Big Niches, Little Money

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Hi Warriors!

I'm trying to think of many freebie niches - niches where there's a ton of searches, but as for a paid info product - not so sure!

One thing I was wondering about is religion. I see tons of searches for God, faith, religion, etc., but as for seeing any "pay-worthy" problem phrases in the list, I didn't see one. By that I mean stuff like, "how to____________" where you'd look at it and say, "Hey I can write an eBook about that."

Even on Amazon, the only religion books I saw were not problem-solution but more philosophical in nature, which I'm not sure would work so well for an info product.

Any insight into this niche or other niches you can think of that are big niches, little money?
Tiff
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  • Profile picture of the author Takuya Hikichi
    When I worked for online yellow page directory company, I found there were a lot of search inquiries made for churches in southern US. Perhaps adsense will yield good revenue if you had a website, displaying local denominations?

    Interesting thing was, it wasn't as competitive once it went outside that region.
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    • Profile picture of the author Eric Lorence
      The lowest tier of the "Make Money Online" niche.

      At the starting level, everyone want's to do it, but nobody wants to pay...

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  • Profile picture of the author Tim Dixon
    Originally Posted by honestbizpro View Post

    True Story,

    My friend Morgan, was trying to get me to join some "Nouveau Riche' real estate investing program. I went to his offices to check it out.

    In the corner I saw lots of calenders, tapes, dvds with religion theme...I never asked, and he never commented.

    Years later I see Morgan is one of the Guest Speakers at World Internet Summit explaining how he made 5 Million dollars with a Private Domain Poem, added nice pictures with music and created www.InterviewWithGod.com

    If you read this Morgan I am still wondering why you didn't cut me in on that one!
    Great story.

    So I guess the question is, is there actually any niche that can't be monetized in some way with some creative thinking?

    I know Tiff is specifically referring to monetizing with an info product in the OP, but it doesn't necessarily have to be a traditional infoproduct does it?

    Maybe thinking along the lines of spiritually inspirational audio/podcasts would fit into the religious niche.

    Tim
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  • Profile picture of the author Mary Gallivan
    Hi Tiffany

    How about books on 'Why should I (change my religion and) become a Catholic/Jew/etc. etc.?'

    'Why don't my prayers get answered?'

    'What is the best way to pray'

    I remember seeing a book once on Prayers for Teenagers where they weren't the standard sort of prayers but more like 'God, why doesn't my girlfriend like me?; or 'I'm having a bad day today, Lord, what can I do?'

    Then there's prayerbooks for children (nice little pressie for grandparents to buy as gifts) - could also be developed into colouring in books.

    You've got me thinking now!

    Mary
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    • Profile picture of the author Matt MacPherson
      Originally Posted by Mary Gallivan View Post

      Hi Tiffany

      How about books on 'Why should I (change my religion and) become a Catholic/Jew/etc. etc.?'

      'Why don't my prayers get answered?'

      'What is the best way to pray'

      I remember seeing a book once on Prayers for Teenagers where they weren't the standard sort of prayers but more like 'God, why doesn't my girlfriend like me?; or 'I'm having a bad day today, Lord, what can I do?'

      Then there's prayerbooks for children (nice little pressie for grandparents to buy as gifts) - could also be developed into colouring in books.

      You've got me thinking now!

      Mary
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      • Profile picture of the author LadyDro
        I pray everyday and every night. And God is still God.

        Originally Posted by Matt MacPherson View Post

        Who prays anymore? Help yourself and Google it.

        Google is the new God.

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    • Profile picture of the author LadyDro
      Its funny that you mentioned the 'Why don't my prayers get answered?' idea my husband is a Church of Christ minister and I thought about writing on that topic after one of his sermons. I may be writing something on it soon. It gets searched a lot.

      Originally Posted by Mary Gallivan View Post

      Hi Tiffany

      How about books on 'Why should I (change my religion and) become a Catholic/Jew/etc. etc.?'

      'Why don't my prayers get answered?'

      'What is the best way to pray'

      I remember seeing a book once on Prayers for Teenagers where they weren't the standard sort of prayers but more like 'God, why doesn't my girlfriend like me?; or 'I'm having a bad day today, Lord, what can I do?'

      Then there's prayerbooks for children (nice little pressie for grandparents to buy as gifts) - could also be developed into colouring in books.

      You've got me thinking now!

      Mary
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      • Profile picture of the author ShayB
        Originally Posted by LadyDro View Post

        Its funny that you mentioned the 'Why don't my prayers get answered?' idea my husband is a Church of Christ minister and I thought about writing on that topic after one of his sermons. I may be writing something on it soon. It gets searched a lot.
        It could also be a good Bible study topic.
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  • Profile picture of the author sebritt
    Hi Tiffany,

    The guy who did the Interview with God (theinterviewwithgod.com) has made a LOT of money in this niche. Also Beliefnet is very big as well.

    In the first case, it's about inspiration and Beliefnet provides community.

    Ellen
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    • Profile picture of the author Jacqui
      Tiff- SusanUSA has done well in the Christian market with info products...
      http://www.warriorforum.com/mind-war...revisited.html

      Quote from Susan:

      "I have 1400+ buyers now, so I want to continue to serve them by writing and publishing other books for this genre. I write to the Christian market -- people who are very in tune with God and are hungry to go deeper with Christ. Those of you who are Christians will get what all this means . . . others might not. The bottom line is that there are millions of Christians throughout the world who want their faith to make a bigger difference in their lives. So I have some other books that I want to write to this market."

      Jackie
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      How to meditate properly is another problems many monks face..
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    • Profile picture of the author Lance K
      One of those viral videos about separation of church and state (the whole no God in school thing especially) would be huge IMO. I get lost of forwarded emails on that issue from people in my life that I would NOT consider to be "mainstream religious".


      Originally Posted by sebritt View Post

      Hi Tiffany,

      The guy who did the Interview with God (theinterviewwithgod.com) has made a LOT of money in this niche. Also Beliefnet is very big as well.

      In the first case, it's about inspiration and Beliefnet provides community.

      Ellen
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      • Profile picture of the author Lance K
        How about these for info product ideas...



        How to get your questions about (insert religion here) answered without feeling ostracized

        Ask without embarrassment: A complete beginners guide to (insert religion here)

        A Year With God: (<--- a prepackaged year long bible study plan for new, reborn, etc. Christians)

        How to find a church that's a good fit

        How to start a small group

        How to start a youth ministry

        How to get kids interested in (insert religion here)

        21 ways to entice regular tithing

        Mission Possble: How to find personal satisfaction through mission work
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        • Profile picture of the author tommygadget
          Originally Posted by Lance K View Post

          How about these for info product ideas...

          How to get kids interested in (insert religion here)
          Yes, you can really work with that suggestion. It is a big problem. How about "Why children need religion in their lives." and other similar themes?

          TomG.
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        • Profile picture of the author Michael patrick
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          Originally Posted by Lance K View Post

          How about these for info product ideas...



          How to get your questions about (insert religion here) answered without feeling ostracized

          Ask without embarrassment: A complete beginners guide to (insert religion here)

          A Year With God: (<--- a prepackaged year long bible study plan for new, reborn, etc. Christians)

          How to find a church that's a good fit

          How to start a small group

          How to start a youth ministry

          How to get kids interested in (insert religion here)

          21 ways to entice regular tithing

          Mission Possble: How to find personal satisfaction through mission work
          Let's start with the last one..that's a doozy!...to show that you dont have a clue about missions! you dont find personal satisfaction in doing mission work..YOU ARE CALLED TO IT!!! and you dont do it for personal satisfaction you do it for God and his satisfaction...oh maybe that is where your ebook was going? right? LOL

          Tithing...ummm you cannot and should not and I dont know where you got the crazy idea but "entice tithing"? LOL
          You cant entice anyone to tithe? sorry..you tithe because you want to and if you dont you wont and there are some that do it just because they think it will help them out somehow...bottom line is if you are a true christian you want give God back some of His money because it isnt ours..its Gods just like eveything else is in this world.

          How to get kids interested in religion...umm yea good luck with that one..buddy its in their hearts you cant force anyone or trick anyone into falling into a religion..although I can think of a few that do so maybe this might work for some..but not christianity!

          I could go on and on but I think I proved my point Lance

          Also we get our guidance and advice from someone called "GOD" and the "Bible" and other believers so that should answer your question
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          • Profile picture of the author Lance K
            Originally Posted by Michael patrick View Post

            I could go on and on but I think I proved my point Lance!
            The ONLY thing you proved is that I maybe should have worded my titles differently (I'll freely admit that). The mission one I even thought of at the time, but didn't take the time to edit it, because it was a rough idea. The main point was something for people interested in doing mission work. The tithing one crossed my mind as well, but again it was just a rough idea.

            That's how brainstorming works. You start with rough ideas and tweak where needed.

            If you as a Christian somehow felt insulted and/or threatened by my off the cuff, rough brainstorming mind purge, please know that it was not my intent. I have better things to do.

            Have a good night.
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        • Profile picture of the author creative producer
          Originally Posted by Lance K View Post

          How about these for info product ideas...



          How to get your questions about (insert religion here) answered without feeling ostracized

          Ask without embarrassment: A complete beginners guide to (insert religion here)

          A Year With God: (<--- a prepackaged year long bible study plan for new, reborn, etc. Christians)

          How to find a church that's a good fit

          How to start a small group

          How to start a youth ministry

          How to get kids interested in (insert religion here)

          21 ways to entice regular tithing

          Mission Possble: How to find personal satisfaction through mission work
          Religion and Money
          To pick up on Lance's list, one place where there is an interesting intersection of religion and money is the subject of tithing. For those who may not be familiar with the term, tithing refers to the donation of a portion of one' s income to the source of spiritual support. I have heard various clergy folk speak about tithing as a pathway to prosperity.

          How about an interview series with people who consider this or other religious practices to be key factors in their success?

          Investing from a Religious perspective

          Adding on: Religious Branding Guide
          There are many businesses that stress their religious or spiritual beliefs and consider that focus to be a powerful way of branding themselves. Eg., Mary Kay cosmetics used to use the phrase that went something like, "God first, country second, business third." It was one of the ways they distinguished themselves from other direct selling and party plan companies aimed at women such as Avon.

          So, if cosmetics can be marketed successfully with a religious theme, why not any/every other niche?

          Religion as a Super Sub Niche
          For every popular niche is there a religious sub niche waiting to be explored?
          How about "Where would J_s_s ski? A review site of Christian resorts and vacation destinations?

          Is there a (Christian or Buddhist or ____?______) Marketers Association membership site yet?

          IM for (_____?_____)
          (_____?_______) Social Networking Guide

          Another area that seems to do quite well, though I have no numbers to prove it, is Dating. There are several religious themed dating sites like JDate.com - The Leading Jewish Singles Network! Explore the possibilities. which seems to have lots of happy customers. There are tons of Christian dating sites as well. I'm sure some may have affiliate programs.
          (the above is not an affiliate link. I am not associated with the site). So,

          Religious Affiliate Network
          How about a Religious version of Clickbank? Would people pay a membership fee or pay a higher price for to associate themselves with info products that passed ethical muster with a clergy review board?

          This might meet a real need since one of the big problems people identify is not knowing who to trust.

          Proven Prayers for Golfers?

