I thought I'd be making 6K$ a month, and I MUST raise 30k$ for university in 1-2 years.

by OmarK
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Hi there. Yes, I'm yet another newb at internet marketing who used to think he'd be living in bliss when he started more than a month ago yet didn't get any results so far.

And let me tell. It is VERY frustrating, knowing you only have pretty much a year or so before you start university and you must find some way to raise around 20 to 30 thousand dollars before then, while at the same time your A-levels are constantly hammering your head and taking up all your time.

Anywho, I'll save you the silly talk because I know these sorts of 'I'm frustrated' posts must annoy the regulars in here. Let me talk about my story.

Around two months ago I was introduced to internet marketing when I stumbled across Commission Domination. Seeing the sales video, I got EXTREMELY hyped and thought 'this must be it! I'm so lucky to have come across this!' but trusting my better judgement, I started looking up reviews. Yes, product reviews. Pretty much 100% of these reviews were completely biased and every single one of them had an affiliate link. I didn't know at first, but it didn't take me long to find out seeing that almost every single one of these reviews were exactly the same. I have found other products... commission ignition, google sniper, private niche empires, extreme niche empires, bring the flesh etc. I tried to buy as less products as possible seeing that my family is in such a poor budget right now. (It's really difficult to pay for my school fees even though I'm on a 50% scholarship)

I've started doing research. Trust me when I tell you this, I've spent constant HOURS and HOURS doing complete mind numbing research, and most of the research material I found was completely bonkers, and I mean that in the bad way. (I'll tell you why in a minute)

So I've asked a budget from my dad and I started my first web-site. It looks great, the content's great, so far I've hand-written three quality articles in the niche I am passionate about, I've done LOADS of social bookmarking using onlywire, I've submitted articles, I've done off-site and on-site optimisation, and a month or two later my web-site is still sitting beyond the 100th rank on google and I barely get 0-1 visitors every day. 2 if I'm lucky. I've looked and purchased many many guides, and it really frustrates me when they all tell me I must purchase things like linkvana, build my rank, lixboss, article wizard thing, the best spinner, actual rank, senukex, blog blueprint (from the seoblueprint package) etc etc. If I would seriously buy even 3 of these softwares (let alone buying ALL of them) I'd be paying well over 200 or 300 dollars every month. That's not a good investment if I haven't even started making money yet!

I've done a bit of keyword research before making a website, and found an absolute golden keyword that has 60000 global monthly searches where the top ranking web-site only has only around 200 backlinks (and apparently pretty much ALL of these backlinks are from short articles posted at different blog networks, and I'm assuming the guy who made this has purchased some sort of link network automator thingamij like blog blueprint I mentioned above... I'm not sure if that's the case and I have no idea how I could pull off something like that myself). Also using market samurai's 14-day free trial I found out the SEOT for the top ranking web-site would get around 800+ visitors everyday. I've done some calculations... the average conversion rate for clickbank products is an average of 1% right? (I made sure my web-site can convert high after I made the web-site) so 1% of 800 is 8 buyers every day, meaning I'd earn a 27$ commission every time I make a sale. You can just imagine what I looked like when I found out I'd be potentially earning well over 200$ every day!! I was completely baffled! I got super excited and bought a domain and hosting account in a jiffy! Well... here's the kicker. Just today I've found out how big of a mistake I've made two months ago when I did my research. Yeah I think you guessed it right... when I searched for the keyword I didn't search using the exact match type on market samurai and the google keyword tool. The SEOT jumped from a whopping 800 visitors to just a measly 22 a day, and google's keyword tool says there's 1.9k searches every month. And that's only if my website's actually ranked on the top spot. I can't get mine to get anything below the 100 ranking!



I found this pretty neat thread here in the forum: *removed link 'cuz I can't post links here yet. It's just markviduk86's method you can find stickied in the seo section*
but when mark viduk starts explaining his day to day processes, I find it hard to follow since I'm not sure what most these methods mean and how to actually do them.

Well by now you can probably imagine just how frustrated I am at the moment. I can't get my website (that has very little potential in the first place) to rank above the 100th position and I don't know just what seo software I'm supposed to be investing on. Heck, each and every backlinking strategy I found out there always involve purchasing some expensive backlnking product that requires a monthly payment. And there are so many products and bad reviews out there I just don't know what to do.

Oh the depression. According to UCAS I can admit myself to most of the great UK universities without pulling much of a sweat, but just knowing that the only thing standing between me and such a great future in a great university being just 'money' is too bloody depressing. My dad's contract with his day job just ended, and we're practically stuck between a rock and a hard place when it comes to money.

So please, from a fellow warrior to a frustrated and desperate newbie, I want the best recommendation out there.
What one program should I purchase? What strategy should I follow? Should I start on a new web-site?

I would be absolutely elated if I could someday see some numbers in my clickbank account someday.
#30k$ #6k$ #making #month #raise #thought #university #years
  • Profile picture of the author Johnny Optimo
    good backlinking strategy for free:

    get a list of some really great commentluv/dofollow blogs... use google

    then, extract the internal URLs with one of many free tools - try PaRaMeter (don't do too many PR checks/hour to avoid getting banned, or use a proxy)

    Then, use that same program to find the internal pagerank of all the internal pages.

    Most PR 3 or 4 blogs have a few internally ranked pages between PR1 and 3

    then just go ahead and leave your links on the ranked pages.


    just some advice :]
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Hi Omar,

    Well, it took me a while to get started, too. I hear you.

    I note that every single comment in your post above about getting traffic to a website relates only to getting SERP's traffic ... and was just wondering whether you realise that SEO is only one potential traffic source and that there are many others? I make my full-time living as a ClickBank affiliate and although I do have some sites that rank very highly for some long-tail keywords, I actually get most of my traffic in other ways. This seems to me to be infinitely preferable, because that way one builds up a business that isn't entirely reliant on Google. And that can be a lot more secure, in the long run.

    Originally Posted by OmarK View Post

    I thought I'd be making 6K$ a month
    I think it took me about 8 months to get there. It can be done.

    Good luck with your A-levels - next summer? What subjects?
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    • Profile picture of the author theonegodfather
      WOW :O I didn´t think that you can earn so much money ... may I ask you something ... how did you get there, how are you making $ 6000 a month ????? please answer my question because I am very confused at the moment
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      • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
        Originally Posted by theonegodfather View Post

        WOW :O I didn´t think that you can earn so much money ... may I ask you something ... how did you get there, how are you making $ 6000 a month ????? please answer my question because I am very confused at the moment
        Yes, it appears you are. Have another read of the thread.

        The OP isn't making 6k a month.

        Quite the opposite but the thread does give a lot of good information which could help you on your way.
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    • Profile picture of the author OmarK
      Oh my God I've only gone to use the bathroom for a few minutes and already three replies! I'm going to absolutely love it here.

