knowing a few decent long-tail keywords and this is all you need. If you can get articles syndicated to relevant sites in the niche, those backlinks are worth a fortune, compared with article directory cr@plinks, and those will take care of themselves if you write for syndication and get articles syndicated.

      Originally Posted by Brekat23 View Post

      6. set my site up with an email optin list and write some original content for my keyword
      Yes ... you need an incentive to give away to build the list. A "free report" or whatever you call it. It doesn't have to be long or difficult to produce. Its existence serves the purposes of "getting the opt-in" and its delivery and content serve the purpose of "getting the open-rate" when you send the emails that make the sales.

      Originally Posted by Brekat23 View Post

      7. then focus on backlinking with articles to sites like EZA
      No. Article directory backlinks are close-to-useless. They're non-context-relevant, PR-0 backlinks, and Google has decimated the article directories with their last algorithm change. (As even their owners are openly admitting). You need to do better than article directories, for backlinks.

      Dump a copy of every article in EZA, by all means, after publishing them on your own site and having them indexed there, of course, because it may well help you to get them more widely syndicated to helpful places.

      Stop looking at article marketing as being entirely SEO-based. It isn't.

      Originally Posted by Brekat23 View Post

      forum posting, youtube, etc.
      Especially "etc." "Etc." is the important one.

      Relevant forums and relevant blogs are good backlinks.

      And anywhere you can get your articles syndicated, more or less.

      Originally Posted by Brekat23 View Post

      8. Hope that I eventually rank for my one long-tail keyword
      It doesn't matter much whether your sites rank. Mine do, I admit. Paul's ("myob") mostly don't. Don't look at it all in SEO terms.

      Search engines are just one way of getting traffic. There are others, and article marketing is one of them. (And article marketing can also lead - usually slowly - to some very good rankings, too).

      Originally Posted by Brekat23 View Post

      I feel like if I were to do the process that way (which I could, as I've meddled with doing similar things before) - it would turn out the same as it has before. Whereas, my keywords never ranked, I never saw any traffic, and I never made any sales.
      The thing that will make the difference to you, I think, is to stop looking at article marketing in terms of SEO only.

      Originally Posted by Brekat23 View Post

      Am I correct in thinking I want to focus my entire site, all my articles, and everything around my one targeted long-tail keyword??
      Well, to start with, yes. And add other long-tail keywords as you build. You can't avoid doing that, anyway, really. It's closely connected with what some people call "latent semantic indexing" which is a just a pompous, silly way of saying "using other words that are 'related searches' according to Google". And you try writing articles without doing that! (It can't be done).

      "But seriously" (as they say), if you take away one thing from the posts above, let it be that what you've been doing so far isn't article marketing: it was only article directory marketing: you were trying to use article directories for their own traffic and their own backlinks. Take a (very) quick look at the hundreds of threads in this forum with titles like "Article Marketing Doesn't Work" and "Article Marketing Is Dead". They're all started off by people who've been trying to use article directories for their own traffic and their own backlinks. In one way, they're right: that doesn't typically work. In another way, they're totally wrong: what they've been doing wasn't actually "article marketing" - it was only one tiny little part of article marketing.
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      • Profile picture of the author Gil Doer
        Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

        If you can get articles syndicated to relevant sites in the niche, those backlinks are worth a fortune, compared with article directory cr@plinks, and those will take care of themselves if you write for syndication and get articles syndicated.

        1. Alexa, I've read on a number of your posts to syndicate your articles after publishing them on your sites. My question is where do you direct the url/backlink within the syndicated article; back to the original article or on another relevant page within the site from where the original article was posted? As a reader I don't think I would like to be redirected to another site with the exact same content.

        2. How long do you wait before publishing the syndicated article? Right after it's been indexed/cached by Google?

        3. Since EZA is the last place you syndicate your articles do you also use DOE (as Paul endorses) as a source for relevant ezines to maximize your marketing exposure?

        Other questions if you don't mind answering:

        4. Alexa, are your niche sites straight up sales pages or are you building up content and developing your niche sites as authoritative sites through your pen names? (Afterthought: Actually I remember you stating somewhere you're building lists so they're probably not just landing pages with an offer, plus your adding your articles to your site first before syndication. I think answered my own question?)

