I talked to someone who works for google

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Today I was able to talk to a friend of mine who works for google. She tells me that Google is doing away with pages with a lot of spam, clutter, and low quality articles. She removes pages with a lot of hyperlinks, PPC ads, and overall spam. If the page isn't a high quality page with useful information, it gets knocked back. She says that they started this a few months back. What do you all think about this?
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  • Profile picture of the author D37
    It makes sense. For the long-run I believe you want a highly optimized on-page SEO which includes having high quality content.
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  • Profile picture of the author JeanneLynn
    Is this the same thing as the Panda update that I keep reading about? Or will they be getting even more strict?
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    • Profile picture of the author pcdoctor
      They getting more strict from what I hear.
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  • Profile picture of the author feral
    I am new to the level of internet marketing etc that goes on in this forum but I have been helping clients put up websites and develop an online presence for some time now. I am no SEO expert but I think I know a bit about it and I see nothing surprising in those comments. I've always approached SEO for my clients in that way and stressed the importance of good quality content and relevant links etc to them.
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  • Profile picture of the author D37
    From what I hear some people believe that having at least 1000 word articles will really help you out post-panda. Good and good DIVERSE backlinking is important too.
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    • Profile picture of the author ss442
      From personal experience seeking a product or service, that is completely understandable. I am sick and tired of looking for something in Google because I want an answer and have to sift through a dozen websites hawking half a page worth of ad-sense ads or something other that what I am looking for.

      One of the worst offenders are the enormous volume of directories for products and services. You look for something then have to look again when you get to a directory.

      I understand the work that is affiliate programs because I belong to some but currently they are ancillary to my blog. There is a lot of trash out there that really needs some pruning.

      While I am on the subject of trash, I've viewed some of the articles and webpages that have stolen my articles without attribution (thankfully) that were clearly machine rewrites and they need to be trashed. I am sure I am not the only one in this forum with this problem.

      Thanks for the post PCdoc.
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  • Profile picture of the author tpw
    Don't worry about Google.

    Build your site for your customers, and if you do well, Google will love you anyway.
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    • Profile picture of the author AnniePot
      Originally Posted by tpw View Post

      Don't worry about Google.

      Build your site for your customers, and if you do well, Google will love you anyway.
      Post of the day!!
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  • Profile picture of the author JSProjects
    I thought they've always done this...

    Of course they're not going to like a site with junk / dupe content, 3 Adsense blocks, and a bunch of affiliate banners.
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    You have to put yourself in your traffics shoes.

    Would you visit the site/page twice?

    If the answer is yes, keep doing what your doing.

    If the answer is no, find the closest McDonalds & submit an application.

    Also keep in mind that Google or any search engine is only a small percentage of traffic that is available on the internet.

    Take this forum for example, If all I cared about was selling IM products, I would advertise here on this forum & any related forums in the same niche (IM).

    I'm in the hobby niche for most of my own sites, I get 50% of my very targeted traffic from related forums that I don't own.

    Diversify or pay the price later...
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    • Profile picture of the author tpw
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      You have to put yourself in your traffics shoes.

      Would you visit the site/page twice?

      If the answer is yes, keep doing what your doing.

      If the answer is no, find the closest McDonalds & submit an application.

      Also keep in mind that Google or any search engine is only a small percentage of traffic that is available on the internet.

      Take this forum for example, If all I cared about was selling IM products, I would advertise here on this forum & any related forums in the same niche (IM).

      I'm in the hobby niche for most of my own sites, I get 50% of my very targeted traffic from related forums that I don't own.

      Diversify or pay the price later...

      You nailed it here.
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  • Profile picture of the author bluepromote
    Yes, she is really referring to the "Panda Update." It comes down to building UNIQUE sites that provide value. Yes, you can still have Adsense and banner ads, etc BUT you must provide value in terms of unique high quality articles. Video on the site helps too. There are still tons of crap websites out there that provide no value that were built years ago. Those are the sites she is banning.
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  • Profile picture of the author Fun to Write
    I think this is great news since I always build my sites with real people in mind. Seems Google is serious about cleaning up the junk, and is using human editors to help them determine what site pages really suck.

    Take site building seriously folks.
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  • Profile picture of the author timpears
    Originally Posted by pcdoctor View Post

    She tells me that Google is doing away with pages with a lot of spam, clutter, and low quality articles. She removes pages with a lot of hyperlinks, PPC ads, and overall spam. If the page isn't a high quality page with useful information, it gets knocked back.
    This isn't real new as I have heard these things for the past month or two. My problem with it is that it is so subjective. What one may consider high quality, and fulfills their needs, maybe low quality to another person. But Google is the final determination in this case. And what is to say that they will speak for the person doing the searching.