          No offense meant to anyone or their faith, just exploring ideas. Thanks, CP
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          • Profile picture of the author Michael patrick
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            Originally Posted by creative producer View Post

            Religion and Money
            To pick up on Lance's list, one place where there is an interesting intersection of religion and money is the subject of tithing. For those who may not be familiar with the term, tithing refers to the donation of a portion of one' s income to the source of spiritual support. I have heard various clergy folk speak about tithing as a pathway to prosperity.

            How about an interview series with people who consider this or other religious practices to be key factors in their success?

            Investing from a Religious perspective

            Adding on: Religious Branding Guide
            There are many businesses that stress their religious or spiritual beliefs and consider that focus to be a powerful way of branding themselves. Eg., Mary Kay cosmetics used to use the phrase that went something like, "God first, country second, business third." It was one of the ways they distinguished themselves from other direct selling and party plan companies aimed at women such as Avon.

            So, if cosmetics can be marketed successfully with a religious theme, why not any/every other niche?

            Religion as a Super Sub Niche
            For every popular niche is there a religious sub niche waiting to be explored?
            How about "Where would J_s_s ski? A review site of Christian resorts and vacation destinations?

            Is there a (Christian or Buddhist or ____?______) Marketers Association membership site yet?

            IM for (_____?_____)
            (_____?_______) Social Networking Guide

            Another area that seems to do quite well, though I have no numbers to prove it, is Dating. There are several religious themed dating sites like JDate.com - The Leading Jewish Singles Network! Explore the possibilities. which seems to have lots of happy customers. There are tons of Christian dating sites as well. I'm sure some may have affiliate programs.
            (the above is not an affiliate link. I am not associated with the site). So,

            Religious Affiliate Network
            How about a Religious version of Clickbank? Would people pay a membership fee or pay a higher price for to associate themselves with info products that passed ethical muster with a clergy review board?

            This might meet a real need since one of the big problems people identify is not knowing who to trust.

            Proven Prayers for Golfers?

            No offense meant to anyone or their faith, just exploring ideas. Thanks, CP
            Tithing is giving back to God..nothing else..I could quote many scriptures if you want..It is definitely not a pathway to prosperity and anyone who says that is just selling snake's oil....even to christians..look at this thread for example.

            God is his own Brand...lol..done already..how about baptist..protestant..catholic..first assembly of God..and they all have their own little slogan's which is usually out of the Bible..not God first..country second..which is not at all correct..family second is what the Bible says.

            There are not a whole lot of christian or any religion resorts or getaways to market...plus you go to these through the church not the internet..its all setup through churches.

            Same thing with an affiliate network..have you tried to find many products for christians or religions? not much there..have you ever heard of a christian bookstore? and they dont just sell books they sell everything you need as a christian.

            Like I said before there is not a big enough market and christians just wont buy this stuff (I seriously doubt other faiths will either) not to sound like a broken record but There is a reason why there is no market already..if there way money to be made it would have been done already..but I offer my challenge again..anybody that can prove me wrong..you know where to find me..good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author tommygadget
    There is a very popular "Left Behind" series of books. Kind of awful, but they have a loyal following. You can write about the series and have your amazon links all over there. It is one way to get in that niche.

    TomG.

    Originally Posted by TiffanyDow View Post

    Hi Warriors!

    I'm trying to think of many freebie niches - niches where there's a ton of searches, but as for a paid info product - not so sure!

    One thing I was wondering about is religion. I see tons of searches for God, faith, religion, etc., but as for seeing any "pay-worthy" problem phrases in the list, I didn't see one. By that I mean stuff like, "how to____________" where you'd look at it and say, "Hey I can write an eBook about that."

    Even on Amazon, the only religion books I saw were not problem-solution but more philosophical in nature, which I'm not sure would work so well for an info product.

    Any insight into this niche or other niches you can think of that are big niches, little money?
    Tiff
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    • Profile picture of the author MaskedMarketer
      Originally Posted by TiffanyDow View Post

      One thing I was wondering about is religion. I see tons of searches for God, faith, religion, etc., but as for seeing any "pay-worthy" problem phrases in the list, I didn't see one. By that I mean stuff like, "how to____________" where you'd look at it and say, "Hey I can write an eBook about that."

      Any insight into this niche or other niches you can think of that are big niches, little money?
      Tiff
      Tiffany,

      I'm surprised you brought this up, because many marketers over look this niche for the same reason you've mention. But don't be fooled that you can't make money in this niche. It takes research, education, and creativity to make it work.

      I see "Christian Marketers" put a twist on a lot of things they do.

      And don't let search results fool you. While search results can be different then offline marketing results, numbers don't lie.

      If you've been to a book store, you've probably noticed there is a Religion section, Spiritual, and New age section. All three niches can be tied together and can make you money.

      And... do you know what arguably is the best-selling NON-Fiction book in history?

      The Purpose Driven Life

      30 million copies were sold- and that was by 2006.

      While online search analysis says one thing- offline markets are saying this is a hot topic.

      Do you think you can take a piece of that? Its up to you.

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      • Profile picture of the author Angela V. Edwards
        I can tell you....that book IS very popular? How do you think Pastor Rick Warren became such a big deal and was "friends" with both Obama and McCain? Now, he's slated to do the Inaugural prayer. Trust me, that book put Rick Warren and Saddleback (or whatever it's called) church on the map.


        Originally Posted by MaskedMarketer View Post

        Tiffany,

        I'm surprised you brought this up, because many marketers over look this niche for the same reason you've mention. But don't be fooled that you can't make money in this niche. It takes research, education, and creativity to make it work.

        I see "Christian Marketers" put a twist on a lot of things they do.

        And don't let search results fool you. While search results can be different then offline marketing results, numbers don't lie.

        If you've been to a book store, you've probably noticed there is a Religion section, Spiritual, and New age section. All three niches can be tied together and can make you money.

        And... do you know what arguably is the best-selling NON-Fiction book in history?

        The Purpose Driven Life

        30 million copies were sold- and that was by 2006.

        While online search analysis says one thing- offline markets are saying this is a hot topic.

        Do you think you can take a piece of that? Its up to you.

        The Purpose Driven Life - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    Originally Posted by TiffanyDow View Post

    Hi Warriors!

    I'm trying to think of many freebie niches - niches where there's a ton of searches, but as for a paid info product - not so sure!

    One thing I was wondering about is religion. I see tons of searches for God, faith, religion, etc., but as for seeing any "pay-worthy" problem phrases in the list, I didn't see one. By that I mean stuff like, "how to____________" where you'd look at it and say, "Hey I can write an eBook about that."

    Even on Amazon, the only religion books I saw were not problem-solution but more philosophical in nature, which I'm not sure would work so well for an info product.

    Any insight into this niche or other niches you can think of that are big niches, little money?
    Tiff
    In the religion niche you will find a book on Amazon called "Getting Fired for the Glory of God: Collected Words of Mike Yaconelli" which seems to be popular.

    For an info product why not try public domain works you can adapt or represent? Go to The Online Books Page: Search and type 'religion' into the search box.

    Hope this gives you some ideas.
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  • Profile picture of the author DebbieB
    Another thing that comes to mind is membership sites with a paid forum for these types of niches.

    I'll give you an example. I pay to be a member of a forum for parents of food allergic kids. Mostly participants want support as much as information. The two go together and friendships are formed. We are active in exchanging information and helping each other and that helps us form close bonds. It's not only "what's in it for me?" but "how can I help you?"

    So in the religion niche and others that are harder to monetize, I'd consider providing a support mechanism so that people can reach out to each other. I think that would work well in a lot of situations.


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    • Profile picture of the author Black Hat Cat
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      Fund raising. Churches are always looking for ways to raise money. If you can show them how to do it better, they might be interested in that. Now, that may not be the religion angle you're looking for, but it's an option for anyone who is interested.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tim Dixon
    I'll tell you what, this thread is an inspiration in itself to many marketers on creative thinking when it comes to niche marketing.

    Thanks all.
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  • Profile picture of the author valerieSONORA
    Anything with the word free in it. People are always searching for free this and free that and wouldn't pay a cent for anything.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jason Fenty
      a friend of mine developed an App where it tells you all the prayer times for each day automatically and makes a custom sound when its time for prayer for muslim's. Last time i spoke to him he was doing around 6-7k in monthly revenue.
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    • Profile picture of the author discrat
      Originally Posted by OnlineMasterMind View Post

      I think this is great point... and in terms of the niches you're talking about I really don't think you can find a better example than religion. This exact same subject came up with a friend of mine just recently...

      Take for Joel Osteen for example ( http://JoelOsteen.com ) He obviously does well... very well.

      But imagine if he sold more products online like say e-courses and home study courses... I think the results would be nothing short of incredible. I bet he could multple his epc by 3-10X

      Anybody could do this really... find a pastor - transcribe his sermon and turn it into an ebook - then take more of his content... yeah you get the idea

      You could even do something "God's Guarantee" or... nah, nevermind lol

      Personally, I like to go where the money is... but I think this could work very well. After all, the Bible seems to sell OK...

      Offline, Rick Warren as MM mentioned is just one example and there are many, MANY more (Joyce Mayer, Olsteen, Lucado...etc) It's a proven market and it's just waiting to be crushed online.
      Yeah I have tremendous respect for Joel Osteen. The guy does not take one penny from his Church or Congregation. NO Salary or nothing. And relies on making a Living strictly from his Publishing Business.

      That being said I just personally have some conflict with trying to capitalize off Religion and God. I am not criticizing or judging anyone else , mind you. Being a Christian myself its just something that rubs me the wrong way. I cant even tell you why. Because I am so tuned in to making money outside of the religious realm.

      I just dont think I would be able to focus on maximizing my Capitalistic Yearning and Desires with maximizing my Faith in Christ simultaneously at the exact same time, I guess !! If that make sense ??
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      • Profile picture of the author Michael patrick
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        Originally Posted by discrat View Post

        Yeah I have tremendous respect for Joel Osteen. The guy does not take one penny from his Church or Congregation. NO Salary or nothing. And relies on making a Living strictly from his Publishing Business.

        That being said I just personally have some conflict with trying to capitalize off Religion and God. I am not criticizing or judging anyone else , mind you. Being a Christian myself its just something that rubs me the wrong way. I cant even tell you why. Because I am so tuned in to making money outside of the religious realm.

        I just dont think I would be able to focus on maximizing my Capitalistic Yearning and Desires with maximizing my Faith in Christ simultaneously at the exact same time, I guess !! If that make sense ??
        Makes perfect sense to me..that was a point that I didnt make! Thanks DiscRat
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        • Profile picture of the author discrat
          Originally Posted by OnlineMasterMind View Post

          I understand your points... and I can certainly see how "crushed online" could be misconstrued. But all kidding aside, I was simply pointing out how there are in fact many people who would love the opportunity to pay more in exchange for more value.

          There's nothing wrong with making a lot of money when it comes as the result of serving people - but maybe that's just my opinion. This isn't a market that I'm personally passionate about but I think that my post would be relevant to someone who is.

          You mention that you respect Joel Osteen and I think that's great - I do to.

          But it's also very well known that Joel Osteen has been highly criticized by many for precisely the points you point out.

