Newbie? You're not making any money? Here's the world's simpliest blueprint...

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Here you:

Step 1. Pick a niche (5 minutes)

Step 2. Set up a squeeze page and offer
a free PLR report (30-45 minutes)

Step 3. Drive traffic by all means on a daily basis
(2-3 hours per day x 5 days per week. That's at least
10 hours in traffic generation effort, well done you're in the
top 1% of IMers...)

Step 4. Send an email per day Monday to Friday to your list
with a daily tip (a video, a report, an article or an mp3)
[30 minutes per day and doesn't have to be your content]

Step 5. Include in your email a 2 lines ad for an affiliate product
as a PS.

BONUS Step 6: Spend 1-2 hours to educate yourself on IM
on Saturday

Repeat...

Can't make it easier than that.

You won't be rich overnight but stick to it for
6 to 12 months and you may be able to quit your job.

That's it, the only reason you keep buying products
and don't make any money is because you're not
doing those 5 steps...

No excuses now...

All the best

Ryan
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  • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
    The devil is in the details.

    You might aswell say - "sell lots of stuff - and you will make lots of money".

    Step 1 - you can choose the wrong niche and completely waste your time.

    Step 2 - if you're clueless about copy writing - your squeeze page will be a waste of time.

    Step 3 - most people can't do this step, even after years of doing IM.

    Step 4 - most people do not take daily action, and again if you don't understand copy you're wasting your time.

    Step 5 - again with the need for copy writing - yes even on 1 line ads.

    Step 6 - Most people won't spend an extra 2 hours a day on top of what they're doing, and with so many things to learn - you could spend 2 hours a day for 10 years and still not be able to make money. You could read about heart surgery for 10 years and still not be able to use a scalpal.

    So - it's nice in theory but even if you did those steps it's easier to fail than to succeed.

    Just taking action does not guarantee success.

    (but it does help).
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    • Profile picture of the author Mark Andrews
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      Originally Posted by Andyhenry View Post

      The devil is in the details.

      You might aswell say - "sell lots of stuff - and you will make lots of money".

      Step 1 - you can choose the wrong niche and completely waste your time.

      Step 2 - if you're clueless about copy writing - your squeeze page will be a waste of time.

      Step 3 - most people can't do this step, even after years of doing IM.

      Step 4 - most people do not take daily action, and again if you don't understand copy you're wasting your time.

      Step 5 - again with the need for copy writing - yes even on 1 line ads.

      Step 6 - Most people won't spend an extra 2 hours a day on top of what they're doing, and with so many things to learn - you could spend 2 hours a day for 10 years and still not be able to make money. You could read about heart surgery for 10 years and still not be able to use a scalpal.

      So - it's nice in theory but even if you did those steps it's easier to fail than to succeed.

      Just taking action does not guarantee success.

      (but it does help).
      Respectfully, I disagree with you Andy.

      Ryan is right. Yes it's simplified but this is precisely what this forum is for.

      Step 1. If in doubt, ask others on the forum for their opinion and take advice from more experienced Warriors. Time to create the new thread - 5 minutes give or take. Time to read the replies which matter - depends how long the thread becomes but mere minutes comparatively speaking.

      Step 2.
      If they're clueless about copywriting, pop into the Copywriting Forum and ask a question. Or, if they cobble together some sales copy for their squeezepage, ask for a free critique in the same forum. They'll get answers before lunchtime which they can implement instantly. They don't need to get it perfect straight off the bat - practice makes perfect given time.

      Step 3. Driving traffic? Similarly. Ask a question on the forum. I mean seriously, if they can't start with Twitter, which any simpleton should be able to get their head around in 2 minutes, they need to get out of the game full stop. Just start with the most simple steps and start building your targeted traffic strategy very simply one step a time.

      Again, if in doubt about any of these steps, just ask questions. No question is too dumb - we were all there once.

      Step 4. If they don't take daily action they shouldn't be in the game. Go and get a job. And if you can't get a job, take daily action. Simple choice really.

      About learning the fundamentals of copywriting again, just ask any copywriter what the absolute basic advice is and most will be willing to help out, to set the newbie on the right track.

      Step 5. Ditto.

      Step 6. I don't think you can really compare setting up an effective squeezepage list building campaign with understanding or carrying out heart surgery. This would be like comparing how to ride a bicycle to taking a rocket built by Nasa to the moon.


      Ryan was simply making the point in very basic terms that there are no problems only solutions and all it takes is a willingness to learn and to at least make a start implementing a few basic steps.

      In other words... start taking simple action now.

      They're not going to get everything right instantly, they're going to make mistakes but if anyone takes just a bit of action one step at a time, day by day, in 365 days time they should be making some reasonable money month on month. Enough to consider taking the next logical step.

      I saw his thread in an entirely positive light. I guess where some see problems, others see solutions and opportunity.

      Best,


      Mark Andrews
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      • Profile picture of the author SuperRyan
        Originally Posted by Mark Andrews View Post

        Respectfully, I disagree with you Andy.

        Ryan is right. Yes it's simplified but this is precisely what this forum is for.

        Step 1. If in doubt, ask others on the forum for their opinion and take advice from more experienced Warriors. Time to create the new thread - 5 minutes give or take. Time to read the replies which matter - depends how long the thread becomes but mere minutes comparatively speaking.

        Step 2.
        If they're clueless about copywriting, pop into the Copywriting Forum and ask a question. Or, if they cobble together some sales copy for their squeezepage, ask for a free critique in the same forum. They'll get answers before lunchtime which they can implement instantly. They don't need to get it perfect straight off the bat - practice makes perfect given time.

        Step 3. Driving traffic? Similarly. Ask a question on the forum. I mean seriously, if they can't start with Twitter, which any simpleton should be able to get their head around in 2 minutes, they need to get out of the game full stop. Just start with the most simple steps and start building your targeted traffic strategy very simply one step a time.

        Again, if in doubt about any of these steps, just ask questions. No question is too dumb - we were all there once.

        Step 4. If they don't take daily action they shouldn't be in the game. Go and get a job. And if you can't get a job, take daily action. Simple choice really.

        About learning the fundamentals of copywriting again, just ask any copywriter what the absolute basic advice is and most will be willing to help out, to set the newbie on the right track.

        Step 5. Ditto.

        Step 6. I don't think you can really compare setting up an effective squeezepage list building campaign with understanding or carrying out heart surgery. This would be like comparing how to ride a bicycle to taking a rocket built by Nasa to the moon.


        Ryan was simply making the point in very basic terms that there are no problems only solutions and all it takes is a willingness to learn and to at least make a start implementing a few basic steps.

        In other words... start taking simple action now.

        They're not going to get everything right instantly, they're going to make mistakes but if anyone takes just a bit of action one step at a time, day by day, in 365 days time they should be making some reasonable money month on month. Enough to consider taking the next logical step.

        I saw his thread in an entirely positive light. I guess where some see problems, others see solutions and opportunity.

        Best,


        Mark Andrews
        Glad to see that someone got it. It's a proven blueprint. Doesn't
        mean that effort won't be involved. But I didn't want to insult
        anyone intelligence by telling that, well... They'll have to work.

        Ryan
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        • Profile picture of the author Don Luis
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          That's an excellent blueprint. Newbies don't expect to be spoon fed; there's a lot of free information available on how to perform each step.
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          • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
            Originally Posted by Don Luis View Post

            That's an excellent blueprint. Newbies don't expect to be spoon fed; there's a lot of free information available on how to perform each step.
            If only that were true.

            Unfortunately my experience is that 'most' (definitely not all) newbies DO expect to be spoon fed.

            That's the main reason so many people struggle after a long time of learning about IM. They're buying lots of 'blueprints' but don't have the understand of how to work a constant and focused plan - whatever that plan actually says.

            Rose is right - the devil is in the definitions really.

