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PLEASE WF MEMBERS CAN ANY ONE HERE HLEP ME WITH NICHE SELECTION?

by goldenbbq
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Hi,
I am about to go totally crazy again. Can anyone here shed some light and give me guide please, here is some info to feed you with your replies given that my IM arena is amazon affiliate thr product reviews:-
-I am totally lost in my niche selection since I need to follow my fellow WF member's advice for me as newbie to try to tackle low competition niche

1-almost every niche I am interested in has google competition of at least 5M+ up except I found one with the following info in the personal health field:
even though it only has around 170,000 competing sites, when I run the competition anylyses(please excuse my english) I run the analysis according to how I was taught(by typing the URL of the competitor in both google backlink checker and page rank checker) so this was the result:- the site sitting in the number one first page has 138 backlinks(couldn't read the anchour text stuff) and page rank 3/10

-the no 2 in page one google competing site has 4/10 in page ranking and google says this one has no reported backlink, how many of them in the first page shall I look at on deciding my niche selection, AM I doing this correctly to start with?

Is this good enough for me to enter this niche(I am new at IM) I mean yes I kept reading stuff during last 3 months with no actions)
Can I enter this field(medical & health) and still compete with famous companies websites like Emron and others who are constantly sitting on page 1 google as an example(I quitted a number of niches for the same problem)

I find it so hard to find a niche with less than 30,000 competing sites as some recommended for newbies here.
Can any one here give me some brief guidance as how I can tackle this google competion anylysis problems?
Thank you forum members for your help.
#hlep #members #niche #selection
  • Profile picture of the author KimboJim
    A lot of people say the amount of competing sites matters, but in reality, I have found that it really doesn't matter. What you are really competing against is the first 10 sites. If you aren't on that first page, there is a very low chance that you will get hits. The number of total sites was an old philosophy, and really doesn't apply as much as you think.

    What you want to check is PR and backlinks. The rule-of-thumb I have gone by is if the first 10 pages have PR4 or less (if one PR5 is there I usually do it anyway), and if the pages have 300 or less backlinks, then I'll go for the niche.

    Now, can you compete with Emron, I have no idea because I don't know the niche/keyword. However, if you can get more backlinks then them, then of course you can. Not only that, but you may not be competing with them, or they may not be vying for the keyword(s) you are going after. For example, just because you write on office supplies, doesn't mean you have to compete with Staples, Office Max, etc.

    I hope this helped.
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    • Profile picture of the author goldenbbq
      Originally Posted by KimboJim View Post

      A lot of people say the amount of competing sites matters, but in reality, I have found that it really doesn't matter. What you are really competing against is the first 10 sites. If you aren't on that first page, there is a very low chance that you will get hits. The number of total sites was an old philosophy, and really doesn't apply as much as you think.

      What you want to check is PR and backlinks. The rule-of-thumb I have gone by is if the first 10 pages have PR4 or less (if one PR5 is there I usually do it anyway), and if the pages have 300 or less backlinks, then I'll go for the niche.

      Now, can you compete with Emron, I have no idea because I don't know the niche/keyword. However, if you can get more backlinks then them, then of course you can. Not only that, but you may not be competing with them, or they may not be vying for the keyword(s) you are going after. For example, just because you write on office supplies, doesn't mean you have to compete with Staples, Office Max, etc.

      I hope this helped.
      Kim thanks for your quick reply however, do you mean if all 10 sites on the first page total = 300 backlinks for the ten you go after that niche?
      thanks again.
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  • Profile picture of the author kevinhdavis
    My advise would be to forget all the BS, and actually focus on something you enjoy and have interest in.

    Choosing a niche based on all the technical analysis and competition is old school BS.

    SEO has completely changed.

    And SEO should never be your primary traffic strategy.

    Enough good content will dominate any niche, the problem is if you have no interest in the niche, you'll never produce enough good content.

    Now, some other Warrior will probably jump in and say buy PLR articles and spin then 40 times and your "golden". Hogwash...

    Look around the room, what have you spent your money on that you enjoy?

    That is your niche, now buy a video camera and start recording content and uploading to YouTube. Add the videos to a Wordpress blog.

    Anyone doing those three things will have more traffic by the end of a month than you will have all year if you finally find a niche that meets your criteria.

    Many times we make it harder than it really is.

    Best of luck,
    Kevin
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    • Profile picture of the author philm67
      It's not usually that your NICHE is too competitive, but the KEYWORDS you're trying to rank for might be.

      So, you might not need to give up on the niche you're really passionate about ... just look for the keywords (perhaps longtail keywords) that are a bit more under the radar and less competitive.