          Yet the irony is that what you are not comfortable with is a big reason why he has the biggest congregation in the U.S and is able to impact millions around the world.
          I can still respect the guy even though its not my cup of tea to be hawking Christain items. Like I said I am not judging or saying its bad. It just feels weird to me. Thats all.
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          I will say that to NOT take a Church Salary says something about a person. That to me is remarkable and admirable considering others like Benny 'the Hen' who is notorious in staying at $3,000 a night hotels and requesting his followers to swipe their credit cards thru his mobile Credit Card machines he passes around for donations to his Ministry at these huge Revival Arena Shows !!
          Thats Bizarre !!
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      • Profile picture of the author Lance K
        Originally Posted by discrat View Post

        I just dont think I would be able to focus on maximizing my Capitalistic Yearning and Desires with maximizing my Faith in Christ simultaneously at the exact same time, I guess !! If that make sense ??
        Please help me understand this.

        Whether it's capitalism or anything else...

        If it feels wrong when God's involved, how does it not when God isn't? Can you just separate your faith from parts of your life as you see fit?

        And please understand that I wasn't viewing the religion "niche" as a way of "maximizing my capitalistic yearning." I was viewing it as a POTENTIAL way to provide valuable solutions that people want (if they do).
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  • Profile picture of the author Dayne Dylan
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    I remember reading about a guy who had a membership site that gave away 4 complete sermons per month for pastors who were subscribers. I thought that was a PERFECT idea for a niche membership site.

    Even if they did not use the sermons "as is"...it would give them something to go by and a few steps ahead on writing up their own.
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    Oh yeah...and recipes. I know a few, like Willie who did ok with an ebook on this, but I don't think many do. Lots of searches, but lots of free info.
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  • Profile picture of the author knmrwarrior
    Niche - Jobhunters, Subniche - people currently out of work.

    I have a couple of sites in this niche. The traffic is there but for obvious reasons, it's a tough sell. Not impossible, just tough.
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  • Profile picture of the author IMChick
    Great ideas here, but this goes against every piece of guru wisdom that I have in my hard drive!! It's easier to sell in a niche with competition they say, but not too much competition. "They" also say to pass up a thin niche because the money isn't in it.

    I don't understand something. If the a keyword search turns up respectable numbers, then there is potential for a profitable niche, right?

    Is this trying to stay away from reinventing the wheel with the really basic question is how do you monetize a niche without competition?
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    • Profile picture of the author Dan C. Rinnert
      Originally Posted by IMChick View Post

      Great ideas here, but this goes against every piece of guru wisdom that I have in my hard drive!! It's easier to sell in a niche with competition they say, but not too much competition. "They" also say to pass up a thin niche because the money isn't in it.
      Of course, other "gurus" will tell you to follow your passion and that the money will follow.

      Which is why you need to read info from a variety of people, and develop a plan that works for you and your idea(s).
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  • Profile picture of the author ShayB
    If you design the book as a Bible study - type format that can be done in small groups, some churches will purchase it for that purpose.

    Other ideas: "Biblical" guides for making money (although there are lots of those offline, too), Biblical approaches to money management, etc.

    Hope that helps.



    Originally Posted by TiffanyDow View Post

    Hi Warriors!

    I'm trying to think of many freebie niches - niches where there's a ton of searches, but as for a paid info product - not so sure!

    One thing I was wondering about is religion. I see tons of searches for God, faith, religion, etc., but as for seeing any "pay-worthy" problem phrases in the list, I didn't see one. By that I mean stuff like, "how to____________" where you'd look at it and say, "Hey I can write an eBook about that."

    Even on Amazon, the only religion books I saw were not problem-solution but more philosophical in nature, which I'm not sure would work so well for an info product.

    Any insight into this niche or other niches you can think of that are big niches, little money?
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    • Profile picture of the author Kevin Flask
      Hi Tiffany,

      To springboard off of Lance:

      How to start a small group

      How to start a youth ministry
      and Shay:

      If you design the book as a Bible study - type format that can be done in small groups, some churches will purchase it for that purpose.
      Sunday school study guides and lesson plans for adult groups for class facilitators.

      I help faciliate an adult class from time to time, but finding resources to get ideas and lesson plans for is difficult and very time consuming. I would have payed in a heartbeat for one if I found one when I was short on time.

      All the best,

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  • Profile picture of the author Dean Shainin
    Originally Posted by honestbizpro View Post

    True Story,

    My friend Morgan, was trying to get me to join some "Nouveau Riche' real estate investing program. I went to his offices to check it out.

    In the corner I saw lots of calenders, tapes, dvds with religion theme...I never asked, and he never commented.

    Years later I see Morgan is one of the Guest Speakers at World Internet Summit explaining how he made 5 Million dollars with a Private Domain Poem, added nice pictures with music and created www.InterviewWithGod.com

    If you read this Morgan I am still wondering why you didn't cut me in on that one!
    Putting private domain stuff into audio format for people to listen to in their car and other places might be an idea. I wonder if it's already been done with the Bible?

    So many private domain books could be put into audio and digital format.

    EDIT: Someone is already on it but I'm sure one could expound upon it in a big way.
    http://www.founders.org/blog/2008/11...including.html

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    • Profile picture of the author Michael patrick
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      Umm...yeah good luck monetizing God..I dont think most of you know who controls all of this money and EVERYTHING in this world! I think its funny some of these posts and what some warriors think about God and religion..obviously not something they know anything about at all! lol but hey that hasnt stopped some marketers from trying to dig into niches where they know nothing about but this one...well good luck cuz your gonna need it!
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      • Profile picture of the author Thomas Wilkinson
        [quote=Michael patrick;..obviously not something they know anything about at all! lol but hey that hasn't stopped some marketers from trying to dig into niches where they know nothing about but this one...

        I'm probably in about two dozen niches that I knew nothing about at
        the outset. There is a cure for that, LEARN

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        • Profile picture of the author Michael patrick
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          [quote=Thomas Wilkinson;428007][quote=Michael patrick;..obviously not something they know anything about at all! lol but hey that hasn't stopped some marketers from trying to dig into niches where they know nothing about but this one...

          I'm probably in about two dozen niches that I knew nothing about at
          the outset. There is a cure for that, LEARN

          Tom[/quote]

          LOL or convert? you cannot understand religion from the outside looking in..it just doesnt work that way! although many people think they do. Try it Thomas and let me know the feedback you get from Christians (or other religions) they totally see your lack of understanding and fake sales pitches and whatever else you try to throw at them.. I definitely want to hear from anyone on this forum that gives one of these niches a go..but I doubt I will hear from anyone..or if I do it will be totally made up to look good!
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          • Profile picture of the author ShayB
            Originally Posted by Michael patrick View Post

            ..but I doubt I will hear from anyone..or if I do it will be totally made up to look good!
            So, if you don't hear from anyone - it will prove your point (in your mind).

            If you do hear from someone - it will still prove you right (in your mind).

            "Heads I win; tails you lose," right?
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            • Profile picture of the author Michael patrick
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              Lol Shay.. well if someone can provide some solid facts..like testimonials and proofs of income then that would definitely prove me wrong! but you must also have to prove you are not religious as well!

              If you are religious and you know your religion well and you have a great idea or product then you can make good money. What I was saying is if you dont know anything and you try to learn about it then you wont make a dime! There is a reason why there are not many IM'ers in this market..ever think about that? hmm makes you stop and think...




              Originally Posted by ShayRockhold View Post

              So, if you don't hear from anyone - it will prove your point (in your mind).

              If you do hear from someone - it will still prove you right (in your mind).

              "Heads I win; tails you lose," right?
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              • Profile picture of the author ShayB
                Originally Posted by Michael patrick View Post

                Lol Shay.. well if someone can provide some solid facts..like testimonials and proofs of income then that would definitely prove me wrong! but you must also have to prove you are not religious as well!

                If you are religious and you know your religion well and you have a great idea or product then you can make good money. What I was saying is if you dont know anything and you try to learn about it then you wont make a dime! There is a reason why there are not many IM'ers in this market..ever think about that? hmm makes you stop and think...

                LOL I was just poking fun....I thought it was funny the way you phrased it.

                I don't qualify on the "not religious" part anyway. :rolleyes:
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      • Profile picture of the author TiffanyLambert
        Originally Posted by Michael patrick View Post

        Umm...yeah good luck monetizing God..I dont think most of you know who controls all of this money and EVERYTHING in this world! I think its funny some of these posts and what some warriors think about God and religion..obviously not something they know anything about at all! lol but hey that hasnt stopped some marketers from trying to dig into niches where they know nothing about but this one...well good luck cuz your gonna need it!
        Whoa cowboy - we're just analyzing a niche so calm down. You have no idea what mine or anyone else's experience is with God - for all you know I could be best friends with the Pope or an ordained minister. I'm not, but that's not the purpose of the OP.

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        • Profile picture of the author Michael patrick
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          Sorry Tiffany..just going off of some of the posts in here that are ridiculous! I wont name any names to embarass anyone or point fingers! I just find it funny when people try to talk about something they dont have a clue about..that's all..and you can see it clearly from their posts.

          How did you know I was a cowboy? lol




          Originally Posted by TiffanyDow View Post

          Whoa cowboy - we're just analyzing a niche so calm down. You have no idea what mine or anyone else's experience is with God - for all you know I could be best friends with the Pope or an ordained minister. I'm not, but that's not the purpose of the OP.

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      • Profile picture of the author Lance K
        Originally Posted by Michael patrick View Post

        Umm...yeah good luck monetizing God..I dont think most of you know who controls all of this money and EVERYTHING in this world! I think its funny some of these posts and what some warriors think about God and religion..obviously not something they know anything about at all!
        We weren't talking about exploiting religion and/or God for the sole purpose of profit.

        We were brainstorming ways to provide legitimate solutions for people.

        If you think everyone wants to have their questions about religion answered by outspoken, God fearing folks like yourself, you're mistaken.
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        • Profile picture of the author Michael patrick
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          Lance- Umm legitimate solutions to something you know nothing about? yeah uh I dont think I want to hear anything from you! and from the looks of your post you know absolutely nothing about anything even related to religion especially christianity.. I have no idea where your ideas came from but they dont make any sense to me.

          and I dont believe I am the one who is mistaken here about wanting to hear from "outsiders". Are you serious? do you have a clue about anything or anyone religious? We really dont care what you think or say because we are not listening to you! simple as that.



          Originally Posted by Lance K View Post

          We weren't talking about exploiting religion and/or God for the sole purpose of profit.

          We were brainstorming ways to provide legitimate solutions for people.

          If you think everyone wants to have their questions about religion answered by outspoken, God fearing folks like yourself, you're mistaken.
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          • Profile picture of the author Lance K
            Originally Posted by Michael patrick View Post

            Lance- Umm legitimate solutions to something you know nothing about? yeah uh I dont think I want to hear anything from you!
            CONGRATULATIONS...good news is that you don't have to!

            But remember, some of the best solutions in the history of the world were developed by people seeking a solution for their own problem only to find that none existed.

            Originally Posted by Michael patrick View Post

            and from the looks of your post you know absolutely nothing about anything even related to religion especially christianity.. I have no idea where your ideas came from but they dont make any sense to me.
            Well you're wrong. And the fact that they don't make sense to you is part of why there could be merit to them. Because there are people out there who feel like that and genuinely want answers. But evidently you have no interest in helping others find those answers.

