Offline Marketing - How to find clients

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There have been a ton of great threads on the offline marketing field recently and I wanted to add my two cents.

The biggest problem is trying to find clients that match your skills. Say you want to do websites for local businesses or only deal with companies that already have websites but need rebuilding or add-ons (email capture, event calendars, better SEO, etc).

First, I only want to work with companies who are already advertising. Why, because I hate leading a horse to water, I want them at the trough already, just thirsty for my services. Second, I don't want to education someone on the importance of advertising, I want them to understand that when we meet.

So how do I find these customers you might ask? It's really easy, all it takes is your eyes, a pad of paper and pen. This is exactly what I do...

1st. I flip through the newspaper everyday. I cut out or make note of any ads from local - mom and pop type businesses.

2nd. I listen to the radio, any local, non huge company that runs an ad I make a note of on the pad at a stop light. I tried that once while driving and lets just say the police aren't too fond of it.

3rd. I go through the yellow pages every year and do the same thing as above.

4th. I look at static advertising (billboards, signs, etc). Again more notes.

Now that I have a list I start looking at what I can offer them and divide them into two sections.

1. companies with websites

2. companies without websites

Now I look at companies and decide who is worth going after. After all if you're charging $1500 to get started and you're trying to pitch it to a 99 cent store it might be an uphill climb. So I focus on businesses that with a few extra sales (like less than one or two a month) can pay for the cost of my services.

See I may start off with a list of a couple of hundred businesses but after going over them I have it down to a hundred or less. Why, because I'd rather focus like a laser instead of spray and pray all these businesses.

Now there are a ton of ways to approach these companies. I don't like cold calling and the thought of walking into a business to pitch them without being invited is not for me. So what do I do?

I bake. I know, not really macho I know but I can make some mean cookies. I make a dozen of them and mail them along with a simple intro letter requesting a few minutes of their time (insert David's letter here).

Let me back up here and tell you how I find out the companies information. I use to use Info USA or Goleads.com or a place like that. It was great but it cost me hundreds.

I have since found a listing of 99.9% of the businesses in the US that was for sale. The list is great cause it comes with all the stuff you need - business name, address, phone number, fax, website address, owners first and last name and business category they are in. If you want more info or a list shoot me a PM. I'm tired of talking about it, back to making money.

So now I have a targeted group of people, all their contact info, so what is the next step.

Baking. That's right I said it, I am a man and I bake. Ok really my soon to be wife bakes and I pay her back with lovin. So really it is a lose lose deal for her. Where was I, oh yes making money.

So I bake these cookies and mail them to the place. I know it cost more than a letter but if you had your choice between a simple letter or a package that smelt like grandmothers house which are going to open.

So they open the package, eat the cookies, read the letter and give me a call.

What happens if they don't call. Well that is where I follow up marketing comes into place.

This post is long enough for now, quick review.

1. Only deal with businesses that are already doing some form of marketing (yellow pages, tv, radio, newspaper, etc)

2. Put the companies into two catagories - with or without website

3. Go through the list again and cherry pick the ones you think can afford your services or that you are interested in.

4. Get a list of their contact info

5. Mail them a package instead just a letter. If you have to go cheap I understand but with less targets you can afford to spend a little more. If you really need to roll out your mailing - meaning send out 10 at a time or a one a day or whatever until you make your sale and then you can send out two a day, etc.

6. If no response continue to mail to them over the course of at least 3 months, one time per month. You can even pick up the phone if needed - I know I know, I hate the phone call to but it is a warmer call cause they will remember the cookies or coffee you send them.

I hope this helps some people with a laid out, paint by the numbers, simple plan.

Tim
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  • Profile picture of the author TimCastleman
    Someone just shot me a great PM that I answered but wanted to include it here.

    Their question - do you go in with an action plan to these businesses or not?

    Here is what I do.

    I go in there with a clear understanding of everything I can offer them but when it comes to them I am a blank slate.

    I go in and find out more about them and their business and what they like and don't like about their marketing and how I can help.

    Why do I do this - because if I go in to sell a $400 widget I will most likely sell it, but if I go in with a clean slate more times than not I end up selling more.

    Hope that helps some of you.

    Tim
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    • Profile picture of the author MRomeo09
      It's a good plan. I'm sure I'd open it up as well, and read the letter too.

      I might have to think about sending my salsa. I make a mean salsa. Trade you a salsa for some cookies.

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      • Profile picture of the author braver55b
        Originally Posted by MRomeo09 View Post

        Trade you a salsa for some cookies.
        That's funny.
        Tim,
        This is very interesting, when I hear about all this contacting offline businesses for potential clients, I thought: lots of cold calling and rejection;but your approaching of contacting businesses that have websites and are already advertising sounds more palatable and profitable.

        What type of numbers are coming your way in terms of percentage of contacts that actually end up buying your service/product?
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    • Profile picture of the author ramohr
      Yes I like the way you explain how you setup your offline business. I am looking forward to getting more details form you and the listings on this subject. Do you specialize with a certain type of business? Or any business that has money to pay. Do you have a website for review? I would like to see your website? Do you put video on your cleints site? Any help you offer would be appreciated. Thank you so much....Sent me A PM with your listing and whatever services you offer. Take care look forward to hearing from you soon. I guess I have to type more words to submit this request to you. Maybe a few more will do it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Headfirst
    Look for businesses advertising through directmail but not online. A good place to start is those envelopes filled with buckslips that get mailed to residential addresses once a week.
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    • Profile picture of the author krislisa
      no matter how high-tech we are nowadays, I can say that the tiring-letter-writing still works and other means like newspaper ads, phone campaign. And if you will do offline and online marketing all together, your business should surely boom!
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  • Profile picture of the author Mad Dawg
    Thanks for the layout Tim. I'm currently expanding into offline consulting and for IMers I find the hardest thing is client acquisition.

    The cookies are a nice touch. I've done mailers before and I'm sure my mailers would have had increased response if they came with cookies.

    Another great method for getting clients is to print out a simple flyer detailing how you can get them more business, increase their profits etc etc.

    Then just drop these flyers at local businesses around the area saying "I was walking by to meet with a local client and thought you might be interested in this too"
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    • Profile picture of the author TimCastleman
      MD-

      If I can help you let me know. Another one that works great is fresh roasted coffee beans. I had a friend send me some from California and it made my entire office smell so wonderful for days and I don't even drink coffee. But I still remember that, even if it was 5 years ago or longer.
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      • Profile picture of the author AndrewCavanagh
        Oh cookies.

        Well I don't know if I'd call you but I'd certainly eat your cookies!