      You might not be able to rank page 1 for that main keyword that gets a million searches a month, but you could do very nicely if you can rank for a keyword that gets 5,000 per month. Maybe you can find 2 - 3 of those less competitive keywords, rank highly for them, and suddenly Google is sending you a nice stream of traffic.
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    • Profile picture of the author goldenbbq
      Originally Posted by kevinhdavis View Post

      My advise would be to forget all the BS, and actually focus on something you enjoy and have interest in.

      Choosing a niche based on all the technical analysis and competition is old school BS.

      SEO has completely changed.

      And SEO should never be your primary traffic strategy.

      Enough good content will dominate any niche, the problem is if you have no interest in the niche, you'll never produce enough good content.

      Now, some other Warrior will probably jump in and say buy PLR articles and spin then 40 times and your "golden". Hogwash...


      Ke

      Look around the room, what have you spent your money on that you enjoy?

      That is your niche, now buy a video camera and start recording content and uploading to YouTube. Add the videos to a Wordpress blog.

      Anyone doing those three things will have more traffic by the end of a month than you will have all year if you finally find a niche that meets your criteria.

      Many times we make it harder than it really is.

      Best of luck,
      Kevin
      Kevin,
      Thanks for your input, one last question to you though, how about finding all or lots of authority sites on google first page for your niche when doing your niche search? I mean like overtock.com, wall-mart, ..etc so I just ignore and go and do my important article contents?

      I have my daughter who is native English and is a good writer than me. also want to know your valued opinion on amazon customer's reviews is adding them to my site important for my amazon affilaite success? one niche I researched has only 2 reviews/each has only one reviewer?
      Thanks for your time.
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      • Profile picture of the author joeshmo1946
        I don't worry too much about places like Amazon, walmart, overstock on the front page. Sometimes that's a good sign that you have a great shot at that keyword. We have plenty of sites that outrank Amazon etc. If you have the targeted keyword in your domain name and have a nice mixture of great links you can easily outrank those guys over time.
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  • Profile picture of the author KimboJim
    Like Philm67 said, you really wanna look for keywords in the niche, but I meant each page separately, not all 10. If you find a keyword with a combined top 10 of only 300 backlinks, then you are either looking at an extremely long-tail keyword (like 20 words long), a useless keyword, or an untapped gold mine that no one has capitalized on yet.
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  • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
    Listen to what Kevin said.

    You've been given bad advice and you're going to struggle to build success based on it.

    The way you're checking competition is flawed and will drive you nuts.

    It's impossible that a site with a PR of 4 has no backlinks. Therefore the way you're checking links is wrong.

    Don't take this the wrong way but it sounds like you don't know what you're doing and you've started out but missed learning some basic things.

    If the information you've shared in your OP does not tell you that something is not right then I think you need to do some more learning before you get set on a path that is not going to work for you.

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  • Profile picture of the author KimboJim
    I remember all the bad advice I saw when I started out. It was when link clouds were the "in thing" and everyone was saying to write with 10% keyword density. Can you imagine reading a page with a 10% keyword density? A keyword every 10 words, just makes me sick. They were terrible, and I'm surprised Google didn't make Panda earlier because of all those sites.

    Of course, there was also the number of competing pages, and everyone was saying that you should never make your own website because it's too hard.

    Instead, everyone I talked to was saying write on eHow and AssociatedContent, and other article directories for pay. Link exchanging was also rampant (maybe it still is, I don't pay attention to that anymore). I'm glad I got out of all those phases.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mizzy Princess
    Personally, i go for a niche that is so close to my heart, my interest and the thing that i think is fit for my personality.
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  • Profile picture of the author CapitalB
    I agree with Kevin.

    Don't get side tracked or caught up in "the right niche" or how many backlinks someone has. It's easier than you may think to get to the first page. But first, you have to have some content to promote.

    Think about things that you like and that you can market and speak about with some authority. Then just write a few articles on it or make some videos about it and start posting.

    What's your favorite piece of software? What's your favorite piece of electronic equipment? What's your favorite sport? What's your favorite music? There's affiliate opportunities all around.

    As far as backlinks, after you write your several articles head over to bulkping.org and submit your domain, URLs, and rss feeds for lotsa backlinks.

    You can also make quality comments on a few high trafficked blogs, put it in your forum signature and start making more comments. And/or go over to Synnd, SocialAdr, and ImAutomator and sign up for their free subscriptions and start getting bookmark backlinks.

    There are really a lot of options once you decide to do it...
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