      Originally Posted by Johnny Optimo View Post

      good backlinking strategy for free:

      get a list of some really great commentluv/dofollow blogs... use google

      then, extract the internal URLs with one of many free tools - try PaRaMeter (don't do too many PR checks/hour to avoid getting banned, or use a proxy)

      Then, use that same program to find the internal pagerank of all the internal pages.

      Most PR 3 or 4 blogs have a few internally ranked pages between PR1 and 3

      then just go ahead and leave your links on the ranked pages.


      just some advice :]
      Thanks for that! I've actually started doing that today but I'm finding it hard to get hold of really good blogs. I've only made one comment so far today. (my days are usually spent 99% research 1% actually doing something... yes I will fix that)
      Thanks for the tip!

      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

      Hi Omar,

      Well, it took me a while to get started, too. I hear you.

      I note that every single comment in your post above about getting traffic to a website relates only to getting SERP's traffic ... and was just wondering whether you realise that SEO is only one potential traffic source and that there are many others? I make my full-time living as a ClickBank affiliate and although I do have some sites that rank very highly for some long-tail keywords, I actually get most of my traffic in other ways. This seems to me to be infinitely preferable, because that way one builds up a business that isn't entirely reliant on Google. And that can be a lot more secure, in the long run.



      I think it took me about 8 months to get there. It can be done.

      Good luck with your A-levels - next summer? What subjects?
      That's pretty interesting. Hope you don't mind sharing a little more about traffic outside of google?
      While we're on that though, I actually have around 50 or more free google credits sitting in my control panel. Do you recommend I start doing some PPC to kickstart this whole thing? Maybe find a good paying clickbank product and link directly to my clickbank link using google advertising? Is this how it works?

      About my A-levels, I'm doing maths, physics, biology and geography. People say it's a great asset to do a fourth A2 topic on the 13th year, so I'm pretty happy about that. But let me tell you, despite what it looks like, studying only four subjects isn't as easy as it may seem. It's probably about 20 fold more difficult than when I was doing my 8 IGCSE's.
      Thanks for the reply though!
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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        Originally Posted by OmarK View Post

        Oh my God I've only gone to use the bathroom for a few minutes ...
        Nothing quite like keeping fellow-Warriors apprised of your movements ...

        Originally Posted by OmarK View Post

        Hope you don't mind sharing a little more about traffic outside of google?
        I get mine from the syndication of my articles to the websites and ezines of people who have already-targeted traffic in my niches. (It's true this does also lead - gradually - to some huge SEO-benefits, too, because backlinks on relevant sites are worth so much link-juice ... but SEO isn't its primary objective at all). And then I get some from commenting on relevant blogs/sites, and in relevant forums. Anywhere where the traffic's relevant, I want links to my sites, if I can get them.

        Originally Posted by OmarK View Post

        I actually have around 50 or more free google credits sitting in my control panel. Do you recommend I start doing some PPC to kickstart this whole thing?
        I know little about it, and others can advise you much better than I can.

        Originally Posted by OmarK View Post

        Maybe find a good paying clickbank product and link directly to my clickbank link using google advertising? Is this how it works?
        Nooooooo ... for two reasons.

        First, AdWords don't allow direct-linking.

        Secondly, and perhaps more importantly, it wouldn't work anyway. Here's a tip for you: however you look at it, selling ClickBank (and similar) products is all about three main things ...

        (i) You have to select the products wisely: obviously enough, without getting this part right, it doesn't much matter what else you do;

        (ii) You have to pre-sell effectively to well-targeted traffic;

        (iii) You have to build a list and form relationships with the people on it, so that they'll buy on the strength of your recommendation. Without doing this, your conversion-rate will typically be somewhere between "very low indeed" and "non-existent".

        These things aren't optional: you really do need to do all three of them. There's a huge turnover of affiliate marketers trying other ways and not being successful. The above overview - simplistic and superficial though it is - is representative of those who make a living from it, however we choose to attract our traffic. Don't try to send traffic to hoplinks without building a list.

        Originally Posted by OmarK View Post

        About my A-levels, I'm doing maths, physics, biology and geography.
        Oooh, good luck - physics is a pig - I didn't do A-level and didn't want to! (This is one of those rare conversations around here in which I'm an "older woman" ... I graduated last year.)

        On the subject of linkwheels, this little thread might interest you ...
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          oH, wow, I thought I knew a lot about IM, but now my brain is doing cartwheels! Thanks Di for asking what they were talking about and thanks Mary for answering in a way I could understand. I guess up to now, I did't have linkwheels, I just had link lines - can't wait to start doing the wheel thing to see how it improves things. Thanks!
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          Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

          Nothing quite like keeping fellow-Warriors apprised of your movements ...
          Alexa, that was so bad.
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  • Profile picture of the author Scott Million
    It's sad that many marketers like to push newbies toward SEO and 'thin' affiliate marketing... those are much harder and make far less money (from my personal experience) than creating your own products, finding people with good size lists to JV with or mail for you, and doing things like webinars (want to make 30K by next year or even next month? Learn everything you can about webinars.)

    Think about it, what are the gurus you bought a product from doing? They're SELLING their own stuff, getting affiliates on board, etc. Less than 10% of their traffic (if even close to that) is coming to that sales letter from search engine traffic.

    And be very careful about finding that "super" keyword. I got ranked #1 for a term that had 300,000 searches / mo according to Google and I got a whopping 15 visitors per day from it at #1 after months of hard, dedicated work!

    I still use SEO all the time and make great money from it, but it's not as newbie friendly as everyone advertises. That's my personal opinion and to reach your goals within a year, SEO would not be the ticket I'd take.
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    • Profile picture of the author Don Luis
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      Originally Posted by Scott Million View Post

      It's sad that many marketers like to push newbies toward SEO and 'thin' affiliate marketing... those are much harder and make far less money (from my personal experience) than creating your own products, finding people with good size lists to JV with or mail for you, and doing things like webinars (want to make 30K by next year or even next month? Learn everything you can about webinars.)

      Think about it, what are the gurus you bought a product from doing? They're SELLING their own stuff, getting affiliates on board, etc. Less than 10% of their traffic (if even close to that) is coming to that sales letter from search engine traffic.

      And be very careful about finding that "super" keyword. I got ranked #1 for a term that had 300,000 searches / mo according to Google and I got a whopping 15 visitors per day from it at #1 after months of hard, dedicated work!

      I still use SEO all the time and make great money from it, but it's not as newbie friendly as everyone advertises. That's my personal opinion and to reach your goals within a year, SEO would not be the ticket I'd take.
      Thank you for this excellent piece of advice but I'm afraid that creating and selling their own products is extremely difficult for newbies. Can you please tell me what course or ebook is ideal for beginners who want to create and sell their own information products?