        Kindest regards,
        Andrew Cavanagh
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        • Profile picture of the author TimCastleman
          Andrew -

          Is that some type of sexual reference you sick puppy you.

          Hope all is well with you. Now that the other thread is closed I hope to see you posting more of your wisdom.

          In all seriousness folks, if you did nothing but read Andrew's threads on here you'd get near a lifetime of business knowledge in exchange for a couple of hours of your time.

          Well worth it.

          Tim
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          • Profile picture of the author AndrewCavanagh
            Originally Posted by TimCastleman View Post

            Andrew -

            Is that some type of sexual reference you sick puppy you.

            Hope all is well with you. Now that the other thread is closed I hope to see you posting more of your wisdom.

            In all seriousness folks, if you did nothing but read Andrew's threads on here you'd get near a lifetime of business knowledge in exchange for a couple of hours of your time.

            Well worth it.

            Tim

            Er no not a sexual reference at all.

            I didn't even think of that...so who's the sick puppy now?!!

            Thank you for your kind words.

            Kindest regards,
            Andrew Cavanagh
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  • Profile picture of the author Chuck Staff
    Tim:

    How about writing (or buying a PLR ebook) on a topic that would be of interest to your target market? "How To Dramatically Increase Your Customer Base While Lowering Advertising Costs?" or "Good Business Moves In a Bad Economy" or "Use The Recession to Your Advatage - Kick-Butt Small Business Marketing Moves"

    Print up a flyer or post-card with the title, a half-dozen bullet points on what they'll learn in the report and instructions on how they can download this $29 report - absolutely free - by visiting your web page. (Don't give away the farm... just some tantalizing tips that will make them want to talk to you to find out more.)

    Walk around town and hand out your flyer. No sales pitch. Them that's interested will download your freebie (and are opted-in to your list).

    Email or phone them to follow-up and set-up a no-cost, no-obligation appointment.

    Here's the key: Role Reversal. There's no pressure on you since they contacted you first by downloading your report. When you call, the ball's in their court... "I see you've downloaded my report. How can I help you?"

    All the pressure's off. You're not there to "sell". You're there to help.
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  • Profile picture of the author Steve Solem
    Tim - great stuff there and I agree that lumpy, delicious mail can work wonders to get a foot in the door with someone, but to be honest though I might be a little leery if someone sent me some home baked cookies in the mail. I guess I watch too much news, I don't know, but I'd feel better sending and/or receiving something that was in a sealed package.

    In any event, knowing a prospect is going to be worth hundreds or thousands of dollars to you over their lifetime it only makes sense to spend a few bucks to try to get them working with you.

    And Chuck - you've hit on something I've been thinking ever since reading my first offline marketing thread here. So many people seem to expect to close the deal their first time out, but just as you wouldn't ask a girl you just met to marry you right away, you need to develop your business relationships to a point where they know, like and trust you enough to do business with you - and giving them valuable free information in the form of a special report or audio/video is a great way to do that.

    I've also thought that if you're targeting local business owners to sell your services to, putting together an online business directory (portal) and offering some free advertising to local businesses there is an excellent way to start and continue a relationship with them - and you can do this for next to nothing these days.

    Cheers,

    Steve
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    • Profile picture of the author TimCastleman
      Steve -

      I understand what you are saying. We put them in a nice little tin along with a little card letting them know we're not ax murders, etc. we just wanted to say hello. Plus good food gets them in a good mood.

      And I agree 100% with the whole rushing the sale. In fact I tell them up front the first meeting - I am here to listen and learn and not here to sell you anything.

      It is the second meeting where I go over everything they told me and then offer my advice (read services).

      Tim

      PS: spring is coming soon, time to break out the golf clubs and start mailing golf balls to clients soon. Get them out of the office for several hours to talk about them.

      PPS: HBO had a free preview this weekend and at 3 am they had a show called Cathouse on. You can guess the content but one thing that struck me was how great these ladies where at selling their services to their clients. Their secrets - they listen to them, agree with them, and give them what they desire and are lacking in their life.

      Go figure.
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      • Profile picture of the author 4morereferrals
        Tim,

        I do exactly what you do - cookies brownies nuts gift cards etc ... to "offline" prospects for other products - NOT IM services. It works, but they rarely will call - regardless of how delicious your mean cookies are. What you have done though is ... pretty much guarantee your piece gets opened, and read, and remembered. I posted about this in the other thread at length. Not sure folks were getting it.

        I like the idea - I do it - it works for me. Its also a great gatekeeper opener - they like cookies and the people who send em!

        Here's my issues:

        1. I ant bakin shizznizzle
        2. I aint putting em in a tin
        3. What kinda card you making or sending inserting?
        4. Does your sales letter really do something interesitng and cool - that they will not soon forget?
        5. Whats your cost with time figured in at the end of this process - per mail piece? cookies in a tin gotta be going USPS for like $5 min in just postage ?

        Steve Solem and I use a system that is drop dead simple and awesomely deliscious to accomplish this for approx. $14 a piece and I never turn the oven on, or dirty a pan. And my salesletter doesnt get thrown away - well most of the time it doesnt... Business owners rarely throw pictures of their baby out
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        • Profile picture of the author jnapier
          Originally Posted by 4morereferrals View Post

          Tim,

          I do exactly what you do - cookies brownies nuts gift cards etc ... to "offline" prospects for other products - NOT IM services. It works, but they rarely will call - regardless of how delicious your mean cookies are. What you have done though is ... pretty much guarantee your piece gets opened, and read, and remembered. I posted about this in the other thread at length. Not sure folks were getting it.

          I like the idea - I do it - it works for me. Its also a great gatekeeper opener - they like cookies and the people who send em!

          Here's my issues:

          1. I ant bakin shizznizzle
          2. I aint putting em in a tin
          3. What kinda card you making or sending inserting?
          4. Does your sales letter really do something interesitng and cool - that they will not soon forget?
          5. Whats your cost with time figured in at the end of this process - per mail piece? cookies in a tin gotta be going USPS for like $5 min in just postage ?

          Steve Solem and I use a system that is drop dead simple and awesomely deliscious to accomplish this for approx. $14 a piece and I never turn the oven on, or dirty a pan. And my salesletter doesnt get thrown away - well most of the time it doesnt... Business owners rarely throw pictures of their baby out

          Just a quick note. You sent me some lumpy mail...but it has not gotten here. Where did you send it?? How is it sent? I'm curious to find out how long this type of item takes to ship?

