What's with the WF related names/images?

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Hi,

I was really confused yesterday when I started seeing people posting with names and sig icons that were forum related. I thought for a minute that Alan had recruited a bunch of people to post in varying support capacities around the forum.

Then I realised these were just new members who instead of using their own name were calling themselves forum related things and using WF images.

Things like "War Room" with an image of the War Room logo, and "WSOHelp".

Is it just me finding this confusing?

I already find it weird when people have random forum names and don't use their real name at all when posting.

This takes it to another level of confusion for me.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Taylor
    Andy,

    Originally Posted by Andyhenry View Post


    This takes it to another level of confusion for me.
    Don't worry... you're just going through the transition
    to the "Man of a certain age"... confusion becomes the
    norm. ;-)

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    • Profile picture of the author msudawgs56
      Originally Posted by John Taylor View Post

      Andy,



      Don't worry... you're just going through the transition
      to the "Man of a certain age"... confusion becomes the
      norm. ;-)

      John

      That''s funny right there!
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    • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
      Originally Posted by John Taylor View Post

      Andy,



      Don't worry... you're just going through the transition
      to the "Man of a certain age"... confusion becomes the
      norm. ;-)

      John
      Well you should know

      Good to see you around - even if it is to take a pot shot at me
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  • Profile picture of the author Steve Peters Benn
    Yeah - I'm not sure it should be allowed - its is confusing and conveys some sort of authority / endorsement...
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  • Profile picture of the author R Hagel
    Yes, what Steve said -- I agree that it conveys authority and endorsement where none exists.

    I think it was Kay who suggested a few days back that these WF-related names get automatically replaced with "NumbNuts".

    Anyway, you're not the only one with a raised eyebrow, Andy. Although you may be the only one who's confused.

    (I kid, I kid.)

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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by Andyhenry View Post

    Things like "War Room" with an image of the War Room logo, and "WSOHelp".

    Is it just me finding this confusing?
    No.

    You can be quite certain that if you and I find it confusing, newbies must find it horribly confusing.

    But, of course, that's why these people are doing it: they want to look and sound as if they have some "official capacity" around here, when in fact they don't at all. The word for that is "deceptive".

    The end result (as we've seen in at least one earlier instance of this) is that the forum suffers from anything negative/bad that they can do, because some people don't realise that they have nothing to do with the forum.

    The forum, in short, has nothing to gain and everything to lose. Maybe there are reasons of which I'm not aware, and it isn't my business anyway, but for myself, I can't begin to understand why Allen allows this.
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    • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

      they want to look and sound as if they have some "official capacity" around here, when in fact they don't at all. The word for that is "deceptive".
      There are a number of people who really are building their brands on something they do related to WSOs. They're not trying to be deceptive or fool anyone, and the idea that anyone thinks they are would probably surprise them.

      After all, a lot of people have other brands in their names or titles. WordPress, PHP, PayPal, Google, etc. We don't immediately assume they're from those companies. In fact, we assume they're not until they tell us they are, and then we check them out.

      It's much easier here, because the second they say "look, I'm an official representative of the forum..." half a dozen people will pop up and say "the hell you are" as the ban-hammer comes down from one of the REAL official representatives.

      And unless I miss my guess, once a person is permabanned, their username is gone forever and the problem goes with it.

      Plus, as the responsible people gain reputation and branch out, they will naturally and normally switch to using their real names. And there goes that problem, too, small as it is.
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      • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
        Originally Posted by CDarklock View Post

        There are a number of people who really are building their brands on something they do related to WSOs. They're not trying to be deceptive or fool anyone, and the idea that anyone thinks they are would probably surprise them.
        Even though some of them are using WF logos as their image?

        I've been here for quite a while and I was confused by it so I'm sure there will be newbies who think they're official forum representatives.

        We had this with the WP system and that's not represented in the forum at all.
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        • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
          Originally Posted by Andyhenry View Post

          Even though some of them are using WF logos as their image?
          I believe I was reasonably clear in saying that having "Warrior" or "WSO" in your forum username shouldn't be a problem because deceptive people will do more than that.

          Like, say, use a WF logo.

          And they'll probably do other things, too, like say "as an official Warrior Forum bla bla bla" or something. Which is already against the rules we already have, so down comes the banhammer.

          Ladders and nooses, you know?
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      • Profile picture of the author Alan Petersen
        It's a big no-no to use "Moderator", "Mod", "Admin" in your profile title. There was a bit of a brouhaha about that a few years ago because people were doing just that... so not sure why they can use "WSO Support", "WSO Review" etc.

