Should I Buy The .Com Version Of My .Org Site?

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I own a .org site with an easy to remember keyword domain related to the product I am selling on the domain. Someone else (the entire time I have owned the .org site) has owned the .com version of the same domain and has it for sale at an insanely inflated price. I have a fear that a competitor may pay their price and then my .org version will become an after thought because everyone I send there will end up on the .com. I'm not sure if my fears are unfounded or legit in this case should I go ahead and buy it or just let it go and hope for the best with the .org with the possibility someone else may one day buy the .com version?
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  • Profile picture of the author Josh Anderson
    Yes, always get the .com if its available... even if just to redirect. There is no reason not to and there are lots of reasons you should.

    People ask this question here a lot... and frankly its a no brainer and should just be an automatic buy.
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  • Profile picture of the author webapex
    Since .org domains are one of the more iffy ones to do business with, I would be serious about getting the .com. Certainly, you don't want to let him know you own the .org in any sort of negotiation, pricing is so nebulous, you never know where a negotiation may go.

    The other factor, is it possible for someone else to match your search ranking with a reasonable effort, where they can steal a fair amount of business?
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    I wouldn't buy the .com at the inflated price. I've been in this situation before and the .com just sat there and never got sold. I buy the .com, .net, .org and .info when they are all available at reg fee if it's a primary site for me.
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  • Profile picture of the author kaper7
    Do not pay an inflated price for the dot com unless you research it and see double or more of the traffic you're currently getting.

    The name alone will not help you since you've already put efforts into the dot org.
    Lastly you can watch that domain and bid when it goes to an auction.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dresden14
    .com will always be supreme. So if its available, YES
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    • Profile picture of the author Michael Shook
      Unless you are branding yourself with this keyword, you probably don't need it. You certainly can buy it, but if you are not interested in paying a premium price, then there is not much you can do without waiting for a name drop.

      You don't really need it for SEO, the dot org will do just just fine, all things being equal.
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      • Profile picture of the author Alexander K
        I agree with the others about not buying it. In your own words, it is insanely inflated. Wait it out, he may lower the price. Or if it doesn't sell for a while, figure out if the .com would in fact increase your revenue, how much you think would be lost if someone else purchased it, how much you "want" it, and make him an offer at a lower amount. He may be just starting high.

        My personal opinion, since .org is about as well known as .com, I don't think people will mix it up if you use word of mouth advertising.
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  • Profile picture of the author George Curtis
    Jon,

    I have a mini-course on getting domain names and have always suggested the dot com version if you can.

    That being said... it is NOT the "holy grail".

    We can find MANY examples of successful .net and .org sites beating the mess out of their .com rivals... so don't sweat it... and DEFINITELY don't pay an inflated price for the .com.

    HOWEVER... I would recommend going through a professional for acquiring domain names that relate to your existing business.

    It COULD be that the price is inflated... but due to the economy... the buyer may be willing to accept FAR, FAR less.

    Disney World employed "buyers" to help them buy up property from farmers when they were trying to acquire the land the needed to build in Orlando. That was a very smart tactic. Had the farmers known that it was Disney Land trying to get their property, then the price would have been much higher.

    A member of the coaching club that I am in is a professional domain name broker and I use him to buy domain names for our clients, where someone else already owns them. He is great and comes out looking like a "little old lady" trying to buy a domain name for her quilting club.

    He doesn't always succeed, but he is good at this game.

    Again... PM me if you want me to put you in touch with him (as long as you are serious about this). He may charge you somewhere between $99 to $199 for his trouble... whether he succeeds or not... but it may be worth a try, depending on the economics for you.

    Good luck!
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    • Profile picture of the author MattVit
      Originally Posted by George Curtis View Post

      A member of the coaching club that I am in is a professional domain name broker and I use him to buy domain names for our clients, where someone else already owns them. He is great and comes out looking like a "little old lady" trying to buy a domain name for her quilting club.
      That's incredibly dodgy and possibly illegal. I don't know what kind of coaching club you're in but it sounds like a pack of criminals and scam artists. No offense... but seriously, if it's not illegal, it's definitely a scam on some level.
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      • Profile picture of the author tpw
        Originally Posted by MattVit View Post

        A member of the coaching club that I am in is a professional domain name broker and I use him to buy domain names for our clients, where someone else already owns them. He is great and comes out looking like a "little old lady" trying to buy a domain name for her quilting club.

        That's incredibly dodgy and possibly illegal. I don't know what kind of coaching club you're in but it sounds like a pack of criminals and scam artists. No offense... but seriously, if it's not illegal, it's definitely a scam on some level.

