Get away from Warrior Forum

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Let me get this out of the way....

I LOVE Warrior forum and in no way slamming it here. I've met a lot of great folks here, learned a lot here, and benefited financially as well from Warrior Forum.

But I just wanted to encourage folks and especially "newbies" to find their own voice by adding other influences besides Warrior Forum to their studies.

Study traditional business and marketing books, read about successful entrepreneurs you admire, read the Wall Street Journal and so on just to give you a more well rounded view of business and marketing.

I personally like reading biographies of successful entrepreneurs, because quite often they have a code of rules, or a simple mantra that they live by which can be quite inspirational for my own business. It really helps simplify things IMO.

The reason I felt compelled to write this is because one of the complaints I hear a lot on here, especially in the WSO section, is about so much of the same ideas and practices going on... i.e. promoting or creating Clickbank products, article marketing, etc. While you can make money doing those things and they are worthwhile, maybe there's a unique idea and bigger idea that is inside of you just waiting to come out. IMHO, an in-depth and well-rounded study in and outside of Warrior Forum will help you discover how you want to fit into the business world. You'll find a a way of doing business that befits you, and your products and services will be better because of it.

One last thing.... dream BIG. Life isn't a dress rehearsal. We get one shot. We didn't become entrepreneurs so we could live week-to-week. Think big, set big expectations, and take BIG action. That's a theme you see a lot in reading about successful leaders, etc.

That's the end of my rant. In the words of Dennis Miller, "but that's just my opinion, I could be wrong."
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  • Profile picture of the author lotsofsnow
    Originally Posted by Free Time View Post

    read the Wall Street Journal and so on just to give you a more well rounded view of business and marketing.
    That's a great idea!

    ... did not have time for that the last 3 years or so.

    Maybe I should get a subscription again. That does not mean that I would read every issue but at least I could...

    When I have more time...
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    • Originally Posted by hpgoodboy View Post

      Maybe I should get a subscription again. That does not mean that I would read every issue but at least I could...
      WSJ Online is cheaper and quicker to scan for articles of interest. There's free content but you really need to be a subscriber to get the good stuff. Plus you become part of a community if you want to be.

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  • Profile picture of the author aldentan
    Dream BIG indeed =) Not many people believe in themselves enough
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  • Profile picture of the author anthonyb
    I absolutely agree with Free Time, one need to broaden ones horizon. It really helps to make you rounded and exposes you to other ways of doing things. Interestingly those experiences could be shared with others here, which will ultimately help with continuous improvement of WF.
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  • Profile picture of the author Big Gee
    Originally Posted by Free Time View Post

    One last thing.... dream BIG. Life isn't a dress rehearsal. We get one shot. We didn't become entrepreneurs so we could live week-to-week. Think big, set big expectations, and take BIG action. That's a theme you see a lot in reading about successful leaders, etc.

    That's the end of my rant. In the words of Dennis Miller, "but that's just my opinion, I could be wrong."
    inspirational and so true...thank you
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  • Profile picture of the author hgy
    nice... ;] but i dont know about only getting one shot.. you can try and fail and stop and continue when ever you want.
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    • Profile picture of the author JD Jens
      Originally Posted by hgy View Post

      nice... ;] but i dont know about only getting one shot.. you can try and fail and stop and continue when ever you want.
      By one shot I just mean one life. When we're gone we don't get a do over.
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    • Profile picture of the author Sandor Verebi
      Hi Free Time,

      Nice nick.

      Anyway... not hurt even when you acquire the necessary knowledge to build your business from multiple sources. You can learn in different schools and studies a lot.

      But the school don't teach you everything. Not is their task to do that. Their task is to teach you to think and learn.

      Learning is a lifelong process.

      Despite my studies, as I go forward in time, increasingly perceive how much I don't know. So, if I don't want to fall behind, need to keep pace with development. But, learning is fun, every time.

      Best,

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  • Profile picture of the author jamesboulay
    Originally Posted by Free Time View Post

    Let me get this out of the way....

    That's the end of my rant. In the words of Dennis Miller, "but that's just my opinion, I could be wrong."

    You are so correct. Whenever I get nagged to speak at conferences or local colleges (I travel for business so I won't travel to speak lol) I always point to the "what they had inside them" aspect about entrepreneurs. Knowledge was never stuck in one spot.
    One topic many don't talk about is philosophy. Asking why and how to come up with an answer works wonders.
    As far as forums, I think the WF is probably the most in depth out there for general Internet Marketing topics, however there are, like you said, tons of articles people can read for free. A lot of net business comes down to "mind set" I feel and so far that's what's been carrying me places.
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  • Profile picture of the author jvjoe
    Originally Posted by Free Time View Post

    I personally like reading biographies of successful entrepreneurs, because quite often they have a code of rules, or a simple mantra that they live by which can be quite inspirational for my own business. It really helps simplify things IMO. "

    Great thought!
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  • Profile picture of the author go4wealth
    Originally Posted by Free Time View Post

    Think big, set big expectations, and take BIG action. That's a theme you see a lot in reading about successful leaders, etc.
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    Might as well think Big .. it takes the same amount of time to think small. One of the most important lesson we can learn in life is to take Big Massive ACTION. Of course there is more to it but one thing is certain ... inaction and little tiny actions will produce guaranteed results.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rough Outline
    I agree, successful business people are always leaders, never followers. You risk becoming a follower if you just use the Warrior Forum. It's a great resource, but it shouldn't be your only resource.
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  • Profile picture of the author PatrickP
    Find someone(s) who are successful in the industry you want to be successful in.

    Ask them to help you and tell you how they did it. This is what I did I FOLLOWED other people who were kind enough to help for FREE! I became a multimillionaire thanks to many people.