        4. Within your various niches do you involve your pen names within "niche relevant" forums?

        5. You and Paul M. are compelling writers and obviously enjoy writing (Especially you. It seems you're going to surpass SW within less than a year.) I enjoy writing too but am limited within my desire to be creative... sooo I've been using various writing services within WF and other writing services including but not limited to Elance. Do you suggest any particular writing service that produce articles Ezine publishers would drool for? (I know you'll probably say something like "Don't expect to spend less than $25 per 1000-1200 word article for a well reputed writer.")

        Thanks in advance,

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        • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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          Hi Gil,

          Originally Posted by guamguy View Post

          1. Alexa, I've read on a number of your posts to syndicate your articles after publishing them on your sites.
          Well ... not only my posts, I'm sure ... there are threads full of successful article marketers, many of them far more experienced than I am, explaining why.

          Originally Posted by guamguy View Post

          My question is where do you direct the url/backlink within the syndicated article; back to the original article or on another relevant page within the site from where the original article was posted?
          To my landing page, always.

          Never to another copy of the same article (that would be a good way to lose readers - they'd be puzzled and think "Hold on, what's going on here? Didn't I just read this?" and hit the "back" button all in the same breath).

          Originally Posted by guamguy View Post

          2. How long do you wait before publishing the syndicated article? Right after it's been indexed/cached by Google?
          Yes, as soon as Google's indexed it, I send it out to my syndication network and then eventually to EZA and another directory.

          Originally Posted by guamguy View Post

          3. Since EZA is the last place you syndicate your articles do you also use DOE (as Paul endorses) as a source for relevant ezines to maximize your marketing exposure?
          I do, yes.

          Originally Posted by guamguy View Post

          4. Alexa, are your niche sites straight up sales pages
          Noooo, not at all. I'm an affiliate, not a vendor. I have no sales pages.

          Originally Posted by guamguy View Post

          are you building up content and developing your niche sites as authoritative sites through your pen names?
          Well, trying to, yes ... it takes time, of course.

          Originally Posted by guamguy View Post

          Actually I remember you stating somewhere you're building lists
          Yes indeed ... I'd have virtually no income without doing that!

          Originally Posted by guamguy View Post

          so they're probably not just landing pages with an offer, plus your adding your articles to your site first before syndication. I think answered my own question?)
          I'm not sure. My "landing pages" are described in more detail here. (The whole thread is good).

          Originally Posted by guamguy View Post

          4. Within your various niches do you involve your pen names within "niche relevant" forums?
          Yes, definitely, when I can find them. They're great backlinks (where they allow backlinks), because they're relevant sites to my own. And blog comments the same.

          Originally Posted by guamguy View Post

          Do you suggest any particular writing service that produce articles Ezine publishers would drool for? (I know you'll probably say something like "Don't expect to spend less than $25 per 1000-1200 word article for a well reputed writer.")
          There are lots and lots of very good writers here ... but their rates for "articles for syndication" are going to be decidedly higher than $25, I'm afraid. Writers who can produce these are mostly going to have a minimum, entry-level fee of $0.05 per word, I think, so you'd probably be looking at more like $50 - $60 for a 1,000-1,200-word article. The point is that from the writers' perspective, clients who are paying $50 - $100 for articles are clients who know how to use them, and are therefore clients with successful businesses of their own, and are therefore coming back all the time to buy more. The reason that writers who work for $5/$10 are continually advertising for clients is that their clients are disappearing all the time, because their own businesses tend not to survive; you don't see the $50/$100 article-writers advertising all the time, not because they're not here (they are, and plenty of them), but because they're fully booked. It was realising this that made me stop writing for others altogether and become an article marketer myself. I was charging more than that for articles, but the customers wanted more and more of them, and it was very obvious that they were earning far more from them than they were paying for them, and that "being the article marketer" was where the real money was ... which it was, and still is. I do still think, though, that it's an approach to traffic generation which is best suited to people who enjoy doing the writing themselves, though that's not to say that you can't build the business by "buying in" the articles, as many people clearly do.