            What you might think is quick and easy (set up a squeeze page) is not quick or easy for someone else.
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            • Profile picture of the author ShaneGorry
              Originally Posted by Andyhenry View Post

              Unfortunately my experience is that 'most' (definitely not all) newbies DO expect to be spoon fed.
              Thus the number of marketers willing to sell them each and every spoonful.

              The minority should have already Googled any terms they don't yet understand.
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        • Profile picture of the author RhondaG
          Thanks for being someone who cares about those trying to make their mark in this industry. Everyone is there at one point of time and it is important to remember how desolate it can feel. Thanks for offering your list and your encouragement.
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          • Profile picture of the author SuperRyan
            Originally Posted by RhondaG View Post

            Thanks for being someone who cares about those trying to make their mark in this industry. Everyone is there at one point of time and it is important to remember how desolate it can feel. Thanks for offering your list and your encouragement.
            You're welcome!
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    • Profile picture of the author Chris-
      Originally Posted by Andyhenry View Post

      The devil is in the details.

      You might aswell say - "sell lots of stuff - and you will make lots of money".

      Step 1 - you can choose the wrong niche and completely waste your time.

      Step 2 - if you're clueless about copy writing - your squeeze page will be a waste of time.

      Step 3 - most people can't do this step, even after years of doing IM.

      Step 4 - most people do not take daily action, and again if you don't understand copy you're wasting your time.

      Step 5 - again with the need for copy writing - yes even on 1 line ads.

      Step 6 - Most people won't spend an extra 2 hours a day on top of what they're doing, and with so many things to learn - you could spend 2 hours a day for 10 years and still not be able to make money. You could read about heart surgery for 10 years and still not be able to use a scalpal.

      So - it's nice in theory but even if you did those steps it's easier to fail than to succeed.

      Just taking action does not guarantee success.

      (but it does help).
      Well said!

      I'd add that the "just give value and you'll make money" concept (which so many people like to agree with on this forum) is also utter nonsense. You can give the best value in the world, but if you don't have really strong sales copy to persuade people to buy stuff, you will still get zero sales.

      Chris
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  • Profile picture of the author xxxJamesxxx
    No offence... But that's completely useless to a newbie.

    Like Andy said above - the devil is in the detail.

    James Scholes
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  • Profile picture of the author Ajay Tiwari
    Hey! Hey! I agree with all above points mentioned by Ryan, Andy and Mark..
    Strategy, knowledge, action & focus, if you miss any of these four things failure is fixed.. But man that failure teaches you many new things and move you towards success so sometimes failure is also needed in a good way..
    Ryan told strategy, Andy told about knowledge and Mark told about taking action, man all of this things are necessary with focus.

    Thanks guys for explaining and telling your thoughts...
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  • Profile picture of the author jameskahon
    Originally Posted by SuperRyan View Post

    Here you:

    Step 1. Pick a niche (5 minutes)

    Step 2. Set up a squeeze page and offer
    a free PLR report (30-45 minutes)

    Step 3. Drive traffic by all means on a daily basis
    (2-3 hours per day x 5 days per week. That's at least
    10 hours in traffic generation effort, well done you're in the
    top 1% of IMers...)

    Step 4. Send an email per day Monday to Friday to your list
    with a daily tip (a video, a report, an article or an mp3)
    [30 minutes per day and doesn't have to be your content]

    Step 5. Include in your email a 2 lines ad for an affiliate product
    as a PS.

    BONUS Step 6: Spend 1-2 hours to educate yourself on IM
    on Saturday

    Repeat...

    Can't make it easier than that.

    You won't be rich overnight but stick to it for
    6 to 12 months and you may be able to quit your job.

    That's it, the only reason you keep buying products
    and don't make any money is because you're not
    doing those 5 steps...

    No excuses now...

    All the best

    Ryan
    Will this generally apply to all money making online? Or for affiliates only?

    I'm a newbie and hardly earning money through adsense.
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  • Profile picture of the author BloggingPro
    Here's one for you. Marketing 101 really.

    1. Find niche full of hungry buyers desperately looking to solve a problem.
    2. Find/Create a product/service that meets this audience's needs.
    3. Put said product/service right in front of them.
    = Sales.

    Who'da thunk making money was that easy?
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    • Profile picture of the author SP Media
      Originally Posted by BloggingPro View Post

      Here's one for you. Marketing 101 really.

      1. Find niche full of hungry buyers desperately looking to solve a problem.
      2. Find/Create a product/service that meets this audience's needs.
      3. Put said product/service right in front of them.
      = Sales.

      Who'da thunk making money was that easy?
      LOVE it!! Doesn't get more simple or more true than that...
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  • Profile picture of the author Riggs
    Another thread intended to help "newbies" containing a significant amount of IM terminology they wont understand.

    Everything else - 10/10.
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  • Profile picture of the author rosetrees
    Putting my teacher's hat on - Andy is right.

    This formula is spot on - for improvers or experienced marketers. To the "newbie" stated in the thread title it is meaningless.

    The mistake is in not defining the level of prior experience needed in order to take advantage of this method.

    Just as an example - look at Step 2 from the point of view of a newbie.
    Step 2. Set up a squeeze page and offer
    a free PLR report (30-45 minutes)
    Does your newbie know what a squeeze page is?
    Does your newbie know how to register a domain and get hosting?
    Does your newbie know what PLR means?
    Does your newbie know where to find a PLR report?

    My guess is that a real newbie would probably take at least a week to do that "30 - 45" minute step - and that's assuming they don't get lead down any blind alleys.

    As for step one - the simplest sounding - "find a niche" - I'm impressed if even an experienced marketer can do the keyword research and other background research needed in "5 mins". And step 4. What list - I'm a newbie.

    This is thread is a good lesson for all newbies. Put your critical thinking cap on and ask yourself if the person who is telling you what to do is really aiming their product at someone with your level of experience.
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    • Profile picture of the author Don Luis
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      Maybe a "newbie" is someone who already knew what the IM terminologies are all about, how they work, etc.

      I know a lot of stuff about listbuilding, SEO, salespages, blogging, etc., but I still consider myself a "newbie" because I still haven't found success online.

      A newbie doesn't necessarily mean someone who is a complete moron about IM. He/she may have inadequate knowledge or experience.

      But I agree with rosetrees. The steps are viable, but they take a very long time for a newbie to accomplish.
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      • Profile picture of the author rosetrees
        Originally Posted by Don Luis View Post

        .....
        I know a lot of stuff about listbuilding, SEO, salespages, blogging, etc., but I still consider myself a "newbie" because I still haven't found success online.

        A newbie doesn't necessarily mean someone who is a complete moron about IM. He/she may have inadequate knowledge or experience.
        Thanks Don - that's exactly my point about defining the prior level of knowledge needed by your "newbie" (or any other level).


        Aside: - try teaching a "beginner's" computer course. The first half of the first lesson is always spent on finding out what the students really know. All will define themselves as "beginner's" (often adding that they are stupid, for good measure). Some would literally never have used a mouse before. Some were touch typists. Some had done some basic wordprocessing.
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    • Profile picture of the author Looking4Mentor
      Originally Posted by rosetrees View Post

      Putting my teacher's hat on - Andy is right.

      This formula is spot on - for improvers or experienced marketers. To the "newbie" stated in the thread title it is meaningless.

      The mistake is in not defining the level of prior experience needed in order to take advantage of this method.

      Just as an example - look at Step 2 from the point of view of a newbie.
      Does your newbie know what a squeeze page is?
      Does your newbie know how to register a domain and get hosting?
      Does your newbie know what PLR means?
      Does your newbie know where to find a PLR report?

      My guess is that a real newbie would probably take at least a week to do that "30 - 45" minute step - and that's assuming they don't get lead down any blind alleys.

