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"Newbie Makes $5,000 A Day from IM" Real or Hiding the truth?

by tamalanwar
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Okay so I want to point out this matter, every once in a while I see these kind of statement. Can a noob in IM, really make such profit in the first few days?

Last night I downloaded an ebook where a guru said "Newbie made $4000 a day" but after reading this I found he was a newbie in WF but an experienced IMer for like 15 years. I am not offending anyone here, it seems like that people are using these lines to attract newbies to buy from them.

Also I see people showing off checks of thousands of dollars they made in few days, but they don't show their bills in PPC and Media buys.

I'm not saying it's impossible, but someone who is a complete noob in IM, emails, website setup can really make such $1000s in a few days (without spending in ads)
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  • Profile picture of the author louie6925
    Unfortunately hype sells! Newbies are vulnerable and headlines will attract them! Marketers will always use those tactics to get a sale! That's marketing!!!!! The problem lies for anyone genuinely trying to help newbies gets tared with the same brush.
    Personally I don't believe any newbie can make that sort of Money, businesses are built not made in a few days! Anything with those sort of claims is clearly a 'get rich quick' scheme and the sooner people grasp that the sooner they will stop wasting money on hype and start building a business the right way!
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    • Profile picture of the author tamalanwar
      Originally Posted by louie6925 View Post

      Unfortunately hype sells! Newbies are vulnerable and headlines will attract them! Marketers will always use those tactics to get a sale! That's marketing!!!!! The problem lies for anyone genuinely trying to help newbies gets tared with the same brush.
      Personally I don't believe any newbie can make that sort of Money, businesses are built not made in a few days! Anything with those sort of claims is clearly a 'get rich quick' scheme and the sooner people grasp that the sooner they will stop wasting money on hype and start building a business the right way!
      If they put these things in the marketing copy:

      #1 you have to work hard on your ass for 24 months, before seeing any good results
      #2 you have to spend 10-12 hours a day, being frustrated and earning nothing
      #3 you have to spend heck load of money for building and buying other paid tools
      #4 you may end up building a website/system that doesn't works

      What would be the conversion rate?
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Meaney
    If you're referring to my War Room thread, which uses the headline you're talking about, had you read the material provided you'd understand the newbie wasn't me.. it was another WF member - and she was a complete newbie when I started helping her.

    She didn't make $4,000 on her first day, and her results were not as quick as you imply.. she had to work for it, and now she regularly makes over $1,000 a day.

    No PPC or media buys were used. Old fashioned common sense and hard work did the trick.. and now it's a case of 20 minutes a day overseeing her business - because she put the effort in.

    There's one short, sharp way to solve your problem - ban all income claims from being used.

    Why do I support banning all income claims on WF? Because I dislike using them, they look scammy to me, yet through testing, I've found that it's unfortunately the best way to increase ROI on WF (I've never had to use them anywhere else). This might not be a problem for the guys who've been round here for a few years.

    Remove income claims, and we're all forced to use our skill instead of throwing numbers around.
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    • Profile picture of the author tamalanwar
      Originally Posted by Mick Meaney View Post

      If you're referring to my War Room thread, which uses the headline you're talking about, had you read the material provided you'd understand the newbie wasn't me.. it was another WF member - and she was a complete newbie when I started helping her.

      She didn't make $4,000 on her first day, and her results were not as quick as you imply.. she had to work for it, and now she regularly makes over $1,000 a day.

      No PPC or media buys were used. Old fashioned common sense and hard work did the trick.. and now it's a case of 20 minutes a day overseeing her business - because she put the effort in.
      Hello Mick, I have read your report and it was very nice and motivating.

      I already stated that I am not offending any marketers here. I read the report and it was clearly stated that the person who is a newbie made $4000 a day. But the fact I am trying to cover is, that person must be backed up with an experienced coach, money and specialized training. I cannot believe someone just would born yesterday in IM and make such huge figures.

      Even the player who hits a home-run in the debut game, has years of training and practice, isn't that true sir?
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      • Profile picture of the author Michael Meaney
        Originally Posted by tamalanwar View Post

        I cannot believe someone just would born yesterday in IM and make such huge figures.

        Even the player who hits a home-run in the debut game, has years of training and practice, isn't that true sir?
        Yes you're right and I agree with you, if you read my sales copy you'll see that I don't promise $4,000 a day.. I explicitly state they won't make those kind of figures. Instead I'll help them make around $100-200.. a realistic goal. That's why all my products come with unlimited personal one-to-one support, most newbies do need hand holding, and it's a pleasure watching them progress.

        It's irresponsible to give newbies a bunch of info and then expect them to fend for themselves.
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        • Profile picture of the author tamalanwar
          Mike, you and some other good fellas out there who are trying to change the world, but still there are scamers out there who are ripping off the newbies.
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    • Profile picture of the author x3xsolxdierx3x
      I agree 100% Mick.

      Income claims are so easily manipulated...and, we wonder why IM has gained such a bad rap.

      It's the smart and intelligent IM'er who, even in the IM/MMO niche, relies on raw data to help formulate compelling sales messages that go way beyond the shallowness of an altered Adsense screenshot (we see alot of these nowadays, don't we?)...

      Originally Posted by Mick Meaney View Post

      If you're referring to my War Room thread, which uses the headline you're talking about, had you read the material provided you'd understand the newbie wasn't me.. it was another WF member - and she was a complete newbie when I started helping her.

      She didn't make $4,000 on her first day, and her results were not as quick as you imply.. she had to work for it, and now she regularly makes over $1,000 a day.

      No PPC or media buys were used. Old fashioned common sense and hard work did the trick.. and now it's a case of 20 minutes a day overseeing her business - because she put the effort in.

      There's one short, sharp way to solve your problem - ban all income claims from being used.

      Why do I support banning all income claims on WF? Because I dislike using them, they look scammy to me, yet through testing, I've found that it's unfortunately the best way to increase ROI. This might not be a problem for the guys who've been round here for a few years.

      Remove income claims, and we're all forced to use our skill instead of throwing numbers around.
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  • Profile picture of the author aymen99
    yeah well 5k is overly hyped it is not possible for a newbie in IM , i think the best a newbie can do is 300$ a day.
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  • Profile picture of the author ChrisAlta
    As far as newbies making that much in one day goes? It'd definitely possible. But like louie6925 said, the title hypes up the newbie and makes them buy or opt in on impulse and/or emotion.

    it definitely is possible though, without spending a dime though? I'm not sure.

    I cool way I can think of it by using FaceBook PPC to drive traffic to a like page, then when you post on your feed all of the people who like you page will get your info. And then you can start making that much in a day depending on how high your ticketed item is. I mean if people loved say Infrared Sauna's..and they cost $1,000 per pop and you made an affiliate commission of $200. you could definitely start selling those a grip. Although it's not ideal, it can definitely be done. In one day? Not yet..not unless you start selling your own product or build a huge list which would take a while to do.

    Then again what is the real definition of a newbie? That's a word that is misused a lot.
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