When to start outsourcing

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Hi all

Although I'm relatively new to IM, I have been looking into outsourcing certain aspects (SEO / Website design / Article writing), and was wondering at what point most other warriors started to outsource. My monthly income isn't great at the moment, but I'm starting to think that outsourcing, although at an initial cost, would increase my ROI.

I know this is a very broad question, with the answer probably changing across niches and business structures, but just as a rough guide - when did you warriors start to outsource parts of your IM empire?

Also, as someone relatively new to all aspects of IM, how would you prioritise what you outsource for the best results.

Thanks in advance!

MZ
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  • Profile picture of the author blogbucks
    I started outsourcing pretty early on. There were certain tasks that it just made sense to get help with. I agree with the post above that encourages outsourcing your mundane daily tasks. That was one of the first things I outsourced as well.

    I have some AdSense sites and one of the first things I outsourced was article writing. I wrote the first few articles to get a feel for it and to identify the kind of articles I wanted and then went out and found a great writer and turned it all over to them. It's been worth every penny.

    Next I outsourced my my back-link work, found an contractor and gave it to them. They are way more efficient than I ever was.

    I just recently settled on an SEO outsourcer as well. Very glad I did, they are getting way better results than I ever did.

    I now manage these three contractors; but honestly, they do a great job and it is almost hands free for me. I now have more time to concentrate on new projects. And since then I've looked for ways to outsource more tasks; when it makes sense to do so.

    I can only speak for myself; however, I'm glad I started outsourcing early. Even though it ate into my profits early on. I believe it helped me grow my business faster than if I would have continued to do everything myself.
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  • Profile picture of the author TopKat22
    I wouldn't start outsourcing until I was making more money than the cost of the outsourcing. Plus, I think it is a good idea to work at doing it yourself for a while so you have a better understanding of what it takes so that you can know the real value of the prices of the services you want to outsource.

    And when you do outsource, check many different places and people before you decide.
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  • Profile picture of the author AmandaT
    If you can afford it, take your profit and invest it back into your business.

    For my main clickbank site, whenever I make a few sales I use that money to buy a banner ad or buy more graphics.

    The best time to start outsourcing is as soon as you make money from your website.
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  • Originally Posted by Morganzolar View Post

    Hi all

    Although I'm relatively new to IM, I have been looking into outsourcing certain aspects (SEO / Website design / Article writing), and was wondering at what point most other warriors started to outsource. My monthly income isn't great at the moment, but I'm starting to think that outsourcing, although at an initial cost, would increase my ROI.

    I know this is a very broad question, with the answer probably changing across niches and business structures, but just as a rough guide - when did you warriors start to outsource parts of your IM empire?

    Also, as someone relatively new to all aspects of IM, how would you prioritise what you outsource for the best results.

    Thanks in advance!

    MZ
    As soon as possible! That's how you scale your business. Every day that goes by that you aren't outsourcing, you are leaving money on the table by not leveraging the money you do have by paying for other people's time/talents.

    The answer is ASAP.
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  • Profile picture of the author IamTJM
    As soon as the tedious time consuming tasks you need to perform are preventing you from expanding your business.
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    • Profile picture of the author Ben Armstrong
      For me there are 2 main rules:

      1. I have enough income to pay for the outsourcing.

      2. I have done enough of the task myself to know what kind of value I'm getting for my $$

      I'm reaching the point now where I'm looking into fully outsourcing or at least semi-automating my SEO.

      I've outsourced some SEO and articles in the past.
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      • Profile picture of the author Jason Rankin
        Pay the professionals, almost every aspect of your work has someone that is better at it then you. That is there expertise. Your end result might blow you and you customers away.
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    • Profile picture of the author Ralph Moore
      Many years ago, when our youngest child started keyboarding classes.

      Hey, she needed practice typing.

      Seriously though, outsource what you can, when you can as long as you can trust the results, so you can concentrate on other things.

      I still do most things myself. Just be sure you control the results.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rach72
    After learning the basics and understanding what I needed to do I decided to outsource the stuff that I simply did not have time for or which was not the best use of my time.

    50% of my income goes into outsourcing, whether it is graphic design, hiring article rewriters, social commenting or backlinking. It makes life far less stressful!