          Originally Posted by seoblacksmith View Post

          2. If you are to begin with your own site, you CANNOT use your previously submitted content.
          This is total nonsense. It's just completely wrong. :rolleyes: :p

          This post and this whole thread will help you, but only if you're willing to read them rather than spreading misinformation.
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  • Profile picture of the author Brekat23
    Wow, thanks again for the wonderful responses!!

    My questions continue to surface however, the more I start to think about this - I hope that is natural, haha!

    When I create a site and purchase a domain for it - should I purchase a domain that is a keyword for my niche (if I can miraculously even find one) such as; relationship.com - or should I get a domain that is focused to my niche, tho somewhat of a brand name.

    Not a brand name for a product I am promoting, but a brand name for myself, my site, and the business I am trying to create? Such as; relationshipsahoy.com (random example)

    That way, I can generate traffic, and try to eventually rank for certain long-tail keywords with the content I post to my site?

    I realize you could potentially get organic traffic with a domain that IS your keyword - but that isn't always possible to get, unless I focus on something more long-tail.

    Orrr...is it possible to get relationshipsahoy.com for my site, but also get something such as howtodevelopagoodrelationship.com - and use it as a parked domain, would I still be able to rank for 'how to develop a good relationship' if I do the appropriate work of course with my marketing?

    That way I can have ONE overall site that I can try to rank all of my long-tail keywords for and not have to buy several different long-tail keyword domains and build seperate sites for each? Is this possible?

    @Alexa Smith, your replies are a blessing, truly - I hope you continue to respond to my questions as they are greatly helping me clear things up. I am taking to heart what you say about trying not to worry so much about SEO, I do intend on promoting and marketing through other various means. I feel however, that my ending goal would be to rank my site for as many long-tail keywords as possible.

    That is however, if my thinking is on track here and I am able to do what I have asked above ^^^^, I'm really not sure if it would work that way but if it can and DOES for others - that would be amazing.

    I feel so all over the place with my thinking and my questions right now - I truly apologize for that and am incredibly grateful to anyone willing to deal with my random thought-process and ignorant inqueries.

    Thanks again, X100,000,000,000!!
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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      Here is a question for you, Brekat. Do you want to rank in the search engines, or make money? The reason I ask is because, particularly in "hot niches", these often are mutually exclusive. You don't need to rank in the search engines to make money, nor does rank of itself confer convertable traffic. Furthermore, approaching any practical position in the SERPs can be a sisyphean task, consuming extraordinary resources for very tenuous gains.

      The great advantage in writing and syndicating articles within a network of targeted readers is that there is almost no competition, especially in the most hotly competitive niches. Let me explain. Look at some of the top ranking websites in your niche. In nearly all of the top websites, there is very little substance to justify their position. This is one of the greatest disadvantages in SEO; rank can be achieved by the competition without substance. It often is a greater disappointment for readers. An illustrative example is to do a Google search for the keyword "something", which has several billion results in the SERPs. A considerably slim website ranks #1.

      Quality articles distributed to quality outlets and read directly by qualified readers drives quality traffic. This one sentence is the "secret" to making the really big bucks from the most competitive (and most lucrative) niches. All of my websites are buried in the murky depths of the SERPs, beneath the entrenched keywords of the deep-pocketed competition who literally spend fortunes on SEO specialists. Using the article syndication model, one can quickly bypass heavy competition and at the same time build quality backlinks over the longer term. Thus, SEO is not the goal, but the byproduct of leveraging the real power of words.
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      • Profile picture of the author stong
        Originally Posted by myob View Post

        Quality articles distributed to quality outlets and read directly by qualified readers drives quality traffic. This one sentence is the "secret" to making the really big bucks from the most competitive (and most lucrative) niches. All of my websites are buried in the murky depths of the SERPs, beneath the entrenched keywords of the deep-pocketed competition who literally spend fortunes on SEO specialists. Using the article syndication model, one can quickly bypass heavy competition and at the same time build quality backlinks over the longer term. Thus, SEO is not the goal, but the byproduct of leveraging the real power of words.
        This paragraph may well be the watershed moment in my IM forays. I know I'm a good enough writer to do quality articles effortlessly, but instead I spend my time thinking of ways to write for robots.

