Need help with Joomla site - Can this be done?

by KimBeckers 32 replies
Hi Fellow Warriors,

I am setting up a membership using Joomla; I am using Account Expiration Control Component and FireBoard.

It is a membership that has articles; I would LOVE have a page set up where people would see the first paragraph of each of the articles. Then they would see the word "more". Then when they click on "more", if they are not members, they would be taken to a page that reminds them to subscribe and has a subscription link. Is it possible to set something like this up using Joomla? Does anybody know how to do this?

Thank you,
Kim
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  • Profile picture of the author Jesus Perez
    This guy looks like he's figured it out.

    Joomla WSO - Membership Site CMS
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    • Profile picture of the author KimBeckers
      Yes,
      This is excalty what I want to do, do you know who this is?

      Thanks,
      Kim
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      • Profile picture of the author Jesus Perez
        No idea. I just found it via google. Look around for reviews first or try shooting an email to be safe.
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        • Profile picture of the author KimBeckers
          Thank you, What search terms did you use to look for this though? I was not sure how to put it into a search term or two in order to do a search for it on Google. I am not sure if this is an extention from Joomla or custom programming?

          thanks,
          kim
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          • Profile picture of the author Jesus Perez
            Originally Posted by elusions View Post

            Thank you, What search terms did you use to look for this though? I was not sure how to put it into a search term or two in order to do a search for it on Google. I am not sure if this is an extention from Joomla or custom programming?

            thanks,
            kim
            joomla membership tease - Google Search

            Second hit. It seems like a custom solution that they install for you. Probably a module of some kind.
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            • Profile picture of the author Jesus Perez
              I should mention that I am currently testing out Caribou and it has this functionality by default. It also integrates with PhpBB and vBulletin. It's free for the first 100 registered users (I'm not affiliated in any way)
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              • Profile picture of the author Lloyd Lopes
                Yo - the person is me :-) Just in case anyone was wondering...

                The teaser text can be implemented either through the JACL component or through a mambot (which is what I use). The mambot is called "Access to text" -- I'll try and dig up the site for you.

                My membership site solution has it all integrated though,in case you're feeling lazy. ;-)

                Hope that helps
                Cheers!
                Lloyd
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              • Profile picture of the author Tiger
                Not only can it be done, it is an integral part of joomla.

                The super administrator can assign a level of permission to most anything
                on a page.


                The articles can be set up with a "read more" link, that leads to a
                page that can have that subscription module based on the "menus"
                assignment. (Menus can be set to show on just certain pages or on
                all.)



                The subscription module can be set to "public" so all can see it
                or it can be set to other permissions so that only signed-in
                members can see it. Most everything can be set with permissions.


                Hope that helps.


                /Steve
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      • Profile picture of the author Scott Burton
        Originally Posted by elusions View Post

        Yes,
        This is excalty what I want to do, do you know who this is?

        Thanks,
        Kim
        This would be Lloyd Lopes I believe.

        On the old forum I was discussing this very WSO with him briefly.

        [Edit: I replied to this before finishing the thread. So I guess I should've known LLoyd would notice a Joomla Question and jump in here.]
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  • Profile picture of the author Simplweb
    Originally Posted by elusions View Post

    Hi Fellow Warriors,
    It is a membership that has articles; I would LOVE have a page set up where people would see the first paragraph of each of the articles. Then they would see the word "more". Then when they click on "more", if they are not members, they would be taken to a page that reminds them to subscribe and has a subscription link. Is it possible to set something like this up using Joomla?
    Steve is correct, this is the built in behavior of Joomla....

    Now, here is the tricky part.. money (isn't it always )

    I assume you want people to PAY for becoming a member. You probably also want them to stop having access when their subscription expires.

    This is the part you need a third party extension for. There are a few current options:
    JoomSuite Member - Pay To Access -
    https://globalnerd.org/
    SubscriptionDELUXE | ElearningForce

    And one coming soon:
    Joomlapolis - The home of Community Builder - Paid subscriptions CB plugin status
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    • Profile picture of the author KimBeckers
      Originally Posted by Simplweb View Post

      Steve is correct, this is the built in behavior of Joomla....

