How Many Posts Should I Have Before Starting a WSO?

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Whenever people ask for tips on WSOs, one of the biggest tips is that people should have a good number of posts before selling a WSO; however, few people classify what a good number of posts is.

In your opinion, how many posts does someone need before they can successfully start a WSO, without people question whether s/he is a real Internet marketer or a scam artist?
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  • Profile picture of the author Hamida Harland
    I don't think you need a massive amount of posts. It's better to have a few really good, helpful posts than many short, 'boost my post count' type posts.

    You can improve your credibility by using your real name and adding a picture of yourself, adding contact info to your profile, putting a link to your blog in your sig file (if you have one) etc.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mr Bill
    In my opinion the number of posts are irrelevant to your offer. Your offer should stand on it's own. If you have massive or undeniable proof it will become apparent. Having lots of posts to your name is all fine and good but not really relevant to the quality of your WSO. Focus on being extremely helpful and creating the best product you can, not on how many times you can post a comment.

    Reputation might help you with a few buyers and others will sniff their noses at you unless you're a 1,000 post "star" but I've seen plenty of people with single digit post counts release outstanding products. They obviously have lots of valuable experience and are just new to the Warrior Forum.
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    • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
      It would help to some extent if you had a lot but only if they've been good and they've built you a reputation.

      Seeing as you're selling a WSO on how to make money or something that helps someone to make money, I'd first suggest that you know how to make money online. If I doubted you could do this for a millisecond I'd never buy a thing from you, whether you had 10,000 posts or 1.
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    • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
      I joined this forum in December of 2006 and didn't post my first WSO until
      May of 2007. By that time I had well over 1,000 posts.

      Here's a novel idea.

      Instead of trying to jump in here and run a WSO, how about building a little
      trust and credibility with the other forum members?

      How?

      Oh, I don't know. Maybe start by answering some of the questions that the
      new people have. Show them that you actually DO know something and aren't
      going to charge them for the right to know what it is.

      Report spam posts by using that little spam icon at the left hand side of every
      post. Help clean this place up.

      Abide by the rules and show the forum that you know how to play with
      others.

      I could think of more but I think you get the idea.

      Do you have to wait 5 months like I did? No, but maybe not treating this
      place like a cash cow, like I see so many do (not mentioning names) right
      from the get go just might help you in the long run.

      Besides, brand new people have a very hard time selling WSOs because
      they haven't built enough trust yet. You are going to find that sales aren't
      going to be what you think they're going to be.

      Take this advice for what it's worth to you.

      After all...it's just MY opinion.

      And what the hell do I know?
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    • Profile picture of the author WillR
      Originally Posted by WSOHelp View Post

      In my opinion the number of posts are irrelevant to your offer. Your offer should stand on it's own. If you have massive or undeniable proof it will become apparent. Having lots of posts to your name is all fine and good but not really relevant to the quality of your WSO. Focus on being extremely helpful and creating the best product you can, not on how many times you can post a comment.
      I don't think anyone is saying the number of posts you have is going to mean you have a better quality product. People are obviously going to trust someone who has been around the forum more than someone who has just rocked up and their second post is a WSO. People will always be more skeptical of things they don't know much about.

      Members with a very low post count obviously have a lot less to lose than someone with an account of hundreds or thousands of posts. That reputation does not mean you necessarily produce better quality products than someone who has just joined the forum but it does mean you are less likely to be running some type of hit and run scam.
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  • Profile picture of the author art72
    I forced myself to wait until I had 250 posts before joining the War Room, under the belief the 'temptation' to start slinging WSO's would be too tempting. I was probably only half-right to do this though, as once I did join, I soon realized the amount of value in the private section was worth 10x the membership.

    I still haven't produced a WSO, nor am I planning one anytime soon. While I believe you should build some credibility, it all boils down to what you can deliver value wise.

    I'm sure there's experienced marketers, programmers, and designers that could assemble a high quality WSO with few posts and produce a valuable offer, but more importantly, I think the first one you put out should be of extra special care in order to build a lasting impression and credibility for the long-term.

    All the Best,

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  • Profile picture of the author Mr Bill
    Correct, and that was my point. Low post count does not mean low quality WSO. It's the quality of the offer that I believe has a greater effect on the success of a WSO than the post count.
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  • I would say "thanks" are a better metric than posts.

    Also, every person who appreciates your posts is a potential supporter of your WSO.
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    • Profile picture of the author Chris Worner
      Originally Posted by Chris The Traffic Blogger View Post

      I would say "thanks" are a better metric than posts.
      Really?

      How do you know I didn't pay someone to create accounts and thank my posts? In fact, how do you even know that the 'thanks' I received were for useful information on how to make money on-line and not some one sentence wisecrack response?

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    • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
      Originally Posted by Chris The Traffic Blogger View Post

      I would say "thanks" are a better metric than posts.

      Also, every person who appreciates your posts is a potential supporter of your WSO.
      It can be an indicator, but there are many reasons people thank posts. I thank people not only for giving good advice, but also for making me laugh or think. I will also thank people I disagree with in some cases, but that wouldn't mean I'd be interested in their WSO.

      Still, thanks (received and given) are one thing a potential buyer can look into to learn more about a seller.

      All the best,
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
    I actually like this question much more than "what should my WSO be about". It's also what I consider to be the biggest secret to a successful WSO, and that's participation in the forum.

    Assuming everything else is equal between two offers, the one that will sell better is the one that is being sold by the person people know better.

    To be clear, the key word is 'participation' and that is much different than 'making posts'. Contribute where you can and try to add value to any threads you post in.

    I tell people to have 100 useful posts at the very least before they run their first WSO, but the more posts the better. However, it's not really post count that matters; it's the fact that people need to have some idea of who you are and that requires participating in the forum.