            Originally Posted by Michael patrick View Post

            and I dont believe I am the one who is mistaken here about wanting to hear from "outsiders". Are you serious? do you have a clue about anything or anyone religious? We really dont care what you think or say because we are not listening to you! simple as that.
            Please show me where I used the word outsiders (since you decided to use the "").

            Also, who are the "we" and "us" you refer to. I certainly didn't lump all religious or Christian people together. If you want to, that's on you. But anyway, how are those with questions supposed to get answers if you won't listen?

            Anyway, I rest my case. You are not the type of person I would be comfortable approaching for guidance.

            Have a good one.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tom Dean
    Fund raising. Churches are always looking for ways to raise money. If you can show them how to do it better, they might be interested in that. Now, that may not be the religion angle you're looking for, but it's an option for anyone who is interested.
    This looks like an excellent/creative idea. I did a quick research for
    >church fundraising/ fund raising< & it looks like there is plenty of interest/traffic.

    Several authority sites mostly providing fund raising products and plenty of free information and ideas for using the products. Lots of adword ads - mostly products it seemed.

    One thing I did not see (just took a quick look mind you) was a comprehensive guide on how to run/implement a profitable fund raiser.

    If you have ever set on the fund raising board of a parish you may have likely have seen the chaos and mistakes of well intentioned people that simply do not have the experience in successful fund raising.

    I have seen a parish predict thousands raised only to end up barely breaking even. The same parish with the right coaching/implementation (from someone with experience) turned a healthy profit the next year.

    Who knows there may be an online/offline market for a physical guide to successful Church fund raising.

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    • Profile picture of the author ShayB
      Originally Posted by Tom Dean View Post


      Who knows there may be an online/offline market for a physical guide to successful Church fund raising.

      Tom
      I have helped coordinate large fundraisers, and it is not easy, especially when one fundraiser is supposed to raise the yearly budget.

      It is a good offline opportunity as well.

      Another sub-niche: fundraising ideas that do not cost much to do (no inventory or supplies to buy, for instance).
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  • Profile picture of the author Tom Dean
    I have helped coordinate large fundraisers, and it is not easy, especially when one fundrasier is supposed to raise the yearly budget.
    I have felt your pain lol. It took about 3 years to get the right people in place at a particular parish before they started having a good ROI on the fundraisers. Thing is if they leave there is no real guide/manual for the replacements to reference outside of a few notes and vendor contacts.

    Like you said "a good offline opportunity as well".


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    • Profile picture of the author ShayB
      Originally Posted by Tom Dean View Post

      I have felt your pain lol. It took about 3 years to get the right people in place at a particular parish before they started having a good ROI on the fundraisers. Thing is if they leave there is no real guide/manual for the replacements to reference outside of a few notes and vendor contacts.

      Like you said "a good offline opportunity as well".


      Tom
      It really is a big project for the major fundraisers - finding corporate sponsors, coordinating volunteers, etc.

      That is even before the actual fundraising part!
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  • Tiffany (and Michael Patrick),

    I own a "religious" site. It's a PR4, thousands of visitors, good list. Ranks Top 3 on some excellent phrases, including it's primary keyword.

    I monetize it and do VERY well.

    Also have a sister 'satellite' blog - PR3, lots o' visitors, good monetization.

    Tiffany - you should know as well as anyone on here: If "nobody" is doing it because it's "too hard to monetize", well that pretty much says "Golden Opportunity" in neon lights for any seasoned creative marketer. Of course, that may be why you did the OP...

    Tiff- PM me, I'd be happy to discuss with you confidentially.

    Michael Patrick - I knew nothing about this particular area. I bought the site for a very good price from someone who knew the subject extremely well. He created a terrific site - but couldn't monetize it.

    I'm a marketer. I might not have done as good a job creating the site. But I sure can monetize it...

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    • Profile picture of the author Michael patrick
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      Sure would love to see some proof Mark but it seems you are only willing to show Tiffany so I guess I know what that means..but if you have made any money it was because you had a pre built site with traffic built in and almost everything handed to you. All you had to do is monetize it. easy enough.



      Originally Posted by internetmarketer99 View Post

      Tiffany (and Michael Patrick),

      I own a "religious" site. It's a PR4, thousands of visitors, good list. Ranks Top 3 on some excellent phrases, including it's primary keyword.

      I monetize it and do VERY well.

      Also have a sister 'satellite' blog - PR3, lots o' visitors, good monetization.

      Tiffany - you should know as well as anyone on here: If "nobody" is doing it because it's "too hard to monetize", well that pretty much says "Golden Opportunity" in neon lights for any seasoned creative marketer. Of course, that may be why you did the OP...

      Tiff- PM me, I'd be happy to discuss with you confidentially.

      Michael Patrick - I knew nothing about this particular area. I bought the site for a very good price from someone who knew the subject extremely well. He created a terrific site - but couldn't monetize it.

      I'm a marketer. I might not have done as good a job creating the site. But I sure can monetize it...

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      • Profile picture of the author Alan Petersen
        Originally Posted by Michael patrick View Post

        Sure would love to see some proof Mark but it seems you are only willing to show Tiffany so I guess I know what that means..but if you have made any money it was because you had a pre built site with traffic built in and almost everything handed to you. All you had to do is monetize it. easy enough.
        Building the site is the easy part. Making money off of it is the tough part. Who cares if the other person built a popular site but wasn't making money with it (unless he/she just wanted it as a hobby site). Mark's the one doing the heavy lifting in monetizing it--regardless of the niche. Unlike the movie if you build it they won't come--especially with their wallets out.
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      • Originally Posted by Michael patrick View Post

        ... but it seems you are only willing to show Tiffany so I guess I know what that means..
        Michael Patrick,

        I'd be very curious to know what it is you think that "means".

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        • Profile picture of the author Michael patrick
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          Originally Posted by internetmarketer99 View Post

          Michael Patrick,

          I'd be very curious to know what it is you think that "means".

          Mark
          HI Tiffany..sorry didnt mean to hijack your thread..I can delete all my posts if you would like?

          I just meant that Mark didnt offer to show me any proof or anything only you.
          I feel left out is all.
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    • Profile picture of the author BrianTubbs
      As a pastor, I can speak to this (at least as far as Christianity goes)...

      The challenge that the religion niche poses to Internet marketers is that there's PLENTY of info already out there -- that people can access for free or at fairly low-cost.

      You can head to your local library and get books on prayer, practical living, Christian parenting, Christian marriage, etc. from pastors and other Christian counselors. They're plentiful.

      And, of course, you can just go to church. Pastors fill the pulpits every Sunday, preaching on just about any subject you can think of.

      So...unless you're an established authority...it's hard to get consumers to pay for religious-oriented info.

      I am actually the Feature Writer-Columnist for Protestantism at Suite101.com. My site is...

      Protestantism @ Suite101.com: Denominational issues for Anglican, United, Methodist, Lutheran, Adventist, Amish, Baptist, Christian Reformed, Christian Science, Doukhobor and other Christian Protestant churches and clergy.

      And my religious-themed articles don't do nearly as well as the ones I write "off-topic." It's the off-topic Suite101 articles that earn money for me, not my Christian articles. Not generally, anyway.

      HOWEVER........

      I think the best market for the religion niche is the PROVIDER market - i.e., churches, pastors, counselors, etc. THEY will pay money for solutions to help make their lives easier and their work more effective.

      Take pastors, for example....there are quite a few sites out there that offer sermon outlines or full sermons for free or for pay.

      Same thing for Sunday School teachers and Children's Church workers.

      Hope my 2 cents help.
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      • Profile picture of the author ShayB
        Originally Posted by BrianTubbs View Post

        I think the best market for the religion niche is the PROVIDER market - i.e., churches, pastors, counselors, etc. THEY will pay money for solutions to help make their lives easier and their work more effective.

        Take pastors, for example....there are quite a few sites out there that offer sermon outlines or full sermons for free or for pay.

        Same thing for Sunday School teachers and Children's Church workers.

        Hope my 2 cents help.
        I agree. The "providers" are the ones looking for solutions and make up the hungry market.
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      • Profile picture of the author BrianTubbs
        Seems there's been some questions about whether it's ethical or whether we can/should be "comfortable" making money in religion.

        Both Paul and Peter address this subject in their letters (proving that the human race dealt with more or less the same issues 2000 years ago). On the one hand, Paul says that the "laborer is worthy of his wages" (and makes this point in the context of ministry). In other words, it's NOT wrong for a pastor or ministry worker (or, in this case, a faith-based Internet Marketing entrepreneur) to want or even expect financial compensation for his/her work.

        That said...Paul and Peter both warn against pastors who are greedy. Greediness is, in fact, a disqualifier for pastors. And, of course, the Bible condemns covetousness and Jesus encourages us to abide by the "Golden Rule." Good advice for any business venture - no matther the niche.

        The way I see it....When it comes to "making money" in a Christian-oriented niche, you are taking on a higher level of responsibility than in, say, the golf niche. You are dealing with people's hopes, dreams, hearts, and souls. We mustn't play with those things or manipulate those things in pursuit of money. Those marketing in the Christian niche should be truly servant-minded.

        And if one is indeed servant-minded and is serving a Christian-oriented (or any religion-oriented) niche in an open, sincere, and honest manner, then there's NOTHING wrong with making a living at that. Nothing at all.
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    • Profile picture of the author stacyfox
      Oh man PLR sermons. I don't know why that depresses me. I hope they change it at least 30% to avoid duplicate content penalties
      My dad is a pastor and he posts his sermons on the church web site. They took their site down for about six weeks to reconfigure it and the office administrator said that she had at least 25 calls from other pastors during that time asking when the sermons would be back up. Apparently there were A LOT of other pastors using my dad's sermons as a template for their own Sunday messages! (I don't know whether they changed them 30%... )
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  • Profile picture of the author CPAmethods
    I know your probably not interested in this niche but still to this day I think it has the most potential and will always generate the most $$..... porn!
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  • Profile picture of the author TiffanyLambert
    (sigh) why do some people have to come in and crap on a great discussion? TONS of positive posts brainstorming back and forth and then someone comes in to not contribute a single idea - just piss on everyone else.

    Clicking my ignore button now and I suggest everyone else do the same.
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    • Profile picture of the author Lance K
      My apologies, Tiff.

      I really should ignore him.

      Originally Posted by TiffanyDow View Post

      (sigh) why do some people have to come in and crap on a great discussion? TONS of positive posts brainstorming back and forth and then someone comes in to not contribute a single idea - just piss on everyone else.

      Clicking my ignore button now and I suggest everyone else do the same.
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  • Profile picture of the author Matt Bard
    Michael patrick,

    Just three of the thousands of sites that cater to just Christianity alone.

    Start a church
    Startchurch, Inc. - Church incorporation, 501c3 applications, compliance products and conferences

    Church web hosting
    Build free Christian websites - Free Christian web hosting, web design, search engine services - OurChurch.Com

    Ministry design
    Web Design for Your Ministry - Home

    I just sold a church radio site for ministers that I developed and built the backlinks, content, radio downloads, hosted the radio show until it had a following and PR 4.

    I don't know what else you're looking for.

    Matt
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    • Profile picture of the author Michael patrick
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      Originally Posted by Matthew Maiden View Post

      Michael patrick,

      Just three of the thousands of sites that cater to just Christianity alone.