        Thanks, myob, you may just have freed me from the chains of SEO.
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  • Profile picture of the author livemott
    What a pitiful girl. Writing a new and creative article every day is not a easy work. And finally, we may few boring and at my wits' end, because there is no topic, we repeat again and again. So, keep moving and challenge yourself.
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  • Profile picture of the author Zaheera
    Wow. its all too much informative discussion. I really seek from here.

    Thanks Everyone.

    Zaheera
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  • Profile picture of the author seoblacksmith
    Originally Posted by Brekat23 View Post

    :

    QUESTIONS:

    1. I was just wondering I suppose, if this process of mine is sufficient for the time being, or would anyone suggest otherwise?

    2. If I do begin my own site, etc. - would I be able to use the articles I have submitted to EZA? Plus, would I somehow be able to get them indexed and ranked on my site before other directories, or are they now ruined and 'stuck' to EZA for ranking, since they were submitted there first?

    See - my initial thinking was that - there is so much competition out there, that a newbie website I make is NOT going to rank for my articles keywords. So instead of making a site, I would write, submit, and generate a profit quicker if I direct linked with quality articles, a product that converts, and strived to consistenly increase my CTR.

    I just wanted to get some suggestions and ideas - I would like to continue with the progress that I have been making (as it isn't bad progress, just slow and not what I had hoped it would be)

    I tend to get frustrated and overwhelmed when faced with too much too fast, though I am willing to hear some advice and open to try anything that might help, and will actually work to increase my improvement a little quicker.

    Thanks so much in advance for any responses! :rolleyes:
    1. Basically, writing a content is not enough my friend.. You should look for an alternative way to earn more money. Have you tried to apply as an SEO copywriter? Anyway, If you are mainly focusing on your writing skills, you should have a blog site at least. Where you can be able to monetize your page/site.

    2. If you are to begin with your own site, you CANNOT use your previously submitted content. But you can still use them for citations. On the other hand, you can still edit your submitted articles to ezine and provide a link for your new site.

    Additional Info: Try to focus more on blogs.. try blog guesting, and focus merely on controversial and important topics. Try not to discuss more than 2 categories in your blogs..
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  • Profile picture of the author Brad Burns
    But i post some article in different site but still now i didn't get more traffic whatever i expect.
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    • Profile picture of the author Zaheera
      Originally Posted by Brad Burns View Post

      But i post some article in different site but still now i didn't get more traffic whatever i expect.
      Dear! i think if your articles are live. then you surely get response of general public. Hope for the best!

      Regards,
      Zaheera
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    • Profile picture of the author virginiad
      Hi,

      since you already have 70 articles written, you can convert them into videos...just make up a few powerpoint slides for each, read the article and record with windows movie maker...then submit them to video sites.

      Youtube videos rank well on the search engines...just make sure that you put your URL at the beginning of the description.

      Hope this helps.
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      • Profile picture of the author Zaheera
        Originally Posted by virginiad View Post

        Hi,

        since you already have 70 articles written, you can convert them into videos...just make up a few powerpoint slides for each, read the article and record with windows movie maker...then submit them to video sites.

        Youtube videos rank well on the search engines...just make sure that you put your URL at the beginning of the description.

        Hope this helps.
        Thanks Virginiad, I like your idea of Video marketing
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  • Profile picture of the author Gil Doer
    Hi Alexa,

    Let me ask another question... or three. As you described, during your first 4-5 months online you were trying a number of writing tactics that didn't work until you had this "aha!" moment or at least a general realization.

    1. What made you realize the vision that gave you the direction you had decided to take in article marketing after 5 months of strife?

    2. You also mentioned after your "moment of article marketing realization/revelation" it took you about 2 months until you hit a point of comfortable success. I understand that you write about 25+ articles per month recently, but how many articles did you write within your various niches during your first 2 months? And how many Aweber emails did you set up for your various niche lists at that time?

