How valuable is a PR3 domain?

Thanks so much for the help guys. I don't know if this means much but I went to this site How Much Is Your Site Worth? | URLAppraisal.net to estimate the value of the domain and it says $2900. I thought that was a pretty crazy number, but I think im going to add some content to it get it ranked pretty high in SE's and flip it.

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DireStraits

13 years ago

Originally Posted by jjwantmoney

Thanks so much for the help guys. I don't know if this means much but I went to this site How Much Is Your Site Worth? | URLAppraisal.net to estimate the value of the domain and it says $2900. I thought that was a pretty crazy number, but I think im going to add some content to it get it ranked pretty high in SE's and flip it.

Thanks for the help!

Hi,

(1) I would not place much faith in the automatic valuation offered by the site you mentioned above, or any like them: they're really useless. And not just slightly so, either.

(2) Domains and sites don't have PR; individual URLs/pages have PR, so if your domain is PR-3, what you're really saying is that your homepage/root URL is a PR-3 - that's all.

(3) If the domain is simply a redirect of the type you describe, you might very well find that its PR vanishes soon, perhaps with the next update?

(4) Are you sure the PR value displayed isn't actually of the destination URL to which your domain redirects? Not so long back (not sure if it continues?) some people were making a lot of money via a sneaky practice known as "PR spoofing" that entailed the use of redirects.

(5) All else aside, don't expect a PageRank of 3 to add much value to the domain above reg-fee, anyway. Unless the domain itself is intrinsically desirable, my guess is you might get about $60 for it, unless it's actually generating some income already. You might possibly want to search the forum, as I've seen people here mention in the past that they're always on the lookout for domains with existing PR for their backlinking networks, etc.

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jjwantmoney 13 years ago

Well I compared the other domains that I have redirected to other affiliate offers and It seems My domain really is a PR 3. And yes I have made quite a bit of money with this domain as the offer I am promoting was converting insanely before. The sales have slowed down alot in the past few weeks however.

I still have targeted traffic coming to the domain so I think what I am going to do is setup a wordpress site, get lots of quality content to it, get it ranked in google and flip it, because I can use the cash!.

Thanks for the input here guys.
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Mary Wilhite

13 years ago

Yes, that's a much better plan than just offering the domain.

With contents and a high google search placement, you'll be able
to sell it higher.

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Mike McLeod

13 years ago

You can rank it in Google and flip for min. 2k

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jjwantmoney

13 years ago

Wow I love hearing that. I don't have much experience with flippa or any other flipping sites. Maybe I need to pick up a guide. I think I can get it ranked pretty quickly in google. I'd love to flip it for 2k if possible! Thanks!

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signline 13 years ago

Hi,

PR3 domain really worth for seo because theses are the average domain who approved the links very quickly!
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jjwantmoney

13 years ago

I can't decide if I wanna add great content and flip it or Keep the domain and get ranked for many keywords in this GREAT niche and make money this way. I will do some research and decide what to do!

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Michael Rytter

13 years ago

On the same topic, with a slight twist...I have an MU site (multisite) where the main site and about 5 out of the 10 subsites fluctuate between PR2's and PR3's. This whole site has died down due to lack of attention, so it gets next to NO traffic, but the PR still seems to stick. In my mind this would seem to mean that PR at that level means nothing.. is even actually valueless? ...Or not? The site is showyourwood.com (No, it is NOT what some of you might be thinking! (LOL!) It was a site where woodworkers put up blogs to show off their projects!) Sort of like lumberjocks.com, a successful site that I wanted to emulate, but... I sort of lost interest a couple years ago and showyourwood.com just fell by the wayside..

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terryd

13 years ago

Those URL appraisal sites are a waste of time and just boost you ego more than anything else.

A P3 domain can be purchased for $20-$60 depending on the strength of the backlinks and whether or not it's been dropped or not.

The only way you could flip it for 2k is by making sure it produces regular monthly income, the PR3 alone won't even get you close.....

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sbucciarel

Banned 13 years ago

Originally Posted by jjwantmoney

What I do is simply buy domains and redirect them to affiliate sites in some cases masking the URL. It's worked well for me.

I was doing some research on one of my domains and noticed that one of my domains has a PR 3 . I have no content on the domain, some consistent traffic and just redirect it to an affiliate. Can this domain be sold? If so for how much?

