How many WF Members AREN'T Targeting the IM Niche

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I personally think that the IM niche seems to be the easy option for a lot of people and just wandered who is targeting niches OUT of the IM niche.

If you don't want, you don't have to enclose what that niche is. Just interested.
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  • Profile picture of the author AmandaT
    It only feels easy because we are on WF which is full of IMers and IM products. I have way more luck with other niches both in sales and better refund rates.

    I do dabble in the IM niche. I have a PLR store and a blog about affiliate marketing, but I make pennies with those compared to my niches outside of IM.
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  • Profile picture of the author manicmethods
    I've noticed higher refund rates in the IM niche, ESPECIALLY with Clickbank products, I believe it's due to the fact that IMers know how easy it is to get a refund on Clickbank etc.
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  • Profile picture of the author fin
    I think most people starting in IM want to try and push their dream on others.

    I know thats what I did, and to this day, I still don't know why other people didn't want to share my dream.

    I'll definitely tackle the IM niche again, after I am earning a passive income in other niches, as at the end of the day, I want people to share my dream.
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    • Profile picture of the author Tina Golden
      I'm in six niches outside of IM. I make the bulk of my income with PLR creation, though.
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  • Profile picture of the author abrahamgpg
    @Fin, That's good advice. Go for outside IM first and when you earn a respectable passive income, (first repeat to make more passive income) then come back to IM.

    I made that mistake when I started. I've gone to IM first...BAD Mistake.
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  • Profile picture of the author helisell
    7 Years and barely dabbled (not even dabbled really) in IM

    Over 100,000 subscribers in my main niche though open
    rates are reducing (dang....wish I'd fully segregated my list
    right from the beginning) (note to self...'picture your
    business 7 years from now with a fully segregated list)
    (note to self 2....get on with segregation NOW)

    Sorry I'm beating myself up!
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  • Profile picture of the author TheInternet
    Here's the process I imagine most new IMers go through:
    • Read and learn about IM
    • Start an IM blog because you suddenly know a lot about it
    • Forget why you started learning about IM
    • Fail because you don't know anywhere near as much as all the established players
    • Give up

    Most non-IM blogs seem to emerge naturally, where the creator just had a good sense of community building, or already had real-world experience in marketing and business.
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    • Profile picture of the author redfieryheart
      Originally Posted by TheInternet View Post

      Here's the process I imagine most new IMers go through:
      • Read and learn about IM
      • Start an IM blog because you suddenly know a lot about it
      • Forget why you started learning about IM
      • Fail because you don't know anywhere near as much as all the established players
      • Give up

      Most non-IM blogs seem to emerge naturally, where the creator just had a good sense of community building, or already had real-world experience in marketing and business.
      This is where I am starting right now, I don't know how many months should I wait before I can see positive results. But I have time to devote and hang on to my patience and wishing I will hit the right method.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jon Patrick
    My main ClickBank product has nothing to do with IM. There is a whole world of niches out there, and tons of them are profitable. IM products are only one small slice of the larger pie.
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    • Profile picture of the author Michael Shook
      Three of my biggest and most profitable sites have nothing to do with MMO. I think MMO is a great market, and there are many other great markets too.
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  • Profile picture of the author TheRichLife
    I don't do anything in IM. I have no interest in marketing to marketers, and probably never will.
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  • Profile picture of the author BloggingPro
    I have one website in the "IM" niche. More like a sub-niche of IM, but you get the idea.

    For a majority of my sites, I promote women's high heels. I have a list in this niche and do quite well for myself. I will soon be building sites targeting Halloween costume keywords and banking hard next year with affiliate marketing.

    I don't really have a desire to get into the IM niche outside of my keyword research gig I do every now and again. It's fun, but building a website, outsourcing the SEO and sitting back to watch the passive income pour in is much more exciting.
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  • Profile picture of the author art72
    My main focus is way outside the IM niche, and yet (both my sigs) are IM related.