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    • Profile picture of the author Morganzolar
      Great information guys, thanks alot - I think after reading the advice I'm going to outsource some content (for website publication then article directory syndication), I'll just work on the SEO myself to get a good knowledge of it, before outsourcing that later (when my profits cover the cost).

      Does this seem like a good plan?

      MZ
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  • Profile picture of the author Gavori
    I didnt know outsourcing can be used for soo many things, until I read this thread....going to start outsourcing soon
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  • Profile picture of the author melltonroper
    If you no longer manage manage the task...
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  • Profile picture of the author rocketmoto
    Start outsourcing as soon as you can afford to.

    When you outsource, you can leverage your business much better and scale up faster.
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  • Profile picture of the author Daniel Wilson
    Hi!

    Try it this way, what you get out of the internet put it back in. For example I try to act like the money on my Paypal are just numbers, which I must invest into the right services or what ever so that number can be bigger. It is like a game.

    That way your Paypal money will be stable but your online empire will grow. Invest!

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    • Profile picture of the author Morganzolar
      OK, for those of you who are interested - I've started an off-site SEO campaign (I will do on site SEO myself), and I've ordered a website logo and background from fiverr (such a cheap way to outsource)! I'll give results when I get them (I imagine my off site SEO will take a month or two)!

      Happy outsourcing all!

      MZ
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  • Profile picture of the author MrLinkBuilder
    Only outsource if you believe one job is taking you too long or if you think you need to expand and generate more income.
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  • Profile picture of the author Abby Gibbs
    If you can afford to outsource why not. It will be a big help for you.
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  • Profile picture of the author webtechprodigy
    The first thing that I would advice outsourcing is mundane tasks like social media and guest post moderation (If your site is a multi author blog). It is also wise to have an email reply VA because emails suck the most time in an IM's life. You can have a freelancer handle the email account and only forward you the critical emails. You will realize that this will save you a lot of time.
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  • Profile picture of the author BabyMama
    I have only recently started outsourcing. This was as I was getting over my head with stuff and needed help. Since then I have been able to build and build. Outsourcing is a GREAT thing. In fact I can't say enough good things about it!
    Being pregnant and due in just 10 weeks eeek! I am looking for solutions to cover my business in the next few weeks to cover the few weeks when the baby is new born.
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  • Profile picture of the author shawoon98
    1. You are not the best at everything. Do what you are best at. Give others the rest for best result.
    2. You can't do everything. Because if you do, it'll give you a 48 hours/day job.
    3. You do everything yourself - you just miss the part that you must do everyday yourself. And that's RESEARCH & LEARNING

    Above all ""TIME IS MONEY"". INVEST LITTLE MONEY TO BUY TIME. The time you bought, will bring more and more and more money.

    P.S. It really takes tiny amount of money for the most time consuming, disgusting and boring jobs (i.e link building, article writing). Leave any time eater to the professionals. You invest your time on researching, learning, earning, list building, creative thinking.....etc...etc...

    All the best.
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    • Profile picture of the author Tom Ryan
      For me I do not outsource until I've done and fully understand the part of my business that I plan on outsourcing. In order to ensure that I get the type of quality work done that I expect I have to know the ins and outs of what I'm outsourcing. Otherwise I could be blowing money on inferior work and not even know it.
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  • Profile picture of the author JamieSEO
    Originally Posted by Morganzolar View Post

    Hi all

    Although I'm relatively new to IM, I have been looking into outsourcing certain aspects (SEO / Website design / Article writing), and was wondering at what point most other warriors started to outsource. My monthly income isn't great at the moment, but I'm starting to think that outsourcing, although at an initial cost, would increase my ROI.

    I know this is a very broad question, with the answer probably changing across niches and business structures, but just as a rough guide - when did you warriors start to outsource parts of your IM empire?

    Also, as someone relatively new to all aspects of IM, how would you prioritise what you outsource for the best results.

    Thanks in advance!

    MZ
    The smart thing to do to start with is only outsource tasks you do not know how to do (or suck at) so that you free up your time to work on other stuff.