    Thanks for sharing again and again. I'm actually quite taken aback (in a positive way) at the way your mind works. It's refreshing. (This goes for John McCabe and Paul M. as well.)

    Gil

    P.S. My apologies Brekat, I hope you don't mind me asking these questions on your thread. I hope they benefit you as well.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by guamguy View Post

      As you described, during your first 4-5 months online you were trying a number of writing tactics that didn't work until you had this "aha!" moment or at least a general realization.
      Yes; something like this.

      Originally Posted by guamguy View Post

      1. What made you realize the vision that gave you the direction you had decided to take in article marketing after 5 months of strife?
      It was 3+ months of strife, really ... but about 5 months before I started earning "proper money" from it.

      Difficult to put into words. It was an increasing awareness of a few different things all at the same time, really. I knew that what I doing wasn't working and that clearly there were better ways that did work (partly because people were starting to buy expensive articles from me and coming back for more, so it made sense to look at exactly how they were using them - yes, I know it seems all too obvious, with hindsight! ); I knew that a small group of members here whom I was coming increasingly to trust and respect seemed to be saying the opposite to what everyone else was saying; I knew in my heart that spinning and mass-submission of articles to article directories were nonsensical, illogical and ridiculous and just sooooooo not "what you had to do"; and I knew from both the other two ways I'd looked at of "making a living from home" that success-rates at home-based self-employment were generally very low and that the widespread consensus of opinion was, accordingly, often a pretty misguided one.

      Originally Posted by guamguy View Post

      2. You also mentioned after your "moment of article marketing realization/revelation" it took you about 2 months until you hit a point of comfortable success.
      Yes, I remember suddenly working out (it was probably my fifth month, possibly sixth) that I'd made over $3,000 profit, which was "making a living" for me.

      Originally Posted by guamguy View Post

      how many articles did you write within your various niches during your first 2 months?
      Oh, countless. I was churning out 400-word "articles" like an idiot. And "writing for clicks". And putting a "strong call to action" in my resource boxes. And spinning them. And submitting using software to hundreds of directories. I did absolutely everything wrong that one can possibly do wrong. I was doing exactly the things that all the people whose threads start "Is Article Marketing Dead?" are doing. (It's confusing for them, because they've heard about the "Panda update" and imagine that that changed everything, and that that's why "it doesn't work any more". Article directory marketing didn't work before that, though, for most people. Long before.)

      I didn't really understand what an "article directory" was, at all, or why they exist: I thought it was "a place you could put your articles to try to get traffic and backlinks from them".

      Originally Posted by guamguy View Post

      And how many Aweber emails did you set up for your various niche lists at that time?
      About 10 - 12, something like that. It didn't really matter, though, because I didn't get that many opt-ins anyway, and the ones I did get weren't doing me much good.

      Originally Posted by guamguy View Post

      ... the way your mind works. It's refreshing. (This goes for John McCabe and Paul M. as well.)
      LOL ... I believe it's all the fishing, in John's case, that's so good for the brain. Paul ("myob") remains an enigma, in a sense: he seems somehow to have overcome what you'd imagine would be the almost overwhelming educational handicap of a PhD in Economics, and actually to understand all about building and running a business and making money: go figure.
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      • Profile picture of the author Gil Doer
        Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

        Oh, countless. I was churning out 400-word "articles"
        Actually I meant how did your approach to article marketing change during the 2 months after your increasing awareness? More specifically how many articles did you write after the "increasing awareness" took place for each niche? I understand that you wrote 1200 word articles with a pre-selling angle. You built trust up via the emails until approaching the customer with an offer?

        Was "Turn Words into Cash" influential in the way your approach changed?

        As you can see I'm trying to respectfully understand your way of thinking during this transformative time period.

        May I PM you some details. I understand that you're busy so I can compensate you for your time.

        Thanks,

        Gil
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  • Profile picture of the author Matt281
    I love these threads. So much great info.

    And Alexa...if you get a chance to look at my email =)
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  • Profile picture of the author Brekat23
    No worries quamguy, I appreciate your questions.