If you redirect a domain to a PR 3 site, the domain will record a fake pagerank of 3. This will not in fact be an accurate pagerank.

Automated estimating sites are worthless. They cannot accurately appraise a domain.

http://www.seomastering.com/fake-pagerank-checker.php

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jjwantmoney

13 years ago

No thats not true because as I've said before I have other domains that are forwarded to affiliate offers on Clickbank that have high PR but my domain is PR 0.

So therefore you are wrong when you say that redirecting a domain will record a fake PR.

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sbucciarel

Banned 13 years ago

Originally Posted by jjwantmoney

No thats not true because as I've said before I have other domains that are forwarded to affiliate offers on Clickbank that have high PR but my domain is PR 0.

So therefore you are wrong when you say that redirecting a domain will record a fake PR.

Therefore I am not wrong
What is Fake Page Rank?

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Mike Tyler

13 years ago

It comes down to how much people want to offer for it. But did you just redirect the domain to the affiliate website itself? Then maybe the pagerank is spoofed meaning that as soon you un-redirect the domain it will go back to old 0 in PR. But in theory, a healthy PR 3 domain with content is often sold for huge numbers because it takes time to build PR.

Mike Tyler.

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jjwantmoney

13 years ago

Well if this PR is spoofed its the only one thats spoofed, cuz all my other domains have PR that are redircted to CB sites that have PR.

So for some odd reason this is the only one thats spoofed. I've had this domain for over 2 years, have quality backlinks to it and those backlinks have many blacklinks to it.. all from HIGH PR backlinks.

It seems to me that if spoofing was an issue here, my OTHER redirected domains would also report the same PR as the page it redirects too.. IT DOESN'T. This CLEARLY tells me that my domain infact IS a PR 3 regardless of what is posted on some other site.

But for arguments sake I will redirect it to a similar product now on clickbank. A less popular product with a much lower page rank (if it has a PR at all) and see if my domain remains PR 3

I'll report when its finished

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sbucciarel

Banned 13 years ago

Originally Posted by jjwantmoney

But for arguments sake I will redirect it to a similar product now on clickbank. A less popular product with a much lower page rank (if it has a PR at all) and see if my domain remains PR 3

I'll report when its finished

Just run the domain through a fake pr checker

Fake PageRank Checker

RankChecker - Check Fake PageRank (PR), Alexa, and SEO Details

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jjwantmoney

13 years ago

Ok.. I have finished. I redirected to another product in the same niche. This product is PR 2. I loaded up my Market Samuarai. The domain I am redirecting to is PR 2. The Domain I am using REMAINS A PR3.

So therefore there is no spoofing going on here. If there was spoofing going on MS would have reported my new redirect PR 2. But it did not. Is this not correct? This tells me that I have a legit PR 3 domain and I'm happy about it!!!

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sbucciarel

Banned 13 years ago

Originally Posted by jjwantmoney

Ok.. I have finished. I redirected to another product in the same niche. This product is PR 2. I loaded up my Market Samuarai. The domain I am redirecting to is PR 2. The Domain I am using REMAINS A PR3.

So therefore there is no spoofing going on here. If there was spoofing going on MS would have reported my new redirect PR 2. But it did not. Is this not correct? This tells me that I have a legit PR 3 domain and I'm happy about it!!!

It takes weeks for the pagerank to change. Do you think it is instantaneous? Like I said, run it through the Fake Pr checkers I linked to.

Just be aware that a smart buyer will run it through the fake PR checkers before putting down any money.

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DireStraits

13 years ago

Originally Posted by jjwantmoney

Ok.. I have finished. I redirected to another product in the same niche. This product is PR 2. I loaded up my Market Samuarai. The domain I am redirecting to is PR 2. The Domain I am using REMAINS A PR3.

So therefore there is no spoofing going on here. If there was spoofing going on MS would have reported my new redirect PR 2. But it did not. Is this not correct? This tells me that I have a legit PR 3 domain and I'm happy about it!!!

Not necessarily. PR spoofing relied on Google performing a PR update before the "spoof domain" would absorb and reflect the PR of the domain/URL to which it's redirected.

However, if the PR validators report no issues, you should be okay.

I think you're perhaps slightly (read: greatly) overestimating the role of PR in your site's valuation, however. As has been said already, a PR of 3 (or higher) won't bestow much additional value upon your domain. The biggest part of that is coming from plain old desirability and/or existing revenues. These are the things that truly matter to a serious buyer.