      As for step one - the simplest sounding - "find a niche" - I'm impressed if even an experienced marketer can do the keyword research and other background research needed in "5 mins". And step 4. What list - I'm a newbie.

      This is thread is a good lesson for all newbies. Put your critical thinking cap on and ask yourself if the person who is telling you what to do is really aiming their product at someone with your level of experience.

      Spot on, rosetrees!

      There are two types of teachers:
      One teacher has struggled through it and believes others need to as well. Somehow they believe the struggling is a higher value of wisdom, than being a valued mentor in showing them how to steer clear of major mistakes. They will hoard their knowledge until the student exhausts every avenue... then they will trickle in some more information- just enough for the student to struggle on to the next step. Sounds egotistical doesn't it?

      The other teacher who has struggled through it as well has compassion. This teacher wants to share their knowledge and experiences freely with their student so they can avoid the same mistakes and agony. This teacher has a sense of goodwill to bringing up a student; honing them into greatness. One possesses empathy and generosity - one does not.

      Peace.
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    • Profile picture of the author magiclouie
      Originally Posted by rosetrees View Post

      Putting my teacher's hat on - Andy is right.

      This formula is spot on - for improvers or experienced marketers. To the "newbie" stated in the thread title it is meaningless.

      The mistake is in not defining the level of prior experience needed in order to take advantage of this method.

      Just as an example - look at Step 2 from the point of view of a newbie.
      Does your newbie know what a squeeze page is?
      Does your newbie know how to register a domain and get hosting?
      Does your newbie know what PLR means?
      Does your newbie know where to find a PLR report?

      My guess is that a real newbie would probably take at least a week to do that "30 - 45" minute step - and that's assuming they don't get lead down any blind alleys.

      As for step one - the simplest sounding - "find a niche" - I'm impressed if even an experienced marketer can do the keyword research and other background research needed in "5 mins". And step 4. What list - I'm a newbie.

      This is thread is a good lesson for all newbies. Put your critical thinking cap on and ask yourself if the person who is telling you what to do is really aiming their product at someone with your level of experience.
      I think the Blueprint is just showing us the steps on how to make money online using that strategy. If a newbie doesn't know about some of the terminologies, then I guess it's already his/her part to learn about those things.

      At least, when they start studying and researching, they have something like a direction. I am a newbie myself, hence I have come up with this reply post.

      Just my 2 cents for whatever they worth on the subject matter.

      Cheers,
      Louie Tugas
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  • Profile picture of the author Chri5123
    I personally think the OP is spot on!

    When I started out I knew nothing about copywriting, squeeze pages etc...

    I think the MAIN thing is ACTION!

    Let us look at the steps:

    Step 1. Pick a niche (5 minutes)

    Step 2. Set up a squeeze page and offer
    a free PLR report (30-45 minutes)

    Step 3. Drive traffic by all means on a daily basis
    (2-3 hours per day x 5 days per week. That's at least
    10 hours in traffic generation effort, well done you're in the
    top 1% of IMers...)

    Step 4. Send an email per day Monday to Friday to your list
    with a daily tip (a video, a report, an article or an mp3)
    [30 minutes per day and doesn't have to be your content]

    Step 5. Include in your email a 2 lines ad for an affiliate product
    as a PS.

    BONUS Step 6: Spend 1-2 hours to educate yourself on IM
    on Saturday

    Step 1. Pick a niche (5 minutes)

    If you are unsure about this step a search in this very forum will bring up tons of advice on this step.

    However NO-ONE will help you pick a profitable niche - some of the niches that I have spent days researching have flopped others I have spotted in 5 minutes have been winners and vice versa.

    Step 2. Set up a squeeze page and offer
    a free PLR report (30-45 minutes)

    Not sure how to set up a squeeze page or what one is?

    Do a search and read then TAKE ACTION.

    Step 3: Drive Traffic

    Again there are thousands of threads on this...

    There is no STEP BY STEP path at least not in my experience.

    However the OP has provided some sound advice for those savvy enough to research the info and take action...

    Most of all remember - it does NOT have to be perfect!

    Just my 2 pence...

    Chris Jones
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  • Profile picture of the author Paperchasing
    I like how step three is almost literally nothing. "drive traffic using all means?" You're telling somebody who hasn't made a dime in IM to just "drive traffic" and professing it as a blueprint for newbies? In what world is driving traffic such an elementary process that it doesn't need any elaboration when presented as a blueprint for newbies? It's like saying:

    HOW TO START A SUCCESSFUL STORE

    1. Open Store
    2. Make Sales
    3. Repeat
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  • Profile picture of the author missmystery
    Really the step by step I guess is putting the effort in every day and doing something as opposed to giving up.
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  • Profile picture of the author StephanAdams
    here it is. the only blueprint any noob will ever need !

    The Noob Guide to Online Marketing (With Giant INFOGRAPHIC) | SEOmoz

    print that and tape it on your walls.
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  • Profile picture of the author go4wealth
    In my main profession I have to deal with many people who come with different levels of understanding. People who have been around for sometime use terminology they take for granted but new folks, especially younger folks, have no idea of what those words mean.

    Also I have owned many businesses - finding people who are self starters, who are motivated internally rather than externally is rare. Most folks want to be told when to get up, what to do and when to do it. I call them 9-5'ers.

    So just what is a "newbie" is he someone who expects to be "spoon fed" or is he someone self motivated and willing to take the steps necessary to learn. I like Ryans blueprint and - like has been pointed out - it is flawed.

    But it is an action based plan. Depending just how new the newbie is he has to learn the terminology, he has to learn what niche marketing is and how to do keyword research, copy writing basics, some html and a lot more.

    Hopefully he will find a place like the warrior forum where he can learn from some of the best. Frankly if a newbie is reading posts like this that is a sign that he is not just a 9-5'er or someone who just wants to be "spoon fed"

    And if he reads Ryans post and all of the responses to it he will have a much clearer idea of what he must learn and do. I like Ryans post but what I like more are the responses. In them knowledge is being shared that when applied puts more than dollars in our pockets.

    Love this forum
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    • Profile picture of the author ExRat
      Hi SuperRyan,

      I think you should focus on your core skill and make a WSO out of what you have achieved here - entitled -

      How To Start A Fight In An Empty Room

      :rolleyes:
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      • Profile picture of the author Steve B
        SuperRyan:

        Six simple steps ... "Can't make it any easier than that" ... "No excuses now"

        Ryan, your view is from 40,000 feet. You see the big picture and you know from first hand experience what it takes to succeed online.

        You have condensed Webster's Dictionary into a couple of paragraphs. You've taken a complicated process and distilled it to the core. Most won't argue that these truly are the right steps for most IMers.

        The question is: How do "newbies" implement what you've given them?

        They don't have have your view or perspective. They see things that they've never experienced before from an eye level perspective. They are in the middle of a dense forest trying to figure out which way to proceed.

        The mere fact that experienced marketers can't agree in this thread tells me that successful Internet Marketing is NOT simple, easy, or conducive to universal understanding.

        It is my experience that the vast majority of newbies don't learn how to make money online from "one size fits all" simple, distilled blueprints as we have been given here. The steps are accurate but their implementation for newbies is near impossible without more detailed baby steps.

        Yes, this forum does contain clues about most every step of the process. But is it fair to assume that a newbie can easily find these helpful gems, in the right order, from the mountains of information and misinformation that is the Warrior's playground?

        And we haven't even addressed the fact that every newbie's personal skill, aptitude, ambition, persistence, motivation, and temperment are totally unique and one of a kind.