      I'm interested in creating my own information products but I would also like to make my own websites promoting products as an affiliate.
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    • Profile picture of the author Liam Hamer
      Originally Posted by Scott Million View Post

      It's sad that many marketers like to push newbies toward SEO and 'thin' affiliate marketing... those are much harder and make far less money (from my personal experience) than creating your own products, finding people with good size lists to JV with or mail for you, and doing things like webinars (want to make 30K by next year or even next month? Learn everything you can about webinars.)
      I think newbies need to walk before they can run. Yes, it'd be great if they could get straight into all those things you mention - but learning about all that, and implementing it takes time. SEO isn't the be all and end all, but I think learning about it in the beginning is important - especially keyword selection, niche selection, building backlinks and on page optimization.

      When I started out, if someone told me I should immediately look at creating my own products, finding people to JV with and doing webinars, I'd have been overwhelmed and intimidated.

      SEO is one of many skills a newbie should develop, IMO.
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      • Profile picture of the author Scott Million
        Originally Posted by Liam Hamer View Post

        I think newbies need to walk before they can run. Yes, it'd be great if they could get straight into all those things you mention - but learning about all that, and implementing it takes time. SEO isn't the be all and end all, but I think learning about it in the beginning is important - especially keyword selection, niche selection, building backlinks and on page optimization.

        When I started out, if someone told me I should immediately look at creating my own products, finding people to JV with and doing webinars, I'd have been overwhelmed and intimidated.

        SEO is one of many skills a newbie should develop, IMO.
        We can agree to disagree. Webinars might seem overwhelming at first, sure, but after you do one or two it gets pretty easy... and the income is addicting.

        And if you want to drop the webinar bit and make product creation less overwhelming, then get your feet wet right here in the WF by just PMing some warriors and ask to interview them on SEO/Facebook/Affiliate Marketing/etc. whatever they're a subject matter expert on, transcribe the interviews, touch them up, and package a few as an attractive WSO.

        I'm not saying stick to the IM niche, but this is a great place to test some of these skills and pretty much guarantee an ROI from your efforts through WSOs... interviewing is a perfect stepping stone into webinars BTW because it takes the "we're live" pressure off, but you learn how to ask good questions, keep speakers on topic, build confidence when people buy your stuff, learn to network and work with other marketers, etc... now how much harder is that to do then committing to building backlinks everyday and having to wait anxiously for potentially weeks to months to see results as a newbie? To each their own.
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    • Profile picture of the author E. Brian Rose
      Originally Posted by Scott Million View Post

      It's sad that many marketers like to push newbies toward SEO and 'thin' affiliate marketing... those are much harder and make far less money (from my personal experience) than creating your own products, finding people with good size lists to JV with or mail for you, and doing things like webinars (want to make 30K by next year or even next month? Learn everything you can about webinars.)

      ^ That's solid advice.
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    • Profile picture of the author lakshaybehl
      Originally Posted by Scott Million View Post

      It's sad that many marketers like to push newbies toward SEO and 'thin' affiliate marketing... those are much harder and make far less money (from my personal experience) than creating your own products, finding people with good size lists to JV with or mail for you, and doing things like webinars (want to make 30K by next year or even next month? Learn everything you can about webinars.)

      Think about it, what are the gurus you bought a product from doing? They're SELLING their own stuff, getting affiliates on board, etc. Less than 10% of their traffic (if even close to that) is coming to that sales letter from search engine traffic.

      And be very careful about finding that "super" keyword. I got ranked #1 for a term that had 300,000 searches / mo according to Google and I got a whopping 15 visitors per day from it at #1 after months of hard, dedicated work!

      I still use SEO all the time and make great money from it, but it's not as newbie friendly as everyone advertises. That's my personal opinion and to reach your goals within a year, SEO would not be the ticket I'd take.
      @ OP:

      Listen to this man... He speaketh the truth....

      -Lakshay

      P.S. I'd not read the last paragraph, though.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mary Wilhite
    Here's another advice.

    1. Create a linkwheel for each of the page in your site. The more spokes the linkwheel have, the better.

    2. Get the RSS Feeds of the spokes in your linkwheels

    3. Submit the RSS Feeds of the linkwheel spokes to RSS Submission Sites. Do as much as possible

    4. Create massive backlinks for your linkwheels, you can even create linkwheels pointing to the spokes of your 2nd level linkwheels.

    5. Ping the URL of those linkwheels.

    6. Bookmark the spokes of your linkwheels

    7. Gather The RSS Feeds of your bookmark accounts and submit the RSS feeds
    to RSS Submission Sites as well.

    Continously do this for a month or two.

    The idea here is for you to be able to create backlinks to your internal pages using a linkwheel and have those backlinks/linkwheel supported by another layer of backlinks which can also be a linkwheel.

    I think you get the idea.
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  • Profile picture of the author webapex
    Sounds like you were hyped, happens to all of us.

    There have been more than a few IM gurus who dropped out of college after their online earnings were already exceeding the potential earning fro their choosen career. But there are plenty more who never earned their electric bill, home you endure the inevitable failings along the way to finding success.

    There are plenty of backlink services employing the tools you mentioned that would be a cheaper way to go at first, you probably would have to own several productive sites to justify the monthly cost of some of these tools.

    Search ranking takes time, they say a site that's 3-6 months old can take on more new links a day than a brand new one without raising suspicion. Creating 6 - 10 free social sites that point to your main site might be worthwhile link getting exercises.

    I just wanted to add that checking the local exact match for a keyword probably gives you the closest to an accurate search volume figure. When you evaluate the backlinks of the competition, look at the quality of those backlinks, you could get 10,000 bot generated spam links that would not match in overall value.

    I believe when you are looking at that rule of thumb conversion rate, you may have to compound the 1% rate for your presell page and the 1% rate for the actual Clickbank sales page, meaning, according to the course rule of thumb, 1 sale for every 10,000 visitors to your site.
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  • Profile picture of the author onSubie
    Hi

    One thing I read that I found very useful was BEFORE you spend a lot of time and effort on SEO work, make sure it is worth it.

    When your website is ready, run a PPC campaign to see how your page/offer converts. You can do this with only a few thousand clicks to keep costs low.

    If the PPC campaign is well targeted, you can get a feel for how the offer converts. You can also do split tests to develop the best landing page/sales copy

    After you have run a test PPC campaign you will have an idea of how the offer converts. If you have a winner, then it is worth the time/effort/cost of developing SEO to get search engine traffic.

    If the offer is not converting with your PPC campaign, it likely won't convert any better after a few months effort on SEO.

    Save yourself months of effort and cost by testing as quickly as possible early in the research and development phase.

    One nice thing about PPC is there is no waiting. Target your keywords, develop some ads then "switch on" and you get "instant" traffic with no sandbox or Google dance.

    It doesn't matter if the initial PPC campaign is a loss, you are primarily using it to test your offer to make sure it converts before spending months doing SEO and wrangling with Google.