        Caliban, you're correct about branding yourself as an expert with a third party product/service/site but there is a reason why you'll see WPExpert vs WordPress Expert because Wordpress came down on them like a ton of bricks. Even threatening to sue. I'm sure the same thing goes with Google, PayPal etc.

        But in the end the Warrior Forum/WSO is Allen's so it's up to him at the end. If he doesn't care it's a moot point what we think.
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  • Profile picture of the author Coby
    It seems to be a popular thing these days to run out and register a domain like "xxxwso.com" in an attempt to "clone" the few people who have done it successfully - but even those folks used their real name on the forum...

    My prediction is this time next year you will be able to snag up a bunch of expired domains that have "wso" in them
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    • Profile picture of the author Tina Golden
      I look at it this way - it's an easy way to screen those who are just looking to make a fast buck off the members here and who most likely base their entire business around WSOs.

      No, I realize that's not true in EVERY case, but for most of them it is.

      Perhaps they don't realize that while they may be suckering in newbies, they're throwing up a rather large red flag for those of us who've been around the block a few times?
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      • Profile picture of the author ExRat
        Hi Tina,

        Originally Posted by Tina Golden View Post

        I look at it this way - it's an easy way to screen those who are just looking to make a fast buck off the members here and who most likely base their entire business around WSOs.

        No, I realize that's not true in EVERY case, but for most of them it is.
        The ones that I find odd are those who review WSOs on their sites (and in the WSO threads) as affiliates but refuse to do negative reviews and are open about it - I don't get the logic.

        A quick historical check of their reviews finds them providing glowing testimonials in the first pages of those WSOs which go horribly wrong later on, once one person is brave enough to call them out in the thread feedback and say, 'this is a blatant copy of XYZ', or 'this is total crap', then the others come out and add, 'Yes, I agree, this is total crap.'

        Now, every time I see those reviewers leaving testimonials it actually makes me believe that the WSO is probably crap - their testimonial actually devalues the perceived value of the product, in my eyes. It's not entirely logical, but regardless, that's how it works for me. I'd sooner take a chance on a WSO with NO testimonials.

        It's the same as the 'WSO of the day' which turns out to be absolute junk - but of course it's 100% commission every single time. Hence, in my eyes, 'WSO of the day' means that it's 100% commission and has absolutely no bearing on the quality of the WSO.

        I would rather see reviews by others who have run WSOs themselves (hence they have some experience) but are not part of a mutually-beneficial-testimonial-giving-syndicate.

        Reviews by people who have recently appeared out of nowhere, never sell any products of their own, never contribute consistently in main discussion but have a WSO related domain tells me that their reviews are absolutely meaningless (except that they desire to earn commissions), especially when I see how many times they give glowing testimonials to WSOs which turn out to be crap.

        Originally Posted by Tina Golden View Post

        Perhaps they don't realize that while they may be suckering in newbies, they're throwing up a rather large red flag for those of us who've been around the block a few times?
        As with most marketers, they concentrate on a small percentage of the marketplace rather than trying to please everyone, which is a recipe for disaster. In this instance, they are happy to avoid those who have 'been around the block' and instead focus entirely on those who haven't.

        They do realise that it throws up a red flag to a certain percentage but they care not. The money is in the newb.

        ........

        As for those helping people with choosing WSOs, I guess that there's not too much intrinsically wrong with it.

        But I find it kind of ironic that those who seek this help are simply delaying the inevitable - they are looking to buy WSOs which will help them in business.

        Probably the most important personal skill required to even exist in business for more than a brief period is the development of critical thinking skills.

        Yet when it comes to buying products in order to assist in development/business, instead of developing those skills they 'outsource' this to someone else, thus avoiding the improvement of the one skill that they really need to survive and by doing so are signalling that they're not willing to take the responsibility that comes with making decisions about personal investment of time and resources.

        The wacky world of IM...:rolleyes:
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        • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
          Can I change my name to Warrior Forum poster boy? :confused:

          J/K.

          Haven't noticed this myself but at my age, I'm not very observant anymore.

          Must be too many Friday Night Magics.

          Hey, I came in 7th last night. Not too bad for a G/W Humans deck.

          Anyway, carry on. Nothing to see here.
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          • Profile picture of the author Joshua Rigley
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            Originally Posted by Tina Golden View Post

            I look at it this way - it's an easy way to screen those who are just looking to make a fast buck off the members here and who most likely base their entire business around WSOs.
            I got the first two letters of those two words mixed up at first, and had a substantial "WTF?" moment.

