Need advice on finding clickbank affiliates.

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Just created my own account, fly on the wall book. My sales page and delivery of the book is all taken care of. It's been on clickbank almost a week now, but no sales, checking google, it seems I have only a few people promoting the book.
I'm at a bit of a loose end. It's seems you can't get interest without sales, yet I know I have a great product.

Any advise would be warmly welcome.

Adrian
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  • Profile picture of the author webapex
    Have you noticed the number of products with 0 gravity, that is no recent sales.

    Some offer some sort of incentive or a higher payout % to get the ball rolling.

    Clickbank has a decent primer on the subject:
    Finding Affiliates to Promote Your Product | ClickBank Blog

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    There's a guy who works for a week solid, at getting your 100 affiliates at the cost of $400 (them don't look like book seller figures)

    Clickbank Affiliate Recruitment| Recruiting Service by AffiliateBuddy.net
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  • Profile picture of the author ppetri
    If you are serious about getting sales from affiliates, the first thing you need to have is statistical data like conversion rates. You need to be aware of all sales aspects first, including churn (refunds). A Clickbank affiliate or any affiliate isn't going to waste their time selling something that has no history and sales statistics. If you can't provide them with all the stats, you might as well sell it yourself. Affiliates want to make money. they are making only 50-70% of the profits so they need to know everything, including an estimated ROI (return on investment) they may make selling your product. They will not sell something that they can't make a decent profit on. I say a minimum of 20-30% ROI. But the higher the better. Something that also helps is a give-a-way, for the highest paying affiliates. Something I tell my clients is give the affiliate everything they need, but don't give away the farm. Keep as much for yourself as possible for you and the super affiliates. It is they that deserve the icing on the cake.

    If you do not have sales data and refund history you need to begin testing now by setting up a test campaign with PPC (Pay Per Click). If you seriously think that your product is great, back it up by spending a couple hundred bucks to get some real data. Once you do that AND get real life statistics to prove it is a worthy product, then follow these steps below, I hope it helps.

    You have a great product? Check
    You Have a great converting Sales Page? Check
    You have low returns? Check
    You have all the sales details for Affiliate interaction? Check

    Once you have all that in place, then it's time to find affiliates. Either find an affiliate manager who has experience in your niche (but most will not waist their time on a $20 eBook) or Go to places like jv-network.com and signup (it's free). See what all the pros are doing and follow suite. All of them write a JV letter informing everyone on the site about the opportunity and give contact info out, and most of the time an affiliate website link is in the letter as well. You must pay to post your opportunity but it is worth it. But don't waist your time until you understand what the pros are saying in their offers. This is only the start. You have much to learn my young padawan!

    Hint-Hint: Real,long term affiliate relationships, are created by real communication by phone and email. Hand Shake relationships are the only way to go. Don't wait on Clickbank and PDC to do the hard work for you. - Pete
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  • Profile picture of the author Virtual Force
    What is the product and how your are promoting it? If you are not promoting it I will refer you to promote it on facebook.
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    • Profile picture of the author suresolutions
      Originally Posted by Virtual Force View Post

      What is the product and how your are promoting it? If you are not promoting it I will refer you to promote it on facebook.
      How do I use Facebook to help?
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  • Profile picture of the author ChadOath
    Well first, you need to drive your own sales to it and see how it performs. That will also make it rise in the marketplace a little bit, so hopefully a few people can take notice.

    If I were you, I'd set up separate affiliate accounts for each traffic source you use, and promote your product through them. That will also help raise your gravity a little and is completely allowable within the Clickbank TOS.

    You can't expect people to hop on board when you haven't yet hopped on board yourself.
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    • Profile picture of the author suresolutions
      Some great advice there, thanks. I'm pretty confident in the product an sales page. Also includes three bonuses. It my account of making money good money on eBay step by step. The product is $47 and offering 75 percent commission. I'm struggling to get traffic to the site to test my conversion rate, feels like a catch 22.

      How do I use facebook to get traffic?
      Any more advice will be great.

      Adrian.
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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        Originally Posted by suresolutions View Post

        Some great advice there, thanks. I'm pretty confident in the product an sales page.
        Adrian, please don't take this personally, but that sales page of which you're "pretty confident" would benefit from a lot of changes: even just running a spellcheck on it would improve it quite a bit! I'm not trying to "have a go at you" at all - simply to draw to your attention that quite apart from all the other helpful comments above, you have a lot of work to do on the copy and its presentation, before showing it to any serious affiliates.
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  • Profile picture of the author CoachMikeH
    Use video marketing and send them to your clickbank affiliate page to sign up to promote your product. Tell them that they can make money promoting your CB product. Video marketing is the way to go and becoming a dominant force on the Internet.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chri5123
    Originally Posted by suresolutions View Post

    Just created my own account, fly on the wall book. My sales page and delivery of the book is all taken care of. It's been on clickbank almost a week now, but no sales, checking google, it seems I have only a few people promoting the book.
    I'm at a bit of a loose end. It's seems you can't get interest without sales, yet I know I have a great product.

    Any advise would be warmly welcome.