          Jay NaPier
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      • Profile picture of the author Hank
        Great post, Tim. ..I could sure use some offline cookies...er..I mean consulting.

        Maybe I'll PM you my postal address and you can send me the cookies..I mean letters.

        And remember, as Dan Kennedy says, like most prospects, I require constant follow-up, so that means at least 3-5 cookies...I mean letters, ok?

        Now that's a tasty proposition, isn't it:-)

        Cheers!

        Hanif
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  • Profile picture of the author jnapier
    On the Cookie idea:

    I'm not going to go that route. I'm working on a project that would not only get clients attention, but also get their ears for a good 15 minutes AND you only have to do the work 1 time. I'll keep you informed should this project proceed.

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    • Profile picture of the author Jillian Slack
      Another way to find potential clients is if you find a blog written by a local blogger and see that they are starting to sell ads on their blog.

      I discovered one last night. I try to bookmark local blogs so I can check in once in a while to see what they have to say.

      I'm amazed at the lack of knowledge these local bloggers have about how to make money with their blogs.

      The one I found last night has a few little squares along the right margin. Looks like they are advertising their own business and their spouse's MLM business over there. I'd say if anyone else bought an ad there, they'd be a potential offline customer because they really need to know how to do a better job.
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      • Profile picture of the author TimCastleman
        Guys this is just an idea. You don't have to follow it at all. I've also done it with coffee and I agree that it gets the foot in the door which is what it is designed to.

        $14 per lead, wow that is about $6 more per lead than me.

        Now some people will be like $9 per lead, oh my. Course when you figure out that one $1500 sale will pay for $150 lead packages it makes better sense.

        Tim
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        • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
          Originally Posted by TimCastleman View Post

          PPS: HBO had a free preview this weekend and at 3 am they had a show called Cathouse on. You can guess the content but one thing that struck me was how great these ladies where at selling their services to their clients. Their secrets - they listen to them, agree with them, and give them what they desire and are lacking in their life.

          Go figure.
          I read an interview with a former 'working girl' whose clientele was mostly middle-aged, married men. She said she was really surprised when she learned that many of her customers were not interested in sex. They mainly used their hour or two just talking. Having someone at least act genuinely interested in what they had to say was worth more than any mattress mambo.

          She figured that she actually made far more with her ears than with her, uh, lady bits.
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  • Profile picture of the author Debbie Songster
    One of our fellow warriors, Steve uses a online contact system that is great.
    I can speak from experience, it sold me.

    Nothing like getting a box of cookies in the mail. I've been the recipient of the mail campaign he uses on his clients.
    It worked on me.
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  • Profile picture of the author Debbie Songster
    Well there you go - you can get the info right from the man himself!

    Steve - J-o-o-m-l-a - lol couldn't resist
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    • Profile picture of the author TJ Kazunga
      Interesting idea. Not for me coz I'd probably eat them all before sending them out!

      Seriously, how many people consider PPC? I find that businesses are searching online for marketing help everyday. so are prime for PPC.
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      • Profile picture of the author Eric Stanley
        Originally Posted by TJ Kazunga View Post

        Interesting idea. Not for me coz I'd probably eat them all before sending them out!

        Seriously, how many people consider PPC? I find that businesses are searching online for marketing help everyday. so are prime for PPC.
        TJ, you're spot on. Every single local business could benefit from PPC in some way, shape, or form. Not sure if a highly specialized, one time plumber would benefit from an email list, well PPC surely would serve them well. SEO is just another service that you can manage for a client (setup + management fee) and its TRACKABLE! I love it and use it for my clients.
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        • Profile picture of the author TimCastleman
          Thanks to everyone who has PM'd me. I think I have responded to all.
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          • Profile picture of the author TimCastleman
            D'oh, my sausage fingers hit submit before I could add this.

            If you're interested in learning how to sell your services without having to be a pushy, slick haired salesman I can't recommend this book enough.

            THE SECRET OF SELLING ANYTHING
            by Harry Browne

            Breaks selling down to easy steps and makes you the adviser, not the salesman.
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            • Profile picture of the author bgmacaw
              Have you ever watched Glengarry Glen Ross, especially Alec Baldwin's A-B-C presentation?

              What about Boiler Room, especially Ben Ben Affleck's "There is no such thing as a no sale call" scene?

              Both scenes should be on YouTube for your viewing pleasure.

              The basic problem that most people have in face-to-face and phone sales is closing. You can schmooze all day long but if you don't close you don't make any money.
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              • Profile picture of the author duffmarketing
                I am currently testing out a prospecting technique that has a similar quality to yours but is very different. I started learning how to make videos a couple of months ago and decided I liked it and wanted it to be a big part of my search for offline gold. I'll still gladly build websites and set up email campaigns, etc., but I really wanted to focus on video (recently I got a $1000 video gig...no, not porn, lol).

                So what I'm doing might be like a "video cookie" I guess. I made a template of a video presentation that gives some info about what I'm doing, and has a little face time at the end with me thanking them, telling them to call me to sit down and talk, etc. I spent several hours on this template (which is obviously re-usable, being that it's a template).

                Then I make a 30 to 60 second demo video from the prospect's website content, insert it in the template, and email it to the prospect with a subject line that reads "(Company Name)'s Online Video is Complete and Ready to View" or something to that effect. That is an email that should get opened! In case it doesn't, I will follow up with a phone call to tell them to check their inbox or spam box.

                It's too early to tell how well this will work. I've only done one so far...had to do the follow up call because the owner was so busy he hadn't checked his email today or yesterday...however, he was very interested that I had done this and said he would look, and said to call him back next week.

                We'll see how the video cookie does and get back to ya.

                Steve

                [edit: I meant to also say that the reason it's like a video cookie, is that it probably takes about the same amount of time to construct a short video piece for a prospect as it does to make a batch of cookies... a little cheaper to deliver though, ]
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                • Profile picture of the author T.R. McCarroll
                  Steve @ Duff

                  What I have done is create a small flash video with "your town" type photo's and have been marketing to local real estate agents for their website. When people are looking for homes in this neighborhood they can click on this video to see the town, schools, shopping etc .... they are paying me a monthly licensing fee and I customize at the front and backend with the company name address and phone .. a quick 5 minute process since the video is already made .. I host the video and they are given the embed code for
                  placement .. billing is automatic off a credit card and I send them a card once a month thanking them and giving them the quick statistics on how many people clicked on the video plus asking for a referral.

                  Hope this might help you with another way to move into video.

