Who is making a full time living online?

As of now, i am not a full timer with IM. Maybe someday, i will. I have my children to care of.

Hi,

I make enough to pay the bills, but it is not from IM. (A very tiny bit).

If you 'knew' what you needed to do, I'd say it would be realistic within 1-2 months (i.e., preparation), if not sooner.

But I'd say there are two main camps. Being an affiliate, and being a product creator.

For 4k a month, I'd suggest:
a) Pick a topic you love and know a lot about, not related to IM. (Since technically speaking you just said you don't know how to make money onlien, so if you start selling products telling other people how to do so, that would be rather lame - although also ironically, there are people who do precisely that and it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy).
a) Product wise: most popular products are .pdf files & video courses, although if you have software background that is good as well.
c) Make something value. Figure out how you can 'give' much more value than what you are asking for. I.e., if you want to "make" $4k/month -- figure out how you can make 'x' number of people's lives better by say $12k/month. (I.e. you are 'saving' them $12k, making them $12k, making them happier, safer, smarter, more atractive, etc, etc).

Also, have patience, and realize it is not going to happen overnight. It technically 'will' happen overnight, that is -- if you know exactly what needs to be done -- but chances are you don't, and it will be a lot of experimentation, testing, revising, etc, and so forth until you figure out what works for 'you'. (I.e., I 'know' how I could literally create something today, and start making $$$ from it the same day, but that is based on years of experience of actually 'doing', plus leveraging existing systems I have in place).

But one thing that is REALLY important that you need to realize -- it is not about "getting money". It is about "giving value", and the more you "give" the more you get back.

Anyways, hope that helps.

John

Dan:

I have been full time since 2008, but I was forced into this when the economy made some changes in my life. So it was do or die for me, and let me say money in IM does not come in fast. I would not even bank on six months...

What I would suggest is a couple of things...first stop buying things and reading things...and begin thinking through a business model. Not something that sounds sexy or cool or what someone else is making a killing with, but something that DAN can do for a long time.

Back in the day before internet, I grew a brick and mortar business to about 150 employees, there was no way I could have done that without a business plan...

In 2008 when the economy tanked and I had to make a move, I had to formulate another business plan to succeed online.

It included what can I do right now to get paid in seven days...I went from making really good money to not having a job...so for me it was sell door to door...once I had money coming in...i asked the same thing with making money online...

how do I make money in seven days online...I started making money by the third day...so I learned how to replace my door to door selling with online income...

then I asked how do I duplicate what is working for me? Once I duplicated it I then asked How do I grow this and automate what I am doing...and then I did...

What you have to be cautious of is what so many people do and get caught up in...and that is the WSO crack addict that buys and buys and buys but never applies...

You know why Guru's will give you their tips and tricks...because they know 99.9% of the people might try it for a week, but will abandon it. I know that their are some who really do want to see you succeed...i get it...but truth be known there is very little chance that a superstar will rise and take over any method or niche...plus I think we sometimes forget how large the internet truly is...there is room for everyone...

You know why most people fail at this...because they dont have a plan...every single plan presented has the potential to make you millions...if you apply it, and work it.

But this is what it is like...

What if home depot came on the scene with all the enthusiasm and energy to be a GREAT do it yourself center, which they did...and now everyone knows where to go when they need a hammer. So you go and buy a hammer and see how put together they are...and say wow...I also need some nails...and you buy them...and on your way out you see they have something else you need for that project...

So when payday comes around you go back to that store, and all of sudden home depot is now an automotive store...and the only thing you can do is get your oil changed and get some tires? OK...maybe you go in and spend some money...

But then your tire blows out and you say...hey home depot down the way has tires let me go there...and when you arrive...Home Depot is the new and improved donut shop...HOLY COW...is home depot going to survive the next few months...NO

Thats what a large majority of internet marketers do...they come on strong, believe they will be the next thing...and then bam...it doesn't work as fast as thought, or it takes more time than the guru told them...and then they move from FB dreams, to twitter dreams, to Article marketing dreams, to ad swap dreams, to buy traffic dreams, to SEO dreams, to offline client dreams, to backlinking dreams, to this dream to that dream...and then they buy, buy, buy, and never apply...this road is littered with broken big dreams and money wasted...

And I say this as someone who does it full time...I'm not being negative, just trying to be truthful...and I am not downplaying IM...because I love it and do it everyday of my life...I live it, breath it, and promote it, teach it, and give away a whole bunch of stuff I should be selling...stuff that costs me money...

So I am not discouraging you in anyway...I am encouraging you to go for it...live it...and dream it...but I am saying...start the right way...

So, what I would suggest to you is...