      Start a church
      Startchurch, Inc. - Church incorporation, 501c3 applications, compliance products and conferences

      Church web hosting
      Build free Christian websites - Free Christian web hosting, web design, search engine services - OurChurch.Com

      Ministry design
      Web Design for Your Ministry - Home

      I just sold a church radio site for ministers that I developed and built the backlinks, content, radio downloads, hosted the radio show until it had a following and PR 4.

      I don't know what else you're looking for.

      Matt
      ALL of those were built by christians and for christians..exactly my point! everything the churches need is done in house..we have our own technology departments..guys who build our websites..market whatever we need..develop innovative ways to do stuff..there is no need for us to go out on the internet and ask people we dont even know for their advice on our faith or how to do this or that?
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      • Profile picture of the author Dan C. Rinnert
        Originally Posted by Michael patrick View Post

        ALL of those were built by christians and for christians..exactly my point! everything the churches need is done in house..we have our own technology departments..guys who build our websites..market whatever we need..develop innovative ways to do stuff..there is no need for us to go out on the internet and ask people we dont even know for their advice on our faith or how to do this or that?
        Wow. I guess the churches in my area haven't been assimilated into your Borg Collective yet then.
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        • Profile picture of the author Marhelper
          Michael patrick ... How on earth do I get rid of this guys posts? Dude, you are donig nothing to support your claims to be "One of those." Can you kindly take a huge chill and leave this thread alone. You are not contributing anything!!!
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        • Profile picture of the author IMChick
          Originally Posted by Michael patrick View Post

          ALL of those were built by christians and for christians..exactly my point! everything the churches need is done in house..we have our own technology departments..guys who build our websites..market whatever we need..develop innovative ways to do stuff..there is no need for us to go out on the internet and ask people we dont even know for their advice on our faith or how to do this or that?
          Give it a rest & get a thicker skin where this subject is concerned. This is a business discussion, nothing more, nothing less. Your hijacking of a brainstorming thread by making personal attacks and your self-appointed superior knowledge is hypocritical and contrary to the teachings that you feel that no-one else could possibly have any experience with. Leave the thread and move on--we are discussing business applications of a niche, personal feelings are irrelevant.

          Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert View Post

          Wow. I guess the churches in my area haven't been assimilated into your Borg Collective yet then.
          I couldn't have said this better myself!
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        • Profile picture of the author ShayB
          Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert View Post

          Wow. I guess the churches in my area haven't been assimilated into your Borg Collective yet then.
          Are you sure?

          (Kidding! I'm kidding!)
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          • Profile picture of the author IMChick
            Originally Posted by ShayRockhold View Post

            Are you sure?

            (Kidding! I'm kidding!)

            Shay,
            That's an absolutely 'adorable' borg emoticon you have there. Stellar!
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            • Profile picture of the author ShayB
              Originally Posted by IMChick View Post

              Shay,
              That's an absolutely 'adorable' borg emoticon you have there. Stellar!
              Thanks! I love it.

              (Now, if I could just find more Trekkie emoticons....)
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          • Profile picture of the author BrianTubbs
            LOVE the Borg icon, Shay!!!
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            • Profile picture of the author ShayB
              Originally Posted by BrianTubbs View Post

              LOVE the Borg icon, Shay!!!

              Thank you!
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            • Profile picture of the author BrianTubbs
              Just to clarify....

              Michael...yes...we do capture emails on visitor cards. We just haven't got a good capture up on our website yet, although there IS one (it's just not a good one). I have work to do.

              IMChick...yes....shame on me, but I'm still learning.
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              • Profile picture of the author Michael patrick
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                Originally Posted by BrianTubbs View Post

                Just to clarify....

                Michael...yes...we do capture emails on visitor cards. We just haven't got a good capture up on our website yet, although there IS one (it's just not a good one). I have work to do.

                IMChick...yes....shame on me, but I'm still learning.
                Pastor Brian- If you need any help with creating a better or new opt-in box and capture system let me know. I can help you out or I am good friends with my church's web designer and he has done some amazing things with our website and blog. and there would not be any charge so dont worry about that!
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            • Profile picture of the author ShayB
              Originally Posted by BrianTubbs View Post

              LOVE the Borg icon, Shay!!!

              Hey! A new sermon title: "Resistance is Futile."

              (Not sure what the topic would be, but the title would get some attention. )
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              • Profile picture of the author IMChick
                Originally Posted by ShayRockhold View Post

                Hey! A new sermon title: "Resistance is Futile."

                (Not sure what the topic would be, but the title would get some attention. )
                Cute! We're actually re-watching all 7 seasons of Star Trek Voyager now. The weather is really bad here and it's taken us months to go through the series so I am ready to win any trivia contests as an authority on this, at least in my own mind.

                Here's the thing, though, Shay, you really hit on it here...

                Consider:
                • Autonomy, individuality and the quest for perfection
                • The community (collective) and it's teachings
                • Outsiders and what they can teach us about ourselves
                • Helping others in need by being mindful
                • Managing the flock when the quest seems pointless
                • Our thought and the dangers of (mind-melds) negativity
                Go figure.
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                • Profile picture of the author ShayB
                  Originally Posted by IMChick View Post

                  Cute! We're actually re-watching all 7 seasons of Star Trek Voyager now. The weather is really bad here and it's taken us months to go through the series so I am ready to win any trivia contests as an authority on this, at least in my own mind.

                  Here's the thing, though, Shay, you really hit on it here...

                  Consider:
                  • Autonomy, individuality and the quest for perfection
                  • The community (collective) and it's teachings
                  • Outsiders and what they can teach us about ourselves
                  • Helping others in need by being mindful
                  • Managing the flock when the quest seems pointless
                  • Our thought and the dangers of (mind-melds) negativity
                  Go figure.
                  I love ST:VOY!!!! I am getting the boxed set!

                  Anyway, I think you have come up with the right idea - taking a familiar phrase or idea that people know about and use it to illustrate a Biblical issue.
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      • Profile picture of the author Matt Bard
        Originally Posted by Michael patrick View Post

        ALL of those were built by christians
        Where in my post did I tell you that I was a Christian?

        I told you that I just developed and sold a Christian Radio site that I wrote all of the content and even hosted the radio program to get it off the ground.

        I wrote several articles around it and brought it up to a PR 4 before selling it.

        I am doing the same thing right now with another site. A Christian church site.

        Also, if you type "get ordained" into Google you will find one of my sites on the front page. I won't tell you which one because I am still working a deal with that one.

        If you don't think there is any money in ordaining people online just follow the links a little deeper. Just this past year some big celebrities were ordained through the organization that I design for. They were all over the news about marrying their friends.

        I have written about starting a wedding ministry. ( I just gave you one to check on) Type that in Google. It won't be hard to find me. You have to admit that the wedding industry is pretty huge right?

        Well what if I can ordain you, teach you how to design your web ministry, sell you a book about performing ceremonies?

        Would that qualify? My point is that I have been in this niche for years. Offline then on and I never said that I was a Christian.

        Matt
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        • Profile picture of the author Michael patrick
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          Originally Posted by Matthew Maiden View Post

          Where in my post did I tell you that I was a Christian?

          I told you that I just developed and sold a Christian Radio site that I wrote all of the content and even hosted the radio program to get it off the ground.

          I wrote several articles around it and brought it up to a PR 4 before selling it.

          I am doing the same thing right now with another site. A Christian church site.

          Also, if you type "get ordained" into Google you will find one of my sites on the front page. I won't tell you which one because I am still working a deal with that one.

          If you don't think there is any money in ordaining people online just follow the links a little deeper. Just this past year some big celebrities were ordained through the organization that I design for. They were all over the news about marrying their friends.

          I have written about starting a wedding ministry. ( I just gave you one to check on) Type that in Google. It won't be hard to find me. You have to admit that the wedding industry is pretty huge right?

          Well what if I can ordain you, teach you how to design your web ministry, sell you a book about performing ceremonies?

          Would that qualify? My point is that I have been in this niche for years. Offline then on and I never said that I was a Christian.

          Matt

          Matt- Ordained ministers doesnt really have anything to do with religion because like you said anybody can do it! It used to be something sacred and only ministers could marry couples but somewhere down the line somebody thought why cant everybody do this? and laws got changed.

          Your point being that you are not a christian and have made good money off of christians I cant wait to see some solid evidence of that and I will swallow my pride and come in here and eat my own words but your ideas matt our decent I was laughing more at the ridiculous ideas of others who have not thought out thier ideas at all. To Lance we already had a private discussion and he admited that he didnt thoroughly think out his ideas he just threw them out there and I apologized for being combative and defensive but I am just having fun laughing at all of these ridiculous ways to monetize something which a lot of warriors know absoletely nothing about! Its just funny that's all.

          Who said something about being a hypocryte? LOL that's too funny...I love it when you guys call us hypocrytes! LOL even if we did...like you never do the same exact things..more so than us! LOL
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          • Profile picture of the author Matt Bard
            Originally Posted by Michael patrick View Post

            Your point being that you are not a christian
            I never said this. I never said I was a Christian which you attributed to me and I never said I wasn't which you just did this again. I never said one way or the other. Big assumption on your part. Twice.

            So, isn't it also possible that you are assuming that one would have to be a Christian to sell to Christians, or maybe you are really trying to say that in order to sell to a group you really need to know that group.

            If that is the underlying point of your argument then I would have to agree to a certain extent. Yes it makes it easier to sell to group if you belong to that group but I know that it is not necessary.

            I don't have to be a woman to sell shoes to a lady. Same with a ton of other niches we are all trying to sell to based on keywords.

            Matt
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            • Profile picture of the author Michael patrick
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              Originally Posted by Matthew Maiden View Post

              I never said this. I never said I was a Christian which you attributed to me and I never said I wasn't which you just did this again. I never said one way or the other. Big assumption on your part. Twice.

              So, isn't it also possible that you are assuming that one would have to be a Christian to sell to Christians, or maybe you are really trying to say that in order to sell to a group you really need to know that group.

              If that is the underlying point of your argument then I would have to agree to a certain extent. Yes it makes it easier to sell to group if you belong to that group but I know that it is not necessary.

              I don't have to be a woman to sell shoes to a lady. Same with a ton of other niches we are all trying to sell to based on keywords.

              Matt
              Matt: LOL and I quote you "Would that qualify? My point is that I have been in this niche for years. Offline then on and I never said that I was a Christian."

              AM I reading this wrong?

              "or maybe you are really trying to say that in order to sell to a group you really need to know that group."

              Some of what I am saying but not all.. what makes the christian niche different is that what we believe and use as a base for our beliefs is the God's word, the Bible is very hard to interpret for non-believers..they can read it and think they know exactly what its saying but unless you have the holy spirit living within you speaking to you then you cannot know what God meant when he wrote it. its a very hard niche to know and get to know unless you are on the inside. Unlike most niches where you can learn a lot from studying it. I am not saying you cant but it would be a lot harder than any other niche in the world. You have done well with certain things within this niche but it doesnt look like you have dug in too deep like some of these other ideas would suggest. If you have the right product or services you can do this.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bayo
    Originally Posted by honestbizpro View Post

    True Story,

    My friend Morgan, was trying to get me to join some "Nouveau Riche' real estate investing program. I went to his offices to check it out.

    In the corner I saw lots of calenders, tapes, dvds with religion theme...I never asked, and he never commented.