        Exactly how does that sound criminal or scammy?

        Domain Brokers have been around since the dawn of the Internet, and there is certainly nothing illegal or wrong about the practice.

        The broker wants to get the domain for as little money as possible, to secure the domain for his clients.

        There is nothing different about this than the job that the real estate broker does, except one real estate broker represents the seller and another represents the buyer.

        The domain broker simply represents the buyer.



        As to the original post, some people when they hear about your domain, mysite.org, they will go to their browser and type in mysite.com

        That is the primary reason to want the .com also.

        And I would be inclined to use the domain broker, because they are experienced in getting people to come off of those inflated prices.
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  • Profile picture of the author christopherchan
    I do NOT recommed you to buy the .com version.

    competition is always there. although .com is certainly better than any others but if you own .org. In my opinion, that's enough for you to rank.

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  • Profile picture of the author richjerk321
    Everything is negotiable.

    Persuasion is an Art.

    Message the other owner, and offer him a fraction of what he or she wants to acquire the domain. Go up from there to compromise.

    Remember when people go to a site, they always go to a .com

    So if you ever decide to advertise offline via TV, Radio, etc. and your site is announced, most people will remember it as a .com

    Originally Posted by Jon Tees View Post

    I own a .org site with an easy to remember keyword domain related to the product I am selling on the domain. Someone else (the entire time I have owned the .org site) has owned the .com version of the same domain and has it for sale at an insanely inflated price. I have a fear that a competitor may pay their price and then my .org version will become an after thought because everyone I send there will end up on the .com. I'm not sure if my fears are unfounded or legit in this case should I go ahead and buy it or just let it go and hope for the best with the .org with the possibility someone else may one day buy the .com version?
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  • Profile picture of the author Abby Gibbs
    It's inflated price, i'm afraid it's not advisable for the .com site.
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  • Profile picture of the author minisite
    If you can get the .com version you should definitely do it. .Com is king and will always will be besides, you don't want it to compete with your .org website.
    Additionally, if you're going to build a brand, always get the .com domain extension.
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  • Profile picture of the author Levira
    It seems like you have been doing well even with the .com site around all this time. Why kill yourself to get it? If you can, go ahead and do so; if it is too expensive keep working on your site and keep ahead of the .com site.
    The price may eventually come down and make it more affordable for you.
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  • Profile picture of the author Saxydez
    You should definitely get the .com version of it because .com is MUCH more common and Popular. People like to use .org but it is much easier to find a website using .com
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    • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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      Originally Posted by Saxydez View Post

      You should definitely get the .com version of it because .com is MUCH more common and Popular. People like to use .org but it is much easier to find a website using .com
      This is such utter and complete nonsense. People find websites on the Internet from links.

      ... click ... you're there, whether it's a com, org or whatever. There's no reason to pay an inflated price for a .com when you already have the .org. You could contact the seller and offer him a price you're comfortable with, but most of these people sit on these domains forever, rarely selling them unless it's really a premium domain.
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  • Profile picture of the author davezan
    If you can afford it. How much so far, and how long has that .com been registered compared
    to your .org anyway?
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  • Profile picture of the author HN
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    Originally Posted by Jon Tees View Post

    I own a .org site with an easy to remember keyword domain related to the product I am selling on the domain. Someone else (the entire time I have owned the .org site) has owned the .com version of the same domain and has it for sale at an insanely inflated price. I have a fear that a competitor may pay their price and then my .org version will become an after thought because everyone I send there will end up on the .com. I'm not sure if my fears are unfounded or legit in this case should I go ahead and buy it or just let it go and hope for the best with the .org with the possibility someone else may one day buy the .com version?
    It is a common belief that .net and .org leak traffic to dot com. If the price is way inflated I wouldn't buy. Visitors will not end up on the .com
    For example. bookblog.net was once very active site, so the .com was for sale for $1,000, while bookblog.org is still for sale for $1488 (directnic). Some people will try to get an insane price for com, like $9,900.00 for a silly name like BlogBook.com (variation of bookblog)

    If you look at traffic details, bookblog.net still has over 1000 visitors, while bookblog.com only 38 visitors a day (visualizetraffic). So the leakage is minimal. Why it worked in the past was because if you typed bookblog in address bar it would redirect to bookblog.com, not any more, now it goes to search results where .net is in #1 spot.

    Another misbelief is that .com will leak some traffic to .co or .cm since people make typos. If you look at art.co it only gets 10 visitors a day while art.com has 100,000 visitors a day. So no leakage from .com to .co

    If you traffic comes from SE or bookmarks, you won't leak traffic. A few people will check out .com out of curiosity, while a few end up there my a mistake.