    All the best,
    Michael
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    • Profile picture of the author art72
      Originally Posted by Michael Oksa View Post

      I actually like this question much more than "what should my WSO be about". It's also what I consider to be the biggest secret to a successful WSO, and that's participation in the forum.
      I completely agree, as it implies the OP is polling an experienced and non-experienced audience to determine a series of guidelines to construct a future product with a concern for the result.

      As opposed to someone asking for the "keys to the kingdom" and an esay way out.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jerry Williamson
    Basically, what I think everyone is saying that quality posts outrank anything else. I've been on WF for a year now and only active here for a few months. I am a business networking consultant offline and I train my clients that building relationships is the most time consuming thing they will do.....but the most productive. I think it's the same online as well. Don't look for a get rich quick avenue and you'll be fine. Best of luck here.
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  • Profile picture of the author louie6925
    I think honesty is going to win more sales than post count! If your post count is small like mine then make sure all your posts are honest! If someone does want to buy from you and do a bit of due diligence on who you are. Then 50 good honest value posts are going to be better than 1,000 pointless posts! The same goes for your sales letter! Anyone can write sensational fluff, which sells well on clickbank etc but not on a marketing forum such as this! Remember a WSO isn't about giving your product cheaper to warriors, but more about providing value to fellow warriors! Be honest and remember warriors are no mugs and not providing honesty and value to them will only lead to your WSO failing and gaining a bad reputation on here!
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  • Profile picture of the author JCorp
    As long as you post quality and valuable posts, thats all that really matters. I really don't see how the number of posts can effect the success of a WSO launch...especially if your product is genuinely good.
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    • Profile picture of the author Tina Golden
      Originally Posted by warrior600 View Post

      As long as you post quality and valuable posts, thats all that really matters. I really don't see how the number of posts can effect the success of a WSO launch...especially if your product is genuinely good.
      How good the product is has less to do with the success than you think, at least in the beginning. Because you need to get someone to buy before they know if the product is any good and the fact of the matter is that for many of us, we will hesitate to buy if we don't feel we know who you are.

      Once you get a few buyers and the word gets out that it is a good product, that can overcome the initial hesitation, but to get a good start out of the gate, it definitely helps for people to know you.

      There is no set magical number of posts, however. There are some here that have hundreds and even thousands of posts that I don't know, and so would research before I bought from them. I guess it is the level of interaction with others that plays a bigger role, for me anyway.

      However, if you have a product you believe to be of value and helpful to people, don't let your low post count or anything stop you from releasing it. Get some reviews from people the forum does know and that credibility can "rub off" on you and your offer. Keep the price low for the first offer you do so more people will be willing to take a chance on an unknown person.

      Build a list and those people that take a chance on you and LIKE your product, will be far more likely to buy your next product - and spread the word to their circles of influence.
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  • Profile picture of the author barbling
    Count me in as someone who believes walking the walk is what's truly important for positioning yourself with your WSO.

    I've been online now since 1997, joined the WF in, what, 2009, sporadically posted only a bit, and now only recently have been ramping up my helpfulness.

    That being said, I've also been maintaining bunches of non-warrior stuff I can link to in me site, me profile, etc.

    I'd happily buy from someone who walks the walk they talk even if I personally don't know the person (just did so yesterday) but would pass on someone who is obviously a poser.

    Make it obvious you're not a poser, and you're on your way.
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    • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
      Originally Posted by barbling View Post

      Count me in as someone who believes walking the walk is what's truly important for positioning yourself with your WSO.

      I've been online now since 1997, joined the WF in, what, 2009, sporadically posted only a bit, and now only recently have been ramping up my helpfulness.

      That being said, I've also been maintaining bunches of non-warrior stuff I can link to in me site, me profile, etc.

      I'd happily buy from someone who walks the walk they talk even if I personally don't know the person (just did so yesterday) but would pass on someone who is obviously a poser.

      Make it obvious you're not a poser, and you're on your way.
      Spoken like a true New Jersey-ite.
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  • Profile picture of the author KimboJim
    From the beginning I knew that quality posts would be better (maybe I should have added that). No one would take me, or anyone else, seriously if just had posts like "great post!" or "I don't know, but I'm sure someone else will." But, at the same time, if the WSO somewhat grabs me but not fully, I tend to check post count.

    I am not trying to use WF as a cash cow, but I do have a few ideas for products that (unlike a lot of other people I've seen) I am actually going to market outside of WF, you know, like it's an actual product.

    But thank you everyone for clearing this up. I would press the "Thanks" button for everyone, but it is 9am here, and I haven't slept yet. So, I shall do it after waking up, but everyone is going to get a nice round of thanks in a few hours!
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  • Profile picture of the author Brandon Huang
    Post along with big amount of "thanked" might increase your credibility but I still think the best is to focus on your product, sales letter and also ezines to prove your credibility.

    1) Ezines are free tips or intro to your product that can help boost trust and get them on your list
    2) Sales letter are used to entice them with whatever you offer (don't stretch the truth too much! Be rational)
    3) Product (This is like their first impression, if they like this edition they might buy more if it is related to what they want)

    These are the 3 things I focus on first to get an generate cash while generating trust among my clients.

    "The money is in the list"
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  • Profile picture of the author BabyMama
    Personally I waited till I had 400 posts before I joined the War room. This was because for a while I had no need to join the war room or post a WSO. I have several very successful services for sale in the Warriors for hire section that were doing very well. Its only been recently that I have wanted to expand my services and reach out to the WSO section that I decided to join.

    I think it doesn't matter how many posts you have before you post a WSO but if you have a reliable reputation on the forum and post valuable content you will be more recognized than someone who has only a few posts.

    Just my 2c
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