When can I expect to make some money?

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Hi

I have had my first info site going for about 4 months now, I have been committed to it and adding content on an almost daily basis.

Have had 14,909 views since May this year.

Apart from a couple of dollars here and there, I haven't really started to make any money from it. I am using clickbank and adsense ads, along with amazon.
I have just added a product reviews page, hoping to get a few amazon sales from here.

I would appreciate any suggestions on how to start converting my visitors to buyers.

thanks
Angela
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  • Profile picture of the author Fazal Mayar
    You need to work on SEO if you want to start converting so you can generate targeted traffic. You can even hire someone for that.
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  • Profile picture of the author manicmethods
    If it's not making money, maybe start to build a list from it. Get Aweber or similar.

    Then you can just start to make them happy, send a newsletter for free. Then send them a free guide and then start to promote affiliate links and so on.

    Slow and steady wins the race etc.

    good luck!
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    • Profile picture of the author D37
      Originally Posted by manicmethods View Post

      If it's not making money, maybe start to build a list from it. Get Aweber or similar.

      Then you can just start to make them happy, send a newsletter for free. Then send them a free guide and then start to promote affiliate links and so on.

      Slow and steady wins the race etc.

      good luck!
      Wow Aweber looks really good. I can't believe how cheap it is as well! Is there anything cheaper then Aweber?
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    • Profile picture of the author infomaniacs
      Originally Posted by manicmethods View Post

      If it's not making money, maybe start to build a list from it. Get Aweber or similar.

      Then you can just start to make them happy, send a newsletter for free. Then send them a free guide and then start to promote affiliate links and so on.

      Slow and steady wins the race etc.

      good luck!
      Hi

      yep, I have started building a list, about 300 subscribers so far, at the moment I am sending them updates of when I have added new competitions and freebies or new jobs to the site. I only do this weekly as I don't want to annoy people.
      I usually include a related affililate ad also. Should I get my own product to sell?

      thanks
      Angela
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  • Profile picture of the author Matt Ward
    Let me be blunt for a second: you're asking the wrong question. Instead of "When can I expect to make money?" you should be asking "Why am I not making money?"

    For example, that "Pet Jobs" website doesn't have much commercial intent, meaning that people that would end up on your site wouldn't be the type to spend money. People looking for jobs generally aren't looking to spend money. It's not just that, though. You can't expect to make a lot of money from a website where people mainly would looking for information.

    Furthermore, the site is kind of jumbled. Why would you have reviews of pet products on a site about pet jobs? Would people looking for information on pet jobs be looking to buy pet products? Would they be looking for an article on dog coughing?

    The other site in your sig is about free ebooks. Would someone looking for free things be willing to spend money? Imagine trying to sell books to people at the library.

    These are the things you should be thinking about. If you were coming to your website, would you be looking to spend money? You can't just randomly put information online with ads on it and pray that you make some money from it. You're clearly willing to put in the time and effort, but I daresay that you're putting the effort into the wrong direction.

    My 2 cents. Take it or leave it.
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    • Profile picture of the author infomaniacs
      Originally Posted by Matt Ward View Post

      Let me be blunt for a second: you're asking the wrong question. Instead of "When can I expect to make money?" you should be asking "Why am I not making money?"

      For example, that "Pet Jobs" website doesn't have much commercial intent, meaning that people that would end up on your site wouldn't be the type to spend money. People looking for jobs generally aren't looking to spend money. It's not just that, though. You can't expect to make a lot of money from a website where people mainly would looking for information.

      Furthermore, the site is kind of jumbled. Why would you have reviews of pet products on a site about pet jobs? Would people looking for information on pet jobs be looking to buy pet products? Would they be looking for an article on dog coughing?

      The other site in your sig is about free ebooks. Would someone looking for free things be willing to spend money? Imagine trying to sell books to people at the library.

      These are the things you should be thinking about. If you were coming to your website, would you be looking to spend money? You can't just randomly put information online with ads on it and pray that you make some money from it. You're clearly willing to put in the time and effort, but I daresay that you're putting the effort into the wrong direction.

      My 2 cents. Take it or leave it.
      thanks for the feedback, hadn't looked at it from that perspective before.
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    • Profile picture of the author Daniel Brock
      Originally Posted by Matt Ward View Post

      Let me be blunt for a second: you're asking the wrong question. Instead of "When can I expect to make money?" you should be asking "Why am I not making money?"