                  Thom
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                  • Profile picture of the author duffmarketing
                    Originally Posted by WestCoastSandMan View Post

                    Steve @ Duff

                    What I have done is create a small flash video with "your town" type photo's and have been marketing to local real estate agents for their website. When people are looking for homes in this neighborhood they can click on this video to see the town, schools, shopping etc .... they are paying me a monthly licensing fee and I customize at the front and backend with the company name address and phone .. a quick 5 minute process since the video is already made .. I host the video and they are given the embed code for
                    placement .. billing is automatic off a credit card and I send them a card once a month thanking them and giving them the quick statistics on how many people clicked on the video plus asking for a referral.

                    Hope this might help you with another way to move into video.

                    Thom
                    I've thought about doing something like that here in Panama City Beach. How much per month licensing fee do you get (if you don't mind sharing)?

                    Thanks for the info!

                    Steve
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              • Profile picture of the author jnapier
                Originally Posted by bgmacaw View Post

                Have you ever watched Glengarry Glen Ross, especially Alec Baldwin's A-B-C presentation?

                What about Boiler Room, especially Ben Ben Affleck's "There is no such thing as a no sale call" scene?
                Both are great videos, but they do kinda put a spin on sales that might not be such a good spin. These are classic sales movies that I just love.

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  • Profile picture of the author dc006
    Good suggestions for offline marketing and referrals.
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  • Profile picture of the author Christie Love
    Great post. I'm sure you've helped a lot of people with this tread.
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  • Profile picture of the author intratec10
    Thanks Tim, more gold to add to the pot!!
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  • Profile picture of the author TimCastleman
    Someone had emailed me last night asking for some more advice on finding clients while conducting a seminar. Here was my response:


    Here is what I would do if I were in your shoes. I'd call up the local newspaper, tv, and radio sales reps and pitch them on the idea of putting together a small business expo. The premise would be that it would be a free expo to help small business owners grow their business. See if you can't find an author in town who has written on business. Mix the day up with real info on how to grow the business and then include sales pitches for each group - one on why newspaper advertising works, one on tv, one for you, etc.

    Get those sales people to contact people they have already sold to. Find a way to get someone to be the MC for the event or offer to do it yourself.

    Plan it out for a few months, send letters, phone calls, etc.

    Try to get 100 people (limit it) and then sell them at the place and afterwards.

    Of course you could just write a 50 page book on small business marketing, self publish it, send a press release to all the local media, get covered on the news and have people calling you as a result of that.

    Or you could just do a two step mailing where you offer that book you wrote for free to anyone who wants it, they write/call/email in, get the book and then you are an exepert and a published author.

    Or you could send an fax to all the local businesses asking them to do a marketing survey which would tell you everything you need to know about them. Then follow up with those who responded and tell them how you can help them make money.

    That's all I have off the top of my head.


    Of course if you need a list of those businesses I can get that for you
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    • Profile picture of the author AndrewCavanagh
      Originally Posted by TimCastleman View Post

      Someone had emailed me last night asking for some more advice on finding clients while conducting a seminar. Here was my response:


      Here is what I would do if I were in your shoes. I'd call up the local newspaper, tv, and radio sales reps and pitch them on the idea of putting together a small business expo. The premise would be that it would be a free expo to help small business owners grow their business. See if you can't find an author in town who has written on business. Mix the day up with real info on how to grow the business and then include sales pitches for each group - one on why newspaper advertising works, one on tv, one for you, etc.

      Get those sales people to contact people they have already sold to. Find a way to get someone to be the MC for the event or offer to do it yourself.

      Plan it out for a few months, send letters, phone calls, etc.

      Try to get 100 people (limit it) and then sell them at the place and afterwards.

      Of course you could just write a 50 page book on small business marketing, self publish it, send a press release to all the local media, get covered on the news and have people calling you as a result of that.

      Or you could just do a two step mailing where you offer that book you wrote for free to anyone who wants it, they write/call/email in, get the book and then you are an exepert and a published author.

      Or you could send an fax to all the local businesses asking them to do a marketing survey which would tell you everything you need to know about them. Then follow up with those who responded and tell them how you can help them make money.

      That's all I have off the top of my head.


      Of course if you need a list of those businesses I can get that for you


      I have to say as much as I LOVE the idea of running seminars to get clients people are starting to get more than a little stupid about it.

      First...if you have a list of potential clients don't screw around trying to get them to a seminar in the distant future then try to convert them from the seminar.

      Just use the contact to sell them on your services...you can send a letter, or a sales letter or an email, offer a gift consultation...whatever.

      The fastest way to get hired is just to get one on one with business owners.

      Running seminars makes a whole lot of sense if you already have a business networking group, rotary group, small business group or church who'll promote that seminar to their existing list of business owners for you.

      Then it's low effort on your part.

      But if you're going to start contacting businesses one at a time...just sell your services directly.

      You'll get hired a whole lot quicker with a lot less effort and risk.

      That's my opinion anyway.

      Kindest regards,
      Andrew Cavanagh
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  • Profile picture of the author Loren Woirhaye
    Hey guys - I suck at forum headlines so a thread I posted
    about Offline stuff got no response. I think it's relevant
    so I'd like anybody interested in this sort of "Cash Cow"
    stuff to have a look at it please, and give me feedback:

    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...where-tap.html
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      Originally Posted by TimCastleman View Post

      Someone had emailed me last night asking for some more advice on finding clients while conducting a seminar. Here was my response:


      Here is what I would do if I were in your shoes. I'd call up the local newspaper, tv, and radio sales reps and pitch them on the idea of putting together a small business expo. The premise would be that it would be a free expo to help small business owners grow their business. See if you can't find an author in town who has written on business. Mix the day up with real info on how to grow the business and then include sales pitches for each group - one on why newspaper advertising works, one on tv, one for you, etc.
      Excellent idea, Tim...

      Another idea would be to try to piggyback on local exhibitions, like boat shows, home and garden shows, etc. You might be able to get the promoter to let you give a free seminar as a bonus to people taking space at the show. I haven't actually done that yet, but I'm working on it.

      If you do the expo thing, I'm thinking you can make your own pitch more powerful by going last and adding a section on how testing quickly and cheaply online can make all the other guys' ads even better...
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  • Profile picture of the author zeke
    what kind of response rate have you got with this tactic.
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  • Profile picture of the author sammymar
    Tim,

    I just started using the WF, so I can't send you a PM. Could you send me a PM with the information on how to obtain the business lists?

    Thanks.

    Sam
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  • Profile picture of the author Maria Gudelis
    Nice Post Tim! I also bought your list and happy with that for one of my postcard campaigns! I'm trickling 50 per week out!