    Still had a few of my own though as well; I'd really like to put together a daily plan to work at consistenly, but I find myself struggling as to what is best and proper for me to do as of right now.

    I'd like to aim these questions at Alexa or myob as they seem the most knowledgeable in what I'm trying to start up exactly, though if anyone else can help in some way I'd certainly appreciate that as well;

    ((Alot of these are opinion-based questions, I already have an 'idea' of what I should do/be doing in the near future, but I'd like your opinion/advice/guidance nonetheless))

    (1) I'd like to continue writing and submitting 5 articles a day to EZA. I chose this because I feel it would be the quickest option/way that I currently have to see any profit.

    Why? (correct me if I'm wrong, please) Because EZA already has significant traffic. If I focus on increasing my CTR, quality content, and direct-linking - I should see better sales, as I have already made a few this way, albeit not many - but it does work.

    I am doing it this way because if I were to completely stop doing this to focus on something else entirely (site creation/email lists/etc.) I would not see traffic and sales to my site for many months (certainly not as much traffic as I am getting through EZA to my articles)

    QUESTION: Is this the correct way of thinking for someone looking to make the quickest profit online?!?

    (2) On the side of writing and submitting 5 a day to EZA, I will begin to prepare what I need to create a site around my niche and the product I am promoting. (domain name, quality articles, etc.), and build a site (probably a wp blog for me as it is easiest).

    I am going to go with seemingly everyones suggestion on here, and look into having my own site/email list/everything else - as I understand this is the best way to do it for long-term high-end sucess.

    However, in my opinion, it will take a lot longer to see initial sales and good traffic to my site (not even worrying so much about SEO, though still incorporating that) compared to EZA (^^above^^) - so this will be something I will begin to DO though not entirely do, as I still need time to write and submit to EZA.

    (Any money made from EZA will be used to put my sites together, as well. Plus, once my site is up and running and I begin to see traffic and sales from my site, I will wean myself from writing and submitting to EZA. Or, still submit to EZA, but after my articles have been indexed on my site first)

    QUESTION: Again, is my thinking for this correct so far, does it make sense and sound like it would work out if I do this new plan correctly??

    (3) When I create my site, this is how I'd like it to be (please correct me, add suggestions, improvement, etc. etc. - but mostly, let me know if I am on to something, if this would work well, and if I have this whole IM knowledge somewhat down-pat haha)

    (i) static homepage: I'd like my homepage to be a squeeze page that offers an incentive of some kind that will get visitors onto my email list. Perhaps I will one day incorporate a video to it that also promotes the opt-in. Then provide some really great content as well that explains what they will expect when they sign up and why they should.

    (ii) Beside the homepage tab I thought it might be beneficial to have an 'Articles' tab - which would more or less take visitors to the blog portion of the site where I will post all articles before syndicating them elsewhere. Plus, there may also be the traditional 'categories' and 'archives' menu along the side, perhaps some adsense, etc.

    Plus, beneath each article I would like to put an opt-in suggestion to also urge people onto my list

    (iii)Basically, I wouldn't be promoting any products on my site - I would be promoting that people sign up to my list, where I will then strive to make sales.

    Although, I didn't think it would hurt if I perhaps place another tab beside "articles' that was 'recommended products' or some such, where I could place the product and any future related products in a magazine style layout. That would be the only place on my site where visitors could purchase my affiliate products straight out (unless of course, they are viewing an EZA article that has a direct link)

    Plus, once I make better sales through my site, as I said earlier about weaning off of EZA, I could change all of the direct links to the squeeze page of my site

    QUESTION: How does all that now sound? Haha, I believe that is all of it, that is everything I have floating around in my head right now as to what would be best that I do as of right now, today - to start working on.

    RECAP: I am focusing on generating instant sales right now (EZA & Direct Linking) - while at the same time, building an awesome long-term high-end success 'business' that I can call my own and build upon over time.

    Once my site is up and ready to go, I will focus on marketing and exposure (facebook fanpage, squiddoo, youtube videos for my articles, twitter perhaps, forums, and of course SEO)

    Sooooo, please let me know what everyone thinks. Am I on the right track, am I missing something?