        I have come to the conclusion that newbies have the best chance of successfully breaking into this game if they:

        1- Put on blinders and focus all their effort on one single money making strategy (at a time)
        2- Get help with implementing small details from a mentor or guide with positive experience in that strategy (usually a person, but more rarely, could be a book or course)
        3- Have an above average personal ability to persist, learn new skills, motivate themselves, learn from their own mistakes
        4- Develop the ability to sift IM wheat from the chaff; in other words, find the truths about what really works and pull them from all the mountains of misinformation spewed by IMers

        Now, just when we think we've conquered what works, add this giant asterisk to the recipe:

        Internet marketing evolves, changes, and turns on a dime!

        It's obvious that I'm no online guru ... but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

        Steve
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  • Profile picture of the author Brandon Tanner
    Originally Posted by SuperRyan View Post

    10 hours in traffic generation effort, well done you're in the top 1% of IMers...)
    lol. I think your math is off by more than a little bit here. If you include all of the freelancers I've hired in the past 5 years, that would easily add up to thousands of hours of traffic generation effort for my sites. And I've made a decent chunk of change from that traffic. But I wouldn't consider myself anywhere near the top 1%.

    Just sayin'.
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  • Profile picture of the author suxes2005
    Nice list but for someone that has good information
    about IM. It could work and it might not work depends
    on the niche.

    I guess you have to include some spendings as well

    SHALOM
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  • Profile picture of the author SEOExpert999
    I personally think your model is over-simplified but accurate. Because if your market research or step 1 "pick a niche" is not done correctly you will never succeed. If you get this 1 step right and have a blueprint to do it again and again you will have success most of the time and it is one of the most important factors. Because if you know your market you know where the traffic is and you know your customers Wants in your market.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mark Andrews
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      Originally Posted by StephanAdams View Post

      here it is. the only blueprint any noob will ever need !

      The Noob Guide to Online Marketing (With Giant INFOGRAPHIC) | SEOmoz

      print that and tape it on your walls.
      Bloomin' hec some of you are being a little harsh on Ryan, no?

      Not you Stephan. I thought that was an excellent find. Here is the giant blown up version of that wall plan...

      http://assets.unbounce.com/s/images/...aphic-1800.png

      Come on folks, Ryan wasn't intending this thread to stir up such controversy, far from it. He was actually just trying to be helpful, that's all. Nothing more and nothing less.

      Back in the day when I was a newbie in all of this several years ago, if I didn't understand something, I looked it up.

      "Oh look an odd expression, what the blazing dickens is that?"

      Go to my 2nd tab which just so happens to be on Google. Surprise surprise. Type in the word or expression and see what pops up.

      If a web search didn't bring anything useful up, switch out to Google Images. No luck there still, I would type in to Google Web Search again: Internet marketing dictionary.

      And so get all of the information I needed to compile a clearer better picture in my mind, what I was trying to accomplish or find out about.

      Incidentally, here is an Internet marketing dictionary...

      http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post4785539

      As they say, you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink it.

      Now some of you are saying you have to spoon feed these newbies and to an extent I agree with you. But at the same time you can make everything so easy, so extraordinarily easy that you've just failed completely to hit your target market.

      For if someone needs to be spoon fed, like a baby, the most exceedingly basic information constantly - just perhaps they shouldn't be in this business or any business period. That's what jobs are for (for these folks) somewhere where all the prior thinking has already been done for them.
      They just turn up at work at 8am, do the repeat task as instructed, stop at 5pm and go home, rinse and repeat 5 days a week.

      No disrespect to them at all, not in the slightest but some people, a lot of people in fact... are just never cut out for any form of self employment. Period.

      You could put every step to them in the most easy to understand language possible and they still wouldn't do anything with it. They just have very little desire to put the work in. They lack the self discipline.

      I've a couple of friends who have never worked in their entire lives. One guy I know, I mean he's reasonably intelligent, reckons he suffers from depression. Never had a job or done anything since leaving school over 30 years ago. Claimed benefits the entire time. His home rent paid for him. Free medical care. Free dentist care. Free council tax. And on top of all of that receives $115 a week to spend on food, cigarettes or whatever else he chooses to spend his allowance on.

      You could put everything in the most simple language possible for him but he still wouldn't do anything with it. He's just bone lazy in his mind (nice guy but he drives me personally up the wall.) Believes after all of this time that he's not capable of doing anything for himself, but there you go.

      On the other hand, if a person has a genuine desire to bring in some extra money or to create a full time self employed income, they don't mind getting off their backsides and putting some effort in of their own accord. They know everything can't be done for them and in fact, if you do this you're helping no one.

      In school you were given at first very simple knowledge. But you had to put some effort in yourself to move you onwards to a higher level of understanding. Often this would require homework, further research. You knew it was worth it because by putting in the extra work, delving a little deeper into the subject, eventually the extra effort would pay off. You knew there was a reward for you at the end of the day.

      The teacher didn't say, here you go Tommy, let me do it all for you. No, the teacher gave Tommy the simple tools and then gently nudged and encouraged little Tommy on his way. The rest was up to him.

      And so it is with Internet marketing or setting up any kind of business. More experienced folks can only go so far teaching the subject. 'Newbies' have either got it in them to move on under their own propulsion or they haven't. You can spoon feed the 'have nots' all day long but if they're not prepared to do any of the little bits of research themselves, they're going to be a waste of time.

      If they are your target market, sure keep it simple, but don't make the mistake thinking you have to provide absolutely everything for them. You're not trying to capture them, you are in fact trying to release them to go out there and do this on their own.

      I think I'll leave it there for now, at this rate you guys will have me writing all night on the subject.

      Best regards,


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  • Profile picture of the author Teravel
    For all you "The Devil is in the Details" people...

    Step 1. Pick a niche (5 minutes)
    Go to Amazon, Clickbank, Ebay, and choose a Group of Products that are popular, and solve a problem.

    Step 2. Set up a squeeze page and offer a free PLR report (30-45 minutes)
    This step is a little harder...
    Set up a Hostgator Hatchling plan ($10/mo)
    Get a Domain from NameCheap ($10/yr)
    Connect the two. If you don't know how, go to Youtube or get on Hostgator Live Chat.
    Log into your cPanel and click on Fantastico. Install WordPress to your Domain. (Again, youtube if you don't know how)
    Log into your WP-Admin panel and click Appearance. Install a very simple (Google wp simplistic theme) theme. (Going over the top is a waste of time)
    Set up a Static Homepage (Again, youtube makes this simple)
    Put your Review or Sales copy onto the Homepage. Include your Affiliate Links.

    *Special Note*
    Sign up for GetResponse as your AutoResponder service. You can sign up for a Free account that can aquire 10 emails. This may seem useless, but upgrading is extremely simple, and having the free account lets you set up your messages and webpages quickly before you go live. Once your site goes live and you get any sign-ups, you should get a paid account so you can grow your list.

    Step 3. Drive traffic by all means on a daily basis
    (2-3 hours per day x 5 days per week. That's at least
    10 hours in traffic generation effort, well done you're in the
    top 1% of IMers...)
    This one is up to you. There are countless ways to drive traffic to your website, and the more creative you get, the more money you can possibly make. A few ideas...

    Informational Articles (Skip the keyword garbage and aim to inform your readers)
    Share with Friends and Family on Social sites, and ask them to spread the word.
    Create a Flyer to hang around your local area.
    Create Micro-Blogs (Squidoo, Lenses, Blogger, Wordpress.org,etc) and direct links to your sales page or content pages on your website.

    Step 4. Send an email per day Monday to Friday to your list
    with a daily tip (a video, a report, an article or an mp3)
    [30 minutes per day and doesn't have to be your content]
    This is where I disagree. Don't harrass your list by sending messages every day. Every 3-5 days is a better option. It will make sure your list doesn't get sick of seeing your emails loading up their inbox, and it gives them time to decide on your previous emails sent to them.

    Step 5. Include in your email a 2 lines ad for an affiliate product
    as a PS.
    You should have a constant footer in all your emails that gives your business information, contact information, and a link to your website (Which should lead to a sales page or informational page).