    What I do for a client I know has a big marketing budget (as in I can get at least a $5k contract with)...

    ...I send them a cake! Yes a Cake...with a TWIST

    I have the bakery put a design on the cake, making the top of the cake (the icing) look like a clock, and he uses icing to make it look like a 'piece' has been taken out of the cake - with the words:

    "Thanks for a Piece of Your Time"

    It really works like a gem! don't use this on a massive scale as the costs would be prohibitive...

    ...and the 'gate-keepers' of the office love you now! Unless they are on a diet

    ...and always remember you - oh' your that lady who sent us that cake!

    Use if for some clients that you already have (and can get more revenues....like "oh buy the way - wouldn't it be great if I get your customers on a video testimonial and put that on your webstite???)

    and for clients you are close to closing on a sale!

    You would be amazed at the doors this opens!

    I used to use this little 'sweet' tactic to get funding from venture capitalists for my software company! and simply carried it into the consulting business marketing.

    Cheers, Maria Gudelis
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    • Profile picture of the author 4morereferrals
      Ive been extolling this concept with cookies / brownies / carmels / chocolates and gift cards [ ad nauseum Im sure by now to some ], but - its on autopilot. ... and I get to include an even more unique marketing piece. Your right Maria, it kills about 5 birds with one stone ...

      1. It GETS OPENED - nearly 100%
      2. It gets read
      3. It gets remembered for the follow up calls
      4. It gets shared with the Gatekeepers of the decision makers
      5. It builds reporte'
      6. Bonus - it really stands out.

      IMHO - the way Im doing it can scale as well. I can send 1 or 500 a day. After 1 day of setup, design and improtation of names, I can drip feed em into a system - budget/time is the limitation.

      Chris - its really NOT complicated. If Im marketing offline to a niche, I cant go DRIVE BY a bunch of them in a day without burning gobs of fuel, time and frustration here in So Cal ... The idea of strolling into a strip mall to chat up a bunch of local store keeps clipboard and biz cards in hand - no thanks. You're right thats simple ok ...Agreed it will work. Some of us have traditional 8-5 careers putting six figures in the bank and arent ready to roll out on that just yet to become an SEO expert. There's more than one viable way to skin a ... whatever.

      The original CASH COW method talked about drafting a sales letter and sending it out and waiting for the phone to ring - nothing complex about that either - other than the hit rates suck with A10 envelopes. Perhaps I missed the secret recipe since I didnt buy the WSO/Webinar etc... on how they get the A10's opened and people ringing the phone # ?

      I dont shop everyday. I dont get a haircut everyday. I dont troll strip malls everyday. But Im on my puter everday. I can grab 10 Names, addresses and phone numbers from google in a niche, and feed it into a software system and hit .... SEND .... everyday. I can use the phone to follow up everyday too. I liked your concepts of driving them to the Awesome Sauce site you created .. that to me was a great SYSTEM.

      No right wrong way - just another "system". Strolling around haphazardly striking up convo's with biz owners is one way, a sustainable system??? Perhaps.



      Originally Posted by Maria Gudelis View Post

      Nice Post Tim! I also bought your list and happy with that for one of my postcard campaigns! I'm trickling 50 per week out!

      What I do for a client I know has a big marketing budget (as in I can get at least a $5k contract with)...

      ...I send them a cake! Yes a Cake...with a TWIST

      I have the bakery put a design on the cake, making the top of the cake (the icing) look like a clock, and he uses icing to make it look like a 'piece' has been taken out of the cake - with the words:

      "Thanks for a Piece of Your Time"

      It really works like a gem! don't use this on a massive scale as the costs would be prohibitive...

      ...and the 'gate-keepers' of the office love you now! Unless they are on a diet

      ...and always remember you - oh' your that lady who sent us that cake!

      Use if for some clients that you already have (and can get more revenues....like "oh buy the way - wouldn't it be great if I get your customers on a video testimonial and put that on your webstite???)

      and for clients you are close to closing on a sale!

      You would be amazed at the doors this opens!

      I used to use this little 'sweet' tactic to get funding from venture capitalists for my software company! and simply carried it into the consulting business marketing.

      Cheers, Maria Gudelis
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      • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
        Originally Posted by 3forTLC View Post

        Whoa John - sorry about your take on my first post! As I just said in my second one, nobody has to join the MLM as a business op. The PRODUCT is a great business marketing tool and since the thread was heavy on how to MARKET offline I was offering to show people how they can accomplish what they are talking about without it costing them $6 - $14 a pop and all the time in the kitchen baking cookies! And then they still didn't have an automatic marketing follow-up plan in place after all of their effort.

        Lighten up - I'm just trying to provide some help...and I didn't notice you jumping down Tim's throat for offering to sell people leads: "Nice Post Tim! I also bought your list and happy with that for one of my postcard campaigns! I'm trickling 50 per week out!"
        I usually don't react well when people join a conversation by passing out business cards. I've been following this thread for awhile, and when I clicked in to see what was new, the first thing I saw was post #1 from a new guy with no name, who appeared to be trolling for leads.

        To be fair, in going back and re-reading a few posts in sequence, your offer was relevant to the discussion. Which puts you way ahead of the drive-by promoters that get bounced out of here.

        Then Jay, who I first met years ago when I was involved with MLM, jumps in to say a lot of reps are already here...

        You tell me, was I wrong to smell something fishy?

        Of course, sometimes that fishy smell just turns out to be fish...

        PS - I didn't have to jump on Tim - others have already done it on other threads. Plus, it wasn't his very first post.
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        • Profile picture of the author altos
          This has been a really informative thread! Thanks to all the posters. I have narrowed down what I believe will be a good niche...I just have to go get some prospects now!! Hopefully using some of the techniques here will help me do that.
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        • Profile picture of the author 3forTLC
          Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post

          I usually don't react well when people join a conversation by passing out business cards. I've been following this thread for awhile, and when I clicked in to see what was new, the first thing I saw was post #1 from a new guy with no name, who appeared to be trolling for leads.

          To be fair, in going back and re-reading a few posts in sequence, your offer was relevant to the discussion. Which puts you way ahead of the drive-by promoters that get bounced out of here.

          Then Jay, who I first met years ago when I was involved with MLM, jumps in to say a lot of reps are already here...

          You tell me, was I wrong to smell something fishy?

          Of course, sometimes that fishy smell just turns out to be fish...

          PS - I didn't have to jump on Tim - others have already done it on other threads. Plus, it wasn't his very first post.
          Hey John, I can see your point and thanks for the comment that my post was indeed relevant.

