Building a List Is Very Valuable

Hi Ryan,

I agree, building list is actually very profitable indeed, but it also depends on the quality of subs.

If they are only freebie seekers, it aint worth anything.

Test whether the list actually pays you to keep.

People have so much choice nowadays, so its important to give your subscribers valuable content, free ebooks and reports if promoted in the right way can build your list, but i think a lot of marketers will agree that you need to have a solid reputation. For sure having a list can earn you a lot of cash, but only if you use it the right way

I agree, list building should be your main focus... I use to always chase after that initial sale...

Until, I figured out that all the money is on the back end (in the follow up)...

It's good to make money on the front as well, but for me I will give up that front end sale just to get them on my list by giving something away for free like a report, case study, video or something...

I know that once there on my list I can make money from them multiple times...

To Your Success,

Michael Paul

How about the 7 dollar script idea sell something of greater value for $7 and let the person who bought it sell it as many times as they can for $7 but have the people register the product with you. I believe that is a great way to build your list. You can also have a back end on it and make some money there. Here's the guys link. If you see his script below, I have just replaced the example with my pay pal email and i would automatically get paid instantly if you were to buy from this link. Hey its a great motivator for me and i think it would be great for anyone else also.

http://www.7dollarsecrets.com/?e=sal...glassimons.com

I believe that too many people underestimate list building. I know a lot of people that focus on SEO, when their time would be better spent on list building.

I turn a profit and they are still "SEO-ing" to this day.

P.S. I'm all for SEO, but straight SEO, I've seen not work out more often than not, and it can be short term.

Have you thought about using giveaway events. it can add 100+ a week to your list easily!

I agree that list building is a very important component of being successful at Internet Marketing. I recently read "Web Copy That Sells" by Maria Veloso and came upon a section about list building. According to Maria, "Relationship marketing is at the very heart of all e-commerce." Building relationships is vital to a successful online business. I think the bottom line is to keep your list happy...send them quality material and don't always try and sell them products, give them freebies too.

~Mrs. Johnson

Having a list of subscribers you can contact at anytime and keep informed with regards to your business is such a powerful tool. Obviously it takes time to build and you really need to keep people on your list and interested, which requires a lot of hard work. Provide useful information and do so in a relaxed manner, always avoiding over the top sales pitches and useless hype. There are so many people pitching so many things online, your potential audience has heard and seen it all already...numerous times. Best,

John Chow just wrote a post of how valuable it is to have a list. Check it out by going to How I Made Over ,000 In One Day | John Chow dot Com
This has definately encouraged me to keep building my list and I hope it encourages you too

If John Chow can make $4,000 in one day then by golly I can make $4,000 in one month.
I know I can do it....I will do it.

May will be my month where I will earn $4,000 in one month.

Some great posts, and I agree totally Ryanmaccca, free E-books and Reports are definitely the way to go! By having an emailing list you can pretty much guarantee yourself a great stream of free targeted traffic whenever you need it.

I do think you have to build up some rapport first with your subscribers, by emailing them free ebook sources opportunities then moving into payable products (if that's your goal).

The ebooks that tend to work in my experience are the ones that you write yourself that caters to your subscribers needs directly, (building traffic for one!) If you write the material yourself, you know it's going to be good quality!

How often do you recommend responding to you list?

I think the thing with lists is you need to have a niche that constantly can benefit from new products and recommendations.

I currently have a decent list in the weight loss niche, and you can only recommend so many "new" weight loss information books and products before it just seems like "hey, you should buy this book this time, since the last 4 I recommended didn't seem to do the trick"


I think you need a list where they are constantly working to improve on themselves or something else: hobbies, self help, financial gain (business, stocks, etc.)

If you are trying to build a list , try selling an med - low end PLR ebook on whatever niche you are using. Sell it small. Try 4.95 or 9.95. That way you know , your subscriber is someone who isn't looking for freebies

Hey Ryan,

That's HOW I started my first list (a free ebook)!

In fact, it was an 8 part fully stocked course with videos and drawn
out over a bunch of days (I shoulda sold it now that I think about it).

I released it in 2005 and got 6,500 subscribers on the course.