            Originally Posted by ExRat View Post

            As with most marketers, they concentrate on a small percentage of the marketplace rather than trying to please everyone, which is a recipe for disaster. In this instance, they are happy to avoid those who have 'been around the block' and instead focus entirely on those who haven't.

            They do realise that it throws up a red flag to a certain percentage but they care not. The money is in the newb.
            I gotta disagree with you there Roger. As Paul often says, "even Dog can't please everyone". Although there is money to be had in appealing to the mass market, most of us ethically pursue niche markets. And yes, for some of us, that includes newbie IMers. I know I'm just being nit-picky about this, but I wanted to point that out.



            Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

            Can I change my name to Warrior Forum poster boy? :confused:

            J/K.
            Go right ahead, but please don't change your avatar to match your username. I have enough troubled memories as it is without a pic of you in a speedo haunting my dreams.

            As for the "War Room" username, I thought it was brilliant. They should have used an avatar of a morbidly obese person, with a title that said, "I'm stuffed...just can't stop eating junk threads".

            Okie, Imma stop before someone bans me for my cheek.
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  • Profile picture of the author Main Warrior Forum
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    It makes no sense why anyone would do such a thing

    J/K

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    • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
      Haha, Michael!

      Excellent point!

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    • Profile picture of the author Bill Farnham
      Originally Posted by Main Warrior Forum View Post

      It makes no sense why anyone would do such a thing

      J/K

      Have a Great Day!
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      um, I mean ~MWF~
      Michael.

      I smell a ban coming on. It's deja vu all over again...


      But, of course, that's why these people are doing it: they want to look and sound as if they have some "official capacity" around here, when in fact they don't at all. The word for that is "deceptive".
      Alexa,

      I think the word you're looking for is "pathetic".

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  • Profile picture of the author SteveDolan
    It is confusing. I think there are 2 things happening here. There are those who are looking to be deceptive and profit from it in some way and those who are genuinely trying to 'brand' themselves.

    I have a feeling that over time we'll be able to see who's who. Personally I'm happy to use my real name, keeps it simple and allows people to judge me for who I am with no pre-conceptions.
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    • Profile picture of the author Frank Donovan
      Caliban,

      Originally Posted by CDarklock View Post

      After all, a lot of people have other brands in their names or titles. WordPress, PHP, PayPal, Google, etc. We don't immediately assume they're from those companies. In fact, we assume they're not until they tell us they are, and then we check them out.
      That's not quite the same thing. If a non PayPal employee were to post in the official PayPal forum as "PPsupport" or similar (if so allowed) that would be just as likely to confuse those members.

      People using derivations of the WF name or related services as a user name and posting advice in threads on the Warrior Forum are presumably hoping to attain some reflected authority with newer members.

      If that advice proves to be false or misleading, rather than merely self-serving, it may have more harmful repercussions (until they eventually get called out ).


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      • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
        Originally Posted by Frank Donovan View Post

        If that advice proves to be false or misleading, rather than merely self-serving, it may have more harmful repercussions (until they eventually get called out ).
        Plenty of people tell me outright that someone with as many posts as I have is clearly an authority.

        Crap, really? You pay more attention to what I say because I have no life and sit around posting on a forum all day? You sad, sad person. I mean, geez, that's almost as sad as having no life and sitting around posting on a forum all day.

        There's this old saying that a lot of people are walking around holding an umbilical cord and looking for someplace to plug it in. And a lot of people have noticed that, and they start advertising "plug in your umbilical cord here."

        But here's the thing.

        If they need to false-flag with their username to advertise that, they're too incompetent to do much damage.

        Anyone really competent at being the place to plug in the umbilical, especially if they're running it the wrong way, understands that false-flagging raises hackles and can get them stopped before they get started. So only two kinds of people do it.

        1. Innocent, honest people who literally never thought about how you might do damage this way.

        2. Completely incompetent scammers who will be caught in short order regardless.

        I don't think group 2 is large enough or dangerous enough to stomp on group 1. Baby and bathwater, you know? I like innocent, honest people. I think we should protect and nurture them.

        Of course, standard disclaimer, this is my two cents. I like it, because it's mine, but it's still just two cents. And neither Allen nor anyone else with authority here gives a flying leap about two cents.
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  • Profile picture of the author tpw
    Originally Posted by Andyhenry View Post

    Then I realised these were just new members who instead of using their own name were calling themselves forum related things and using WF images.