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  • Profile picture of the author jbode
    My advice is to get a college loan... don't back yourself into a hole and end up saying I need to make $X online but I have no money to invest!

    Focus on the most important things (the ones that you think will bring in the most money) then come up with a good solid plan ...that's where I would start
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    • Profile picture of the author Nightengale
      Originally Posted by jbode View Post

      ...don't back yourself into a hole and end up saying I need to make online but I have no money to invest!
      What he said.

      Building a good, solid business takes time. You can make money in record time online, but you can also go YEARS without making any money.

      I think you're putting too much pressure on yourself. Are there other ways you might be able to go to university? Can you get a loan (if you're comfortable with that)? Can you get a job? Maybe put university off a year or two and get a job?

      None of those options are very attractive probably, but I wouldn't rely solely on starting a new business from scratch to raise that much money in just one year. First, you have the learning curve (which is steep in IM), and then the trial-and-error factor.

      Plus, you need to be able to spend SOME money on your business, however minimal. With the kind of pressure you've put on yourself, you're probably not going to want to invest any money in growing your business.

      Time to adjust your plan. Go to school part-time? Put it off for a little while? Get a job? Get a loan? Any combination thereof?

      Also, I applaud your sincerity and actually DOING something. Unfortunately, it sounds like you've gotten caught up in the hype of TACTICS instead of having a solid, comprehensive plan.

      Clarity is a huge part of IM success.

      IM is actually pretty simple: you can sell only one of two things:

      1. Products
      2. Services

      That's it!

      And selling products or services online happens in the same basic way for everyone, no matter what they're selling:

      Traffic > Opt-in page > Autoresponder series (or e-zine) > Sales page

      That's it! It's just that simple. (We IMers tend to overcomplicate things.)

      But no matter what your niche is, or whether you're selling a product or a service, do you know what your business model is?

      A business model is the framework or skeleton of your business. Essentially there are three types of online business models:

      1. Membership-based model

      A membership-based business model allows you to build a community of people (your members) who are as passionate about your subject as you are. Your membership fees can be monthly or annual, but either way, you're building recurring, passive income.

      There are a lot of resources and information out there to help you build a membership-based business if you're interested in doing this.

      2. Product-based model

      Selling products allows you to maximize your time and effort by selling items over and over again. This can be hard goods or it can be information products. Information marketing is it's own business model under the product-based model. Information marketing allows you to take your brain to the bank by creating a product ONCE based on what you know and selling it over and over again.

      I see someone has already recommended affiliate marketing. You can choose to market either products or services as an affiliate.

      3. Service-based model

      Selling services can be great for 1) generating quick cash (as in the case of article writing or video producing) and 2) establishing your expertise and getting testimonials.

      However, in the long run, your goal should be to offer services at a PREMIUM. The biggest advantage of IM is LEVERAGE. You're able to leverage your time, money and expertise exponentially online. We all have just 24 hours each day. Time to get ruthless about what you expect for those hours you spend in IM each day. Expect more of yourself and more from your business friends, clients, partners, etc.

      What results are you getting for those hours you spend online each day? Ultimately, your services should be at the bottom of your funnel and cost the most since they involve your time and personal attention. (We all have a limited amount of time each day.)

      The fun (and confusion) comes in with all of the endless mix-and-match possibilities of the above models. If you're just starting or still struggling to make money, keep it simple:

      Pick just ONE!

      1. Pick ONE niche. (Something you're interested in and know something about.)

      2. Pick ONE target market for your product or service. (Who will buy what you're offering? The more specific you are, the more you narrow it down, the more successful you'll be.)

      3. Pick ONE business model.

      Now that you're clear about what business you're in, FOCUS!

      F -- Follow
      O -- One
      C -- Course
      U -- Until
      S -- Successful

      In IM, it's easy to put the cart before the horse. Take a deep breath, step back and consider what type of business you're REALLY want. Don't worry about getting traffic or buying that expensive traffic product until you know 1) what your business model is, 2) what niche you're in and 3) WHO your target market is!

      Successful business people will tell you that MARKETING is more than half the effort that's needed for success anyway. So pick a niche, target market and business model. Then spend most of your time and effort marketing it.

      Actually, is IS easy precisely because of a solid plan or system! If you DON'T have a solid plan or system, THAT'S when it's hard. A good system will shave YEARS (and save you big $$$) off of your learning curve

      That's why I recommend investing in at least one good, comprehensive IM course (or mentor who will give you such a system) instead of jumping from one $37 e-book to the next. A lot of people here complain about not being able to make any money. But neither are they willing to invest in their business.

      The best thing I ever did was invest in a comprehensive IM course aimed at REAL business owners, not just other IM wannabes. Yes it was $1500. (Now it's only $997. ) But it was truly some of the best A-Z IM info I ever bought. Everything else I've learned since has simply been plugged into this system.

      Get a solid plan or system and then work the plan!

      Hope this helps!

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      • Profile picture of the author Nightengale
        Also, there are 101 ways to market online. But success is usually about doing just a few things over and over again

        Once you've chosen your product/service, niche, target market, etc., pick about 5 marketing methods that are most appropriate to your business and audience and just repeat them over and over. This will save you from jumping from one thing to another to another and give your efforts tremendous focus.

        And focus = RESULTS.

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  • Profile picture of the author Isaiah Jackson
    1. find the right niche to get into
    2. build your squeeze page
    3. build your list by participating in forums or use ppc
    4. promote offers to the list
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    • Profile picture of the author MaroshIS
      Omar,

      Don't buy WSO, its just milking newbies..

      Find a good niche. stay away from affiliate business and don't create IM digital products, there's too high competition. rather tap into markets that are not overcrowded by experienced IM marketers.

      Don't spend too much time on building your site, rather buy some WP theme like (optimizepress or profitstheme for example) which allow you to create a site in a few days on your own.

      Then test your offer immediately with some PPC (provided you can get cheap cost per click).

      Spend most your time on marketing (finding people needs, selling, advertising etc.) .. remember product creation you can outsource completely or buy some PLR stuff (not recommended)
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      • Profile picture of the author Kay King
        If you have confidence in your niche and keywords...just keep working. A month or two is nothing online. Too often people give a new site a month and then dump and move to something else...and something else.

        Don't believe the hype of big easy money for new marketers starting out. Once you get moving and start seeing results, it gets easier.

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  • Profile picture of the author OmarK
    That's a lot of quality replies! Thanks!
    At the moment I'm contemplating either promoting amazon products (high conversion rates, less competition and much more potential traffic, easy to start with), doing webinars or creating my own product. (more income apparently, but there's still a lot of research to be done for the last two, and I have absolutely no idea what my webinars or products would be about, but nothing can't be solved without proper research (overstatement, I know)).

    I'm still not certain if or not I'll be doing PPC campaigns since I'm not sure what they're all about and it's hard to find a decent guide out there.