More importantly, the affiliate links inside the course (because it
was free and valuable data at the time) made me over $20,000
in commissions over a few months with a mailing list to boot!

Now, you say give away a FREE EBOOK -- that's all good.

But I learned something recently with my little puppy dog I got:

My Wolf Dog Juno ?

I realized that the TASTIER the treat, the better my little doggie
would listen, pay attention and do EXACTLY what I wanted her
to do (muhahahahah).

So you really can't just say, okay, I'm gonna give away a FREE book.

It's NOT that easy I tell ya!

You've gotta put it through the Puppy Treat Test (PTT for short).

Ask yourself, if someone were interested in the information in that
free ebook you have, and the visitor read your information about
the contents, HOW TASTY of a treat would it be?

If the treat is not tasty enough, find SOME WAY to make it tastier.

Make sense?

Spruce up the title, add videos, talk about the secretive data you will
give away, you get the point.

You want to get the TREAT on your website for your visitors to a
point where just the appearance or the title of the ebook or whatever
explanation makes the visitor SALIVATE after consuming your teaser
copy.

A free ebook is not just like a GOLDEN PRIZE to anyone anymore because
a LOT of people are doing it.

So the real impact to the visitor from the title of the ebook, along with the promised information in the squeeze page is what collectively creates the
most intense state of WANTING desire. (Okay Jim, are here to seduce
a woman because you ARE a married man!)

Anyways, if you want to see what I believe is one of my BEST squeeze pages that gets that DESIRE up, check it out below because this page converts at 50% (but now you are going to screw up my stats) -- but I wanna help people out so screw it...

MyOptInPage.com

Gotta go get ready to go do some boarding in Tahoe up in Heavenly!

Yes, I very much agree ... Listbuilding is very important, and is a major part of having success or not ... however, the lists have to be maintained, and should not be 'overused'.

I say this applies to anything you have on your site. I have a site that provides video advertising, logo and graphic design, music composing and beats, and here soon clothing. and on every page I give away something.

Videos i have a effects package, button package for the logos and graphic page, and 2 songs and 2 beats for the music page i give away all with resale rights if you are truely creative and really plan on being around for a while do this.

By giving away a sample of what you have to offer gives your potential clients confidence that you are serious about your work.

not sure if you can...... but do you send a paid customer to another opt in box so they go to the paid list ? How do you do this with aweber ?

Yes, I agree that building a list can be very valuable. But you can't just build a list and start slamming them right away with offer after offer. If you do they will scroll to the bottom of your email and click that unsubscribe link so fast you won't know what hit you.

You need to build trust and credibility with your subs first before you can expect them to start spending their hard earned money with you. Start out by giving away good quality content for free. Do this for several emails first.

It would be nice if you had a product that you produced yourself that would help make you look like an expert in the niche you're promoting. This would help in building credibility.

Once you gain their trust then you can slowly start sending them offers but make sure they are only top notch offers related to your niche. Don't promote some useless junk just so you can make a buck or your subs will unsubscribe.

They opted in to your newsletter because you had something they were interested in so keep giving them good content. If you keep doing this the money will come eventually.

Later,
Jeff Sargent

Hi all,

I'm pretty new to the IM game and understand that the "money is in the list".

Can anyone recommend a good website where I can obtain targeted email lists from (I'm interested in any and all but for now specifically gambling)? I've come across many sites; some have been alerted to scam sites like Rip Off Report and some want to charge thousands for a small mailing.

Also any recommendations on desktop mailing software would be appreciated (I've tried mailboy but it doesn't seem to work and their constantly working on it to no avail). I'm trying this way until I make enough sales to introduce an autoresponder (I'm just been tight really and don't wnat to pay the monthly fees yet ).

I have however put together a product for poker players teaching them how to make money from poker tournaments, been one myself I understand how to play the game on a winning level and have read plenty of material from the named pros you see on TV. If anyone with a gambling list would be interested in a JV I'd be more than happy to do a 50/50 split. One of the biggest benefits I've covered in this product is "what hands to play and when" which I've noticed this is probably the main questions asked in the poker forums. Please PM me if interested.