      Now, here is the tricky part.. money (isn't it always )

      I assume you want people to PAY for becoming a member. You probably also want them to stop having access when their subscription expires.

      This is the part you need a third party extension for. There are a few current options:
      JoomSuite Member - Pay To Access -
      https://globalnerd.org/
      SubscriptionDELUXE | ElearningForce

      And one coming soon:
      Joomlapolis - The home of Community Builder - Paid subscriptions CB plugin status

      yes, that is correct, I actually already have this one installed https://globalnerd.org/ but I am not sure how I can use this to control the article content with the more link to the membership. Is there another extension that I need to install as well?
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      • Profile picture of the author Jesus Perez
        Originally Posted by elusions View Post

        yes, that is correct, I actually already have this one installed https://globalnerd.org/ but I am not sure how I can use this to control the article content with the more link to the membership. Is there another extension that I need to install as well?
        You've hit the wall. Joomla is extremely limited in this aspect. It was never created to support a pay-membership environment. And I think the responses in this thread have been the most helpful I've seen on this website so far.

        I love Joomla and actively use it, but had to give it up for my membership site. I'm currently testing the hell out of Caribou to see if it will do the trick. So far it has. I know...it's $199 after the 100th registered user. But by then, I'll know whether the site is profitable or not. And hopefully I'll be able to pay for the subscription 5 times over before then.

        One of the above must be the answer to your problems. Unfortunately, you'll have to dish out some money. And that's the cost of doing business with Joomla developers. Maybe you can work out a multiple-site discount?

        If you're looking for a free (or low cost) way to do this...there isn't. I've looked...and I was disappointed. Maybe you should briefly check out Drupal? They might have other options as well.
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        • Profile picture of the author KimBeckers
          Thanks for your thoughts everyone, I guess I have some things to consider before making a decision.
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        • Profile picture of the author Simplweb
          Originally Posted by BlueSquares View Post

          Joomla is extremely limited in this aspect. It was never created to support a pay-membership environment. And I think the responses in this thread have been the most helpful I've seen on this website so far.
          There is hope...

          I am in a closed beta for a Joomla solution which provides very powerful paid subscription.

          Once that is out of beta, it will be closely followed by a turnkey hosted version of it....

          /eyes wander to his signature.....
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          • Profile picture of the author KimBeckers
            well, thats good to know, keep us posted. thanks :-) Kim
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            • Profile picture of the author Lloyd Lopes
              Joomla 1.0 is rock solid , has been through years of testing and bug fixing and is realible.

              Joomla 1.5 , well , is a bit of a mess right now. You install it , you have the bugs of the normal program , as well as the bugs of the components built for the program , as well as the bugs integrating all of these components , as well as the bigs of the normal program when the upgrade it , as well as the bugs of the components when the upgrade the normal program , as well as the bugs that are created when you mesh upgraded components.

              I need solutions that work for me today - not in 5 months time when Joomla 1.5 is stable. 1.0 provides all the functionality I need , and I'm not moving anywhere for a while.

              That , however , is a business decision , and many developers like simpleweb will happily install 1.5 and spend the time fixing the issues themselves , and repeating the process when upgrades happen. They , however , will fix problems fairly quickly and can actually fix the problems.

              For normal users , it is the kiss of death and they usually move to another more stable CMS.

              @Tiger - I meant controlling the individual bits of information and pictures on any given page. Not the page itself. And not modules in pages - the actual text.....

              My suggestion is to use Joomla 1.015 , JACL , AEC and the Access to text Mambot. It would do exactly what you require.

              AEC installs and works on 1.5 - but does not play nicely with other components - as well as being unstable , insecure and generally buggy..

              Hope that helps
              Cheers!
              Lloyd
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              • Profile picture of the author KimBeckers
                Thanks Lloyd,
                I am going to give it a go, I was not really keen on upgrading to Version 1.5 yet anyway due to the issues you described.

                Thanks for your input, I am going to give it a try.
                kim
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              • Profile picture of the author Tiger
                Originally Posted by Lloyd Lopes View Post


                @Tiger - I meant controlling the individual bits of information and pictures on any given page. Not the page itself. And not modules in pages - the actual text.....

