warning - if this goes through, your websites could go offline

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Hi -- received this and thought I should pass it on... has anyone else heard much about it?

Apparently, according to this article, it is a new bill trying to be pushed through congress essentially 'censors' internet websites... called "H.R. 3261"...

Bill Promises To Censor the Internet | WebProNews

And according to another source, "Under this bill, a foreign or domestic Internet site that has broken no U.S. law can nevertheless have its economic lifeblood cut off upon a single notice from a copyright or trademark owner who alleges that a single page of the site "enables or facilitates" illegal activity by third parties."

And here is a video they have:
Protect IP Act Breaks the Internet - YouTube!


According to that, it is not even 'proven' that it does -- just 'alleges' that something may not be quite right... what are your thoughts?


#censor #internet #sopa or bill
  • Profile picture of the author sparrow
    Originally Posted by InternetSuccess001 View Post

    Hi -- received this and thought I should pass it on... has anyone else heard much about it?

    Apparently, according to this article, it is a new bill trying to be pushed through congress essentially 'censors' internet websites... called "H.R. 3261"...

    Bill Promises To Censor the Internet | WebProNews

    And according to another source, "Under this bill, a foreign or domestic Internet site that has broken no U.S. law can nevertheless have its economic lifeblood cut off upon a single notice from a copyright or trademark owner who alleges that a single page of the site "enables or facilitates" illegal activity by third parties."

    And here is a video they have:
    Protect IP Act Breaks the Internet - YouTube!


    According to that, it is not even 'proven' that it does -- just 'alleges' that something may not be quite right... what are your thoughts?


    My thought on this is, yearly we all see this type of activity to control the internet and I am sure big money is behind this

    not long ago a high fee could be imposed to have access to the internet to do business so only large companies with deep pockets could access

    this type of activity needs to be kept to a minimum and it will never cease and is a threat to all of us

    if they really want to break the backbone to this already bad economy they created the internet is next

    Ed
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  • Profile picture of the author Mary Wilhite
    Intellectual property rights protection is a serious issue
    and it should not be taken lightly.

    However, I do hope that laws passed will not suppress
    the internet to the point that it will be too
    regulated to allow fast access to appropriate information.
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  • Profile picture of the author nicholasb
    it's best not to get yourself worked up, living in a constant state of fear is a sure path to failure and misery
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    • Profile picture of the author Brandon Bell
      Originally Posted by nicholasb View Post

      it's best not to get yourself worked up, living in a constant state of fear is a sure path to failure and misery
      I couldn't agree more. As a man thinketh in his heart, so is he.
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    • Originally Posted by nicholasb View Post

      it's best not to get yourself worked up, living in a constant state of fear is a sure path to failure and misery
      It's not about 'living in a state of fear'. It's about 'doing' something about it, and/or being aware. If you see a car coming down the highway, and you are sitting in the middle of the highway, and someone tells you are a car is coming down the highway and you should move, if you don't listen and figure it is just a 'state of fear' then that is rather foolish. But if you get up, and move, then that is action.
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    • Profile picture of the author jeskola
      Originally Posted by nicholasb View Post

      it's best not to get yourself worked up, living in a constant state of fear is a sure path to failure and misery
      Yeah, i would usually agree with this... and i think it goes a lot deeper than piracy.

      There seems to be a load of stuff in the press latley regarding 'cyber crime' what with the Stuxnet virus - attacks on the UK, Iran and China being involved etc... it all just seems a bit of a coincidence. I'm not really one for conspiracy theories... but now the 'war on terror' is being wrapped up and the western economies on their knees, we need a new bogeyman to keep the masses suitable frightened ... and considering how deeply entrenched our daily lives are with the internet it seems like the perfect target. A potential false flag to really turn the screw on a global level control... especially if the world economy completely collapses.
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  • Profile picture of the author Adnimated
    Seems to me like a good thing to legit marketers. So I am not too worried about it. And if you have some successful salesletters, you can always go for direct mail.

    The other thing is that it's pretty easy to battle this.

    Honestly, I can't see this go through. Not to this extreme at least. Because it would go against everything the US stands for.
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  • Profile picture of the author TheInternet
    Seems easy enough to kill. Just tell Senators and congresspeople that quoting news coverage favorable to them on their website could be a felony.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dan C. Rinnert
      Originally Posted by TheInternet View Post

      Seems easy enough to kill. Just tell Senators and congresspeople that quoting news coverage favorable to them on their website could be a felony.
      LOL. The laws they pass don't equally apply to them, like how they exempted themselves from anti-spam laws, telemarketing laws and so on.
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      • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
        I think a lot of you don't quite grok the situation if this passes.

        Example: This site occasionally sees posts from people spamming for warez sites and the like. And, sadly, we occasionally have people selling products here they've copied directly from others. Or posts copied and pasted articles they didn't write. Actual, sometimes serious, cases of copyright infringement.

        We don't tolerate it if we're made aware of it, but it only takes one of those people to sneak something through and the owners to see it, and we'd be shut down if this forum were hosted offshore.

        Or, more likely in the short term, some moron decides to claim that we're hosting pirated material, and they'd block access to the site to anyone in the US. Again, if it were hosted outside American borders.

        All sorts of scum who'd love that kind of lever to bend.

        Every site of any significance has similar issues.

        I could engineer a whole lot of ways to make a site qualify for blocking under those rather over-broad guidelines. And there are people out there with a lot more experience in that sort of thing than I ever hope to have.

        There are certainly plenty of sites that should be blocked, but I doubt they'll be the only ones hit if this passes without serious disambiguation. If you live outside the US, you should be concerned about this. Or if you live in the US and value your ability to access news and discussion with people who live elsewhere.


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  • Profile picture of the author ry6782010
    Agreed. All you have to do is make sure that the contact on your site in the first place isn't copyrighted, or trademarked to begin with. I have to wonder though.. Can this also be done with domains/website names that have trademarked names in them or things such as that?.
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  • Profile picture of the author Omdllc
    It won't happen - not anywhere in the near future. Don't worry yourself - just build your business.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tek Scavenger
    The video isn't working for me. Interesting considering the topic.
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  • Yeah I'm afraid as time goes on the government will continue to encroach on our freedom on the Internet. Right now it's still the "Wild West" days and things are still fairly unregulated compared to what it's going to be like 10 years down the road.
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