If You Think The Rules Here Are Tough...

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Head on over to one of the Magic The Gathering forums. The rules there make
up a small PDF that could be sold for $27 easily.

And they are enforced with an iron hand. Half the stuff that goes on here
would get you banned within a day PERMANENTLY.

So before you start whining about PM limitations or sub forums or sig rules
or whatever, understand that, relatively speaking, you have it very easy here.
#rules #tough
  • Profile picture of the author lotsofsnow
    ... never heard about "Magic The Gathering". Is that some sort of forum?

    Doing some Google search now...
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    • Profile picture of the author jasonl70
      Originally Posted by hpgoodboy View Post

      ... never heard about "Magic The Gathering". Is that some sort of forum?

      Doing some Google search now...
      It's a very popular game played with cards, and has quite a passionate following.
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      • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
        Originally Posted by jasonl70 View Post

        It's a very popular game played with cards, and has quite a passionate following.
        Very passionate Jason. And you know what? Over there, if a question is
        answered in a thread regarding rules, that's it. It's answered. Coming in an
        answering the question with the same answer that's already been given, just
        to get your sig seen (you know how people play that game here) will get you
        an infraction.

        I wonder how many members here would be gone after a day over there.
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        • How to get thanks, approval and sig linkage on this forum:

          Appeal to the long term members that the rules here are easy on everyone and that no one should be complaining.

          Seek approval and get people who are not happy with the rules to argue and increase page views on your thread.

          How am I doing so far?
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          • Profile picture of the author Colm Whelan
            Originally Posted by Chris The Traffic Blogger View Post

            How to get thanks, approval and sig linkage on this forum:

            Appeal to the long term members that the rules here are easy on everyone and that no one should be complaining.

            Seek approval and get people who are not happy with the rules to argue and increase page views on your thread.

            How am I doing so far?
            ..... says the guy with 600 posts to the guy with 16,000. I think you've got post envy
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          • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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            Originally Posted by Chris The Traffic Blogger View Post

            How to get thanks, approval and sig linkage on this forum:

            Appeal to the long term members that the rules here are easy on everyone and that no one should be complaining.

            Seek approval and get people who are not happy with the rules to argue and increase page views on your thread.

            How am I doing so far?
            So you had a thread deleted. Get over it.
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          • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
            Originally Posted by Chris The Traffic Blogger View Post

            How am I doing so far?
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        • Profile picture of the author theemperor
          Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

          Very passionate Jason. And you know what? Over there, if a question is
          answered in a thread regarding rules, that's it. It's answered. Coming in an
          answering the question with the same answer that's already been given, just
          to get your sig seen (you know how people play that game here) will get you
          an infraction.

          I wonder how many members here would be gone after a day over there.
          Sounds like a barrel of laughs over there.
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    • Profile picture of the author Frank Donovan
      Originally Posted by hpgoodboy View Post

      ... never heard about "Magic The Gathering". Is that some sort of forum?
      There's a big difference between Magic The Gathering and the Warrior Forum

      One attracts millions of followers from all parts of the globe to engage in a fantasy world in which proponents are so passionately engrossed in their hobby, they frequently confuse it with real life. It's a world where wizards cast magic spells and visit sorcery upon their opponents and one which the losers are apt to dismiss as a mere contest of chance.

      The other is some sort of card game, apparently.


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      • Profile picture of the author lotsofsnow
        Originally Posted by Frank Donovan View Post

        There's a big difference between Magic The Gathering and the Warrior Forum

        One attracts millions of followers from all parts of the globe to engage in a fantasy world in which proponents are so passionately engrossed in their hobby, they frequently confuse it with real life. It's a world where wizards cast magic spells and visit sorcery upon their opponents and one which the losers are apt to dismiss as a mere contest of chance.

        The other is some sort of card game, apparently.


        Frank

        Yes, a card game. Most people would call the cards dollar bills though...


        Originally Posted by DaveHughes View Post

        Imagine playing chess, with the order you can move your pieces during your turn determined by random chance, except with exploding fireballs and occasional muttered cursing because your opponent can't use his Queen until his maintenance phase, due to her being turned on her side after taking out your rook.
        I stick with chess. All this new computer stuff is over my head (in regards to games).

        I know Tetris though... does that count?
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    • Profile picture of the author DaveHughes
      Originally Posted by hpgoodboy View Post

      ... never heard about "Magic The Gathering". Is that some sort of forum?

      Doing some Google search now...
      Imagine playing chess, with the order you can move your pieces during your turn determined by random chance, except with exploding fireballs and occasional muttered cursing because your opponent can't use his Queen until his maintenance phase, due to her being turned on her side after taking out your rook.