    Order for outsourcing:

    1st - Outsource what you are not good at and hate doing
    2nd - Outsource what you are decent at but hate
    3rd - Outsource anything you don't really like

    I suggest just sticking with outsourcing the 1st category until you are earning decent money, then move on to the 2nd step, and as you earn more, move on to the 3rd step.
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  • Profile picture of the author NicoleBeckett
    Originally Posted by Morganzolar View Post

    Also, as someone relatively new to all aspects of IM, how would you prioritise what you outsource for the best results.
    Start by outsourcing things that you can't do on your own (or don't have a ton of time to devote to) - like writing content, designing your new website or producing a video. By hiring professionals to do things like these, you wind up with a more professional image (both on your site and off) - which will make people more confident about doing business with you.

    Yes, it will cost money to hire quality people (not just people on Fiverr or elance who charge a couple of bucks for what is usually so-so work). But think of it this way - if you spend $50 on content or $200 on a new web design, the money you make as a result of those efforts will likely be much higher than what you could have made without those pros.

    Once you start making some more money, you can start to outsource the menial tasks that aren't difficult (but that you hate doing) - like moderating your blog or searching for new blogs to guest post on.

    Good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author stephenwaldo
    Outsourcing is tricky. My advice would be to start outsourcing as soon as possible provided you have about 1 month's worth of pay saved up that you can provide your workers. Usually it takes a week or so to 'train' people to do exactly what you want in my experience. Having that money saved up will keep you from having to fire someone just cause you ran out of money.

    Also, if you've not yet read the 4 hour work week by Tim Farris (sp?) then that's worth checking out.

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  • Profile picture of the author jerry25
    I outsource tasks that I do not like to do myself. But I also know that you need to make a little money before doing a lot of outsourcing.

    With outsourcing, you sometimes need to use a couple of workers for different tasks before you find one that you are comfortable with and like their work. It can be a little time consuming in the beginning, but in the long run, you will be so happy.
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  • Profile picture of the author decree
    The original question is one of resource allocation. The two resources are your time and your money. Assuming you don't have much money behind you I would say work up to roughly 70% of your own capacity before exploring the idea of outsourcing.

    If you are making money with your own efforts you will get an idea of how additional help will ramp up your organization. Don't think your lack of earnings initially is a function of your lack of resources. Hiring out before you make a profit can shut you down quick.

    Hope that helps
    TJ
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  • Profile picture of the author Samrath Gupta
    According to me .... Outsourcing is the KEY TO SUCCESS in IM industry if you know what you are doing !
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    • Profile picture of the author topfree
      Well there are basically 2 reasons one might want to outsource.

      1: You are new and are not good at, or do not yet know how to, build websites, do keyword research, write articles or know where to post them. Outsourcing can be helpful in getting you started while you are still learning internet marketing.

      2: You need a time saver. You are making money and you know could make more if you do more but there are not enough hours in a day to do it. Outsourcing can save you a lot of time, especially if you already have a technique that is making you money and you just want to ramp it up.

      So I say no matter what level you are at, if you have money, outsourcing can be very helpful. If however, you are flat broke, you are going to have to make money first. Preferably a steady stream of money coming in everyday. Doesn't even have to be a lot, even 4 or 5 dollars per day would be good, enough so you know you will at least get the money back that you spent on outsourcing.


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  • Profile picture of the author Dwayne Morrison
    I think the best time to start outsourcing is when your revenue outweighs the costs of outsourcing. If you're making more revenue than you're spending, why not double or even triple your output via outsourcing?
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  • Profile picture of the author mandilewebdesign
    A agree with this statement. I'm about at that point where I just can't do it all myself. I run a web design/development company and between meeting with clients, working on their sites, the financials and every other little task, I don't know which to do first. I just outsourced my financials to a quickbooks pro. That is the first step. Now I can concentrate on my clients more and service my company, mandilewebdesign.com a lot better.

    Originally Posted by Greg Wildermuth View Post

    As soon as you've got the money, I'd say. Outsource your mundane daily tasks that basically anybody can do.
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    • Profile picture of the author jamescovert
      Outsource your mundane ( but important ) tasks and forget about them, monitor over a period of the next three months for improvements etc.

      Then concentrate your efforts on your local favourite jobs, design improvements, content and customer entrapment.