    Abuse the power of the P.S. as it is difficult for someone to ignore one at the end of a message (Unless they don't get that far into your message to begin with).

    BONUS Step 6: Spend 1-2 hours to educate yourself on IM
    on Saturday
    Change Saturday to "Your Slow Day" (Some people spend time with friends and family on the weekend. You shouldn't spend any money on your marketing research. Any information you can find in the latest $17 WSO can usually be found in the forum with a little digging. Use the search feature included on the WarriorForum to find what you are looking for.


    ** Special Note **

    Always use the KISS method (Keep It Simple, Stupid). If you over-think or over-analyze things, you are going to get stagnant. People that don't take action won't get anywhere.

    If you ever find yourself stuck at a specific spot in your business model, look for a way to inexpensively outsource the work so you can continue moving forward. Or, ask questions on the WarriorForum to find the solution.

    Internet Marketing isn't HARD. It's just time consuming and tedious. Think about previous jobs you have had. Did you find parts boring because you did the same thing over and over? You can't escape bordom. Embrace it! It's the boring things that lead to success.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      Originally Posted by Teravel View Post


      This one is up to you. There are countless ways to drive traffic to your website, and the more creative you get, the more money you can possibly make. A few ideas...

      Informational Articles (Skip the keyword garbage and aim to inform your readers)
      Share with Friends and Family on Social sites, and ask them to spread the word.
      Create a Flyer to hang around your local area.
      Create Micro-Blogs (Squidoo, Lenses, Blogger, Wordpress.org,etc) and direct links to your sales page or content pages on your website.
      Really? Seriously? Flyers? Share with friends? You had "countless ways to drive traffic" to choose from and you chose those?

      I think you just made Andy's and the Devil is in the details people's points.

      I pretty much stopped reading after three. Personally I think such simplistic approaches give newbs an entirely false impression and precisely the kind of impression that leads them to buy a number of those easy money make it end 30 days eating popcorn on your couch "products".

      No offense to the Op. I don't think he meant any harm. Just my feedback on the whole simple quick ten points to success notion - it feeds directly into the easy money thinking.
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      • Profile picture of the author Kay King
        This post got bumped only to complain and rant about it? :p

        It's not a bad plan and many use it to make money time after time.

        It's not condescending to newbies except in a few posts where newbies are trying to "explain" by posting things they've probably read somewhere else and have never tried.

        What is frustrating is trying to help newbies who want instant money with no time and no expense involved. It took me years to learn enough to earn an income and every one of those steps in the OP's post has sub-steps you must learn.

        Step 1. Pick a niche (5 minutes)

        how to choose a good niche, where to look, how to evaluate, trademark laws, domain registration, site building, keyword research, content creation

        Step 2. Set up a squeeze page and offer
        a free PLR report (30-45 minutes)

        What is a squeeze page, setting up autoresponder series, creating a product, uploading a product for distribution

        Step 3. Drive traffic by all means on a daily basis
        (2-3 hours per day x 5 days per week. That's at least
        10 hours in traffic generation effort, well done you're in the
        top 1% of IMers...)

        How to reach your target market, daily traffic generation methods, SEO ranking, backlinks, content syndication, ongoing rather than one shot for traffic. There are programs you can use to help drive traffic but you can't use them effectively until you learn the basic process.

        Step 4. Send an email per day Monday to Friday to your list
        with a daily tip (a video, a report, an article or an mp3)
        [30 minutes per day and doesn't have to be your content]

        How to find/do videos, report creation, a plan for a series of communications with your list, testing to determine best time sequence, split testing to determine best conversion method

        Step 5. Include in your email a 2 lines ad for an affiliate product
        as a PS.

        How to choose an affiliate product, how to write email series, how to set up autoresponder and track results, how to present your link in an email, etc

        BONUS Step 6: Spend 1-2 hours to educate yourself on IM
        on Saturday

        For newbies - I'd say spend 2 hours to educate yourself on IM daily to begin with. Learn who to listen to, what sites are factual and which are only promotional - and stop buying dreams.

        You won't be rich overnight but stick to it for
        6 to 12 months and you may be able to quit your job.

        *** Is it easy? Not really - there's hours of work involved

        *** Is it fast money? Not often - there's time involved to get the word out and generate traffic

        *** Is it realistic? It damn sure is for those willing to use it as a guideline and plug in their brain to learn the rest of the sub-topics.


        I think many people expect to read a "blueprint" or a "plan" and collect money after they finish reading it. You have to read between the lines and learn the details. You can't just "do it" - you have to do it well to get results and you can't skip steps you don't understand.

        Perhaps the most valuable part of this post is the underlined quote above. This isn't a one week wonder - it's a planned and executed method that takes time but yields results. How many newbies actually work on one thing for 6-12 months????? Not many.

        The real beauty of a plan like this is once you put in the work and have it set up and running efficiently - you can move on and create another income stream while this first one continues to produce. It's one way to BUILD a business in IM.

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      • Profile picture of the author DigitalBusker
        Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

        Really? Seriously? Flyers? Share with friends? You had "countless ways to drive traffic" to choose from and you chose those?

        I think you just made Andy's and the Devil is in the details people's points.

        I pretty much stopped reading after three. .
        Yes, presumably you, "stopped reading after three," because the methods being suggested are....what? Wrong, out of date? What might you do differently?
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      • Profile picture of the author briley knox
        One thing I like about this post it's give the newbie something to thinks about and try to do most do nothing then related that they can't make money online. It's got to start some where. Look at all the input form other Warriorer how can you go wrong with all this information. Good Job!
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  • Profile picture of the author BennyTheWriter
    Thanks for the awesome post. It may not be for those who are completely wet behind the ears, but I'm a "knowledgeable newbie" who sees the inspiration and potential in this simple blueprint. It's just a matter of putting it into practice and learning through experience.
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  • Profile picture of the author JasonParker
    I actually really like this post.

    Because now a newbie has a map and all he has to do now is look for the info related to the map.

    With persistence the newb should find out everything possible about steps 1 through 6 and just do it.

    The newb now knows exactly what questions to ask.
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    • Profile picture of the author Psst
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      Originally Posted by JasonParker View Post

      I actually really like this post.

      Because now a newbie has a map and all he has to do now is look for the info related to the map.

      With persistence the newb should find out everything possible about steps 1 through 6 and just do it.

      The newb now knows exactly what questions to ask.
      Very like your point of view!

      The foundation has been laid down. Now it is time to start construction. Don't expect to be spoon fed newbies. If you don't understand a word, do a quick search or if you don't understand a process, start analyzing.
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    • Profile picture of the author Nightengale
      The OP is right: it IS simple. But as someone else said, his view is from 40,000 miles away. It's waaaay too general.

      Andy is MORE right. "Newbie" is a relative term and what's easy for some is very difficult for others. I've spent HOURS and HOURS learning little things that SHOULD be simple (web design for example) -- but aren't. Just setting up a simple squeeze page can be very difficult and/or time-consuming if you're not very techie or knowledgeable about HTML, PHP or whatever.

      Granted, I was learning all that before WordPress, but even with WordPress, just changing the littlest thing can take hours and drive you crazy while you figure out HOW to do it. (I just spent a good 30 minutes trying to remember how to edit the title of one of my sidebar items for example. :p My site is a custom-designed WP site and for the life of me, I couldn't figure out how to edit the title!)

      Aside from technical issues (which online ANYTHING is rife with), there's picking the right market, knowing who your target market is, what they'll buy and why, positioning your business against the competition, etc.

      Picking the right product/service for the right target market is not as simple as it seems. And most newbies have NO clear idea on their WHO: their ideal target market. This is a HUGE problem. Most newbies think EVERYONE would be a good prospect for their product/service. Even those with some experience don't realize that the more tightly they define their target market and the more specific (i.e. smaller) their niche, the more likely they are to dominate that niche and become THE go to person/business.