I just learned some techniques on building a list. I'm still new to IM but hopefully I can build up a decent list with a free ebook. If anyone has any additional tips when building a list, i'd love to hear them.

Interesting thread! Thank you for giving me insight on this topic!

I have heard that giving away a free ebook is a great way to build a list. I know alot of people say that you want buyers on your list but I have also heard from many that you can convert these freebie seekers to buyers.

I have a list of right under 200 double opt in's right now, I just started building this list arounf 2 weeks ago. Im have 20-30 new double opt in's coming in every day!

Yea its not that great but im giving away a free guide related to my niche and getting around a 50% opt in rate for my free guide. So far I have not tried to make a sale on my list but my first offer is coming up in a day or so. So far I have sent around 6 emails that have just been helpful and im getting a 70-80% open rate which is great.

So I guess I will find out if I can convert these freebie seekers to buyers, I think my first offer will be a ebook in the niche and I will price it at perhaps $2.99 just to test the waters and convert some of my freebie seekers to buyers

Hey...

Yes build the list.. Of Course ... **BUT**

Its the relationship you have with your subscibers that will make the difference between some beer money and some SERIOUS cash !

You have to constantly over deliver ...

Remember each number in your autoresponder list is an actual person... That persona joined your list not just because you offered a free gift but because they believe YOU may be the one to help them live a better life

Dont get them on the list to sell.. sell.. sell !! Grow your list to help the people on there and it will pay !

Dean

I've paid so far about $30 which has given me access to a members area where 20 - 30K opt in email addresses get added each week from various partners. This is a life time membership. I did my due diligence and found no complaints.


I spoke to Aweber last night (live chat) and they won't let me import the opt in lists I have totalling so far over 100K. They said I have to use lists where people have opted in to me. I check out a couple of other sites like "Getresponse", "Salesautomater" etc and I decided to try "Big Response".

Big Response offer for $10 per month on a pay as you go basis a 500 mail blast (other options available) and I can import the lists I have. I tried this out last night on their free trial, which allows me to send 100 mails and it actually provided me with statistics and cleaned the list I used. Out of 100 it confirmed 89 and bounced back 11 which I deleted. I think I may give this a go for a few months.


This is what Im doing, to; A) drill down these lists into my own more targeted optin lists, B) get people to "Raise Their hands" and C) any money I make I plan to put back some of it into sendng out more emails per month as well as other campaigns.

I'm doing this by offering freebies. My plan then is to offer "freebie" vs "product offer" on a 10-1 basis so I give alot of incomplete content building up to my offer.

As I gain these targeted leads I'll probably use them for JV's and stuff later but I'm not quite there yet.


I've been teraing my hair out for the last week trying to find one of these desktop mailing software programs (one I've used was Mailboy) and the lists I used just bounced back. With "Big Response" 89% of the emails from the list I used were successfully sent according to the statitics page.
Before I commit money has anyone used "Big Response" and what was your experience with them?


Wow didn't mean to type so much.

Oh yeah, thanks for the advice here I'm currently watching a couple now.
Have a look at my website opt in page: http:FREE Poker Tips & the main sales page is http:Untitled Document

Any feedback would be greatly appreciated

And if anyone wants to buy it it would even more appreciated.

Cheers.

Granted a list is valuable. But customer satisfaction is even more valuable. Don't just try to build a massive list of names. Sure you got 100,000 names but how many of them are buyers? Use your small list, give your customers more than what they expected, keep them happy and let them use word of mouth to their friends to build that list.

Few years back , Giving away ebooks can have op-in rate of more than 50% ... but it's getting hard now. As my experience, free softwares is much more effective than ebooks nowsaday ...

List Building is an ART.. it's not 1 + 1 = 2
You need to test what works for you and what you should avoid doing..
> So building a list is one thing and turn it into money is totally an other topic.

I find JV's are by far the best way to build your list, just asking around sending people free copies of your products to see if they are interested and perhaps would like to promote them to their list as a free product with an upsell it awesome

This has turned out to be an awesome thread.
I got this great email from one of my subscribers yesterday

This has turned out to be an awesome thread.
I got this great email from one of my subscribers yesterday