    What do you think? Anything that strikes a 'noooooooooooooo don't do that' bomb in your head?

    Alexa, your post is really top notch. Thanks
    But how do you syndicate your articles to other people's websites and articles if you don't own these websites in the first place? And I imagine that since there's competition, why would the owner of that website with the already targeted traffic start giving you links? I don't think commenting on their blogs would do much either rather than give you backlinks. Well what do I know I'm still a newbie.
    Please enlighten me!
    And if you don't mind please tell me more about 'building lists'.
    Sorry, I know that's a lot to ask for but I'm really interested in how you do your stuff. I'm really grateful for your help so far!
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by OmarK View Post

      Alexa, your post is really top notch. Thanks
      But how do you syndicate your articles to other people's websites and articles if you don't own these websites in the first place?
      You have to do two things, really:-

      (i) Write for syndication (the whole thread is ok), and ...

      (ii) Offer your articles to people who want content (similarly).

      Originally Posted by OmarK View Post

      And I imagine that since there's competition, why would the owner of that website with the already targeted traffic start giving you links?
      Some direct competitors won't. (Some will, surprisingly). But not all websites belong to "internet marketers". And not even all "internet marketers" are selling the same things as you/me, anyway. What proportion of websites/blogs do you think belong to affiliate marketers? (It's very small!).

      Originally Posted by OmarK View Post

      I don't think commenting on their blogs would do much either rather than give you backlinks.
      Now I'm really going to sound like an "older woman" (), but some experience of it will change your mind about that point.

      Here are two more (not over-long!) very recent threads which will really help you, I think ...

      http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...explained.html - this one covers most of the basics of article marketing ...

      http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...marketing.html - and this one-page thread kind of explains the difference between "article marketing" and "article directory marketing".

      Originally Posted by OmarK View Post

      And if you don't mind please tell me more about 'building lists'.
      Will come back and either do that or find you a good link to a thread which does it, a bit later.
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  • Profile picture of the author keepgoin
    What an amaaaazing thread, filled with super advice from generous people!

    Hey Omar - best of luck with everything! I'm a newbie starting out right now (September 2011) as I write, so I'm sure we can share our success stories in the future!

    I think we can each develop our own backlink strategy depending on time and budget, and then tweak it constantly. I plan on doing as much free stuff as possible, like link-wheels, manual pinging, maybe comments on high PR blogs...not exactly sure, but what I have learnt from reading posts here is to keep plugging away, maybe 10 links a day to start with.

    Have fun!

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  • Profile picture of the author JasonParker
    If you think you would be rolling in the doh and you just started your internet business 1 month ago, then that's really not realistic.

    If you're depending on IM right now, don't.

    Depend on regular job.

    After 1 month you haven't failed enough to learn to make a profit.
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    Make youtube videos, something interesting.
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  • Profile picture of the author Psst
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    OMG, you are only two months into IM and you know all these. Many people (including me a year ago), even after spending months or even years in IM, don't know even a fraction of what you know. You are truly a genius. Isn't he Warriors? How do you do that?

    With your genius, I'm sure you can achieve this goal soon and easily too.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by Psst View Post

      OMG, you are only two months into IM and you know all these. Many people (including me a year ago), even after spending months or even years in IM, don't know even a fraction of what you know. You are truly a genius. Isn't he Warriors? How do you do that?
      Very good point, actually ... he knows a whole lot more than I did after a month or two, for sure!
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  • Profile picture of the author Raydal
    @ OP,

    If you start making $6,000 per month then you'll not be
    motivated to go to college. You'll want to boost your
    income to $30,000 per month.

    Most people's incentive to go to college is to earn more
    money, so why go if you already are?

    -Ray Edwards

    P.S. I've been to college three times.
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    • Profile picture of the author genhorrall
      Hi Omark,

      Well I am not going to hype you up and tell you are going to making tons of money a month. Remember how much you make is determined by the value you offer others through your skills, services and content

      I am going to make a crazy suggestion. You said that 3 really great articles up for your niche. And that you were doing bookmarking and other stuff for your site. Why not take the time you are doing for that a cut it down a little an add new articles and information to your site everyday. I mean really if you want people to come back and visit again, then you need something new for them come back to.

      My other suggestion is to work on the skills you have. I would not buy another program till I had mastered the ones that I already have. Start with one and work your way through and keep at it for at least 90 days.

      Trust me the more time you spending adding quality informative information to your site and helping people in your niche, the quicker you will see results. You have to keep at it and when you feel like you have hit your head against the wall, you know you are probably closer than you think.
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      • Profile picture of the author OmarK
        Originally Posted by genhorrall View Post

        Hi Omark,

        Well I am not going to hype you up and tell you are going to making tons of money a month. Remember how much you make is determined by the value you offer others through your skills, services and content

        I am going to make a crazy suggestion. You said that 3 really great articles up for your niche. And that you were doing bookmarking and other stuff for your site. Why not take the time you are doing for that a cut it down a little an add new articles and information to your site everyday. I mean really if you want people to come back and visit again, then you need something new for them come back to.

        My other suggestion is to work on the skills you have. I would not buy another program till I had mastered the ones that I already have. Start with one and work your way through and keep at it for at least 90 days.

        Trust me the more time you spending adding quality informative information to your site and helping people in your niche, the quicker you will see results. You have to keep at it and when you feel like you have hit your head against the wall, you know you are probably closer than you think.
        Thanks for that!
        I know that quite well to be honest and I do have a lot of ideas for new (not to mention unique and maybe half-passionately written) articles that I'd like to post. But the only thing holding me down is the fact that my niche isn't very popular at all as I have discovered lately, and the fact that the guy sitting at number one looks like he's using a paid backlinking service. I used SEOquake and found out his SEM traffic is... oh wow... over 1200. So I guess I can still stick to my original niche and try and push it up, but like I've mentioned, I don't have the budget to use a backlinking service to push my website from the >100th position to the first. Maybe I can if I do some manual backlinking... the top website has only 200 backlinks so yeah, it looks possible. But... yet again I'll only be getting 20 visitors a day if I rank high in this particular keyword... but I don't quite get why the guy sitting at top has over 1200 visitors a day if there are only 20 people searching for they keyword everyday. LSI keywords maybe? Don't know... (Wow... kind of feel like I'm having an argument with myself. )
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        • Profile picture of the author mkl3377
          Originally Posted by OmarK View Post

          Thanks for that!
          I know that quite well to be honest and I do have a lot of ideas for new (not to mention unique and maybe half-passionately written) articles that I'd like to post. But the only thing holding me down is the fact that my niche isn't very popular at all as I have discovered lately, and the fact that the guy sitting at number one looks like he's using a paid backlinking service. I used SEOquake and found out his SEM traffic is... oh wow... over 1200. So I guess I can still stick to my original niche and try and push it up, but like I've mentioned, I don't have the budget to use a backlinking service to push my website from the >100th position to the first. Maybe I can if I do some manual backlinking... the top website has only 200 backlinks so yeah, it looks possible. But... yet again I'll only be getting 20 visitors a day if I rank high in this particular keyword... but I don't quite get why the guy sitting at top has over 1200 visitors a day if there are only 20 people searching for they keyword everyday. LSI keywords maybe? Don't know... (Wow... kind of feel like I'm having an argument with myself. )
          Omar,

          I keep hearing you talk only about how to rank for the main kw and how challenging it might be to out rank him but you're sure you can do it. But may I ask why are you looking at only the main kw. Google ranks pages not sites. So why are you not researching for more kw so that you can publish more content on your own site targeting other more easier kws. Just because your main page is not ranking there's no reason whey your subpages can rank on their own.