    Things like "War Room" with an image of the War Room logo, and "WSOHelp".

    Desperately Seeking Credibility... :rolleyes:

    I am sure you have seen the type in the real world...

    Ne'er do wells, who try to inflate their credibility by claiming a relationship with someone respectable...
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  • Profile picture of the author Ken Strong
    If anyone feels a certain username is confusing or deceptive, feel free to report it to the mods and let them take a look at it. Some of these people are now gone (like "War Room" using the forum logo). It's sort of taken on a case-by-case basis. I don't care for the trend personally.
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    • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
      Caliban,
      And unless I miss my guess, once a person is permabanned, their username is gone forever and the problem goes with it.
      You are correct. Unless we delete the whole account, a username can only be used once.

      We have considered the notion of requiring anyone with the acronym WSO in their username to sacrifice one line of their signature for a disclaimer stating that they are not in any way affiliated with or endorsed by the forum.

      We could just make them all change their usernames, but some of them are legit members with enough standing that it might not be as beneficial as it seems up front.
      And they'll probably do other things, too, like say "as an official Warrior Forum bla bla bla" or something. Which is already against the rules we already have, so down comes the banhammer.
      Interestingly, four of the six "senior" moderators use their own names. One (Thomas) uses his own company name, which has nothing to do with the WF. None of us use anything that looks like an official stamp on our profiles anywhere that I can recall, except Allen. "Admin" is an appropriate title for him, I think. And he has his name under that.

      A few of the mods in sub-forums use "Moderator" in the lines under their names, IIRC, but that's a good idea. If someone does that and isn't a mod, they'll get "corrected" quickly.

      I agree that there are people who do this innocently. I'm not at all sure they're the majority, though. You might not see just how many of them have popped up lately.


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      • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
        Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

        I agree that there are people who do this innocently. I'm not at all sure they're the majority, though.
        I'm pretty sure they're not, but I'm also pretty sure that the non-innocent ones aren't going to last long. Self-repairing problem.

        Kind of like post counts: making 50 posts doesn't actually mean anything except that you've managed to post 50 things that weren't stupid enough to get deleted or nasty enough to get you banned. But if this is difficult for you, then you shouldn't be allowed to do certain things. It's not the lack of posts that's the problem; it's the lack of proof that you can post halfway intelligently.

        When someone wants to send PMs, and discovers they can't do so until they make 50 posts, their posts look amazingly like their PMs are going to look. If those posts are spammy and retarded, they would just send spammy and retarded PMs, so they shouldn't be allowed to send PMs until they learn how to make posts that aren't spammy and retarded. Fifty of those is reasonable evidence that they "get it" and will not send spammy and retarded PMs.

        I look at Warrior-related usernames the same way I do low post counts. The jury's out. Once the post count has three digits, SOMEONE on the forum has got a pretty good idea who this person is and is allowing them to stay, so the username probably isn't meant to be scammy or spammy.

        I've also noticed that a lot of people come in here thinking that WSO is just our private little slang term, so where they would go somewhere else and say "I have made an IM infoproduct," they come here and say "I have made a WSO." Which leads me to wonder something.

        In some communities, there is a strong bias toward what they call "scene-related" usernames, which include a slang term specific to the community. Something "normal" people wouldn't use as their name, to prove they're really part of the community. A signaling device, in economics parlance.

        There is very real prejudice in some forums against people who don't use such a device. So people coming here from certain other communities might be likely to think they SHOULD have some form of war, warrior, or WSO reference in their username or they can't "really" be part of the gang.

        I'm fascinated by this stuff. When I first got online, it was always "first name" so I was "Caliban." Later it started being "first initial, last name" so I was "CDarklock" everywhere. Then we had the "full name" craze where I'd be expected to use "Caliban Darklock." Then the "first name, birth year" custom where people would expect "Caliban69." It happens in cycles and trends which are often localised and have upsurges here and there.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mr Bill
    I guess I better weigh in.

    I saw a need to help people who buy WSOs. I decided to start a busines helping them so I asked permission from WF to use the term "WSO" in my domain. They said "Sure". I asked if the username WSOHelp was a problem they said "nope". I also asked if I could "use" red and black because I WANTED to tie in to this place and I'm proud of it and that was also fine with them as long as I do not use the logo and that I clearly identify that I have no affiliate with WF on my site. I looked around when deciding on my username and saw that lots of people were using brands as usernames and not everyone was using their real names so I didn't think it would be a problem - and it's not.