    But it is their search engine, so they are going to make the rules.
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  • There are many sites that uses the spamming method to manufacture links so that the search engines will rank them, now its a different story. I think Google is also now hunting sites that builds too many profile backlinks, or sites having links on those so called "spam to death" sites.
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  • Profile picture of the author tamimabraham
    If Google really doing this, absolutely it is a great news. But don't head out, Google also doing business by playing monopoly.
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    • Profile picture of the author tpw
      Originally Posted by tamimabraham View Post

      Google also doing business by playing monopoly.

      mo·nop·o·ly
         [muh-nop-uh-lee] Show IPA
      noun, plural -lies.
      1.
      exclusive control of a commodity or service in a particular market, or a control that makes possible the manipulation of prices. Compare duopoly, oligopoly.
      2.
      an exclusive privilege to carry on a business, traffic, or service, granted by a government.
      3.
      the exclusive possession or control of something.
      4.
      something that is the subject of such control, as a commodity or service.
      5.
      a company or group that has such control.


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      With Bing, Yahoo and at least 48 other search engines out there, how exactly does Google have a "monopoly"???
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  • Profile picture of the author clever7
    Sometimes I think that what is happening is good, other times it doesn't seem to be so good. The Google algorithm changes had a tremendous impact on what is going on online.

    I agree that there are many other search engines and we don’t totally depend on Google, but it is a very important and strong search engine.





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  • Profile picture of the author dsouravs
    So she didn't leaked any secrets....
    All she said is known by me from 3 yrs. ago.
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  • Profile picture of the author hanandaner
    makes sense.. but with this it is clearly evident that google is trying to show case its monopoly.. i know Google is the BIG brother but then.. i dont support this
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  • Profile picture of the author Tande
    that can be useful, we need to get quality content from the search engine
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  • Profile picture of the author sanjon
    Build a website from a users point of view.
    If the user loves you, obviously Google will Love you too.
    Then again, pages with duplicate content, adsense, junk will never ever rank well on Google.
    I have a friend here in Italy who checks for relevant links [Both Internal and external] for Google and he always stresses the fact that Content should be well written and links should be relevant and single.
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  • Profile picture of the author rosetrees
    Originally Posted by pcdoctor View Post

    ................ What do you all think about this?
    Send me her email address - I'd love to send her a list of the crappy sites I find, stuffed full of unintelligible, spun articles
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  • Profile picture of the author David Maschke
    People who get into SEO are always whining.

    I never hear of list builders whining, at least nowhere near as much.

    Why is that?
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    • Profile picture of the author tpw
      Originally Posted by David Maschke View Post

      People who get into SEO are always whining.

      I never hear of list builders whining, at least nowhere near as much.

      Why is that?

      Because too many people have been convinced that "Google IS the ONLY source of traffic online!!" :rolleyes:

      And when the ONLY source of traffic ****s on their heads, they take it personal.
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    • Profile picture of the author JasonParker
      Originally Posted by David Maschke View Post

      People who get into SEO are always whining.

      I never hear of list builders whining, at least nowhere near as much.

      Why is that?
      You have a lot more control over your traffic when it comes to e-mail marketing.

      Don't get me wrong... I love SEO and Google traffic, but I depend on e-mail marketing.

      Google could just wake up one day and say they don't like my site, even if I've put my all into my content to satisfy website visitors.

      You never know who at Google is going to manually review your site. Maybe you get someone who likes your pages, maybe not... it's a crap shoot.
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  • Profile picture of the author nevrak
    Hi pcdoctor, it sounds like your friend are doing this manually?

    "...She removes pages with a lot of hyperlinks, PPC ads, and overall spam..."
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  • Profile picture of the author UMS
    Originally Posted by pcdoctor View Post

    She removes pages with a lot of hyperlinks, PPC ads, and overall spam. If the page isn't a high quality page with useful information, it gets knocked back.
    I sure hope she has some help. There must be a gazillion sites to review and thousands of new ones each day.

    She must be a very, very busy person.
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  • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
    Originally Posted by pcdoctor View Post

    She tells me that Google is doing their job
    Fixed that for you.
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  • Profile picture of the author RySpencer
    This has been going on for awhile, it is called the Panda update.
    If you read "Outsmarting Google" by Evyn Bailyn he explains a lot of this.
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  • Profile picture of the author winseosoft
    I saw too many bad sites in the past , bad content , ugly as hell and so on...
    So in a way I'm a little happy they are removing those sites and I also think that if you build a good one and optimise it well they won't touch it..
    Soon this "game" will be more elegant , based on quality and not quantity necesarily...
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  • Profile picture of the author Clint Faber
    LOL they have contently been doing this whats new?? It is good that they strive to get rid of junk it is just some of the other things that they do that iterates me at times.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jeff Williams
    Originally Posted by pcdoctor View Post

    Google is doing away with pages with a lot of spam, clutter, and low quality articles.
    Does this include Yahoo Sports?
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  • Profile picture of the author kindsvater
    Originally Posted by pcdoctor View Post

    She removes pages with a lot of hyperlinks, PPC ads, and overall spam.
    You may want to get some more specifics. She reviews pages and removes them from the SERPS? I doubt that.

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    • Profile picture of the author jryan
      I say do not worry about Google...many web surfers, information hounds, educated consumers, or many other who learn the web on their mobile devices are mostly using them for price comparisons while in the store.

      The bottom line is GOOGLE does not have the best results, they have the best marketing as they have the most information about its users.

      Google will always most likely be number 1 however the others will grow faster than Google in terms of search as it offers the better product...

      To me I want the better product as they bring me better quality of customer.
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