      It seems counter-intuitive, but the smaller your niche (i.e. "pond"), the more likely your success. In a pond, you can become the big fish. In the ocean, you'll just get lost (and eaten).

      Then there's the sales/conversion process (copywriting, traffic, etc.) which usually requires a good amount of testing, tweaking and staying power. You have to stick with it until you find the right combination.

      Yes, the online marketing process IS simple, as you've outlined. I'm not trying to over-complicate it, but the devil IS in the details.

      Don't oversimplify it. You might make a struggling newbie feel stupid when all he/she needs to do is hang in there and do a little tweaking.

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      • Profile picture of the author whatihave
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        Originally Posted by Nightengale View Post

        The OP is right: it IS simple. But as someone else said, his view is from 40,000 miles away. It's waaaay too general.
        I agree with both points. I liked it though because sometimes simplicity is best. I was inundated with an influx of information that actually overwhelmed be when I first started, so if I was a little bit more inexperienced. This outline, of sorts, would have actually been quite helpful to me. It's the bare basics but with adequate research of each step (when it's required), this could definitely be helpful to someone.
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    • Profile picture of the author SuperRyan
      Originally Posted by JasonParker View Post

      I actually really like this post.

      Because now a newbie has a map and all he has to do now is look for the info related to the map.

      With persistence the newb should find out everything possible about steps 1 through 6 and just do it.

      The newb now knows exactly what questions to ask.
      Thanks. Confusion create inaction, simplicity create action. Just get
      started one step at a time...
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  • Profile picture of the author Alex Kage
    I think I can write an Ebook with all the info that is laid out on this page. Nice blueprints and some of them even go into details.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rick B
    That's not a blueprint for success. It's an "outline" for one method of achieving success. Each one of the steps in the outline require several other steps in order to accomplish them. Each step is full of potential for making mistakes that could derail the entire process.

    There's nothing wrong with starting with an outline. It's a beginning. I just don't want newbies to waste their time thinking that this is the "magic bullet to success". The magic bullet is determination, hard work and endurance at whatever you decide to do in life.
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    • Profile picture of the author SuperRyan
      Originally Posted by Rick B View Post

      That's not a blueprint for success. It's an "outline" for one method of achieving success. Each one of the steps in the outline require several other steps in order to accomplish them. Each step is full of potential for making mistakes that could derail the entire process.

      There's nothing wrong with starting with an outline. It's a beginning. I just don't want newbies to waste their time thinking that this is the "magic bullet to success". The magic bullet is determination, hard work and endurance at whatever you decide to do in life.
      Totally agree!
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  • Profile picture of the author Nightengale
    For me, picking a niche was pretty quick and simple.

    But it was also VERY general. Combining it with the right target market AND the right business model took me YEARS.

    In the meantime, I dabbled in IM, learned a lot and even earned some money. That money wasn't a lot and was from small one off projects, not consistent money from a well-chosen target market and business model. I spent a lot of time trying to "find myself" online, that is, choosing my niche, business model and target market. I jumped around and was all over the place while I tried to figure it out.

    But last year, I FINALLY hit on the right combination for me, and will be launching the business in a BIG way later this year. I had some awesome mentoring from an incredible mentor last year too, and I'm SO excited!

    Given my own experience and the questions/problems I see posted here all the time, I doubt choosing a niche will take anyone else 5 minutes either. :rolleyes:

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  • Profile picture of the author Ed Micah
    I do agree with Ryan yet Andy's his point there as well.

    Ryan has just provided the blueprint - the basic ideas of how to and what's next step
    but yes, by simply following the blueprint is not going to be enough. There are alot of works that needs to be studied to maximize the profits as well. So both of them got their points
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  • Profile picture of the author joker790
    The methodology is right and solid. If it doesn't work for a noob, then they need to utilize the forum and ask for help. Lots of great content out there already.
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  • Profile picture of the author winsenken
    I though we need to have a informative content in our blog first before we build the list?
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    • Profile picture of the author JasonParker
      Originally Posted by winsenken View Post

      I though we need to have a informative content in our blog first before we build the list?
      What's your reasoning behind that?
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  • Profile picture of the author JCorp
    I think the main point here is just taking action and starting with something...Step one seems to be "newbie" friendly enough. If you're not sure what the profitable niches are out there, that's what Google and WF are for. And for "newbies" who aren't familiar with the term niche it means market/category/topic/expertise/focused, targeted portion of a whole...it can also mean British Thoroughbred racehorse (but obviously that doesn't apply to IM).
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  • Profile picture of the author robnoble
    I'm getting very tired of the condescending way a number of posters talk about "newbies".

    One of the big marketers I read a while go (I can't remember which one now) was talking about researching his target audience and he used the research to produce an average prospect he could focus on when writing copy, emails etc.

    This average prospect was 30+, married, averagely successful in his job but unhappy in it etc etc - nowhere in this picture of his average prospect did he mention that he was a moron who couldn't work out for himself that an outline for an internet marketing business model might need a bit of fleshing out and that if he didn't understand some of the concepts, terminology and processes, that he'd need to go find out what they meant!

    I agree the time given to each step is more than a bit off! but I think we can all agree that one of the fundamental mistakes we all make when we begin is to not have a simple clear overview of a business model that we can then focus our learning and actions on. Instead we get sucked into tactics and gizmos without any idea how to assemble them into a workable clear business plan.

    In short:

    An overview is an overview, an outline is an outline and people aren't stupid because they are just starting out!

    Rant over
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      Originally Posted by robnoble View Post

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      one of the fundamental mistakes we all make when we begin is to not have a simple clear overview of a business model
      I don't think anyone would disagree with this but a business model that is not actionable is no business model. Thats what Andy and others are really getting at. Drive traffic is not a business model. Its a dream. Even an outline for business success must be actionable or its useless. How much of a business model is this?

      1) Start a business
      2) Get lots of customers
      3) Make sales and profit

      IF we can agree that this is useless then the debate is at what point getting more detailed would such a overview become useful? I and others would argue that simply "drive traffic" is most definitely not useful (its just verbage) and its the key in the cog since no monetization of any business model can work without it.
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    • Profile picture of the author David Hawke
      Originally Posted by robnoble View Post

      I'm getting very tired of the condescending way a number of posters talk about "newbies".

      One of the big marketers I read a while go (I can't remember which one now) was talking about researching his target audience and he used the research to produce an average prospect he could focus on when writing copy, emails etc.

      This average prospect was 30+, married, averagely successful in his job but unhappy in it etc etc - nowhere in this picture of his average prospect did he mention that he was a moron who couldn't work out for himself that an outline for an internet marketing business model might need a bit of fleshing out and that if he didn't understand some of the concepts, terminology and processes, that he'd need to go find out what they meant!

      I agree the time given to each step is more than a bit off! but I think we can all agree that one of the fundamental mistakes we all make when we begin is to not have a simple clear overview of a business model that we can then focus our learning and actions on. Instead we get sucked into tactics and gizmos without any idea how to assemble them into a workable clear business plan.

      In short:

      An overview is an overview, an outline is an outline and people aren't stupid because they are just starting out!

      Rant over
      Looks like they've touched a nerve there Rob.

      You're right just because people are just starting out doesn't mean they're stupid. However spinning your wheels with tactics like one commenter mentioned of handing out flyers as an IM strategy is counter productive.

      There is definitely research and work to get started in this business.

      Thanks for pointing out the fact that getting started with a clear plan is key. Plan the work and work the plan.
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  • Profile picture of the author TopKat22
    All true points.

    This is what is shown most often in forums.

    General answers and yet it is the details where "newbies" get caught up.

    That is why I went out to search for things that are free or low cost that have all the details and FINALLY, I could do all those things that the OP listed and yes, it did indeed work and is repeatable.