    There is no harm in asking and you may be surprised how much help you do receive.
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    • Profile picture of the author Bentley74
      Sage advice, Free time. Great post!

      A well-rounded IM education (and business education in general) certainly makes a big difference!

      The very first IM product I bought (an e-Book) was "Make Your Site Sell", by Ken Evoy, back in the fall of 2004. Of course, this led me down the slippery slope to SiteBuildit (Evoy's all-in-one website business in a box product). In a lot of ways I STILL think this product can be a decent option for those just getting into IM - since it basically helps to put all the various pieces of the puzzle together for you, as long as you are willing to put in the work and - to a certain degree - "play by their rules".

      When you go this route, you basically end up in the SiteSell happy-smiley bubble. If you want to get help and be part of the "family", you need to drink the koolaid.

      My problem (which in hindsight is a positive attribute) is that I don't work that way. When I get interested in something I tend to get a bit obsessive and "need" to learn everything I can. ONE approach/perspective etc just isn't good enough - so I start to question things.

      Long-story-short, that basically resulted in me eventually cancelling my SiteBuildIt account and moving on. Of course, there are plenty of people who have simply stayed in the "bubble" and have done extremely well - so I'm certainly not trying to knock that approach.

      I'm just personally glad that I ventured off since it resulted in me getting a much more well-rounded education. I think Warrior forum is superb - and in a lot of ways I'm kicking myself for not really giving it a fair shot BACK when I actually created my account (lol), but I agree that newbies should work hard to find their own way. I'm somewhat surprised by the number of WF threads along the lines of "tell me how to make my fortune online".
      <sigh>

      You wrote:
      "I personally like reading biographies of successful entrepreneurs, because quite often they have a code of rules, or a simple mantra that they live by which can be quite inspirational for my own business. It really helps simplify things IMO."

      Yeah for sure. It's a great way to learn to key business fundamentals (rarely offered in the hyped up IM info-products), and just generally to get "into the heads" of some of these brilliant business people to see what's led them to become who they are.

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      • Profile picture of the author mrmarket
        Listen to all the Tony Robins CDs, apply everything he says to your business.
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        • Profile picture of the author Nightengale
          Free Time, I TOTALLY agree with you!

          The WF is it's own little cosmos and we all definitely need to get away sometimes. The business world is much, MUCH bigger than the WF.

          I love the WF too, but one of the dangers of spending all of your time here, relying ONLY (or mostly) on the WF is that there are a lot of great business people with great info out there that have never/will never be here. You'll be exposed to incredible people, info and experiences you'd never have had otherwise.

          As much as I love the WF, there's a HUGE downside/negative to it:

          Too many people here want to make money with little/no money or effort. Too many people come in here and complain. WSOs sold here are sold for bargain-basement prices and offer the sun, moon and stars.

          The make money with little/no money or effort mentality is dangerous. Not just because it's a lazy viewpoint from those with a sense of entitlement, but because it obscures the point:

          With today's technology, you have the opportunity to start a business from your bedroom by going online. Trouble is, when faced with that kind of low barrier to entry, too many people don't treat it like a BUSINESS. They treat it like a hobby instead -- a hobby that they can ignore whenever they feel like it.

          It's still a business, people! It still requires SOME money (however little). It still requires effort. It still requires consistency and persistence.

          Working from home in your PJs and starting with little money is a wonderful opportunity. But it's also dangerous to your attitude and motivation.

          Get out of your house sometimes! Network with other local business people, even if they're not potential clients. Watch/listen/read the business news. Read some real business books. Do whatever you have to to make yourself FEEL like a business person and stay reminded that this is a BUSINESS, not a hobby or a pet.

          And if you take care of your business, your business will take care of YOU.

          And isn't that the point?

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          • Profile picture of the author azmanar
            Hi,

            Accept this fact => PEOPLE are always looking for the all-in-one panacea to remedy their issues or to achieve their goals.

            Such people are everywhere and in every field of the economy - on the Internet or outside. So, you'll find them in WF as well. Accept it.

            It is not WF that is causing them to be what they are. WF is not about gathering people and building a group of narrow-minded cultists. People can come and go. They came to learn, picked-up some gems and used them in their ventures. They create their own experience.

            After having said that ... in the IM world, a lot of people haven't even heard of Warrior Forum. WF is only a tiny fraction of whatever that is out there. From the trillions of dollars passing around over the Internet, WSOs probably touch $12mil per year. This is insignificant.

            From the thousands of WF members, if we take 1,000 members earning 250k per year doing IM, that'll be $250mil per year. Plus everyone else, we add another $50mil. That would be $300mil per year. Now this is significant, if it is true.

            WF is about sharing. IN ANY TOPIC OF DISCUSSIONS, each member brought in their own unique backgrounds and unique perspectives. This is super enriching to members in terms of knowledge, standards, methods, tools, resources, channels, opportunities and external references.

            There are thousands of other forums and spaces. So, go ahead to enrich self with what they have to offer. Feel the difference. No one is stopping anybody.

            With more people looking at other resources than WF and then they come in here again to share, the more WF members are enriched with new perspectives.

            Keep in mind that WF is about sharing of knowledge, resources .... and even attitude.
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  • Profile picture of the author ronaldmd
    Warrior Forum is a decent place where people in here are decent. But in my opinion, people here are too serious. We need more jokes. What do you think?
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  • Profile picture of the author PatrickP
    knock knock . . .
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  • Profile picture of the author Craig McPherson
    I think the common theme is to be here as much as possible in the beginning and when you are confident you can spend less time here and more time working your business.

    Great post
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  • Profile picture of the author slamp
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    i am new at this forum

    and i already on offline business and marketing ..

    and you made a real attractive headline

    thank you very much sir , this is a really nice thread
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