          You can find another 15-20 kw and write some articles for them, drip feed them and build backinks to each article. Your individual pages will rank high enough to generate some traffic (provided you did proper competition research for sites on the 1st page) and start bringing some money with what ever monetization method you choose.

          If each of your kw have around 1000/mon searches exact match then we're talking about almost 20k/mon visitors. It wont be the 60k you saw originally but that is still pretty good.

          If I were you I'd forget about the main kw for awhile and start looking into building out the site. Your main page will benefit from you building out your site. If you think the niche is too narrow then broden it. Or go after another niche and this time use the exact match for monthly searches.

          just my 2 cents
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    • Profile picture of the author dunczmarketing
      Originally Posted by Raydal View Post

      @ OP,

      If you start making $6,000 per month then you'll not be
      motivated to go to college. You'll want to boost your
      income to $30,000 per month.

      Most people's incentive to go to college is to earn more
      money, so why go if you already are?

      -Ray Edwards

      P.S. I've been to college three times.
      Well said, comment of the day.
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  • Profile picture of the author OmarK
    There is so much help here in such short amount of time for only a little newbie like me that none of you even know yet. I am absolutely loving this forum now!

    I'm not being as active as I want to be though. Again, A2-levels taking up almost all of my time and I barely have enough time to do proper research and convert the things I learn to something I can put into work. Now, thing is I'm a bit paranoid that whatever path I chose, be it building niche sites promoting clickbank stuff (that have high competition), or creating my own products and get JV partners everywhere (that seems like a lot of work especially since I haven't the slightest idea how to do this), or creating PPC campaigns (again, no clue how to start that), or start promoting a number of amazon products (THIS though is something I'm highly veering towards at the moment.)

    A lot of you are backing up what Scot Million said regarding creating your own products and/or webinars. I feel very interested at the moment now Or maybe it's just my silly "oh God this is the best method ever /hype" tendencies acting up again.
    I've downloaded a report online regarding that topic and I'm yet to read that in case promoting amazon stuff won't work. Or do you recommend that I take the create-your-own-product initiative first? I imagine this requires a big budget, that's why I'm thinking of doing amazon first to gather up said budget.

    Thanks for the thread links, Alexa. Again, your posts are highly top notch and if I could give you a thank I would only when I figure out just how to. Maybe I need a higher post count. Anywho, I'll check those article syndication threads later if I have time. There are so many paths to chose I don't really know what to pick!


    Originally Posted by Psst View Post

    OMG, you are only two months into IM and you know all these. Many people (including me a year ago), even after spending months or even years in IM, don't know even a fraction of what you know. You are truly a genius. Isn't he Warriors? How do you do that?

    With your genius, I'm sure you can achieve this goal soon and easily too.
    I dearly hope you're not being sarcastic.
    Really though? I think there's still a lot for me to learn. But knowing I've known a lot more than successful guys like you did when you started out makes feel quite smug right about now.


    Originally Posted by Raydal View Post

    @ OP,

    If you start making $6,000 per month then you'll not be
    motivated to go to college. You'll want to boost your
    income to $30,000 per month.

    Most people's incentive to go to college is to earn more
    money, so why go if you already are?

    -Ray Edwards

    P.S. I've been to college three times.
    Truth be told, if there's anything that I ever value more than money and success, it's value. Like a great man once said, “Try not to become a man of success, but rather try to become a man of value.” - Einstein.

    I'm not planning to enter college just to earn money, but to gain both value for when I become a valuable physicist for people, and to also acquire more knowledge about this great place that we live in. But in order to do so you need to tackle the most obvious yet troublesome hurdle in your way: you need money!
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    • Profile picture of the author Psst
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      Originally Posted by OmarK View Post


      I dearly hope you're not being sarcastic.
      Really though? I think there's still a lot for me to learn. But knowing I've known a lot more than successful guys like you did when you started out makes feel quite smug right about now.
      No not sarcastic, it's from my heart.
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    • Profile picture of the author webfighter
      Originally Posted by OmarK View Post

      Truth be told, if there's anything that I ever value more than money and success, it's value. Like a great man once said, "Try not to become a man of success, but rather try to become a man of value." - Einstein.

      I'm not planning to enter college just to earn money, but to gain both value for when I become a valuable physicist for people, and to also acquire more knowledge about this great place that we live in. But in order to do so you need to tackle the most obvious yet troublesome hurdle in your way: you need money!
      I'm currently in college and I don't see the value you're talking about. College is for degree. You can get the same value without ever going to college, you just have to look at the right places. At least that's what I think.

      But too glad it is only costing me a third of 60k for my college education.
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  • Profile picture of the author DanVsWorld
    Hey there -

    A great person to follow and learn from is Lynn Terry. She is really great at explaining things and is NOT a hype-type person...in fact, she is the opposite and really tells you like it is. Her blog has a plethora of information on just about every topic related to IM that you can think of - all while teaching you something, not selling you something. Just my experience with her. I trust what she says and have followed her happily for the last couple of years.

    It might help with your 'researching' to know that a lot of the answers you are looking for she has already addressed.

    Best of luck to you!

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  • Profile picture of the author anthonyb
    I am not sure what niche you currently run with, but since you love physics and want to be a great physicist I hope, have you thought of a way of creating content around this subject that would be of value and interest to those able to afford what you are providing? Do you know a professor that isn’t business savvy, but is open to work with you to fulfill some market demand around physics or something near enough? Just a thought
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  • Profile picture of the author thadbong
    Hi Omar,

    There are a whole lot of quality replies here, obviously you're going to get a few seemingly conflicting replies but just keep in mind that it's because there's just so many ways to skin this cat. Just don't feel like you need to understand all of this in its entirety to make progress towards your goal. Breathe.

    One very important point that may have been lost in all of the replies is this: the amount you earn online is ultimately a reflection of the amount of value that you have to offer. So it's not about the "hottest" niche or the "ultimate" keyword, but what you have to offer to people who need it. If you can figure out a need that people have that you can fill adequately, you have the beginnings of a business online.