    Finally, if you are going to type the website URL into address bar, IE and FF will suggest the URL of sites you have previously visited or bookmarked, so no need the type the whole keyword and dot com into address bar.
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    • Profile picture of the author apolwar
      Originally Posted by HN View Post

      It is a common belief that .net and .org leak traffic to dot com. If the price is way inflated I wouldn't buy. Visitors will not end up on the .com
      For example. bookblog.net was once very active site, so the .com was for sale for $1,000, while bookblog.org is still for sale for $1488 (directnic). Some people will try to get an insane price for com, like $9,900.00 for a silly name like BlogBook.com (variation of bookblog)

      If you look at traffic details, bookblog.net still has over 1000 visitors, while bookblog.com only 38 visitors a day (visualizetraffic). So the leakage is minimal. Why it worked in the past was because if you typed bookblog in address bar it would redirect to bookblog.com, not any more, now it goes to search results where .net is in #1 spot.

      Another misbelief is that .com will leak some traffic to .co or .cm since people make typos. If you look at art.co it only gets 10 visitors a day while art.com has 100,000 visitors a day. So no leakage from .com to .co

      If you traffic comes from SE or bookmarks, you won't leak traffic. A few people will check out .com out of curiosity, while a few end up there my a mistake.

      Finally, if you are going to type the website URL into address bar, IE and FF will suggest the URL of sites you have previously visited or bookmarked, so no need the type the whole keyword and dot com into address bar.
      Thanks HN for painting a clearer picture of site traffic. And from what you say, site owners should also make sure that people bookmarked their sites that way it will be sure your site is the one they visit.

      Am i right?
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  • Profile picture of the author Illuminations
    I don't really give a damn on domain extensions but I would settle for a .com anytime of the day. However, if the .com isn't available, any extension will do.
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  • Profile picture of the author bellringer09
    I would only buy it if you can make use of it. If it's just to stop other people using it it's not worth it. There will always be competition and you have to live with it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jon Tees
    The price isn’t negotiable being as how it’s being sold by a company and not a person. It’s a fixed price (over $100) take it or leave it. This is a little on the steep side for one domain name that was purchased for the sole intention of flipping it to whomever comes along and wishes to purchase it.

    Another person also owns the .net version and someone else owns a variation on the .com

    I’m pretty sure if worse comes to worse I could come up with several original branded .com names to forward to the .org site
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  • Profile picture of the author Dmaind
    It depends, if it is not costing you a small fortune and you have invested a small fortune in your business then go for it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alex Hilton
    Yes, definitely get the .Com version!

    Google treats .Com and .Org domains differently.

    .Com being the one that gets the "better treatment".
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  • Profile picture of the author Jon Tees
    I was going to purchase it at the agreed upon price but the negotiations somehow took a turn for the worse and he raised his asking price by about $850. I was skeptical about buying the domain at $150 before but there’s no way I’m paying over $800 for it when I can just come up with some other related .com’s and forward them to the .org or perhaps even move the entire site to a different .com as to not even need his .com version at all.
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  • Profile picture of the author FaisalKarim
    Owning a domain name is one thing and making it something worthy is a whole another thing. If you can own the .com at reasonable price then there's absolutely nothing wrong with going for it. However, if the .com price is inflated then it's not a bad idea to play the 'wait and see' game. Alternately, try negotiating. You'll be surprised what one can get away with with proper negotiation. No harm in making an offer you can easily afford, BUT, I would strongly advise against showing any kind of desperation to own the .com. Do not reveal your cards, as in, there's no need to divulge that you are the owner of the .org, or have a successful website at that. Just approach casually and see if the .com lands in your lap. Most importantly, remember that it takes serious effort to build a domain name into a web property so no need to feel overly threatened by the looming .com out there. Maybe you'll be able to wait out the .com owners' patience and make a purchase on your own terms. The key: just don't show any desperation for the domain name and I think it may well work out for you just fine. Good luck.
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  • Profile picture of the author nicolas simpson
    If the price is good i think you should go for it, that's extra traffic, sure thats something that you will be happy to get.
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  • Profile picture of the author malta
    If this is a domain name that you are planning to brand, and if there is even a small chance that this will get some type-in direct traffic, then you should definitely get also the .com.

    If not, there's really no point.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jon Tees
    I was able to negotiate and got the seller to lower their price thereby acquiring the .com. I was going to move the site to the .com but it’s already established with backlinks and what not on the .org so I may just forward to the site that’s already set up.
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