      For example, that "Pet Jobs" website doesn't have much commercial intent, meaning that people that would end up on your site wouldn't be the type to spend money. People looking for jobs generally aren't looking to spend money. It's not just that, though. You can't expect to make a lot of money from a website where people mainly would looking for information.

      Furthermore, the site is kind of jumbled. Why would you have reviews of pet products on a site about pet jobs? Would people looking for information on pet jobs be looking to buy pet products? Would they be looking for an article on dog coughing?

      The other site in your sig is about free ebooks. Would someone looking for free things be willing to spend money? Imagine trying to sell books to people at the library.

      These are the things you should be thinking about. If you were coming to your website, would you be looking to spend money? You can't just randomly put information online with ads on it and pray that you make some money from it. You're clearly willing to put in the time and effort, but I daresay that you're putting the effort into the wrong direction.

      My 2 cents. Take it or leave it.
      Listen to Matt here, he's giving you some very solid advice.

      The biggest problem I've noticed for beginners is that it's hard for them to identify what a niche with "Buyers intent" looks like.

      Check out the keyword "cat urine" on google. While it might not be a niche with massive amounts of traffic, it has some decent buyer intent... it solves a problem.

      Now, your ragdoll cat products, they definitely have buyers looking for stuff like that however there aren't buyers looking for specific ragdoll cat brands. That will present a conversion issue.

      Just some food for thought.
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  • Profile picture of the author AdwordsMogul
    Matt is right... if you continue doing what you are doing, your results will not improve.

    It's not even about doing things better - it's about what you should be doing differently.

    The first question you need to ask is "who is my idea customer/market?". Then you ask yourself "What do they desperately want?".

    Once you have answers to those questions, things will become clearer.
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  • Profile picture of the author jrlsolutions
    Agreed with Matt 100%, but on his notion some suggestions would be to:

    Make sure your sites have quality content, easy navigation, and proper meta tagging. You won't get visitors AND keep them without those things.

    After that you cannot just post them and hope they advertise themselves. Create some helpful web 2.0 articles that link back to the relevant sites. Make sure to put them together in interesting and attractive ways. Create a hub page or a squidoo lens about 10 Free Arts and Crafts eBooks, or some similar idea.

    Make sure you have done the general sweep of search engine submissions, and try to remember to ping your site whenever you add a significant amount of new content.
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  • Profile picture of the author manicmethods
    IMO, it's not about how much traffic you get, some of my higher traffic sites earn less than my lower traffic sites. It's more about conversions.

    You could get 1000 uniques a day with a conversion rate of 0.2%

    You could have another site with 100 uniques a day with a conversion rate of 10%

    Obviously the latter is better. Yes, traffic is great, but it is how you convert that traffic that matters.
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  • Profile picture of the author art72
    While I think Matt's answer sums up the underlying problem, once you focus your attention on a buyer's market, you can get 'targeted traffic' through article syndication.

    There are plenty of threads describing step-by-step instructions on "How To" generate solid income streams through article syndication.

    Perhaps, one of the most powerful threads I ever read here is :

    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...mith-myob.html

    I recommend reading through it, some of WF's biggest contributor's reveal their techniques to mastering article syndication, and honestly it's mind blowing what can be achieved.

    Hope it helps.

    All the Best,

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  • Profile picture of the author Miguelito203
    Originally Posted by infomaniacs View Post

    Hi

    I have had my first info site going for about 4 months now, I have been committed to it and adding content on an almost daily basis.

    Have had 14,909 views since May this year.

    Apart from a couple of dollars here and there, I haven't really started to make any money from it. I am using clickbank and adsense ads, along with amazon.
    I have just added a product reviews page, hoping to get a few amazon sales from here.

    I would appreciate any suggestions on how to start converting my visitors to buyers.

    thanks
    Angela
    You shouldn't be putting adsense on pages where you are promoting products as an affiliate. When someone clicks on an ad, sure, you might make .30. HOWEVER, it takes them away from your site. When promoting products, the ONLY options for the end user should be to buy or leave (or sign up to an opt-in form so that you can promote to them down the line). Think of it like this. Why make .30 went you can make $30+ per sale? Also, when promoting physical products, go for the higher-priced stuff. You can use Google product search to find the hottest-selling stuff for the week and upcoming products as well.

    Good luck,
    Joey
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