      Happy days morganzolar, good to see you moving up.
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  • Profile picture of the author PandaPoacher
    When you are making enough money it's perfect to start outsourcing your work. It's much easier to do and you don't have to work as much.
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    • Profile picture of the author Lisha5684
      I started outsourcing right away because I had so much to do that it was worth it to spend a little money. At first I only outsourced about an hour of work a day, just to free me up a bit, while not spending much money. I gave the person the easiest, least complex things to do first to make sure they didn't mess up my business. As I made more money, I increased my outsourcing, giving more difficult tasks to the ones who had gained my trust.

      Also, a good thing to do when you post a job for outsourcing is to have an interview question. Only hire the people who actually answer your question. My question was irrelevant to the job, but I knew who I wanted to hire based on thair answers. My question was, "What would you do with a million dollars?" Some answered it saying they'd give it all away. Some didn't even answer the question. Some answered that they'd like to buy a car and a house and all that good stuff. The one I hired said that she would buy some things, put some in savings, and also help her family. She was very thorough in her answer and I could tell by the way she wrote that she was who I wanted to work for me. I could tell by this response that she had a good level head on her shoulders AND could write well.

      I found my people on odesk. It's a good site to go with.
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  • Profile picture of the author abubakar89
    Outsourcing comes into play when you dont have time for low value tasks,
    Rule of success is to focus on high value tasks and start outsourcing low value tasks.

    Example
    I would never outsource keyword research
    I would always outsource social bookmarking
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  • Profile picture of the author Pierce
    get rid of the boring time consuming stuff. I have found that getting rid of the stuff I dont like doing makes me work much harder on the stuff I like.
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  • Profile picture of the author kolbywhite28
    If you have capital, then I guess it is a great to be able to outsource
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  • Profile picture of the author jasono
    Yes, you can hire VA's and outsourced workers for very good rates. I wrote an ebook that has a bunch of information and created a video that explains the benefits of outsourcing. Guide to Outsourcing - The only outsourcing guide you will need. | Outsourcing Autopilot!
    Just trying to help, I hope it does.
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    • Profile picture of the author Naimath
      Actually, if you've budget, outsourcing can be started from Day 1. Even though, there are many cases of people first learning stuff themselves before outsourcing but to me, I always believe in letting the expert do his job and focusing on the bigger issues. Of course, you can monitor what they work on and how they work.
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    • Profile picture of the author marknel
      For me ..its outsourcing those tasks which is time consuming and which Im not good at all. However you should have the basic idea of the task before outsourcing as you would know ,the type of result to expect and be prepared for some trail and error while picking a suitable VA for your project.
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  • Profile picture of the author Seth Bias
    You don't even have to know anything about anything.

    All you need to do is get the money. Then outsource submit it to client and profit.

    I started outsourcing almost the same time I got into my IMer career. Everyone told me I should be doing my web design work myself, or take pride in my work and not pay people to do it. Well I take pride in my business which is turning profits while I sleep. Always try and outsource or have some people in your pocket you can shoot work out to when you get it.

    -sbias
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  • Profile picture of the author Increase Media
    You should start outsourcing if you yourself can't supply what you need done or the economics makes sense once you figure out how much time you are putting into versus having someone else do it and the quality you get for letting someone else do it for you.
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  • Profile picture of the author sofus
    >Focus your time on high value tasks
    >Outsource tedious low value tasks
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  • Profile picture of the author Larkrise
    This is a good question and a timely one at that

    I've had most problems that you can experience with outsourcing, learned as much from the problems as I have the successes

    It's not as easy as people would have you think, hence I'm creating a little wso about the best and easiest way to approach outsourcing on a budget - I'll come back and let you know when its ready

    Meanwhile, yes I recommend handing over time consuming tasks to others and for newbies who are on a tight budget, I'll show you how you can get a good writer who will write, backlink and take on all sorts of tasks for less than $2 per hour. As you increase your income, so you can increase your VA's and give bonus when their hard work pays off. But first you need to know how to avoid spending all your time 'managing' your employee, how and where to hire them and how to train them your way

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  • Profile picture of the author Arthur Barn
    If you can do the work alone, why would you outsource? Just outsource if you don't have enough time to do the work and need assistance. Do you think you can sustain outsourcing? If you do, start now.
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