    I'm sorry if it confuses you, I have it clearly stated in the footer of my site that I am not affiliate with WF. I am as open and transparent as I can be and I'm not trying to decieve anyone nor am I trying to "desperately seek credibility"...sigh. I am helping in the forum and also helping WSO buyers.

    That's what's with my WF related name.
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    • Profile picture of the author Frank Donovan
      Originally Posted by WSOHelp View Post

      ... I am helping in the forum and also helping WSO buyers.
      As countless members have been doing for years - without charging.

      Bill, you've been a member here since June this year and most of us don't know you; but as far as one can tell, you seem to be a genuine, stand up guy. The thing is, this forum instills a strong sense of loyalty in its membership which makes us feel protective against the potential misuse of the WF name or reputation.

      Fair play to you if you sought and obtained permission before starting your business - I'm sure nobody wants to stifle enterprise. But it's only natural that any new arrival to the forum who sets himself up as an instant authority is going to arouse a degree of suspicion among the established members.

      Factor in the use of a WF-themed user name and you can probably understand why some of those members might appear a little extra sensitive.


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  • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
    Bill,

    If you got permission from Allen, you aren't going to get any grief over the username.


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    • Profile picture of the author Mr Bill
      Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

      ...We have considered the notion of requiring anyone with the acronym WSO in their username to sacrifice one line of their signature for a disclaimer stating that they are not in any way affiliated with or endorsed by the forum.

      Bill, If you got permission from Allen, you aren't going to get any grief over the username.

      Paul
      Actually, Paul, that's not a bad idea. I don't mind sacrificing a line in my sig to make it clear (added). Had to shuffle a few things around but I'm ok with it if you are. I checked with Thomas who had to check and then got back to me with two thumbs up.
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      • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
        Bill,
        Actually, Paul, that's not a bad idea. I don't mind sacrificing a line in my sig to make it clear (added). Had to shuffle a few things around but I'm ok with it if you are. I checked with Thomas who had to check and then got back to me with two thumbs up.
        Sensible and responsible behavior? What are you trying to do, dude? Give the mods a collective heart attack?

        Thank you.


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  • Profile picture of the author Mr Bill
    Maybe it'll start a trend
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  • Profile picture of the author DianaHeuser
    I need to make a public apology to a friend of mine Bill (WSOHelp). I jumped into this thread because Michael Mayo made me laugh with his user name change. I never thought of the effect it would have on Bill. I have deleted my post in the meantime.

    Bill is one of the people on this forum that has been nothing but supportive and helpful and I am really sorry Bill.

    A very contrite Di.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mr Bill
    I appreciate your support Di. If I knew there was a culture of "real names only" I would have used it (Bill Stacy). I use to run a big forum that worked with "real names only" and I appreciate the benefit of that but with so many branded user names in this marketing forum I didn't think it would matter as long as I was useful, contributed and kept my nose clean. I'm sure an extra teaspoon of sugar in tomorrow morning's coffee will have everyone in a good mood again.
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  • Profile picture of the author Damielle
    Haven't seen this myself, but I can see why it would be confusing.

    I'm pretty sure this will be sorted out soon, and if their intentions are to deceive then a ban will be quick in coming.

    The great thing about the forum is that you can really checkout people based on their number of posts etc.
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  • Profile picture of the author kaper7
    I dont see anything wrong with choosing a username you want. It is not against the rules. Always do your due dilligence if you feel something is not right about a user and their products.

    We are all expected to provide value to this forum and in return we can promote through a sig file. I personally don't buy or re-act because of a username. I investigate if you will the product and the marketer before a decision is made.
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    • Profile picture of the author ExRat
      Hi kaper7,

      Originally Posted by kaper7 View Post

      I dont see anything wrong with choosing a username you want. It is not against the rules.
      I was thinking of changing from ExRat to Internet Business Universe
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      • Profile picture of the author Tina Golden
        Originally Posted by ExRat View Post

        Hi Tina,
        They do realise that it throws up a red flag to a certain percentage but they care not. The money is in the newb.
        I agree wholeheartedly with everything in your post, Roger, except this one statement.

        That is what these people think but in reality, it should say that "the SHORT TERM money is in the newb", because the REAL money is in the people who are in it for the long haul and are building real businesses.

        Newbies mostly buy low priced "easy button" products over and over again because they're looking for their pot of gold. Some of these end up getting it and sticking for the long haul; most do not.

        Long termers, on the other hand, know that you have to INVEST in their businesses. These people, for the most part, are the ones buying the higher end products and tools that they know they can use to make their lives easier, more productive and/or increase their revenues.