    Years later I see Morgan is one of the Guest Speakers at World Internet Summit explaining how he made 5 Million dollars with a Private Domain Poem, added nice pictures with music and created www.InterviewWithGod.com

    If you read this Morgan I am still wondering why you didn't cut me in on that one!
    Norman..wise guy!
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  • Profile picture of the author LarryC
    Probably anything to do with popular culture. People search for this all the time, but are looking for free info, not to buy something. For example,

    Celebrity gossip
    Recent and upcoming movie releases
    Popular music
    Television - reality shows, American Idol, whatever is popular right now...
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  • Profile picture of the author IMChick
    I'm going to be really blunt here. I would like to hear from others back on topic on solid business ideas similar to the request in the OP. (If you think I'm referring to you and asking you to butt out and take it somewhere else, I am. It doesn't belong here.)

    As far as that goes, many people both on and offline own and operate businesses in niches where they do not personally resonate with the target audience or have expert knowledge in their chosen field, so that argument is flawed. If someone is fortunate enough to be able to spot a business opportunity, they can have curly hair or believe the world is flat and it doesn't matter.

    What kind of research do you need to be able to spot thin niches and determine how to expand and monetize them?
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    • Profile picture of the author ShayB
      Originally Posted by IMChick View Post

      I'm going to be really blunt here. I would like to hear from others back on topic on solid business ideas similar to the request in the OP. (If you think I'm referring to you and asking you to butt out and take it somewhere else, I am. It doesn't belong here.)

      As far as that goes, many people both on and offline own and operate businesses in niches where they do not personally resonate with the target audience or have expert knowledge in their chosen field, so that argument is flawed. If someone is fortunate enough to be able to spot a business opportunity, they can have curly hair or believe the world is flat and it doesn't matter.

      What kind of research do you need to be able to spot thin niches and determine how to expand and monetize them?
      I think it really comes down to thinking outside of the box. Yes, it is an overused phrease, but it is the only one I can think of. LOL

      If no one is making money doing the "same old, same old," then you need a new twist to make money with it.

      Cater to the larger niche in the niche. For example, why not cater your product/service to appeal to chruches instead of individuals? It makes sense to me.

      If you sell a book to a person, you sell one book.

      If you sell a book as a Bible Study to a church, you sell hundreds.

      It just makes sense to me.
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    • Profile picture of the author Matt Bard
      Originally Posted by IMChick View Post

      (If you think I'm referring to you and asking you to butt out and take it somewhere else, I am. It doesn't belong here.)
      Was that for me?

      I thought I was trying to give examples of selling to Big Niches.

      Matt
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      • Profile picture of the author IMChick
        Originally Posted by Matthew Maiden View Post

        Was that for me?

        I thought I was trying to give examples of selling to Big Niches.

        Matt
        Nope, not you, silly.

        I enjoyed your posts and actually stopped what I was doing and clicked through and learned a lot from your links. It's actually fascinating to see the finished product in an area I wouldn't regularly research. It was good theory to application to see how someone took a Big Niche and drilled down into a sub-niche and what was done once it was identified and made profitable. Thanks!
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        • Profile picture of the author Matt Bard
          Originally Posted by IMChick View Post

          Nope, not you, silly.
          I got caught up in the discussion and trying to wade through all of the misconceptions that someone could have about selling to groups (whew a mouthful), anyway I wasn't sure if I was adding fuel to the fire and that's what you were referring to.

          Thanks

          Matt
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        • Profile picture of the author IMChick
          Originally Posted by BrianTubbs View Post


          There are possibilities.
          Absolutely. (And shame on you for not capturing email addresses on your own sites!) It's exactly as Shay said above, "think outside the box"

          Originally Posted by ShayRockhold View Post

          I agree. The "providers" are the ones looking for solutions and make up the hungry market.
          Yup. The hungry market is huge in this area. Does it need to be molded or shaped into a buying market? Some other niches need to be trained. How responsive is the current market? There certainly seems to be quite a bit of growth potential if the target market has the proper focus directed toward it.

          Originally Posted by Thomas Wilkinson View Post

          aaaaaaaahhhhhhhh Finally found the ignore thingy.

          Tom
          Sheesh. THANK YOU. Ahhh, niiiice.
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    • Profile picture of the author Michael patrick
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      Originally Posted by IMChick View Post

      I'm going to be really blunt here. I would like to hear from others back on topic on solid business ideas similar to the request in the OP. (If you think I'm referring to you and asking you to butt out and take it somewhere else, I am. It doesn't belong here.)

      As far as that goes, many people both on and offline own and operate businesses in niches where they do not personally resonate with the target audience or have expert knowledge in their chosen field, so that argument is flawed. If someone is fortunate enough to be able to spot a business opportunity, they can have curly hair or believe the world is flat and it doesn't matter.

      What kind of research do you need to be able to spot thin niches and determine how to expand and monetize them?
      Whatever happened to what everyone always preaches on the WF about doing what you are passionate about? do something you know atleast a little bit about? throw that all out the window when you want to attack someone who doesnt agree with you?

      @onlinemastersomething?- off of? umm..my belief on money is that its not mine its God's like I have said before..everything in this world is God's and guess what you cant take it with you when you go! LOL That's why I spend my time and money on things that matter for eternity and not in this short life. I have been truly blessed with making a lot of money and choose not to build up material worthless possessions but give back and help others in need. THAT is my BELIEF about MONEY!
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  • Profile picture of the author Thomas Wilkinson
    aaaaaaaahhhhhhhh Finally found the ignore thingy.

    Tom
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    • Profile picture of the author IMChick
      Originally Posted by Thomas Wilkinson View Post

      aaaaaaaahhhhhhhh Finally found the ignore thingy.

      Tom
      Please help a fellow warrior in need--I can't figure out where it is, and believe me, if I knew about it, I would use it...
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      • Profile picture of the author Michael patrick
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        Please help a fellow warrior in need--I can't figure out where it is, and believe me, if I knew about it, I would use it...
        IM chick I believe it was discussed in another thread..and I believe its....found it

        Under their profile picture on their public profile page, there's a "user lists" link. Click on it and you'll see the ignore list option.
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael patrick
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    Thank you Pastor Brian..but isnt the tools for pastors and teachers pretty saturated as well..my pastors office has more tools and books than the county library does! Tons of tools and books in the christian bookstores and online at the big christian websites to choose from so unless you could come up with something totally innovative and creative it would be hard to sell something like this..thoughts Brian?
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    • Profile picture of the author BrianTubbs
      Originally Posted by Michael patrick View Post

      Thank you Pastor Brian..but isnt the tools for pastors and teachers pretty saturated as well..my pastors office has more tools and books than the county library does! Tons of tools and books in the christian bookstores and online at the big christian websites to choose from so unless you could come up with something totally innovative and creative it would be hard to sell something like this..thoughts Brian?
      Yeah...you're right, esp when you're talking about Bible study kits, etc.

      If I had the time/resources/etc. to develop an IM business targeting churches and pastors, one area I'd focus on would be pre-marital counseling (preparing pre-marital counseling 'kits' that include personality surveys, Bible study booklets, videos, etc. - all in a pre-determined sequence/outline).

      Another area would be complete website/e-newsletter package. Not many churches have websites that capture prospective email addresses. In fact, I can't think of ANY that do that. We don't even do that (yet) , although we do have an e-newsletter, which we promote.

      One thing I've thought about doing (but would need help) would be a membership site for pastors.

      There are possibilities.
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      • Profile picture of the author Michael patrick
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        Originally Posted by BrianTubbs View Post

        Yeah...you're right, esp when you're talking about Bible study kits, etc.

        If I had the time/resources/etc. to develop an IM business targeting churches and pastors, one area I'd focus on would be pre-marital counseling (preparing pre-marital counseling 'kits' that include personality surveys, Bible study booklets, videos, etc. - all in a pre-determined sequence/outline).

        Another area would be complete website/e-newsletter package. Not many churches have websites that capture prospective email addresses. In fact, I can't think of ANY that do that. We don't even do that (yet) , although we do have an e-newsletter, which we promote.

        One thing I've thought about doing (but would need help) would be a membership site for pastors.

        There are possibilities.
        Brian, My church captures all email addresses and has been for a few years now. On the green cards. I know of several others that do the same so they can mail out their newsletters and special events and such. Simple enough right? get them all in one shoot the first time you do it then when new members come in you add to the list.

        The membership site for pastors would be good. If we could get a great leader to run one..someone like say Charles Stanly or Franklin Graham or maybe Greg Laurie. We do have a small county wide association of pastors network here on the central coast that meets quartely and goes once a year to a huge conference for pastors. That might be the place to approach this subject. I think the next one is coming up soon.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Rowe
    Dear Michael,

    I just got off the phone with God.

    He called me because He has been following this thread, and He read the part where you said you weren't going to listen. He told me that He knows you to be this way, but that He didn't want to take the time to give you another rash. Instead, He decided to call me because He knew I was just watching Oprah again.

    Anyway, He told me to tell you politely (and He hit the word politely a little too hard if you ask me) that you are a Bad Advertisement for Him. He asked me to tell you to cut-it-out. He also wanted me to remind you about that 'two ears, one mouth' thing again too. Then He mentioned something about too much masturbation. But to be honest, I'm not sure if He meant you or me. Either way, He wants that to stop too.

    He finished the call with His usual pleasantries, and so I figured I'd ask Him the same thing I always ask Him, hoping this time He'd give me a strait answer.

    "God," I said, "Can you, or can you not, create a boulder so heavy that even you can't lift it?"

    Then, after a brief silence... I thanked Him for my new rash.
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    • Profile picture of the author Michael patrick
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      Originally Posted by John Rowe View Post

      Dear Michael,

      I just got off the phone with God.

      He called me because He has been following this thread and He read the post where you said you weren't listening. He told me that He knows you to be this way, but that He didn't want to take the time to give you another rash. Instead, He decided to call me because He knew I was just wasting my time watching Oprah again.

      Anyway, He told me to tell you politely (He hit the word politely a little too hard if you ask me) that you are a Bad Advertisement for Him. He asked me to tell you to cut-it-out. He also wanted me to remind you about that 'two ears, one mouth' thing again too. Then He mentioned something about too much masturbation. But to be honest, I'm not sure if He meant you or me. Either way, He wants that to stop too.

      He finished the call with His usual pleasantries, and so I figured I'd ask Him what I always ask Him, hoping that this time He'd give me an answer.

      "God," I said, "Can you, or can you not, create a boulder that even you can't lift?"

      Then, after a short silence, I thanked Him for my new rash.

      LOL funny stuff! I dont care who you are! well except the masturbation part...he was definitely talking to you!

      AM I coming off the wrong way still? I am just trying to discuss things..I am not trying to be combative or defensive or attack anyone but it seems a lot of warriors try to attack a lot of other warriors in these forums if they try to give an opionion that they dont agree with or dont like. I really dont care what other people think or believe..all that matter to me is what GOd thinks and I know he knows that I am doing a great job and my best so I have no need to worry about anything I have said or done.
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      • Profile picture of the author ExRat
        Hi,

        Originally Posted by Michael patrick View Post

        I really dont care what other people think or believe..all that matter to me is what GOd thinks and I know he knows that I am doing a great job and my best so I have no need to worry about anything I have said or done.
        Sorry to bump this, I'm not sure how I came across it while reading through the forum. Although it was a train-wreck, I learnt something from it.