    Adrian
    It's all a learning experience!

    As you said:

    Originally Posted by suresolutions View Post

    It's seems you can't get interest without sales, yet I know I have a great product.
    This is spot on ^

    Ask yourself this:

    "Why would affiliates promote a product that is not selling?"

    Don't mean this to come across as harsh but the truth is that if you have a GREAT product that is awesome!

    However the MAIN thing that top affiliates will look for is conversion rates and if your page is not converting they will not promote it...

    I KNOW that testing is a pain and that is why 90% product owners launch a product on CB, don't test and then when they don't get affiliates they are surprised!

    My advice:

    Be the other 10%!

    Chris
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  • Profile picture of the author ShawnSells
    Getting affiliates on clickbank is not such an automatic or easy task. Its' very competitive, and you'd be surprised what product vendors are doing to attract affiliates.
    I'm an affiliate and have received emails with big bonuses promised to promote the product more aggressively, and many sellers are giving 75% commissions to prospective affiliates.
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  • Profile picture of the author DMWood
    There are many ways to attract affiliates:
    1. A great Clickbank listing
    This is what your potential affiliates see when looking through the marketplace on Clickbank.

    2. Affiliate Resource Page
    When affiliates visit your sales page many will try to find a resource page so that they can get help in promoting your product, I suggest you offer articles, reviews, autoresponder sequences and banners, at least.

    3. Clickbank Marketing
    You can place ads on clickbank, this shows your affiliate program to potential affiliates.

    4. Ask your friends and contacts

    5. Contact small blogger in your niche
    If you offer a small blogger a review copy of your book they will often read it, if they like it they will probably review it.

    Hope this helps, good luck!
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    • Profile picture of the author shawoon98
      Originally Posted by DMWood View Post

      There are many ways to attract affiliates:
      1. A great Clickbank listing
      This is what your potential affiliates see when looking through the marketplace on Clickbank.

      2. Affiliate Resource Page
      When affiliates visit your sales page many will try to find a resource page so that they can get help in promoting your product, I suggest you offer articles, reviews, autoresponder sequences and banners, at least.

      3. Clickbank Marketing
      You can place ads on clickbank, this shows your affiliate program to potential affiliates.

      4. Ask your friends and contacts

      5. Contact small blogger in your niche
      If you offer a small blogger a review copy of your book they will often read it, if they like it they will probably review it.

      Hope this helps, good luck!
      Great points. Thanks DM.
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  • Profile picture of the author Manoj V
    "yet I know I have a great product"

    If you have great product you could look for a joint venture partnership here on the forum. If your product is related to IM you could consider releasing it as a WSO.

    CB is indeed very competitive. Tenured marketers carry out pre-launch activities of their products and invest in exposure for their forthcoming products months in advance. Reach out to prospective affiliates and give them review copies. Once they are impressed half your work is done. Offer a large commission which you should peg at 75% to encourage affiliates.
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  • Profile picture of the author suresolutions
    Thanks for all the great advice guys. I managed to get a very high ranking eBay advice website to send the product out via his news letter, at a comprimise of halving my price but only 50% commission, It worked great 25% conversion rate and at the moment no refunds, and the bonus of making more money per sale. Only been 3 days though. The problem now is, my gravity only went up to 1%, because most of the sales were in a 24hr period. One weird thing is I'm now getting sales with no hop link commission, how is this possible, I've done no seo.

    Any advice for the next step would be great.

    Adrian
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by suresolutions View Post

      Only been 3 days though. The problem now is, my gravity only went up to 1%, because most of the sales were in a 24hr period.
      Adrian - gravity has nothing to do with whether the sales were made on the same day. No individual affiliate can possibly contribute more than 1 point to a product's gravity figure, regardless of the number of sales he makes and how quickly/slowly he makes them. Gravity doesn't count sales: it counts "affiliates who have each made one or more sales". Gravity isn't a "percentage" scale. It's explained in more detail in this post, if that helps.

      Whether you have one affiliate who makes one sale, or one affiliate who makes 10,000 sales, in either case the gravity will be "1.0".

      Originally Posted by suresolutions View Post

      One weird thing is I'm now getting sales with no hop link commission, how is this possible, I've done no seo.
      There are many possibilites for this. But I think most vendors find that their affiliates hoplinks aren't always correctly recorded by ClickBank, and in those cases the "extra money" goes to the vendor, because of some "cookie problem" (there are many different possible causes for this) not accrediting the relevant affiliate. There have been many posts here from vendors offering 75% commissions who find that overall it actually costs them more like 55%/60% of the affiliate-referred sales, because there are always a proportion of affiliate-referred sales not being accredited to any affiliate. Good for vendors; bad for affiliates, of course.
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  • Profile picture of the author suresolutions
    Some great advice guys, thanks for the input. I'm at a loose end at the moment, the current conversion rate for my affiliate is 31%, but the sales have now slowed down to around one a day. Is it worth me paying to advertise in the Joint Venture section of this and other JV sites? The Conversion rate is high, but the CB gravity is obviously still low (1.0).
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