          I may be biased in the offline area - our main (20+ yrs) business is direct mail and I really understand that world of marketing. We used to have all of our employees keep a box of "thank you" cards and "Sorry" cards by their computer so they could immediately send a note to a customer who said something nice about us or a "sorry" card if we made a mistake - it made a huge impact and we have a solid core of die-hard customers.

          I've already learned so much about IM just reading posts; to me it's a tougher area because of the lack of connection with customers. Much to learn. Been basically retired for over 10 years - I have the 4 hour work-month! After building our business on the east coast for 10 years decided we wanted to live on the west coast and up and moved and created a west coast branch in the span of about a month...our employees were kinda shell-shocked but it worked out great!

          So I'm hoping to add value to the discussions and share what I know. BTW, this "guy" is an "old gal"
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          • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
            Originally Posted by 3forTLC View Post

            So I'm hoping to add value to the discussions and share what I know. BTW, this "guy" is an "old gal"
            Sorry about that, ma'am...
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    • Profile picture of the author 3forTLC
      Originally Posted by Maria Gudelis View Post

      Nice Post Tim! I also bought your list and happy with that for one of my postcard campaigns! I'm trickling 50 per week out!

      What I do for a client I know has a big marketing budget (as in I can get at least a $5k contract with)...

      ...I send them a cake! Yes a Cake...with a TWIST

      I have the bakery put a design on the cake, making the top of the cake (the icing) look like a clock, and he uses icing to make it look like a 'piece' has been taken out of the cake - with the words:

      "Thanks for a Piece of Your Time"

      It really works like a gem! don't use this on a massive scale as the costs would be prohibitive...

      ...and the 'gate-keepers' of the office love you now! Unless they are on a diet

      ...and always remember you - oh' your that lady who sent us that cake!

      Use if for some clients that you already have (and can get more revenues....like "oh buy the way - wouldn't it be great if I get your customers on a video testimonial and put that on your webstite???)

      and for clients you are close to closing on a sale!

      You would be amazed at the doors this opens!

      I used to use this little 'sweet' tactic to get funding from venture capitalists for my software company! and simply carried it into the consulting business marketing.

      Cheers, Maria Gudelis
      I absolutely love this idea for potential "big" clients!

      And your comment "...wouldn't it be great if I get your customers on a video testimonial and put that on your webstite???" is nothing short of brilliant! We have friends who own a retail store with lots of unique items in a mainly tourist location that is dying on the vine...people love the store and come back year after year, but less and less actually buy anything. They had $58 in sales the other day and need about $1,000 a day to pay the bills. They actually have people write down the manufacturer name and say in front of them that they'll look for it online when they get home.

      We (hubby and I) are trying to help them move to an online presence and the little video clips would be a great idea! They have a website, but it's so old it's pathetic, and never updated.

      30 years in the same location and they have no customer data, except their old UPS logs. So we're getting them to start getting those names and addresses into the computer.

      The thing I keep coming back to in my own head in this discussion about how to find clients for offline marketing is that there are lots of people like our friends in brick and mortar businesses that will be resistant to seeing their website as the best thing they can put their money into for advertising - because that's not their area of expertise. I'd suggest a hybrid approach...while telling them how you can help improve their website give them some concrete ideas for their offline business.

      Suggest they work out a JV with a non-competing business to give each others business cards to every customer - with 10% off or some other special offer? You don't have to do the work, just give them the idea. And then offer to also put it on their website.

      What about capturing e-mail addresses and/or mailing addresses of the people who walk into their business? Whether they buy something or not, a "give-away" item in exchange for their info, or an entry into a drawing for a big ticket item may work. Again, no work for you but an idea for them.

      My point here is that you'll grab more attention with brick and mortar businesses up-front with some ideas for them to implement "hands-on" in their business while then selling them on the web site improvements. Talk to them in a language they understand, tie it into how it will help their IM and you'll have a greater response rate.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Endres
    Why make such a simple thing so complicated? Seriously.

    I went and got a haircut this morning. No Joke.

    No cookies,.. complicated plan. Just a business card in my wallet.

    I got a great haircut and walked out with a new account. Why?

    I don't sell. I teach. When you offer information people want anyway you don't have to go through all the hoops.

    I was asked, "How are you doing today"

    and I said "Great. I am just a couple days away from launching a product on the internet..."

    Where do you think the conversation went from there?

    I am not disparaging your method but I really think it is possible you are resisting how easy this can be

    Cheers Mate

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    • Profile picture of the author Keith Boisvert
      Originally Posted by Chris Endres View Post

      Why make such a simple thing so complicated? Seriously.

      I went and got a haircut this morning. No Joke.

      No cookies,.. complicated plan. Just a business card in my wallet.

      I got a great haircut and walked out with a new account. Why?

      I don't sell. I teach. When you offer information people want anyway you don't have to go through all the hoops.

      I was asked, "How are you doing today"

      and I said "Great. I am just a couple days away from launching a product on the internet..."

      Where do you think the conversation went from there?

      I am not disparaging your method but I really think it is possible you are resisting how easy this can be

      Cheers Mate

      Chris Endres
      Well said. Everyone makes a big deal about every little thing. Look, there is always more to learn, but how much time can you spend learning? You will always (and should always) be learning. But get out and do it.

      I always preach about talking about yourself and your business when applicable. Sales WILL come from that! So with a business card and an open mouth you can get customers just by doing things you already do!

      Again, great post.

      keith
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      • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
        Originally Posted by Keith Boisvert View Post

        Well said. Everyone makes a big deal about every little thing. Look, there is always more to learn, but how much time can you spend learning? You will always (and should always) be learning. But get out and do it.

        I always preach about talking about yourself and your business when applicable. Sales WILL come from that! So with a business card and an open mouth you can get customers just by doing things you already do!

        Again, great post.

        keith
        Good reminder, well timed.

        Back in engineering school, one of my profs would often interrupt me. "John," he'd say, "I asked you what time it was, not how to build a watch..."

        Fast forward a few years. I'm working for a small manufacturer, working on a new product design. The team gets a promising idea. While I'm busy doing some very complex simulations and modeling, my boss goes down to the lab, builds one by hand and runs a test. My simulations say it should work perfectly, the hunk of twisted metal on my desk said otherwise...

        All the discussion, brainstorming and analysis in the world can't take the place of just trying something to see if it works.
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  • Profile picture of the author ryanmacca
    Thanks so much for your tips.
    I have heard a lot about this and at the moment it is still a little out of my league. But in a few years it could definately be a great way to make money.
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  • Profile picture of the author GetStreetSmart
    Intersesting way to find business - very out of the box thinking - congrats!
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    • Profile picture of the author jnapier
      Originally Posted by 3forTLC View Post

      Hello all - I'm new to the Warrior Forum but have been doing lots of reading. Came across this thread today.