You may also be overestimating its role in your site's ranking potential, too. Just because your homepage is PR-3, it doesn't mean that if you slap up some keyword-optimised content at that URL and manage to retain that PR value in the process (which you'll only know come the next update), you'll necessarily rank higher than any other sites' lower PR pages competing for the same keyword(s). Lower PR pages can and very often do outrank ones with a higher PR. That's just how it works, I'm afraid.

As far as I see it, you have two options:

(1) Validate the authenticity of the PR, then attempt to sell it to someone who'll offer you (perhaps) around $60 purely for the PageRank, for use as part of their backlinking network or whatever.

(2) Scrap that idea and build a site out on the domain, hopefully retaining the PageRank. It might give you a slight advantage when it comes to attempting to rank for your chosen keywords, or it might not. Maybe you'll come to generate more income from it, and decide to keep it. Worst comes to the worst, you can always sell it later, and who knows, if you've conducted some SEO on it, you might end up with an even higher PR by then and be able to sell that domain for slightly more.

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jjwantmoney

13 years ago

All the fake pagerank checker does is check to see if the site is redirected. Guess what it is! Also the other sites that I have redirected as I mention before. Which has been redirected for many months, do not share the same PR as the sire its directed to.

According to my Market Samurai you are wrong.Thanks for your help I really appreciate it, but it just seems like you are wrong.

I told you I'm a lazy marketer. I write articles, backlink the articles using only high PR backlinks, buy domains and redirect them to affiliate offers. So if one domain is spoofed THEY ALL WOULD BE. And this is just not the case. But again thank for your all your help. This is why I love this place. It is a goldmine for information.

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sbucciarel Banned 13 years ago

Originally Posted by jjwantmoney

All the fake pagerank checker does is check to see if the site is redirected.

If you don't trust the fake PR checkers, do this:

Detect Fake Pagerank

To detect Fake Pagerank, simply type in the webpage, such as sitewithfakepr.com into Google's search and look at the cache. The cache will not be that of the site with Fake PR, it will be the site with the actual PR.

Fake PR Example

Here is a site that fakes their Pagerank: www.pr10.darkseoteam.com and they also include examples of Fake PR 10, Fake PR9, Fake PR8 and more. Notice how the cache is of Google.com and not www.pr10.darkseoteam.com? Try it for yourself, put www.pr10.darkseoteam.com into the search field of Google and see the results for yourself.

Fake PR - Faking Pagerank
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jjwantmoney

13 years ago

Thanks dire. I will be opting for option 2. I have good targeted traffic coming to this page now, Im going to hire some writers to write excellent content for me, start collecting email addresses, offer a free report, and keep hitting it with very high PR do follow backlinks.

This has taught me alot about how to get a page to gain high PR. Now in the future all my domains will gain in PR.

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lelooman

13 years ago

i can worth 0$ if the website has that pagerank due to spammy activity! a buyer will look for your website backlinks... and he can get a conclusion regarding the pagerank of your website!

usually ..yes... you can get 50$ for a website without traffic!

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RatRaceWatch

13 years ago

Lol Sbucciarel is right.... if you think your PR is going to instantly change, you have a lot to learn about how website ranking works, and when and how google determines page rank.

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Fed

13 years ago

Most of them are doing like 15x of your original monthly income from that blog, PR3 domain name is def worth 2k+ may be more than that.

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DireStraits 13 years ago

Originally Posted by Fed

[...] PR3 domain name is def worth 2k+ may be more than that.

What a load of rubbish. :rolleyes:
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victor9011

13 years ago

I have three PR3 proxy sites and I can't earn money from selling links. No one wants to buy links on them!

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abubakar89

13 years ago

Build a wordpress site rank it and then flip it ....... In this way you can make good amount $$$$$

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obrain

13 years ago

You just create a website using this domain than sell it this will be better for increase your domain amount for sale.

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budin 13 years ago

I think it's all depends on how much traffic you get, that's much more important that just a PR.
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Tim Franklin

13 years ago

You know Page rank, PR, is really not worth much at all, in fact google has even discounted its value, PR is the walking dead, in the SEO world, in fact just the other day I located a PR4 webpage, which was created in 1999, (looked it too) it had a pink page background posted by a teacher, it was a .net domain name, with one page that had not been updated in 2 years, it had incomplete data on the domain, and it was ranked as a PR4?