    It is amazing what you can find free in this forum, in the War Room and Make Money Online forum here.

    For newbies, there are a lot of other posts where valuable information has been given if you search for "newbie" on this forum.

    There have also been lots of valuable information under how to find a niche and how to get traffic. It does take some time, but it is time worth spending.
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  • Profile picture of the author robnoble
    Agreed Mike

    But your list is unfair to the original poster who was clearly directing beginners towards a list building model, which is a good model to follow.

    Is it oversimplified? absolutely, does it lack true actionable detail? of course, but I wish someone had pushed me along finding a clear outline of what works that I could then direct all my learning and resources to when I was starting out.

    And if it was going to be any worthwhile model I would have hoped list building was front and center just like this.

    So to be clear to any beginners reading this. Take the outline for what it is - a very high overview, ignore the timings attached to each step (they are way way out) and now get filling in the detail using the outline to direct what you read and what you buy - but don't wait to begin till you have every bit of information you think you need - just enough or you will never get started!
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    • Profile picture of the author TopKat22
      Originally Posted by robnoble View Post

      Agreed Mike

      Take the outline for what it is - a very high overview, ignore the timings attached to each step (they are way way out) and now get filling in the detail using the outline to direct what you read and what you buy - but don't wait to begin till you have every bit of information you think you need - just enough or you will never get started!
      Very good point for newbies. They could and should take definite action even while they are learning.

      They could start by finding a good niche, search this forum and google for how to find a good niche and keywords (there have been many posts on here about that) and get that step done.

      Yes, it most likely will take more than 5 minutes but is a start.

      I think the primary trouble with newbies is that there are so many headlines promising tons of money with little work that they look for one of those easy ways until they finally either quit or have to start over for real.
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    • Profile picture of the author SuperRyan
      Originally Posted by robnoble View Post

      Agreed Mike

      But your list is unfair to the original poster who was clearly directing beginners towards a list building model, which is a good model to follow.

      Is it oversimplified? absolutely, does it lack true actionable detail? of course, but I wish someone had pushed me along finding a clear outline of what works that I could then direct all my learning and resources to when I was starting out.

      And if it was going to be any worthwhile model I would have hoped list building was front and center just like this.

      So to be clear to any beginners reading this. Take the outline for what it is - a very high overview, ignore the timings attached to each step (they are way way out) and now get filling in the detail using the outline to direct what you read and what you buy - but don't wait to begin till you have every bit of information you think you need - just enough or you will never get started!
      Thank you!

      Yes this is list building and me too I wish someone gave me a clear plan to follow without trying to make it more complicated than it is.

      Ryan
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  • Profile picture of the author RHert
    You all crack me up. I've just read through this whole thread weighing both sides.
    I think the way people are responding really tells you how they see other people. Some think others are stupid and have to be led through every step (which will never happen by the way. The market who wrote it doesn't realize that they know something critical because it's just second nature to them. They aren't trying to cheat you. They just don't think of it.)
    If you can't problem solve then IM really isn't a business you'll ever succeed in. Every person will run into different problems for different reasons. No one else can or will solve those problems for you. It is up to you. I can't show you every step because I do not know where that hitch is going to come into play for you. Learn to get yourself past it and think for yourself and things will work out eventually.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mikaedi88
    Thanks a the great tips, will be great for newbies
    Even others who disagreed
    All good
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  • Profile picture of the author StevenJones
    If it were that simple. I would do it like that always. Your overal guidelines are the way to go, but is a lot more to this kind of marketing then only sending out PLR products and affiliate offers.

    What about the 'qaulity' of the landing page?
    What about competition?
    What about the wasted time?

    You should throw some more emphasis on the fact the blueprint is right, but copying those 6 steps without any solid bases of information before executing them could really bankrupt a newbie.
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  • Profile picture of the author perfectlovehere
    Well what is the best method of traffic generation in this case? And how much have you made using this method?
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  • Profile picture of the author JeremiahSay
    Sounds very easy, thanks for the great tips

    may God bless you,
    Jeremiah
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  • Profile picture of the author wfhblueprints
    I think this thread has thrown up an interesting debate....

    And that is whether marketers in general know what they should be teaching newbies or not.

    The OP's process is essentially what many marketers do on a regular basis.....

    And yes....it does require more details to be a complete picture of what should be going on....

    I think many of us assume that newbies can do all of the things that we take for granted.....and that is where the problem lies!

    Kind regards

    Chris
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  • Profile picture of the author giseo
    Traffic isn't as easy as people think and is key. How do you generate traffic?
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  • Profile picture of the author JuniorNB
    We never get to the advance level without going through the newbies level.

    We are all once started at the beginners level.

    Through out our journey we learn what works what not....in between we lost our ways and someone lead us back to the right path. It is a colorful journey i must say .

    I was once a clueless newbie i did not even know how to setup an autoresponder. I have to seek help and paid $97. The job never delivered. Do i stop there? No. I look it from positive perspective...i need to learn and install it myself. Expensive lesson but it's when things get though, the though gets going .

    I agree with both Ryan and Andy...

    To all beginners who is reading this thread...It's not easy but it's not that difficult

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  • Profile picture of the author rowanman28
    No, I agree with the second statement. It sounds good in theory, but it's like me saying learn SEO, and get on the first page of a Google search on "make money now", and then sell money making products.
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  • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
    It seems like some people are taking the perspective of "newbies need a lot of detail" to mean that people think all newbies are stupid and need spoon-feeding.

    The reality is - some newbies are way more intelligent than some of the Gurus - the only difference is, they're new to the information and strategies of IM.

    Saying that they need a lot more detail is NOT saying that it's because they're stupid - the exact opposite, it's because without the detail it's easy to overlook or generalise something that needs testing and experience by the person in order to get the best results for them.

    The big thing that many people forget about IM is that it's not a one-size fits all situation.

    Just because I can record some audio and make money with it - doesn't mean that someone else could. In fact, the fact that I also work in radio and have a lot of contacts means I can get some air-time just by making a phone call, and wouldn't need to pay for it. So it's highly unlikely that anyone wanting to repeat my results would be able to actually implement my techniques in the same way - so they'd need to find out how to best get their results in their own way.

    So if I said "record a topical interview with a well-known or respected person and get it played on the radio", for some people that would just be almost impossible. The Devil is in the details.

    I'm not knocking the OP - I think it's great that people come here and share and it makes this forum a fantastic place, it's just the way that things get positioned/perceived as somehow being 'THE' blueprint, where in reality almost ANY structure or plan will need to be tailored based on the person using it, to leverage their skills, experience and resources.

    It's all good - please keep sharing and caring.

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  • Profile picture of the author meltingwaves
    Hola,

    Right on. A nice, more detailed way of saying "Find out what people want and give it to them as a product". Everyone overcomplicates this when they first come online. I know I did.
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    • Profile picture of the author Keith Boisvert
      Saying that they need a lot more detail is NOT saying that it's because they're stupid - the exact opposite, it's because without the detail it's easy to overlook or generalise something that needs testing and experience by the person in order to get the best results for them.

      The big thing that many people forget about IM is that it's not a one-size fits all situation.

      Just because I can record some audio and make money with it - doesn't mean that someone else could. In fact, the fact that I also work in radio and have a lot of contacts means I can get some air-time just by making a phone call, and wouldn't need to pay for it. So it's highly unlikely that anyone wanting to repeat my results would be able to actually implement my techniques in the same way - so they'd need to find out how to best get their results in their own way.
      Exactly. Everyone comes from different walks of life and have many different life/work experiences that make up who they are. Those experiences set them apart from everyone else and will impact how they take action.