      What all of you are talking about is exactly what the MLM that I belong to does exceptionally well. Send cookies or brownies (cello wrapped!) along with a personalized card; set up an automatic marketing system for follow-up cards and/or postcards. It's ideal for businesses and I got involved with it originally so that I could use it with my business to keep in touch with customers! For a quick preview send me a PM - I need 15 posts in order to give you the direct link - and you can send up to 3 free (including postage!) cards on me to check it out. I'd be happy to walk any of you through the specifics of it - but it is an ideal way (and very reasonable in cost) to do exactly what you are talking about!
      YeP! And many of your top reps are regulars on the forum.

      JN
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      • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
        Originally Posted by 3forTLC View Post

        Hello all - I'm new to the Warrior Forum but have been doing lots of reading. Came across this thread today.

        What all of you are talking about is exactly what the MLM that I belong to does exceptionally well. Send cookies or brownies (cello wrapped!) along with a personalized card; set up an automatic marketing system for follow-up cards and/or postcards. It's ideal for businesses and I got involved with it originally so that I could use it with my business to keep in touch with customers! For a quick preview send me a PM - I need 15 posts in order to give you the direct link - and you can send up to 3 free (including postage!) cards on me to check it out. I'd be happy to walk any of you through the specifics of it - but it is an ideal way (and very reasonable in cost) to do exactly what you are talking about!
        3forTLC, you've made a classic WF newbie move. Your very first post reads more like an ad than an offer of value. I send you a PM and you walk me through your biz-op presentation? Wow, thanks!:rolleyes:

        Originally Posted by jnapier View Post

        YeP! And many of your top reps are regulars on the forum.

        JN
        Jay, might you by chance be one of those top reps?

        By the way, I think the red queen is the one on the left...
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        • Profile picture of the author Steve Solem
          Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post

          3forTLC, you've made a classic WF newbie move. Your very first post reads more like an ad than an offer of value. I send you a PM and you walk me through your biz-op presentation? Wow, thanks!:rolleyes:


          Jay, might you by chance be one of those top reps?

          By the way, I think the red queen is the one on the left...
          Have to agree with John here as a noob to this forum but an old hat on many others - even if your product or service is the answer to the members dreams, at least take some time to get to know them first before making a sales pitch to do business with them. I'd ask a stranger I just met for a drink before asking her to marry me, and while asking someone to marry you just may work occasionally, I think you'll endup with more and better prospects if you take your time to get to know someone over time instead of all at once.

          Oh, and as Jay mentioned - you may want to take time to read other posts in a thread to see how many other times it's come up and who else is invloved before you jump right in and step on any toes.

          And yes, I'm involved with said company too, but I know it's been discussed here by others so I respectfully try to keep a low profile myself.

          Cheers,

          Steve

          P.S. It also helps when new to use your name in your post if it's not a part of your username on the forum. Being anonymous doesn't really help those you need to develop trust with before they'll buy from you.
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          • Profile picture of the author 3forTLC
            Originally Posted by Steve Solem View Post

            Have to agree with John here as a noob to this forum but an old hat on many others - even if your product or service is the answer to the members dreams, at least take some time to get to know them first before making a sales pitch to do business with them. I'd ask a stranger I just met for a drink before asking her to marry me, and while asking someone to marry you just may work occasionally, I think you'll endup with more and better prospects if you take your time to get to know someone over time instead of all at once.

            Oh, and as Jay mentioned - you may want to take time to read other posts in a thread to see how many other times it's come up and who else is invloved before you jump right in and step on any toes.

            And yes, I'm involved with said company too, but I know it's been discussed here by others so I respectfully try to keep a low profile myself.

            Cheers,

            Steve

            P.S. It also helps when new to use your name in your post if it's not a part of your username on the forum. Being anonymous doesn't really help those you need to develop trust with before they'll buy from you.
            Thanks for your comments, Steve. I was in the middle of making dinner and made a post without thinking about how it came off...actually I could care less about "making a sale" - I only joined said company so I could use the product in my (multiple) businesses and joining as a marketer made sense because signing up my own companies basically got me a rebate for them using it.

            I've been working for 45 years and a business owner for over 30 years and I contribute my time and effort to help a bunch of offline companies that are in deep trouble right now in this economy figure out how to market themselves and/or their products in new ways both online and off. I get excited when I see something that can be helpful to someone else and in this case just jumped in.

            Thanks for being gentle in "slapping my hand" - I don't think anyone responds well to accusations especially when they were just trying to help others.

            Cheers!
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          • Profile picture of the author 3forTLC
            Originally Posted by Steve Solem View Post

            ...Oh, and as Jay mentioned - you may want to take time to read other posts in a thread to see how many other times it's come up and who else is invloved before you jump right in and step on any toes.


            Cheers,

            Steve

            P.S. It also helps when new to use your name in your post if it's not a part of your username on the forum. Being anonymous doesn't really help those you need to develop trust with before they'll buy from you.
            BTW, I had read ALL of the posts in this thread before I posted and everyone was talking about baking cookies and sending letters and no one talked about any kind of system for doing all of this marketing.

            And I'm afraid to use my real name with all fire and brimstone that was thrown at me! But I am willing to admit to being an "old gal" not a guy! LOL
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  • Profile picture of the author yaz8888
    This is an area that scares most people...They immediately think of cold calling.
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  • Profile picture of the author Crash878
    there is nothing like the personal touch to reach your clients!!
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  • Profile picture of the author Frank Bruno
    I'm really sucking in as much offline marketing info. I can get as this is an interiley new area for me that I will be incorporating into my business.

    I've noticed there are different tactics that you can use for lead generation and closing but the fundational fundmentals seem to be all the same.

    I don't know if others are having the same issue as I am but It seems to me that deciding exactly what I'll be offering clients as far as packages and services and the technical logistic aspects of setting it all up is what I'm trying to decide on before I jump in.

    Some reports I've read there is mention of giving away free websites worth $10,000 but I don't see how that will work as noboday would pay that much when they find out it would be a template based website when they make their selection.

    I'm sure I can think of a spin on it though...

    I would be interested to hear what others have come up with for the type of packages they offer their clients?

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    • Profile picture of the author 3forTLC
      Frank, was the comment:

      "Wow the nerve of some people to blatenly hyjack a thread.