    When you start out online you're going to have to spend money. Whether that's a little or a lot is up to you, but I encourage you to only spend what you have earned or can reasonably expect to earn in the short term. That means not putting $97 product after $97 product on dad's credit card. There are many things that you can do online at the beginning to earn your own startup capital, for example writing articles for $5 a pop, building backlinks for x dollars and so on. This will help you prioritize your expenditure and not "speculate to accumulate" which often falls flat on its face online.

    Finally, remember that making money online is about people. Consider how people behave online and how you can use that knowledge to your benefit. As many wise heads have already mentioned, SEO is only one strategy. It's a good strategy, because people search when they are looking for something. Another strategy is writing articles, because people read articles but of course you'll want to make sure that your headlines are interesting, your article is relevant and helpful and so on. One thing you may have overlooked is that you already know a lot of people and have a ready means of contacting them and publicising what you have to offer: Facebook! Chances are you already know a lot of people who have similar interests and needs as you, so use that.

    As many people on here have already said, they didn't know half of the technical stuff being shared in this post when they started out, but they're making money right now and so can you. I wish you all the best in achieving your goal!
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    • Profile picture of the author guynextdoor
      The fastes way to make money is WITHOUT Google...

      Don't waste time with SEO and contentwriting. If your target is to make money fast go another route!


      Set up a wordpress blog..then:
      Set up 10 accounts on yahoo answer.


      1. Go to pages like Yahoo Answers and identify a "evergreen" question!

      2. Look for a article which is answering this "evergreen" question! Go to ezinearticles.com...

      3. Make a blog post (copy paste)

      4. Search a free ebook or use PLR in the same "evergreen" niche.

      5. On the same blog post: Give away a free ebook or a PLR ebook and monetize it with CPA content locking!

      6. Answer the question at yahoo answer and all the other question/answer websites.... include the link to your blog posting... say something like.. "Found a very good article for more information "evergreen niche" link.

      7. Vote for your answer with the other Yahoo accounts!


      .......................
      Additional traffic: make a squido lens for the question (title) .. some phrases "answer".. your link

      Forum Marketing.. identify some high traffic forums in your evergreen niche.. use your sig ..

      .......................
      Shortterm traffic and income from day one if done right...
      Midterm.. repeat.... everyday a NEW answer/Blogpost/ ... 4 figure income in 2 months if done right!

      Longtherm... Scale up! replace the articles with original content and Google will send you traffic too!

      Develop a own product and sell it yourself on your blog.. in addition to CPA freebies.
      .............................



      I've just outlined a fast way to start with a CPA Blog and end up with a autorithy site. Don't do "Links for SEO".. do "LINKS for Selling"!
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  • Omar... I have 3 suggestions. All will net you the money you're looking for.

    1. Seek out free training. Learn the basics of marketing anywhere you can. Free reports... webinars... even freaking Wikipedia can give up the basics on most aspects of online marketing.

    2. After you learn a little about all of it, find what it is you WANT to do. Not what will make you the most money. WHAT is best for you. If you love what you're doing, you can really put in the hours you need to be great at it, and not even realize you're working. When you realize what it is you WANT to do, seek out professionals that do that. Tops in the game. And offer to be a slave for them if they teach you everything they know.

    3. Do what they tell you. (if it's not legal or ethical, move on to the next teacher) and over deliver. Work harder than they want you to. Put in more hours... deliver more.

    Do that and 1 year from today you will have the money you want. It's really that simple.
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  • Profile picture of the author OmarK
    I appreciate you all giving me all these solid guidelines. But that's the problem, there are too many paths to decide from with only limited time.
    I may stick with amazon for now and see how well this goes. I'll give it a month or so and if it absolutely fails me, I may try something else.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jeff Williams
      Originally Posted by OmarK View Post

      I appreciate you all giving me all these solid guidelines. But that's the problem, there are too many paths to decide from with only limited time.
      I may stick with amazon for now and see how well this goes. I'll give it a month or so and if it absolutely fails me, I may try something else.
      Hey Omar,

      Crazy idea for you if you decide to go with Amazon. This is a little off the beaten path, but it may work for you. Here's why ...

      You have an all too common problem these days. Not enough cash for college. Millions of otherwise intelligent and ambitious young people like you are in the same boat right now.

      Think about the all the corporations, governments, labs, universities, etc. who are missing out on recruiting great talent simply because these kids didn't have the money to get into a good university. It's a travesty.

      Get angry about it. Now make it your "mission" to raise money for college. For you and others in your situation.

      1. Start an Amazon aStore. ( I think that's what they call it ) Make it clear you are selling Amazon products to raise money for college. Make it clear you need $30K. The rest will be put into a scholarship fund for others who need money for college. Get a catchy money-for-college domain. Include your contact info on-site.

      2. Tell your story. Tell your story to Amazon. Tell your story to CNN. Tell your story to your local newspaper and TV stations. Flood the media with your press release. Better yet, find a publicist who wants to make a name for themselves to run with your story. Accept every interview you are offered.

      3. Go grassroots. Tell your story on social media. Ask everyone you can on Facebook, Twitter, etc. to share your website with their friends. People love a cause. Give them one.

      Hair-brained idea? Maybe. Will it work? No clue. But here's the deal ...

      If it doesn't work, no harm, no foul. You really haven't lost anything but a little time. The story fades away, and you continue to pursue basic internet marketing.

      If it does work:

      * You get money for college.
      * Your friends get money for college.
      * Your publicist adds to their portfolio.
      * Amazon gets great publicity as well.
      * The media gets a story.
      * Your resume gets much more interesting.

      Truth is, you never know what can work for you unless you try it. You have already proven you are an action-taker. So, you can do this. It's simply a matter of choosing to start at the top instead of the bottom.

      I really hope this helps, Omar. Oh, and if you go this route, send me a link to your store. I buy from Amazon all the time ...

      Jeff
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      • Profile picture of the author Deveron Hilgers
        Originally Posted by Jeff Williams View Post

        Hey Omar,

        Crazy idea for you if you decide to go with Amazon. This is a little off the beaten path, but it may work for you. Here's why ...

        You have an all too common problem these days. Not enough cash for college. Millions of otherwise intelligent and ambitious young people like you are in the same boat right now.

        Think about the all the corporations, governments, labs, universities, etc. who are missing out on recruiting great talent simply because these kids didn't have the money to get into a good university. It's a travesty.

        Get angry about it. Now make it your "mission" to raise money for college. For you and others in your situation.

        1. Start an Amazon aStore. ( I think that's what they call it ) Make it clear you are selling Amazon products to raise money for college. Make it clear you need $30K. The rest will be put into a scholarship fund for others who need money for college. Get a catchy money-for-college domain. Include your contact info on-site.

        2. Tell your story. Tell your story to Amazon. Tell your story to CNN. Tell your story to your local newspaper and TV stations. Flood the media with your press release. Better yet, find a publicist who wants to make a name for themselves to run with your story. Accept every interview you are offered.