    Lastly, does anyone have any kickass links I could take a look at? I know that I'd like to go with Aweber for my email lists, but are there any links you can offer that have simple templates to use for wp, or anything similar, such as a checklist of sorts for what is needed and should be used for site creation?

    Thanks in advance, you are all wonderful people!
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    • Profile picture of the author Gil Doer
      I have a question from Brekat that she hasn't actually asked but I think is relevant. Can she take all her EZA articles and place them onto her site? SEO wise I'm not sure that's smart but it IS her content.

      And if you take the non SEO approach to article marketing/content marketing/syndication as Paul, John, Alexa and others within the same circle proclaim it should be fine for Brekat to have those EZA articles posted on her site?

      Maybe they'll be indexed by Google and rank higher than on EZA...

      Thanks,

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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by guamguy View Post

      Actually I meant how did your approach to article marketing change during the 2 months after your increasing awareness?
      Ooh, sorry; misunderstood you a little.

      I started doing (or at least "approaching") much more the stuff I'm doing now ...

      Originally Posted by guamguy View Post

      More specifically how many articles did you write after the "increasing awareness" took place for each niche?
      I tried to do 2 per day but didn't really manage it. I always did 1 per day. (I didn't have nearly as many niches, then, so that went a long way! I did have one niche then which I still have now, and that's become my biggest niche. And I had a few more which I abandoned with relief. But that was about the products and their poxy sales pages evidently written by "people pretending to be copywriters", not about article marketing).

      Originally Posted by guamguy View Post

      I understand that you wrote 1200 word articles with a pre-selling angle. You built trust up via the emails until approaching the customer with an offer?
      I think I've always put the first offer in the 3rd email, give or take 1 email, anyway. I send email on days 1, 3, 6, 10 and 15 and thereafter at 5 day intervals. I can't remember now exactly when I started doing that. Later than the period we're talking about, I think.

      Originally Posted by guamguy View Post

      Was "Turn Words into Cash" influential in the way your approach changed?
      It's so good that I'd love to be able to say "Yes - it really helped me at that stage". But in fact I hadn't actually heard of it until more than a year after that.

      It still helped me, though, when I did read it.

      Originally Posted by guamguy View Post

      May I PM you some details.
      Yes, but please accept my apologies for sometimes being slow to reply.

      Originally Posted by guamguy View Post

      I understand that you're busy so I can compensate you for your time.
      Nooooo, many thanks, but I don't do that at all! (It would put me under an obligation to reply in a timely manner, which I don't always manage; sorry! ).

      Originally Posted by Matt281 View Post

      And Alexa...if you get a chance to look at my email =)
      Apologies; to Matt and a couple of others to whom I owe replies. Not ignoring them, I promise ... just slow-moving ...

      Originally Posted by Brekat23 View Post

      I'd like to continue writing and submitting 5 articles a day to EZA. I chose this because I feel it would be the quickest option/way that I currently have to see any profit.

      Why? (correct me if I'm wrong, please) Because EZA already has significant traffic.
      This, in my opinion (and - dare I suggest - in the opinion of almost anyone actually making a living as an article marketer) is totally misguided and mistaken.

      Don't try to use article directories for "their own traffic".

      For all the reasons explained here. Seriously, for all the reasons explained there - I just can't put it any more simply/logically than that.

      Originally Posted by Brekat23 View Post

      If I focus on increasing my CTR, quality content, and direct-linking - I should see better sales, as I have already made a few this way, albeit not many - but it does work.
      With apologies, all I can do (which will just annoy both of us, so I won't bother) is repeat everything I said in answer to this yesterday. Even if you double your current CTR, you'll just be cutting your traffic loss from 90% to 80%. If you do it the other way (dare I say "as an article marketer"?) you'll have ten times as much traffic. And be doing something that helps to build up the asset-base of your business. The catch is that aiming to increase your CTR means "writing for clicks". Nobody syndicates articles "written for clicks". That what was I was doing in my few first few months when I didn't earn much at all (and my CTR was 38%).

      It's also what all the people who start off all the threads called "Article Marketing Is Dead" are doing, hello ...