        I don't know about anyone else, but I know which type I'd rather market to.

        Originally Posted by WSOHelp View Post

        I appreciate your support Di. If I knew there was a culture of "real names only" I would have used it (Bill Stacy). I use to run a big forum that worked with "real names only" and I appreciate the benefit of that but with so many branded user names in this marketing forum I didn't think it would matter as long as I was useful, contributed and kept my nose clean. I'm sure an extra teaspoon of sugar in tomorrow morning's coffee will have everyone in a good mood again.
        Bill, if you put in a ticket with the Help Desk, Thomas will switch your username to your real name. I was here for three years under my company name when I was finally convinced that there was a "Golden" opportunity for branding my own name.

        You were the exception, by the way, and why I put "most" in my response and not all. Honestly, you are the only exception that I've found that I can recall at this time.
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          Hi Tina,

          I agree with everything you say there.

          Allow me to adjust my own comment (italics), in order to add a little clarity, as I was being mildly cryptic above -

          In this instance, they are happy to avoid those who have 'been around the block' and instead focus entirely on those who haven't - for a reason.

          They do realise that it throws up a red flag to a certain percentage but they care not. The money is only in the newb - for them.
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          • Profile picture of the author asidewalk
            Originally Posted by Damielle View Post

            Haven't seen this myself, but I can see why it would be confusing.

            I'm pretty sure this will be sorted out soon, and if their intentions are to deceive then a ban will be quick in coming.

            The great thing about the forum is that you can really checkout people based on their number of posts etc.
            With most forums, you can tell by post count, but you always need to take that with a grain of salt. Some people sit on the forum night and day and reply to posts. They might not even be meaningful posts... just useless dribble, but their count goes up.

            On this forum especially, I try to gauge the person by their involvement with whatever thread I'm reading. Remember this line from the rules thread: "The fact that you're new doesn't mean you don't know a lot about marketing." ... so They might have just found the forum, but be a marketing guru.

            (Um, myself excluded . Years of technical web development experience, but only months of IM lol)

            And lets be honest, am I the only person who laughs when reading a WSO review of someone with thousands of post counts go "I'd never heard of that before, buy____" etc ? Point being that you can't use post count as an indicator alone.

            Originally Posted by kaper7 View Post

            I dont see anything wrong with choosing a username you want. It is not against the rules. Always do your due dilligence if you feel something is not right about a user and their products.

            We are all expected to provide value to this forum and in return we can promote through a sig file. I personally don't buy or re-act because of a username. I investigate if you will the product and the marketer before a decision is made.
            Exactly. I investigate the product, marketer, and read the entire thread before I purchase anything (here and elsewhere), or act on the advice they're giving. "Want instant traffic? Rob a bank wearing your domain name on a shirt"

            For the forum names, even from a marketing perspective, I'm not keen on using real names. Too many crazy people on the internet. I'm waiting for the WSO "Find Fellow Marketers' phone numbers through google!" headline...

            For the people using WF or WSO in the names, I think you'll be able to weed them out and figure out what they're really about by seeing how they interact with other members. I do like the disclaimer line idea though.

            Bill is a good guy, and its great that he went through the proper channels to get his name approved, and even adopted the disclaimer without issue. Gotta respect that
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Mayo
    I'm just trying to figure out why the "Main Warrior Forum" member above
    isn't a "War Room Member" Yet???

    It kinda kills his/her trust factor a little...Can you say "Red Flag"? :p

    Have a Great Day!
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    • Profile picture of the author John Taylor
      Michael,

      Originally Posted by Michael Mayo View Post

      I'm just trying to figure out why the "Main Warrior Forum" member above
      isn't a "War Room Member" Yet???
      I would have thought "Main Warrior Forum" is kinda restricted
      to the main warrior forum with a username like that. ;-)

      John
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      • Profile picture of the author Michael Mayo
        Originally Posted by John Taylor View Post

        Michael,



        I would have thought "Main Warrior Forum" is kinda restricted
        to the main warrior forum with a username like that. ;-)

        John
        Guess you have a good point.

        Be right back...lol
        J/K

        Have a Great Day!
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  • But it can be misconstrued - I know when I saw it, I thought it was a mod...

    Those logos carry authority, like a badge - using it improperly is akin to impersonating an officer...unless given authority to do so.

    Or wearing a uniform with medals and rank not earned...

    People might take more credence in what they say...

    just my 2c
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