That tells me one very clear thing, PR is DEAD.

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lalithk 13 years ago

PR 3 domains go for around $30 to $50 these days.
PR 4 is worth between $80 and $100.
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- FredJones 13 years ago
  
  Between the time I clicked on the thread title and the thread loaded (which was pretty not too slow - took maybe a couple of seconds), I think I thought of 5+ different things about how to determine the value of PR 3+ domain. But now that I am here, I see what your question is.
  
  Here are some possible answers - the first 5 that case to my mind - there are a few more in my mind but these 5 should be enough to get you started.
  
  1. Sell it off for $50-$60-whatever-you-can-manage.
  2. Add to co-ops. For example, add to Authority Link Network. This gives you a decent membership.
  3. Sell blogroll links at a membership of $2 per month per link restricted to say 30-50 people.
  4. Use this as a link exchange program for your other domains (tradde links with other directories).
  5. USe this TLD at your well-viewed EZA (if you have any) and then redirect it to your affiliate link (the PR is immaterial in this case, so this may not be a great use) - this way your EZA->sales drops one off and may pay off.
  
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  lalithk 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by SEOXperD
  
  Someone has replied above only domain price is $50 and you were saying its just 30 to 50$ with PR3. What is PR8 domain price for you?
  
  I haven't bought any. Yet
  
  For PR6, I've paid $1,200.
  
  The exponent of 'linking power' is 5x per PR rise, but of course you know that.
  
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sbucciarel

Banned 13 years ago

Originally Posted by Tim Franklin

You know Page rank, PR, is really not worth much at all, in fact google has even discounted its value, PR is the walking dead, in the SEO world, in fact just the other day I located a PR4 webpage, which was created in 1999, (looked it too) it had a pink page background posted by a teacher, it was a .net domain name, with one page that had not been updated in 2 years, it had incomplete data on the domain, and it was ranked as a PR4?

That tells me one very clear thing, PR is DEAD.

Quite right ... and fake or spoofed pagerank is even deader. This is fake pagerank, as I've mentioned above.

One of the biggest scams on Flippa is selling fake pagerank domains, which of course the pagerank soon disappears after someone purchases the domain. By the next time Google changes pagerank ... it's gone unless you are buying the site or pages that got pagerank along with the domain.

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collegequest

13 years ago

Lots of Warriors already replied in the thread...I just wanted to mention few points which decides domain cost:-
Domain Name:- Keyword Reach or brandable domain name obviously cost more than a junk name. if you are selling short domain name having 3 or 4 characters only...it may worth in thousands dollar.
Backlinks:- Obviously domain having huge backlinks will cost more
TLD:- .com has more reseller value than other domain extensions like .net or .info
Niche:- Finance, Pet Meds or Real Estate domains cost more than Arts or travel related domain....these are high paying niche.

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uron1000

12 years ago

I registered a domain like 30 days ago to the date which i only have a squeeze page on. I was just checking my alexa rank and found that my domain is now a PR4. I'm confused as hell its only getting like 100 hits a day and only 20 backlinks. How is this possible?

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Nicole7575 12 years ago

As a rule of thumb, it's pretty sub-optimal to base value of domain purely on TBPR because it is a dated export of the internal or real PR which nobody except Gogle knows.

It could be worth zero or it it could be worth a lot too if it has great traffic ( for example: seroundtable.com by Barry is only TBPR 3 now BUT has amazing amount of loyal traffic thanks to amazing content ). Depends on number of factors really:

1) Whether the TBPR is real or fake
2) Whether the TBPR is dated,
3) What is current revenue from the site
4) What is operating cost involved.
5) Amount and quality of the content on the domain, etc

If I'm not mistaken, the average value can range from 18 to 36 times existing monthly revenue figure.

Hope you get what you're looking from your domain.
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therichb

12 years ago

Only getting a good PR is not enough, that people generally get for their pages just keeping their volume of links high.

Even PR2 is well when you are getting enough business queries & are loaded with work. That ranking will easily increase when your traffic will rise & simultaneously you are doing SEO on your site.

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bplaza

12 years ago

may be you can sell it for 70$. But if you have well organized content and traffic you can claim more for those assets too.

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