        3. Go grassroots. Tell your story on social media. Ask everyone you can on Facebook, Twitter, etc. to share your website with their friends. People love a cause. Give them one.

        Hair-brained idea? Maybe. Will it work? No clue. But here's the deal ...

        If it doesn't work, no harm, no foul. You really haven't lost anything but a little time. The story fades away, and you continue to pursue basic internet marketing.

        If it does work:

        * You get money for college.
        * Your friends get money for college.
        * Your publicist adds to their portfolio.
        * Amazon gets great publicity as well.
        * The media gets a story.
        * Your resume gets much more interesting.

        Truth is, you never know what can work for you unless you try it. You have already proven you are an action-taker. So, you can do this. It's simply a matter of choosing to start at the top instead of the bottom.

        I really hope this helps, Omar. Oh, and if you go this route, send me a link to your store. I buy from Amazon all the time ...

        Jeff
        You
        Are
        A
        Legend
        !

        That is such an interesting and wonderful idea lol.

        It could certainly work. It requires time, but I mean, what do you have to lose. If it works, you get to go to college, if it doesn't you lost a bit of time, as said above.

        Dang, that's one super idea mate.
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        • Profile picture of the author Jeff Williams
          Originally Posted by Deveron Hilgers View Post

          You
          Are
          A
          Legend
          !

          That is such an interesting and wonderful idea lol.

          It could certainly work. It requires time, but I mean, what do you have to lose. If it works, you get to go to college, if it doesn't you lost a bit of time, as said above.

          Dang, that's one super idea mate.

          Well, thanks for the compliment, Deveron. But I'm afraid I cannot take credit. Anything I may know about getting free publicity came from a few contacts I had years ago and a man named Paul Hartunian. Paul was bold enough back in '83 to sell the Brooklyn Bridge one piece at a time for $14.95 I believe. Study his stuff if you get the chance ...

          Jeff
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      • Profile picture of the author OmarK
        Originally Posted by Jeff Williams View Post

        Hey Omar,

        Crazy idea for you if you decide to go with Amazon. This is a little off the beaten path, but it may work for you. Here's why ...

        You have an all too common problem these days. Not enough cash for college. Millions of otherwise intelligent and ambitious young people like you are in the same boat right now.

        Think about the all the corporations, governments, labs, universities, etc. who are missing out on recruiting great talent simply because these kids didn't have the money to get into a good university. It's a travesty.

        Get angry about it. Now make it your "mission" to raise money for college. For you and others in your situation.

        1. Start an Amazon aStore. ( I think that's what they call it ) Make it clear you are selling Amazon products to raise money for college. Make it clear you need $30K. The rest will be put into a scholarship fund for others who need money for college. Get a catchy money-for-college domain. Include your contact info on-site.

        2. Tell your story. Tell your story to Amazon. Tell your story to CNN. Tell your story to your local newspaper and TV stations. Flood the media with your press release. Better yet, find a publicist who wants to make a name for themselves to run with your story. Accept every interview you are offered.

        3. Go grassroots. Tell your story on social media. Ask everyone you can on Facebook, Twitter, etc. to share your website with their friends. People love a cause. Give them one.

        Hair-brained idea? Maybe. Will it work? No clue. But here's the deal ...

        If it doesn't work, no harm, no foul. You really haven't lost anything but a little time. The story fades away, and you continue to pursue basic internet marketing.

        If it does work:

        * You get money for college.
        * Your friends get money for college.
        * Your publicist adds to their portfolio.
        * Amazon gets great publicity as well.
        * The media gets a story.
        * Your resume gets much more interesting.

        Truth is, you never know what can work for you unless you try it. You have already proven you are an action-taker. So, you can do this. It's simply a matter of choosing to start at the top instead of the bottom.

        I really hope this helps, Omar. Oh, and if you go this route, send me a link to your store. I buy from Amazon all the time ...

        Jeff
        Wow this truly sounds like such a master plan! I will definitely implement this in my next website. Be it a niche website, an amazon website, or any other website promoting anything, this does sound like an epic idea of full proportions. I tried publicizing my current website to as many people I know in real life but being the unpopular sod I am I didn't get much publicity. But telling my story to as many press releases as possible? I'm not too sure about that. It won't be the most exciting news ever, and I my grades aren't impressively high to attract press releases. I definitely like the idea and I'll try as best as I possibly could in the near future!

        In other news though, I've received a recommendation from someone regarding a seemingly excellent wso that I can afford. It's called rapid affiliate system and you can have a look at it here: *still can't post links. Just look for rapid affiliate system in the wso section, made by sirtom*
        Has anyone tried this? Think I can also manage to make a nice income (obviously not 6k a month) like his students did? The course I am following at the moment seems a little outdated so I think I'm a little better off with this wso.
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        • Profile picture of the author Jeff Williams
          Originally Posted by OmarK View Post

          Wow this truly sounds like such a master plan! I will definitely implement this in my next website. Be it a niche website, an amazon website, or any other website promoting anything, this does sound like an epic idea of full proportions. I tried publicizing my current website to as many people I know in real life but being the unpopular sod I am I didn't get much publicity. But telling my story to as many press releases as possible? I'm not too sure about that. It won't be the most exciting news ever, and I my grades aren't impressively high to attract press releases. I definitely like the idea and I'll try as best as I possibly could in the near future!

          In other news though, I've received a recommendation from someone regarding a seemingly excellent wso that I can afford. It's called rapid affiliate system and you can have a look at it here: *still can't post links. Just look for rapid affiliate system in the wso section, made by sirtom*
          Has anyone tried this? Think I can also manage to make a nice income (obviously not 6k a month) like his students did? The course I am following at the moment seems a little outdated so I think I'm a little better off with this wso.
          Fair enough. I'm wishing you good luck with becoming a rapid affiliate, then.
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        • Maybe you should consider supplementing your income with other money-making efforts. Most of what I've read and studied (I'm pretty much a n00b too) seems to suggest that backlinking can involve a lot of grunt work, and not quick fixes. Maybe that's what these "programs" claim to offer, but like you, I'm a little wary of signing up with any of them. Whatever you end up doing, definitely consider a "day job"...because the time frame you describe in your post should allow for enough time to raise money for your schooling....
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  • Profile picture of the author MarkJones
    I hate reading threads like this.. The false perception that alot of the "unethical" marketers are giving to newbies these days is horrible!

    But then again expecting to make $6k in your first month is a bit silly as well... Just because a sales page shows you someone in the past has done it, it doesn't mean that you'll do it.. Especially with the strategy they are teaching, alot of these guys are getting these results from email marketing, PPV and CPA purchases.

    If you want to make cash and keep doing it, build a list, being an affiliate is okay, but you need a list that you can market too!

    Mark
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