                That is what I meant also, access levels are given to objects, such
                as logins, modules on a page, etc. Certain things just wont show up on
                a page if a person does not have access. The administrator has
                control over the text with the HTML module and its access levels, plus
                all articles are assigned access levels.


                Version 1.5 was called stable months ago by the joomla development
                team.

                Thanks !


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                • Profile picture of the author Lloyd Lopes
                  Originally Posted by Tiger View Post

                  The administrator has control over the text with the HTML module and its access levels, plus all articles are assigned access levels.


                  Version 1.5 was called stable months ago by the joomla development
                  team.

                  Thanks !


                  /Steve
                  Ah OK - thats pretty cool :-)

                  The 1.5 system is sort of stable - just because the joomla team said it is doesn't mean it won't give you problems and generally cause carnage. If anyone wanted just the Joomla core and some design sure - go 1.5. Problem is , they come back with the " Can I add this or that component" question , and as soon as that happens then you have the nightmare of trying to integrate all the stuff.

                  Joomla , as I see it , cannot be put out there on its own. The extensibility is one of the main points of using the software in the first place.

                  Case in point - yesterday I needed a site to work with AEC and the metaweb plugin to use Live writer with. Those were the only two requirements. The two conflicted ( Trust my luck ) because AEC runs in legacy.

                  I used 1.015 and my problems vanished and the customer was happy.
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              • Profile picture of the author Simplweb
                Originally Posted by Lloyd Lopes View Post

                developers like simpleweb will happily install 1.5 and spend the time fixing the issues themselves , and repeating the process when upgrades happen. They , however , will fix problems fairly quickly and can actually fix the problems.

                For normal users , it is the kiss of death and they usually move to another more stable CMS.
                I'd say 1.5 is pretty stable, I have about 847 users with Joomla 1.5 sites with no real issues.

                There might be some truth in stability of extensions, but why build a site that is going to be legacy and no longer supported in 6 months. THAT doesn't seem like a wise business decision. Bear in mind... migrating from 1.0 to 1.5 IS VERY difficult.
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                • Profile picture of the author jensrsa
                  Hi Kim,

                  Came across Joomihide plugin in Joomla Extentions which seems to do what you want
                  JoomiHide is a Joomla Plugin that will restrict any part of an article or content to registered users only. All you have to do is just insert the "reg" or "unreg" string into your joomla text/content then the text within the "reg" tags will be showed to only the registered users and the text within the "unreg" tags will be showed to only guests
                  It's Joomla 1.5 Native and not free - $2.99

                  JoomiHide Joomla Plugin - Hide Portions Of Your Joomla Content

                  Jens
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                • Profile picture of the author Lloyd Lopes
                  Originally Posted by Simplweb View Post

                  I'd say 1.5 is pretty stable, I have about 847 users with Joomla 1.5 sites with no real issues.

                  There might be some truth in stability of extensions, but why build a site that is going to be legacy and no longer supported in 6 months. THAT doesn't seem like a wise business decision. Bear in mind... migrating from 1.0 to 1.5 IS VERY difficult.
                  As apposed to what? Having a system that doesn't work properly and one that irritates people as opposed to a system which does work and does the job? Imagine if an amateur decided to put up 1.5 and ran across your 404 bug. What would he do? He would probably just ditch it.

                  The 847 people who do use it - how do they use it? What extensions to they install , and what support do you provide? I'm guessing they don't get your individual attention...just from the numbers.

                  I hear you on the upgrading issue. Its not a piece of cake. But why not come across that bridge when it arrives , rather than worry about support which will still be strong for the foreseeable future? ( I give it maybe 2-3 years ).

                  And in any event , support is usually given from unknown sources and is a "best effort" service given out as a freebie....its almost as good as not supported at all for a semi-mission-critical business.

                  After all , this is software....so people will have to upgrade at some point...no matter how difficult it is.But right now upgrading or starting with the new software will cause them more harm than good...

                  This is an opened ended thing - there are pros and cons and I'm not debunking your approach....but I kind of need something to work when I build it....
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