      I could write a killer report on how to make money working with musicians/bands, but if I just wrote "#4: Hook bands up with venues" the average person without my contacts would most likely have a problem. Which means they might try to skip this step...having a direct impact on my "plan".(then calling me names for not delivering $$ into their bank account)

      Overall there is nothing wrong with the OP as one of many biz models. However, it is up to the individual to fill in the gaps below each line item, which comprises of a combo of knowledge and experience.

      ~keith
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  • Profile picture of the author George Wright
    Thank goodness for AOL.

    Back in the day, for me and thousands like me AOL was the Internet and the Internet was AOL.

    When I first discovered the Internet I immidiatly knew there was money to be made. All one had to do was figure it out.

    And that's what we did, we figured things out.

    We already knew the basics.

    It's all a numbers game or...

    It's a skills game.

    Truth be told, it should be both, however, if you have to choose, choose numbers. Skills will come in time and anyone can make money with numbers alone, but no one can make money with skills alone.

    So, back when everyone was a newbie sometimes we needed complete instructions on everything from how to email, chat, post, etc. We figured out how to use dogpile, lycos, hotbot, search.com and in time we finally got the only SE we would ever need, Altavista.

    Need to know HTML? Search for it. Need to know how to find or make something to sell? Search. Today we say Google it.

    Other times we simply figured things out through trial and error.

    So what's my point? The point is, one way or another we figured things out.

    Then along came Article Network which turned into the Warrior Secret Site which turned into the Warrior Forum.

    Allen pulled together a bunch of sales people, marketers, copywriters, writers, and others who wanted to take what they "knew" and make it work on the Super Highway. (I actually had an out of town guest, visiting me in So. California ask me to take her to see "that new super highway everyone's talking about")

    I'm saying...

    The OP is right on or the OP is wrong. It all depends on who's reading.

    As a matter of fact, according to many here, I'm totally wrong when I say selling can be only a numbers game with little or no skills. That's OK. So I'm wrong. I'll keep on being wrong.

    But I'll tell you this, drive lots of traffic to lots of buy now buttons and you will be happy. Drive lots of targeted traffic to lots of buy now buttons and you will be happier. Drive lots of hungry traffic to killer copy sites that makes your hungry market's mouth water like Niagara Falls and you will be at your happiest.

    But, how? Trust me, it's worth figuring out.

    Now, you just wasted your time reading the most worthless post of 2012 or not. That, Dear Newbie is entirely in your hands.

    Posting in the dark on my Droid, half asleep,

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  • Profile picture of the author echelon
    Thanks for the plan. It is really clear and I like the fact you have included statistics. Selling PLR is something I would like to specialize on.
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  • Profile picture of the author DigitalBusker
    Can't help wondering, for a noob, if IM is the same for them as it was for me first time I ever switched on a computer? My experience was basically a case of press ON button, wait a minute for the Windows 95 graphic to appear, on the old Ray tube, then thinking to myself....well now what? Still I'd taken the first step.

    Arrived here, and then find people using words or phrases like "landing Page," "autoresponder," "niche research," "Squeeze page (sounds rude) "backlinking,"PLR." Etc.

    Interesting I have been merrily using HTML for years. But never knowingly created a HTML item myself. In fact the closest I have come to IM is probably selling on Ebay (Feedback 160+) since about 2005.
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  • Profile picture of the author czilbersher
    Ryan, good plan and very well-received. However, it does remind me a little of Steve Martin's old routine on SNL back in the 80's. Old-timers, remember this one?:

    "How to Be A Millionaire....and NEVER Pay Taxes!"

    Step 1: Get a million dollars.

    Step 2: When the IRS comes knocking at your door, demanding an answer for why you ignored April 15th, simply remember these two words: "I forgot."



    (What can I say... it was a different generation and it was funny at the time.)

    Ryan, the only part of your plan for which I have a criticism is the suggestion that you email your list every day. That's the kind of activity for which Gmail filters were created. (Forget the Inbox; go straight to Delete).
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  • Yes well I see that you are trying to help, but these kinda things did not help me at all. Like: Pick a niche. When I started I was like ok? How do I do that? How do I know which niche is good and which is not. If you know what I mean.
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  • Profile picture of the author Daniel Wilson
    How about: pick a niche (2 days).

    I've done that so many times where my research was off and I've invested $50 into a site that a week later seemed like a total waste (and it was).
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    • Originally Posted by Daniel Wilson View Post

      How about: pick a niche (2 days).

      I've done that so many times where my research was off and I've invested $50 into a site that a week later seemed like a total waste (and it was).
      Been there.. That is what I mean, when people who have been in the IM for some time know how to do niche research so they often just say: "Pick a niche", but there are so many wrong ways to do this.
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  • Profile picture of the author money fan
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    Great blueprint!
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  • Profile picture of the author washout
    Lots of good info in this thread. Thanks Everyone!
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  • Profile picture of the author mikelukjaniec
    Hi Ryan
    I've just read your post and as relative newcomer to IM you've given me a good insight into what I should be doing and how I should be doing it. Many Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author Newbie Watch
    I agree.. this is a nice layout of what a newbie should do. Although it could have been a little more detailed on how to get the right information for each step.. I also want to add that there are tons of different ways for a newbie to make money online. It’s good to research different options to see what works for you.
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  • Profile picture of the author MattBrighton
    Easier said than done.

    The principle is very easy to make money online. Its very easy to say "Create site A, Sell product B, Earn Cash" however it requires hard work to make a good living online and good knowledge. Its all about research and knowing what your doing. Like any job in the world, to understand what to do, you have to get stuck into the job, your first day will always be your worst, but it can only get better from there.

    Newbies will struggle with this method because of course, there is a lot more to it than simply doing each of those steps
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  • Profile picture of the author JamesMcCaferty
    I think the good thing about this blueprint is that it tells people to take action. If they are smart, they'll learn from their mistakes.

    So often people consume information, instead of being productive. People confuse reading an ebook with getting things done.

    Of course, there is a done of information and tips a newbie can read to better excel, so people need a mix of information AND action
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  • Profile picture of the author hustlinsmoke
    That is a great blueprint and I know you wanted it to be short and sweet, we all know there is more to it, but your right for the most part that is it. Just a lot of tidbits in between. Thank you for the thread.
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  • Profile picture of the author Henry White
    This reminds me of the classic comedy skit by Bill Cosby (almost 50 years ago!):

    "Noah! Build me an ark!"

    "What's an 'ark'?"

    Encouraging clueless newbiew to race into action before they are exposed to the fundamentals, much less understand them well enough to make informed decisions, is undoubtedly one key reason so many of them are frustrated doing a lot of impertinent busy-work with a shakey business model in a niche that's never going to monetize they way they expect.

    Obviously you have to "take action" and "stick with one method until it pays off" - but that's only appropriate after you've built a solid foundation and understand the options available, and put a little thought into who you are, your strengths, preferences, habits, passions, and how to optimize that uniqueness.

    Skimp on these preliminaries and prerequisites and you're going to pay dearly for it later. Take the time, make the effort, and you empower yourself and accelerate results that are real, that you can take to the bank.
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  • Profile picture of the author Noel Cunningham
    Moral of the story is IM is NOT a quick fix cash machine that some may say it is. It is something that you will have to work at, how hard and how smart is up to each individual.

    Ryan's blueprint is very general but you know what - by even following a basic plan one can say themselves a lot of time and effort by having a specific goal to work towards. I think the best way of achieving the objective (i.e. to make money online) is to have and implement a strategic and well thought out plan of action!

    It may be hard for a newbie to do in the beginning but with a little effort and research will save tonnes of time and heartache down the line. Just my 2 cents....
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  • Profile picture of the author LetsGoViral
    Can't make it easier than that.
    Challenge accepted.

    Here's my super simple blueprint that is GUARANTEED to make money for any newbie:

    1. Register as an affiliate for product.
    2. Sell 100 copies a day.
    3. $$$!!!
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