    OK, I surrender, I'm all over the place!

    Seriously though, I think it's hard NOT to share what you're learning from this forum as far as tools, resources, and training, as that is absolutely required for nearly any online business.

    As far as my focus with anything IM related, I try to do my due diligence, and steer clear from all the hype, and 1-click crap out there, so if anything, my few sites that do focus on the IM niche are more over a 'push it forward' effort than that of any great financial reward. *At least not yet.

    It almost seems impossible to avoid it, with PLR, domaining, hosting, writing articles, creating product, and all that is needed to run a successful business online. So, as long as it's ethical, I'll support and/or promote the IM products between building up my experience and other non-related niche sites.

    My main focus is in the 'broad' health niche, and after 5 months of learning what doesn't work, I am finally drawing near to having this 'project' up and running, whereby, I know it will make great money.


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    • Profile picture of the author Bill Farnham
      Me.

      But oh boy, when I do I'll be rich!

      I read that on the interwebs.
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      • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
        Originally Posted by Bill Farnham View Post

        But oh boy, when I do I'll be rich!

        I read that on the interwebs.
        You sneaky dog!

        Just found this!
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  • Profile picture of the author Miguelito203
    Originally Posted by manicmethods View Post

    I personally think that the IM niche seems to be the easy option for a lot of people and just wandered who is targeting niches OUT of the IM niche.

    If you don't want, you don't have to enclose what that niche is. Just interested.
    Although I primarily work in the IM niche, I have worked and made money in 3 niches and continue to make money in some of them today. I started outside the IM niche because everyone told me to because they said it was too competitive and too hard to get into. Working outside the IM niche kind-of reinforces the fact that you know what you're doing, and it's not just a fluke, I think.

    Regardless of the niche or whether the product is info or physical, my conversion rates and stuff have always been good, which I attribute to the fact that I'm a pretty good writer (have been told) and good at research and connecting with my audience. All the "big money" niches will have competition, but the process is the same.

    Joey
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  • Profile picture of the author jahangir87
    I'm also in two niches out of IM niche.I tried it but just didn't get success although I didn't too much effort behind it.
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  • Profile picture of the author John T D
    I also avoid the IM niche. I figure way to many other people are already doing a much better job at it than I could.

    I have two niches that I am currently involved in, which is more than enough to start with.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kal Sallam
    361 to be precise.
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  • Profile picture of the author AnthonyKrese
    I'm in a niche outside of IM / MMO.
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  • Profile picture of the author jasonTBA
    All of my niches are outside IM. Im about to get into IM but only specifically helping people make money in my niche (my affiliates)
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  • Profile picture of the author Bojacked
    For now I'm steering clear of the IM and MMO niches because while this niche does represent a segment of the population that is a "desperate buyer" I feel that for me right now there are plenty of other niches which have less competition.

    I got some good advice once that you want to be a big fish in a small pond starting out and picking specific niches with desperate buyers and lower competition can help you succeed early on.

    I do enjoy watching the awesome ad copy and marveling at the sales pages of a lot of the IM crowd though. I have to hide my wallet when I surf the MMO niche for sure, cuz some of those guys are pros for real and I'm looking to make money rather than spend it all at the moment. ;]
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    • Profile picture of the author Charles E. White
      I have never targeted the IM niche, personally I would rather target something I am passionate about!
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  • Profile picture of the author IamTJM
    I target several niches outside of IM. I find it fun to explore niches you are not familiar with.
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  • Profile picture of the author domainarama
    The IM niche, what is it about that niche that make me run away?

    Over 90% -- maybe it's over 95% -- of the people who try to make money in the IM niche never make a penny. And of the others there has to be a large percentage who barely break even after expenses.

    That means that if I sell something in the IM niche I will be instrumental in fleecing 90-95% of my customers out of their money.

    My conscience will not allow me to do that. No, the IM market isn't for me.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
    Ill only go near the IM niche once I truly believe I've made it.