        After reading through all of this thread, the above paragraph stuck in my head. It explains a lot to me about what is wrong with many people in the world.
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  • Profile picture of the author John M Kane
    Didn't Frank Kern use Tattooing as an example of a rabid group who will spend thousands on tattoos but not info product?

    Also, me being Polish,you should avoid Charnina recipes books cuz' it's mostly just duck blood soup. NOT good.

    Turkish towel twirling(or is it tossing) might be a no go as well.

    1001 ways to break rocks for the 5-10 freedom challenged=Not

    Cool Fun Things to Do With Gamma's Bunion Shavings=Not

    Drive Thru Boil Lancing Parlor Franchise Millions=Definite maybe,get search vol

    Wallpapering Your Den with Citibank Stock Certificates=Yeah Baby

    Unauthorized Bio of PrezElect Obama,"Hey, I don't Inhale! I just want to look Cool" By Philip Morris Marlboro (Free lighters with his mug on them incl)

    Windows 7's Tips and Tricks NOT the evil spawn of Vista=GO
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  • Profile picture of the author John Rowe
    Originally Posted by Matias1021 View Post

    disregard this, just trying to get to 30..
    Now that's funny! And, the most honest post I've ever read.
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    • Profile picture of the author IMChick
      Originally Posted by John Rowe View Post

      Now that's funny! And, the most honest post I've ever read.
      You know, I would have hit the "thanks" button but I'm still laughing too hard from your last post. Go figure--a comedy writer. Now that's a niche to exploit! Thanks for the great laugh.
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  • Profile picture of the author Matt Bard
    Brian
    You can learn enough to become the Minister of Marketing helping churches grow. Your sermons would be more like a seminar and instead of stained glass behind you on the stage would be a big flat screen monitor where you could show your flock the way to more fund raising dollars.

    You could write books like Keyword Converts, and The Gospel according to Google.
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    • Profile picture of the author BrianTubbs
      Originally Posted by Matthew Maiden View Post

      Brian
      You can learn enough to become the Minister of Marketing helping churches grow. Your sermons would be more like a seminar and instead of stained glass behind you on the stage would be a big flat screen monitor where you could show your flock the way to more fund raising dollars.

      You could write books like Keyword Converts, and The Gospel according to Google.
      LOL-I love it! Very clever. I would just have to be careful not to preach that on Sunday morning. "Today, ladies and gentlemen, we cover the Gospel According to Google.....er...sorry, wrong notes."
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  • Profile picture of the author Matt Bard
    Hey Shay,
    since we are on the topic...do you have any Start Trek sites? And if no then why not? You obviously know enough to keep a decent blog going.

    Matt
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    • Profile picture of the author ShayB
      Originally Posted by Matthew Maiden View Post

      Hey Shay,
      since we are on the topic...do you have any Start Trek sites? And if no then why not? You obviously know enough to keep a decent blog going.

      Matt
      No, because I cannot figure out how to monetize a site without the whole "Star Trek doesn't belong to me so I can't make money from it without being sued" thing. Bummer.
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      • Profile picture of the author IMChick
        Originally Posted by ShayRockhold View Post

        No, because I cannot figure out how to monetize a site without the whole "Star Trek doesn't belong to me so I can't make money from it without being sued" thing. Bummer.

        No kidding. That's the pity. But you get the idea. Strong female space warrior by day and IM warrior by night. Or something like that.

        Or maybe it's something as simple as 'belief & popular media'. That's definitely familiar and can illustrate those concepts--oh boy, not all in a good way, either.
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    • Profile picture of the author IMChick
      Originally Posted by Matthew Maiden View Post

      I got caught up in the discussion and trying to wade through all of the misconceptions that someone could have about selling to groups (whew a mouthful), anyway I wasn't sure if I was adding fuel to the fire and that's what you were referring to.

      Thanks

      Matt
      Not at all. That fire was burning itself up and looking for some fuel, and had nothing to do with any of us. I'm surprised that he's still here and that no-one reported him.
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    • Profile picture of the author ShayB
      Originally Posted by Matthew Maiden View Post

      Hey Shay,
      since we are on the topic...do you have any Start Trek sites? And if no then why not? You obviously know enough to keep a decent blog going.

      Matt
      PS - I did start a blog when I lived on Jedi Street (No, I am not kidding) and my friends thought it was hilarious that a Trekkie lived on Jedi Street.

      Haven't done much with it since I moved, though.
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  • Profile picture of the author Matt Bard
    Shay,
    Do a search to see if anyone has a license for shirts and novelties and see about the affiliate programs. There is also Adsense.

    Matt
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    • Profile picture of the author ShayB
      Originally Posted by Matthew Maiden View Post

      Shay,
      Do a search to see if anyone has a license for shirts and novelties and see about the affiliate programs. There is also Adsense.

      Matt
      Thanks!
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    • Profile picture of the author ShayB
      Originally Posted by Matthew Maiden View Post

      Shay,
      Do a search to see if anyone has a license for shirts and novelties and see about the affiliate programs. There is also Adsense.

      Matt
      Ok, great. Now I found all kinds of stuff I want to buy. (Like who doesn't want a Klingon disruptor, right??? How cool is that??? And I get a commission on it, too?? Pinch me. I am dreaming....)
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      • Profile picture of the author IMChick
        Originally Posted by Matthew Maiden View Post

        IMChick think you're right about that.

        Shay, look for novelty companies or stores that already sell those items because they have the license to. Then see if those companies have affiliates. If they don't then write them a little email asking if they have sub-distributors and what it would take to be one.

        You never know. And wouldn't that be cool.

        Matt

        p.s. and if you get a deal then don't forget I get a discount on a Spock bobblehead.
        Originally Posted by ShayRockhold View Post

        Ok, great. Now I found all kinds of stuff I want to buy. (Like who doesn't want a Klingon disruptor, right??? How cool is that??? And I get a commission on it, too?? Pinch me. I am dreaming....)
        Hey, you two, what about ME?
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          Originally Posted by IMChick View Post

          Hey, you two, what about ME?
          You get a phaser.
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        • Profile picture of the author ShayB
          Originally Posted by IMChick View Post

          Hey, you two, what about ME?
          Do you want a Klingon disruptor, too?

          We are going to be the coolest people on the whole WF....
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            Originally Posted by ShayRockhold View Post

            Nooooo problem!

            I can see it now:

            "Dear Mr. Distributor,

            Can I PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE be a sub-contractor so I can sell your cool stuff to my friends? PLEEEEASE????"
            This is when you should pick up the phone and call the affiliate manager, like they do in the CPA networks!

            Originally Posted by Matthew Maiden View Post

            You get a phaser.
            A phaser is good, a tri-quarter is better ...

            Originally Posted by ShayRockhold View Post

            Do you want a Klingon disruptor, too?

            We are going to be the coolest people on the whole WF....
            We're already the coolest!
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            • Profile picture of the author ShayB
              Originally Posted by IMChick View Post

              We're already the coolest!
              Well, that's true!
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              • Profile picture of the author BrianTubbs
                Never got into Voyager or Deep Space Nine.

                I'm a HUGE fan of the original series and the movies with the (original) Kirk, Spock, and McCoy (except for Star Trek V, which I prefer to think didn't happen - it was an unfortunate alternate universe anomaly).

                And I like The Next Generation, especially Season 3 on. It seemed to hit its stride at that point.

                Oh....and can I have a photon torpedo launcher? Would be great in traffic.

                Okay...back on topic (sort of)...

                I would think you could do a Star Trek blog -- no problem. There are fan sites all over the place for Star Trek, Star Wars, Stargate, etc. As for monetizing it, you COULD do one of two things...

                1. Sign up as an affiliate or sub-distributor (as has already been suggested) and/or

                2. Don't monetize it....just build up a large community, a big list, etc....and then look for creative ways to MIGRATE those folks over to something that you CAN monetize

                For example....you could do a series on "Leadership Tips from Captain Kirk" or something like that, and then link over to an Adsense leadership site that you have - or to an EZA article that links to a related aff product. You get the idea.
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            • Profile picture of the author Dan C. Rinnert
              Originally Posted by IMChick View Post

              A phaser is good, a tri-quarter is better ...
              I'd prefer a tricorder, but to each his own.

              Y'all can have the phasers and Klingon disruptors. I have the good ol' NCC-1701. No bloody A, B, C, D, or E!

              Oh, and also one of those Bodum glasses they used in 10-Forward on TNG.
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              • Profile picture of the author ShayB
                Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert View Post

                Oh, and also one of those Bodum glasses they used in 10-Forward on TNG.
                Oh, heck yeah! I'll bet I can find one of those somewhere.....lemme do a Google search... *typing frantically*
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                • Profile picture of the author Dan C. Rinnert
                  Originally Posted by ShayRockhold View Post

                  Oh, heck yeah! I'll bet I can find one of those somewhere.....lemme do a Google search... *typing frantically*
                  The electronic Holy Grail might be finding someone who tweets only in Klingon! Qapla!
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                  • Profile picture of the author ShayB
                    Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert View Post

                    The electronic Holy Grail might be finding someone who tweets only in Klingon! Qapla!
                    Do you Tweet in Klingon?? Yay!

                    My Hubby's only flaw is that he doesn't speak Klingon.
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                    • Profile picture of the author Dan C. Rinnert
                      Originally Posted by ShayRockhold View Post

                      My Hubby's only flaw is that he doesn't speak Klingon.
                      jIyaj.

                      I just sent you a tweet. Found a Klingon tweeter! Sort of.
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                      • Profile picture of the author ShayB
                        Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert View Post

                        jIyaj.

                        I just sent you a tweet. Found a Klingon tweeter! Sort of.
                        Cool! My first Klingon Tweet! (I am so excited!)

                        ETA: You didn't tweet in Klingon....that's okay. I was so excited I read your post wrong. I am still excited, though.
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                        • Profile picture of the author Dan C. Rinnert
                          Originally Posted by ShayRockhold View Post

                          Cool! My first Klingon Tweet! (I am so excited!)

                          ETA: You didn't tweet in Klingon....that's okay. I was so excited I read your post wrong. I am still excited, though.
                          I've got other people interested in finding such a tweeter now too. Some of them are people I'd never have expected.

                          Oh my, this thread has taken some wild turns, hasn't it? From a religious debate to Klingons. Maybe we can talk about Stovokor and bring it full circle. LOL!
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                      • Profile picture of the author ShayB
                        Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert View Post

                        jIyaj.

                        I just sent you a tweet. Found a Klingon tweeter! Sort of.
                        Thanks! I followed him and all of his followers (well, except one).
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                        • Profile picture of the author Dan C. Rinnert
                          Originally Posted by ShayRockhold View Post

                          Thanks! I followed him and all of his followers (well, except one).
                          I know which one. LOL!
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                            Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert View Post

                            I know which one. LOL!
                            ROTFL....um...yeah. Not the kind of Klingon chit chat I am looking for. :rolleyes:
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                        • Profile picture of the author ShayB
                          In addition to your Klingon Tweeter and his followers, I am also following Mr._Klingon and others. This is FUN!
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                          • Profile picture of the author Dan C. Rinnert
                            Originally Posted by ShayRockhold View Post

                            In addition to your Klingon Tweeter and his followers, I am also following Mr._Klingon and others. This is FUN!
                            Maybe Mr. Klingon will know someone that tweets in Klingon!