      They're trying to use EZA's "own traffic" and to increase their CTR.

      Originally Posted by Brekat23 View Post

      I'd like my homepage to be a squeeze page that offers an incentive of some kind that will get visitors onto my email list.
      Personally, I don't use squeeze pages for all the reasons I explained here, yesterday. But they may work for you: you can know this only by split-testing.

      Originally Posted by Brekat23 View Post

      Perhaps I will one day incorporate a video to it that also promotes the opt-in.
      Good heavens - why? You'd lose all the people who, for such a variety of reasons, don't like and/or aren't willing to/can't play video. Marketers love video. Customers ... not so much.

      Originally Posted by Brekat23 View Post

      Beside the homepage tab I thought it might be beneficial to have an 'Articles' tab - which would more or less take visitors to the blog portion of the site where I will post all articles before syndicating them elsewhere. Plus, there may also be the traditional 'categories' and 'archives' menu along the side, perhaps some adsense, etc.
      This all sounds ok apart from the AdSense. If you're trying to sell affiliate products, you might not want to give people additional ways to leave your site (that earn you only pennies) rather than staying there and/or opting in, surely?

      Originally Posted by Brekat23 View Post

      Basically, I wouldn't be promoting any products on my site
      I do a bit, and I do make very occasional sales that way, but I agree that the emphasis should be on trying to opt people in, yes.

      Originally Posted by Brekat23 View Post

      I didn't think it would hurt if I perhaps place another tab beside "articles' that was 'recommended products' or some such, where I could place the product and any future related products in a magazine style layout.
      Yes, I agree ... this sounds fine, to me.

      Originally Posted by Brekat23 View Post

      I am focusing on generating instant sales right now (EZA & Direct Linking)
      I promise I'm not trying to be rude or dismissive in any way, but I'm really sorry that you think that direct linking is a way of focusing on fast sales. Even the most ardent direct linking enthusiasts don't usually recommend it as a way of selling ClickBank-type products. Well, look, there's no point in my repeating it all. I wish you well with it, really and seriously. But please excuse me if I bow out of the conversation with you now, because it seems that what I've said just hasn't really been very relevant to you at all.
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  • Profile picture of the author Brekat23
    Thanks for your reply Alexa! I've been taking notes on what I should and should not be doing thanks to your replies, so I hope you don't feel that they have been irrelevant, for they surely haven't been!

    I am trying to get a sense as to what I should do is all, for I've tried many things that haven't worked out for me. From all that I've read from you, it more or less seems like you build your online business around a positive reputation. That is what everyone online should strive for, in my opinion.

    I aim to strive for that myself, I was merely thinking that I could continue generating sales through EZA and directlinking, until I had everything properly set up so as to begin building my own online business/reputation, that is all. Once I had all that ready to go, I would then focus on nothing but that, and quit direct-linking and article directory marketing at all.

    Anyways, I have alot to read and think about here so I appreciate your time and all the answers I've recieved from everyone here. It means more to me than I can even put into words.

    Wish me luck I suppose...I have choices to make and hopefully money as well!! I shall see you all around the forums Take care!
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    • Profile picture of the author jimmel196
      Alexa, I have a question. I am relatively new to internet marketing and would like to know if you offer something that puts all of the steps of article marketing together. I have been trying to learn as much as I can but its difficult when you have to try to put the pieces together from hundreds of threads and posts. If you could offer some advise on this it would really help. Thanks for the help. Jimmy
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      • Profile picture of the author jimmel196
        Brekat23 I apologize for stealing a post on your thread for a question for Alexa Smith but if I don't ask when I am thinking about I will never ask. Thanks. Jimmy
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  • Profile picture of the author Zaheera
    Brekat23, i really seek too much from your this thread. Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author H.Miller
    You really need to set up your own blog. You can post your articles to your blog first and then submit them to EZA. No matter how much competition there is you still can build a loyal readership and customer base. You should have all your articles pointing to your own site and from your site you can link to the products you are promoting. You can make money direct linking but you can make more if you have your own site that people can always go to to get valuable information.
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