    Then Ill feel completely confident and comfortable posting REAL earnings screenshots.

    Dont be fooled into thinking only those in the IM niche are making money, thats just not the case.
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  • Profile picture of the author seobirk
    Contrary to what you think the IM niche is hard, very hard. If you remember the prices of the WSOs in the past, they are just dropping because of all the competition.

    Why go against marketers that know what they are doing when you can pick on some smaller niche and bank easier?
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  • Profile picture of the author MakeMoneyU2
    I'm in IM but others too and do also a lot of local seo
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  • Profile picture of the author MrLinkBuilder
    To me IM niche is harder and very competitive, this is because people who are just starting their own venture online needs to acquire knowledge and tools that they can use in order to start their online business. This means IM niche is always in demand.

    It's only easy at first if you know that particular niche but when you try to rank and compete with the rest of veterans it becomes harder.
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  • Profile picture of the author andynathan
    I am starting to market the IM niche a little, but it is not my main focus.
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Tracey
    I have never attempted to market to Internet Marketers or IM wannabes & I don't think I ever will...

    But things can always change
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  • Profile picture of the author Sheryl Polomka
    I have some sites in the IM niche and some out of the IM niche. I would have to say my biggest income website is one that is not in the IM niche. It's in a very 'big' niche still, but not IM.
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  • Profile picture of the author apoorv.parijat
    I'm not in IM per se but we do offer services to IM people as well as small-medium businesses.

    Other than that, we work in two-three others niches and make good money. It almost equals what we do via services. :-)
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    • Profile picture of the author Rick88
      If online marketing for offline businesses is not IM then I am not in IM. (tongue in cheek)

      There have been a ton of make money offline courses. A lot of crap being sold to these offline people. Seems like the flavor of the month every day.
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  • Profile picture of the author manicmethods
    redfieryheart, I wouldn't follow that plan through if I were you... You seen the last two steps: Fail and Give Up.
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  • Profile picture of the author James Gould
    I don't target it at all, it's far too competitive to be a viable source of income.

    I use a pretty much opposite niche
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  • Profile picture of the author nicholasb
    some of my most profitable niches are outside the im niche, I love selling and creating products outside of this niche a whole lot better. But the IM niche is also a good niche to sell and make money in, but I think it's also importnat to learn from people who make money in other niches too.

    If they can only sell in the IM niche they must not be very skilled because anyone can sell in this niche, it's the easiest niche to sell in, in my opinion and that is coming from someone with products in over 50 niches
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  • Profile picture of the author Alex Kage
    I targeted the IM niche in the past, unfortunately the competition is huge. You have to do something awesome to stand out from the crowd.
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  • Profile picture of the author JoshuaG
    I do a little of both.

    I think if you have success outside of the IM niche you are qualified to teach others how to do what you did.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jon Patrick
      Originally Posted by domainarama

      The IM niche, what is it about that niche that make me run away?

      Over 90% -- maybe it's over 95% -- of the people who try to make money in the IM niche never make a penny. And of the others there has to be a large percentage who barely break even after expenses.

      That means that if I sell something in the IM niche I will be instrumental in fleecing 90-95% of my customers out of their money.

      My conscience will not allow me to do that. No, the IM market isn't for me.
      I disagree. If you sell people a quality product, and following through on what you teach them will make them money, then those percentages are none of your concern - because they simply reflect the fact that most people aren't following through on what you teach them.

      You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink. That doesn't mean you should no longer lead horses to water.
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  • Profile picture of the author 3000
    I don't try to target the IM niche in my opinion its getting to saturated. I try to target the health niches because there are endless sub-niches within it.
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    • Profile picture of the author KenJ
      About a month ago I nearly had the audacity to run a WSO in the IM niche.

      What folly would that have been? We will never know. I make money in the niches I know best.

      There are better pickings to be had elsewhere. Better pickings by far.

      Kenj
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