Hubpages vs Ezinearticle site?

I used to use HubPages (as part of my backlinking strategy) but no longer do so, now.

I always submit all my articles to EZA (after publishing them on my own sites first, of course, and having them as widely syndicated as possible to other relevant sites in my niches ... EZA is the last place I submit them).

http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...eza-first.html

I wouldn't want to get traffic from EZA. That would be incredibly wasteful. If you have a 25% click-through rate from an article at EZA, that means you're losing 75% of your traffic, that way. What you ought to want is to have the potential customer traffic coming to your own site (100% arrival at your site, that way) rather than to EZA (25%/30% arrival at your site, that way?). Clearly, you're far better off if your traffic doesn't get diverted to an article directory from which only a small proportion reaches you!

Article directories aren't there for that purpose, anyway - it isn't a sensible or productive way to use them.

You need people looking in Google to find your site's copy of the article, not the EZA copy. The EZA copy is there (obviously enough) for Ezine publishers looking for Ezine Articles to re-publish. That's why EZA exists and the purpose it fulfils.

Fortunately, this is easily done, these days: article directories have been so devalued by Google that it's super-easy to outrank them. (As long as you don't give article directories "new"/"unique" content without first publishing it yourself! ).

And the problems with HubPages are pretty fully described in all the threads like this one.

In short, it's better to build up your business than other people's.

I think there both the same.

I use them both for SEO. Yes you will get a little bit of traffic from the actual articles you put on them sites but the main traffic comes from actually ranking your sites pages in the search engines and the links from them articles help towards that goal, which site is better? I think both sites are looked at the same in googles eyes.

For ranking just an article in the search engines and for your site its got to be ezine articles.

Lee

No, it's not nearly as simple as that.

Nobody who understands article marketing wants to get their potential customer traffic from Ezine Articles - that would be terribly counterproductive, and isn't what article directories exist for at all: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ries-work.html

Your question's complicated, because you're not distinguishing between article directories and other kinds of website.

Some may have some SEO value, but it seems really minimal compared with what it used to be. These two links may be helpful for you, though (one of them is mostly about Blogspot but the principles discussed in the thread are exactly the same as for HubPages) ...

http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post5551278

http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...y-website.html

Their home pages may have PR6, but your pages there (and mine) are PR0, just as they would be on our own sites. Your articles (and mine) aren't published on their home pages!

Websites don't "have page rank": only pages have page rank.

Don't imagine that you're getting a PR6 backlink every time you submit an article to Ezine Articles ... you're getting a PR0 one. Article directories aren't there for backlinks - that's not their purpose at all: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ries-work.html

The articles you get in there should not be posted in your website as they would be considered duplicate content! Use unique articles for each and channelize your Ezinearticles to your website.

For the second question, again, avoid duplicate content, Google will penalize it.

Nonsense. This will help you, Brunom (and someone needs to, because at the moment you have a huge misunderstanding about what "duplicate content" means): Article Marketers – Lay the Duplicate Content Myth To Rest Once and For All - Internet Marketing and Publishing

A complete waste of time, effort and energy. (Something we'd love all our competitors to do, I suppose!). There's no point in submitting to an article directory any articles you haven't already published and had indexed on your own site first. Why give away the long-term SEO benefit of the gradual accumulation of all those initial indexation-rights and build someone else's business rather than your own? People who do enough of this are the ones who end up starting threads here with titles like "Help! My Site Can't Even Outrank A Poxy Article Directory". And they never quite appreciate that they did it to themselves. :p

This post will help you a lot, Brunom: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post5068872

And if you take a look through this much longer thread, in it you'll find a whole succession of professional article marketers, making their livings that way, explaining at great length and in great detail all their shared reasons for not submitting unique content to Ezine Articles or to any other article directory.

Apart from these two little matters, you mean?:- :p

(i) It isn't duplicate content (it's syndicated content);

(ii) Google has explained openly and repeatedly on many different sites, blogs and videos that they will not penalize your site for duplicate content anyway.

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Welcome to the Forum, Wordy Maven (wordy mavens are always welcome, and not only by me, I know) ...

Looks like you're in very good hands here - and good luck with those dowloads (not normally a problem, I think?).

My answers may be redundant by now ... but ...

Well, they get indexed automatically. Google goes through a "learning curve" with new sites, and the more regularly you update them, the more frequently its little spiders drop in for a crawl-around.

It can be frustratingly slow when a site's very new, but it rectifies itself.

The three things you can do are:-

(i) Wait patiently (I've always found this is as good as anything);

(ii) Build a backlink or two to your new content/page/site somewhere that gets indexed very quickly and regularly (such as the "Warrior Forum" - in a sig-file, perhaps?!). Google will find the backlink, realise that the page it links to hasn't yet been indexed, and correct that (but not always immediately!);

(iii) You can submit it to Google, formally, on a page they have for the purpose. I've never found this helps. I've also read, more recently, in a couple of textbooks that (for reasons not explained, and I don't pretend to understand them, myself) Google "prefers" to "find things for itself" rather than "being formally notified". (I haven't got the link to that Google page but Joe will probably have it, if you really want it, and a picture to illustrate it, too, because he has everything, I tell you ...).

How do you know it's been "indexed", I think you meant? Nothing sophisticated, flamboyant or clever, here: I just type a little chunk of text from it, between "inverted commas" into Google, and if it shows up in the results, it's been indexed.

As an indication of how long it takes: all my sites are between 1 and 4 years old, I update each site with fresh content (an article) three times a month only, and the fresh content is almost always indexed within 24 hours. But much more slowly when the site's new: as they say in Scotland "it does'na pay ty rush these things ..." (or something like that).

What seems to the the problem? Hundreds of people have downloaded it, and you're the first to say you've had any problems.