      I haven't thought about M:tG for years, Steve...I've got to dig my old cards out.
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  • Profile picture of the author Shannon Herod
    Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

    Head on over to one of the Magic The Gathering forums. The rules there make
    up a small PDF that could be sold for $27 easily.

    And they are enforced with an iron hand. Half the stuff that goes on here
    would get you banned within a day PERMANENTLY.

    So before you start whining about PM limitations or sub forums or sig rules
    or whatever, understand that, relatively speaking, you have it very easy here.
    My guess would be the mods were at the receiving end of bullying most of their lives, and now have some type of authority.

    So, they put the hammer down whenever they can. Especially if the culprit somehow reminds them of the person that did all of the emotional damage.

    Just a theory though...

    Shannon
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    • Profile picture of the author Alan Petersen
      Originally Posted by Shannon Herod View Post

      My guess would be the mods were at the receiving end of bullying most of their lives, and now have some type of authority.

      So, they put the hammer down whenever they can. Especially if the culprit somehow reminds them of the person that did all of the emotional damage.

      Just a theory though...

      Shannon
      Just about anyone with any type of authority, no matter how miniscule, usually has that theory thrown in their face by folks breaking the rules.

      I was a lowly security guard 20 some years ago and I had that thrown in my face for just doing the job. And nope, I wasn't bullied.
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      • Profile picture of the author Shannon Herod
        Originally Posted by Alan Petersen View Post

        Just about anyone with any type of authority, no matter how miniscule, usually has that theory thrown in their face by folks breaking the rules.

        I was a lowly security guard 20 some years ago and I had that thrown in my face for just doing the job. And nope, I wasn't bullied.
        The theory is more about the game than the authority. Plus, I was an infantry sniper in the United States Army, so I also now a little bit of what you are referring to.

        But, I was hinting more to the fact that the game itself (for the most part) draws the type of people that were bullied in their younger years. So, couple that with authority and...
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    • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
      Originally Posted by Shannon Herod View Post

      My guess would be the mods were at the receiving end of bullying most of their lives, and now have some type of authority.

      So, they put the hammer down whenever they can. Especially if the culprit somehow reminds them of the person that did all of the emotional damage.

      Just a theory though...

      Shannon
      Actually, Shannon, the rules are designated by the forum owner. The mods
      simply carry them out to the letter.

      I post very little over there because I don't know as much about the game
      as the old timers (many are level 1 to 3 judges) and usually only post to
      ask a rules question or give my opinion on how good a new card is.

      I think between the two main forums I have about 15 posts, if that.
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  • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
    It makes sense that a forum about a game would have a stricter feel for rules. That's part of gaming.

    Not to mention that MTG players are a bloodthirsty lot.


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    • Profile picture of the author Shannon Herod
      Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

      It makes sense that a forum about a game would have a stricter feel for rules. That's part of gaming.

      Not to mention that MTG players are a bloodthirsty lot.


      Paul
      I am a gamer myself, more towards the FPS on consoles though. There are some forums that are just as ridiculous as Wags describes. I chalk it up to my bully theory though. Shoot, instead of becoming a mod I became a sniper ;-)
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      • Profile picture of the author The 13th Warrior
        Originally Posted by Shannon Herod View Post


        I am a gamer myself, more towards the FPS on consoles though. There are some forums that are just as ridiculous as Wags describes. I chalk it up to my bully theory though. Shoot, instead of becoming a mod I became a sniper ;-)

        Yep, the same here.

        I played a few times some these Dungeons and Wizards type, not my thing.

        I like first person shooter, array of assault weapons and getting people in my scope, or taking out a Bowie knife and quietly negate targets in a stealth mission.

        The thing about those fantasy land games is that some people are so hard core in those games, it becomes an alternate reality or way of life, more than even Facebook. Forums or even a Sims type game, damn, may even boarder on religious devotion.


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    • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
      Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

      It makes sense that a forum about a game would have a stricter feel for rules. That's part of gaming.

      Not to mention that MTG players are a bloodthirsty lot.


      Paul
      Bloodthirsty is an understatement Paul.

      And knowledgeable? What passes for "knowledge" at many marketing forums
      would be laughed at over there in comparison. Trying to follow a thread on
      deck building and/or playing strategy can be difficult to impossible at times.

      Some of those guys eat, drink and sleep Magic and can recite the rule
      book by heart...a book that has been close to 20 years in the making.

      Boggles my mind how knowledgeable some of those guys are.
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  • Profile picture of the author tpw
    Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

    Head on over to one of the Magic The Gathering forums.

    Thank God that I have so far refused retirement.