      It leaves me wondering what kind of impression this person would leave me in an offline enviroment If I was approached by the same individual.... kind of gives me the shivers...."


      directed at me?

      If so, I again feel the need to defend myself. Marketing is marketing and whether it's to your existing customers or you're looking to find new customers. The thread is titled "Offline Marketing - How to Find Clients." I happen to really like the system I use and think it would help any business or business person with their marketing efforts and it does every single thing that everyone was talking about - but they were talking about baking cookies and doing it themselves and it costing $6-$14 a pop, etc., etc.

      People all over this forum mention products that they sell, or are an affiliate for, to fill a need being discussed. I wonder if the discussion had been about capturing e-mail addresses and people were talking about all the ways they were doing it for themselves and I had chimed in with telling people about how an autoresponder system would do it for them easier and cheaper than the methods they were talking about. Would everyone be jumping down my throat?

      I was upfront about it being part of an MLM - you don't have to join it as a business op, you can just use the product, but it's only available through it. I'd rather it just be a product to offer, but I don't make the rules for their business model.

      I did a quick post because I was in the middle of making dinner and in retrospect it may have come off poorly to some in its brevity. For that I apologize (again). I'm looking to add to the discussion and tell others what has worked for and helped me. Can we call a truce? I'm a nice person - really!

      As to other ideas for finding offline businesses to market to I use the local paper to see who is spending money on advertising...in this economy it's easier to approach people who are still spending money on advertising.

      A lead-in, whether in-person or via mail, asking about their advertising ROI is a good ice breaker. Most brick and mortar businesses have no idea what return their advertising dollars are getting them. That usually gets their attention.

      As I said in another post, talking to them in a language they understand and giving them some free tips that they themselves can implement gives you instant credibility and they will be much more receptive to your talking to them about their IM. Establishing repoire is more important in the offline world; they spend almost all of their time face-to-face with customers, vendors, etc. and that's how they're used to doing business.

      You need to approach them in the way that they're used to doing business. A few years ago we were trying to develop a business venture with a factory in Poland. We had to fly there, look them in the eye and shake their hand in order to get the deal done. In the U.S. it all would have been accomplished via phone and fax in a matter of days. But that is not the way it's done in Poland. So we hopped on a plane, spent a couple of hours at a conference table face-to-face and closed a million dollar a year deal.

      Understanding your customer and the way they do business will go a long way in offline marketing.
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  • Profile picture of the author a2dsilva
    Tim, I implemented this yesterday and this has helped me become so much more organized and I;ve started to break down the process each day to build my list.

    I am documenting my process right now and will be handing to to my Virtual Assistant to carry out the steps to the "t".

    Thank You
    Originally Posted by TimCastleman View Post

    There have been a ton of great threads on the offline marketing field recently and I wanted to add my two cents.

    The biggest problem is trying to find clients that match your skills. Say you want to do websites for local businesses or only deal with companies that already have websites but need rebuilding or add-ons (email capture, event calendars, better SEO, etc).

    First, I only want to work with companies who are already advertising. Why, because I hate leading a horse to water, I want them at the trough already, just thirsty for my services. Second, I don't want to education someone on the importance of advertising, I want them to understand that when we meet.

    So how do I find these customers you might ask? It's really easy, all it takes is your eyes, a pad of paper and pen. This is exactly what I do...

    1st. I flip through the newspaper everyday. I cut out or make note of any ads from local - mom and pop type businesses.

    2nd. I listen to the radio, any local, non huge company that runs an ad I make a note of on the pad at a stop light. I tried that once while driving and lets just say the police aren't too fond of it.

    3rd. I go through the yellow pages every year and do the same thing as above.

    4th. I look at static advertising (billboards, signs, etc). Again more notes.

    Now that I have a list I start looking at what I can offer them and divide them into two sections.

    1. companies with websites

    2. companies without websites

    Now I look at companies and decide who is worth going after. After all if you're charging $1500 to get started and you're trying to pitch it to a 99 cent store it might be an uphill climb. So I focus on businesses that with a few extra sales (like less than one or two a month) can pay for the cost of my services.

    See I may start off with a list of a couple of hundred businesses but after going over them I have it down to a hundred or less. Why, because I'd rather focus like a laser instead of spray and pray all these businesses.

    Now there are a ton of ways to approach these companies. I don't like cold calling and the thought of walking into a business to pitch them without being invited is not for me. So what do I do?

    I bake. I know, not really macho I know but I can make some mean cookies. I make a dozen of them and mail them along with a simple intro letter requesting a few minutes of their time (insert David's letter here).

    Let me back up here and tell you how I find out the companies information. I use to use Info USA or Goleads.com or a place like that. It was great but it cost me hundreds.

    I have since found a listing of 99.9% of the businesses in the US that was for sale. The list is great cause it comes with all the stuff you need - business name, address, phone number, fax, website address, owners first and last name and business category they are in. If you want more info or a list shoot me a PM. I'm tired of talking about it, back to making money.

    So now I have a targeted group of people, all their contact info, so what is the next step.

    Baking. That's right I said it, I am a man and I bake. Ok really my soon to be wife bakes and I pay her back with lovin. So really it is a lose lose deal for her. Where was I, oh yes making money.

    So I bake these cookies and mail them to the place. I know it cost more than a letter but if you had your choice between a simple letter or a package that smelt like grandmothers house which are going to open.

    So they open the package, eat the cookies, read the letter and give me a call.

    What happens if they don't call. Well that is where I follow up marketing comes into place.

    This post is long enough for now, quick review.

    1. Only deal with businesses that are already doing some form of marketing (yellow pages, tv, radio, newspaper, etc)

    2. Put the companies into two catagories - with or without website

    3. Go through the list again and cherry pick the ones you think can afford your services or that you are interested in.

    4. Get a list of their contact info

    5. Mail them a package instead just a letter. If you have to go cheap I understand but with less targets you can afford to spend a little more. If you really need to roll out your mailing - meaning send out 10 at a time or a one a day or whatever until you make your sale and then you can send out two a day, etc.

    6. If no response continue to mail to them over the course of at least 3 months, one time per month. You can even pick up the phone if needed - I know I know, I hate the phone call to but it is a warmer call cause they will remember the cookies or coffee you send them.

    I hope this helps some people with a laid out, paint by the numbers, simple plan.

    Tim
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  • Profile picture of the author twomasters
    The offline market is very interesting. When I go to see customers my attitude is trying to help. In many cases they have never heard about auto-responders - and you cannot explain it either.
    What I do is sell hot lead capturing and follow-up - all automatically.
    That works for me.
    Cor
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