                            I can see the future WSO... "qaStaH nuq? or, How to Make $100 Daily Tweeting in Klingon"
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                              Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert View Post

                              Maybe Mr. Klingon will know someone that tweets in Klingon!

                              I can see the future WSO... "qaStaH nuq? or, How to Make $100 Daily Tweeting in Klingon"

                              Ha! The OTO is a Klingon dictionary. :rolleyes:
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  • Profile picture of the author Matt Bard
    IMChick think you're right about that.

    Shay, look for novelty companies or stores that already sell those items because they have the license to. Then see if those companies have affiliates. If they don't then write them a little email asking if they have sub-distributors and what it would take to be one.

    You never know. And wouldn't that be cool.

    Matt

    p.s. and if you get a deal then don't forget I get a discount on a Spock bobblehead.
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    • Profile picture of the author ShayB
      Originally Posted by Matthew Maiden View Post

      IMChick think you're right about that.

      Shay, look for novelty companies or stores that already sell those items because they have the license to. Then see if those companies have affiliates. If they don't then write them a little email asking if they have sub-distributors and what it would take to be one.

      You never know. And wouldn't that be cool.

      Matt

      p.s. and if you get a deal then don't forget I get a discount on a Spock bobblehead.
      Nooooo problem!

      I can see it now:

      "Dear Mr. Distributor,

      Can I PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE be a sub-contractor so I can sell your cool stuff to my friends? PLEEEEASE????"
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  • Profile picture of the author Matt Bard
    Ok, confession time...way back when I was 13 years old and collecting sports cards, my friend's uncle had a little corner grocery store and we took some stationary with his letterhead and a copy of his business license and sent it to the Topps Card Company so that they could send us unopened boxes of football and baseball cards at wholesale.

    We were the coolest kids in school.

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  • Profile picture of the author Dano77
    Tiffany,

    I've put together something for people hunting for niches. I'd be happy to PM with a link to the product so you can check it out, maybe even give a testimonial and tell me if it solves your problem.

    I think what would solve your problem would be the brainstorming guide with over 500 problem words. I'll send it free.

    Try other words besides "how do i" because those are obvious... also watch google insights for search if you haven't played with it yet and see what's trending... what's shooting up in search volume recently.

    Faith is going to be very handy in the next year as people loose their jobs, their businesses etc.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Rowe
    It looks like you two are trying to elevate your post counts by talking off topic stuff outside the off topic section. Tell me it ain't so.
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    • Profile picture of the author ShayB
      Originally Posted by John Rowe View Post

      It looks like you two are trying to elevate your post counts by talking off topic stuff outside the off topic section. Tell me it ain't so.
      LOL Sorry. This is part of doing niche research to monetize a site, right??? Right??? It's on topic! Honest!!!!
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    • Profile picture of the author Dan C. Rinnert
      Originally Posted by John Rowe View Post

      It looks like you two are trying to elevate your post counts by talking off topic stuff outside the off topic section. Tell me it ain't so.
      Oh no! We're just pre-selling our tlhIngan Hol WSOs. LOL!
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      • Profile picture of the author ShayB
        Okay, serious question:

        If I promote a really niche-y site via Twitter, could I risk losing more "mainstream" followers? Is it worth the risk? I dunno.
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        • Profile picture of the author Dan C. Rinnert
          Originally Posted by ShayRockhold View Post

          Okay, serious question:

          If I promote a really niche-y site via Twitter, could I risk losing more "mainstream" followers? Is it worth the risk? I dunno.
          I've lost one since tweeting about Klingons. But I gained one, so it was a wash.

          I think the answer is that it's okay to tweet about anything that you think is interesting, but just be careful not to overdo it.
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          • Profile picture of the author ShayB
            Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert View Post

            I've lost one since tweeting about Klingons. But I gained one, so it was a wash.

            I think the answer is that it's okay to tweet about anything that you think is interesting, but just be careful not to overdo it.
            Sorry about that Twerpson loss.
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      • Profile picture of the author Dan C. Rinnert
        Science fiction may be a big niche with little money, if it's not name-brand science fiction that you're dealing with.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Rowe
    Well, I was kind of being polite.

    In the back of your minds, let the little voice say...
    "If this thread gets deleted... I lose everything.)

    Why not take your conversation to Skype?
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    • Profile picture of the author ShayB
      Originally Posted by John Rowe View Post

      Well, I was kind of being polite.

      In the back of your minds, let the little voice say...
      "If this thread gets deleted... I lose everything.)

      Why not take your conversation to Skype?
      So threads with multiple pics of Kevin Riley in a mankini are okay, but this thread might be deleted?

      Good Lord....

      Fine, I will move to Skype and PMs. :rolleyes:
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      • Profile picture of the author John Rowe
        Originally Posted by ShayRockhold View Post

        So threads with multiple pics of Kevin Riley in a mankini are okay...
        No Shay, pictures of Kevin in his mankini are NEVER okay, and should always be deleted.
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          Originally Posted by John Rowe View Post

          No Shay, pictures of Kevin in his mankini are NEVER okay, and should always be deleted.

          Well, I can't argue with ya there, but....:rolleyes:
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  • Profile picture of the author ShayB
    Originally Posted by TiffanyDow View Post

    Hi Warriors!

    I'm trying to think of many freebie niches - niches where there's a ton of searches, but as for a paid info product - not so sure!

    One thing I was wondering about is religion. I see tons of searches for God, faith, religion, etc., but as for seeing any "pay-worthy" problem phrases in the list, I didn't see one. By that I mean stuff like, "how to____________" where you'd look at it and say, "Hey I can write an eBook about that."

    Even on Amazon, the only religion books I saw were not problem-solution but more philosophical in nature, which I'm not sure would work so well for an info product.

    Any insight into this niche or other niches you can think of that are big niches, little money?
    Tiff
    I could think of another: saving money, cutting back on your budget, etc.

    Some people might not want to spend a lot to learn how to save.

    However, some people have done quite well in this type of niche.

    I think it depends, also, on the person trying to market the product.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dan C. Rinnert
      Has anyone mentioned recipes? That's a pretty big niche, but with all the free recipes out there, who would want to spend a lot of money on it?
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      • Profile picture of the author ShayB
        Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert View Post

        Has anyone mentioned recipes? That's a pretty big niche, but with all the free recipes out there, who would want to spend a lot of money on it?
        I think you could do it if they were very specialized recipes. Not even just for diabetics (but that might work), but maybe a certain theme or something.
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      • Profile picture of the author ShayB
        Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert View Post

        Has anyone mentioned recipes? That's a pretty big niche, but with all the free recipes out there, who would want to spend a lot of money on it?
        Maybe the key is not spending a lot of money.

        Maybe a membership site (like what has been mentioned on the thread) or perhaps small collections of recipes that are either very creative or historic recipes that people would look for?

        People might pay a small fee (like less than $5 a month, perhaps) in order to have access to that kind of thing.

        And what about a meal-planning site? Moms these days are busy, KWIM? Maybe a small fee each month for a full month's worth of recipes, complete with a shopping list and ideas for leftovers?

        Might work.
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  • This one's for you, Shay...

    Google

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      Originally Posted by internetmarketer99 View Post

      This one's for you, Shay...

      Google

      Mark
      OMG. Thank you!!! If I wasn't married already......

      (Oh no! Wait! Gotta stay on-topic!)

      Um, yes! That is a wonderful use of a niche for marketing purposes! Thank you!
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      • Profile picture of the author Lance K
        Pastor Brian, you're good people. Thank you for your contributions to this thread.
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          Originally Posted by Lance K View Post

          Pastor Brian, you're good people. Thank you for your contributions to this thread.
          And to you as well, Lance. I enjoyed reading your brainstorming posts before the thread got muddled and you disappeared.

          I think that cooking and recipes certainly fits into the 'big niche, little money' area with a few notable exceptions.

          My take on a short case study of Cooks Magazine--you know the guy who doesn't take any advertising dollars in his publications. He has a $15/month membership site with a searchable recipe index and comment area for each topic.

          Not quite a full forum but it seems to organize the posts under the main categories. But again, the paid areas re-purpose the content already published by the magazines. And the re-purposed content is also available in hard copy recipe books on another continuity program. You know the model, 'buy this really expensive book and keep it on trial (risk nothing, guaranteed!) and we'll send you another one next ___' insert time period here.

          There's now a PBS show as well as it's growing membership subscriber base that continues to grow from repurposing their own content, without adsense or other sponsor dollars in support.

          I think that this is one of many good examples of how to do it, you know make something out of dusty old stuff in your attic. OR someone else's dusty old stuff. Or a boring or oversaturated topic. Crack this code and apply it to any niche you like.

          It's interesting to note a few things here as well; if it weren't for the internet and the superb marketing efforts behind the company, this guy's success would be a mere sliver of itself AND he started it all in a very small way. I can't remember the actual details, but it grew out of the shoe box being used for recipes in his house into a big commercial enterprise.

          Pretty sophisticated if you know that the #1 criterion for the customer's exposure to all of this, the 'opt-in' if you will, is that you must first be a subscriber to at least one of the magazines. So in a saturated market, he's figured out how to re-sell the same thing over and over to existing customers.
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          • Profile picture of the author Matt Bard
            Originally Posted by IMChick View Post

            It's interesting to note a few things here as well; if it weren't for the internet and the superb marketing efforts behind the company, this guy's success would be a mere sliver of itself
            I think the numbers behind The Purpose Driven Life are a little misleading as well because of media and marketing.

            While it is true that the book has been on the Best Seller's List for a while, you have to take into account that there are millions of Christians that have been buying this book since 2002.

            But, the big boost in popularity came when some guy flipped out and started shooting people then went on a wild police chase and ended up breaking into a young ladies home and holding her hostage. She had spent hours with this man and had finally talked him into turning himself in.

            When she was interviewed she told the media that she had been talking to him about the principles that she learned in the book The Purpose Driven Life. When Oprah heard this it made her show and I don't have to tell you what that can do for anyone's numbers.

            Once again, with the right timing and marketing just about anything can become extremely popular but that does not mean I'm going to go out and try to sell any more Pet Rocks.
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  • Profile picture of the author AyeSuccess
    Originally Posted by TiffanyDow View Post

    Hi Warriors!

    I'm trying to think of many freebie niches - niches where there's a ton of searches, but as for a paid info product - not so sure!

    One thing I was wondering about is religion. I see tons of searches for God, faith, religion, etc., but as for seeing any "pay-worthy" problem phrases in the list, I didn't see one. By that I mean stuff like, "how to____________" where you'd look at it and say, "Hey I can write an eBook about that."

    Even on Amazon, the only religion books I saw were not problem-solution but more philosophical in nature, which I'm not sure would work so well for an info product.

    Any insight into this niche or other niches you can think of that are big niches, little money?
    Tiff
    Hi Tiffany,

    The message is clear! With the rising and never-ending crises everywhere in the world, l mean the war, the economic dryness, the job-cut, violences in homes and on the streets, it's just plain truth that people are searching endlessly for inner peace. You can see why the popular online search is about religion, faith, God etc. This is no longer about how-to-be-rich or how-to- stuffs.

    That will come after there is inner peace.
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  • Profile picture of the author cashonly
    Remember, all those people in those big niches have other interests that once you get their attention, something related that does make you better money might be of interest to them
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