    Playing "Magic the Gathering" more than once might lead me towards suicide, rather than any form of relaxation in my world. :p

    Life is too short for me to consider "Magic the Gathering" as a pass time... But if that was a game I played, I might change my mind and suggest that life was too long...
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  • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
    Shannon,
    There are some forums that are just as ridiculous as Wags describes. I chalk it up to my bully theory though.
    I've seen so many different motivations for someone becoming a moderator that I don't know that I could list them all. Everything from control junkies to "I just want to have a conversation without all this spam. What can we do to clean it up?"

    It changes with every forum, too. It's an interesting dynamic to watch. Sort of like sausage making.


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  • Profile picture of the author Will Edwards
    I got banned from a forum once because I put a link to my blog in my sig file Apparently, that makes you a spammer (in their eyes) despite any contributions you have made in the forum itself.

    So, yes, I agree with you. Nothing unreasonable, in terms of the forum rules, here.

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    • Profile picture of the author Lyanna
      Originally Posted by Will Edwards View Post

      I got banned from a forum once because I put a link to my blog in my sig file Apparently, that makes you a spammer (in their eyes) despite any contributions you have made in the forum itself.

      So, yes, I agree with you. Nothing unreasonable, in terms of the forum rules, here.

      Will
      NVidia forums did that to me. Some guy asked "where can I find x thing?" so I was "oh really, here's the link to the x thing I posted it on my blog" and it was instant ban hammer. They think if some guy asked something and you link to the answer it is spamming.

      Come to think of it...the question was about online gaming! I see a trend here.
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      • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
        Originally Posted by Lyanna View Post

        They think if some guy asked something and you link to your own answer it is spamming.
        Fixed that for you.

        Gaming communities tend to be very anti-capitalist, because gaming in general suffers from a lot of ill-conceived schemes by bean counters and suits to get more money out of them.

        For example, back in the 1990s, most console games had a "local co-op" mode where you could play multiplayer with your friends in the same room.

        Today, few games have this, because you can play local co-op with one console, one television, one copy of the game, and no subscription to the online multiplayer gaming service at all.

        This simply will not do. If two people want to play, you will need to get two of everything, and that is all there is to it. Plus, if you want to be in the same room when you play, you'll have to pack everything up and lug it over to the other guy's house so you can hook it up there... and if you happen to damage something on the way over, YAY! Now you have to replace it!

        Gamers basically spend the first 20 years of their existence getting screwed by people who don't give a crap about anything except money, so we get a little bitchy about affiliate links and self-promotion.

        Know your demographic. There are things you can sell gamers. Affiliate links to mass-market products are not among them.
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        • Profile picture of the author Lyanna
          Originally Posted by CDarklock View Post

          Know your demographic. There are things you can sell gamers. Affiliate links to mass-market products are not among them.
          Lol. I wasn't selling a mass market product to gamers.
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          • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
            Originally Posted by Lyanna View Post

            I wasn't selling a mass market product to gamers.
            Then I'm forced to facepalm, because that's the most legitimate thing you could get banned for doing on the NVidia forums.

            Which means you did something worse.
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  • Profile picture of the author BloggingPro
    A couple of months ago I was on the MTGO forums, the online counterpart of the card game, and oh my goodness was that a very straight and narrow place. If you want to see some serious ban-hammer usage check out one of the many World of Warcraft forums.

    From what I've noticed, gaming community (online, offline) don't have time to deal with bull****. In anyway, shape or form, and they will happily use the ban-hammer on you. Of course the flame wars on these same communities are also quite the sight to see--before they are happily shut down by a community mod.
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  • Profile picture of the author Melvolio
    The rules here could be tougher actually.

    I frequent a couple of music forums and people asking 'noobish' questions are shot down quite brutally.

    Not to condone that sort of behaviour but post count requirements for starting threads and sub forums for newbies seem to work well. Maybe I'm just being grumpy when I wince when someone asks yet another article marketing question that's been answered 70 times already.

    Post #5 made me laugh.
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  • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
    Caliban,
    Know your demographic.
    Oh yeaahhh.

    Try selling to tech-types the same way you'd sell to a marketer. Watch the sparks fly. Totally different mindset and assumptions, as a group.


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  • Profile picture of the author Lyanna
    Lol, worse? No, I didn't randomly go on Nvidia forums and spam them with porn.

    All I did was link to my blog. Yeah, the blog has affiliate links but it was on topic - i.e. not like I was selling ice cream to guy looking for a voice over internet service. Probably the mistake was making that my first post but hey, I logged in and that was the top thread in the forum. *shrugs* No big deal, I've posted links to my blogs on many top forums, including gaming and tech ones, Nvidia was the only one that brought down the ban hammer. Probably they have strict moderation there which is generally not the case with most forums.
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