• Stay at your job
• Stop buying
• Start planning~get your business plan~a solid one~One that makes money
• Start applying
• Start tweaking
• Once you are making 3-4k a month...start making the switch...

You can do this part time...you can make a lot of money part time...and you have an advantage of figuring out what actually works for you...

once you find that one thing that works for you...

• duplicate it...
• and duplicate it on a grand scale...
• once you have it duplicated at a grand scale...
• then automate it...

And let me say this...dream larger than 3-4k a month...because you would be amazed at how many people make that in a day...yes from IM

I have been full time for 4 years now , and it is the best thing ever

I'm making a full time income from IM by selling SEO/Web Design services, flipping sites, adsense network, a few other ventures.

It's doable, you just gotta take ACTION

- Ahmad

Full time since 2008.

Internet marketing pays for everything.

Car, rent, food, gym etc.

Since 1996 Worst year was $200k, best year was about $3M take home.

The key has always been in my mind to own a product. Marketing other people's products are short term.

Find a value addition you can make to a community. You'll make money.

I have been full-time for three years and five days. I actually did not even remember my anniversary passed until I seen this post.

I thought man, I forgot to celebrate my "freedom anniversary"

I really cannot believe I forgot about that. Crazy stuff.

But, it is amazing to work from the comfort of your own home.

After not working for anyone else for the past three years. I do not think I would ever be able to get a "real" job.

I will always be an entrepreneur from here on out.

Talk soon,

Shannon

i do, for 5 years already

I've got an emergency situation (10 day window! ) - the quickest result field seems to be with offline IMing so I'm gonna go that way - God Bless all

My only income is online. Been about 8 years.

I have an internet store where I sell health supplements. Sales are down with the economy.

I also am selling Kindle books on Amazon. Hoping that will continue to increase each month. Looks very promising so far.

Lambert

All I can really say ToadFire, is to take Pace's comments into consideration. Owning a product is extremely important when it comes to long term income in your situation. No, you may not have to worry about all the legal issues etc if you promote other peoples products as an affiliate, but when you think about it, those who own their own products, the Advertisers basically, are the ones making all the big money.

I don't make a full time living online yet, but once I get my project ramped up, I will be. From there, I plan to branch off into other ventures like becoming an advertiser as opposed to an affiliate. Then I want to get into the mobile advertiser field..but that's a year or two down the road...

I'm full time for over 4 years, currently I'm doing affiliate marketing and SEO consultancy, combined this is more then I could ever make in offline job. Not to mention freedom to work my own hours or the choice to work with people I want to work with.

I guess the trick is, at least it was for me - focus, chose one thing and stick with it. Do not jump from one thing to another every few weeks when some new "magical" WSO comes out.

Also realize you can't do all the stuff yourself - outsource all you can.

Hope it helps and NEVER, EVER give up!

Been full time for 7 years, did it for 2 years before that, I've sold everything from cigarettes ( Thanx Obama for putting an end to that ) to adult paysite memberships. I love what I do, I look forward to the day when I get up in the morning. I do other things for fun, like building websites, I'm doing one for my mechanic right now and his wife next week. Using a flash template thats XML driven, should be fun! I get great rates on repairs on my cars now, I think I need to sell a couple of them.

Best thing was telling my old boss Good Bye, then seeing him a couple years later making more money than he was

I make my living online full time, as well. The vast majority comes from wordpress design services I do for others (primarily on the Thesis theme), and then a little scratch comes from Clickbank and AdSense. Now I'm trying to move forward into Product Creation and kind of hit that next level.

I know everyone says it, and it probably gets a little old to hear, but it is truly all about "Taking Action." Put it out there, see what sticks to the wall, and just keep going. It's okay to start with that molehill as long as you have a plan, a vision, and the perseverance to make it into a mountain someday! Best of luck

Brilliant so many success stories, I have not made it to those stages yet, but have learned alot of traffic methods which is what it is about. Will keep the perseverance going and keep putting the effort in.

1. It will take a minimum MONTHS to see any return on your effort -- but expect it to be a year or two before you have a strong monthly stream of income
so don't quit your job
2. If you start wasting alot of money on guru programs and fall for all the false promises that they "sell" you will take even longer to make enough to leave your job

it can be done, it takes hours and hours and hours of work. It is a JOB it is WORK

there are no easy answers.

Your best bet is learn, read and consume alot of FREE information here and on the web. there is NO reason to buy anything about internet marketing

start googling, start reading, start listening to podcasts

the most you should really spend is 10 dollars to buy a URL and 7 dollars a month to host your site.

I do it full time. Actually part time, because I dont bust my butt in front of a computer anymore like when I first git started.

Technically it took me 5 years because I was in the same trap of buying stuff, being busy and not making time to FOCUS.

I was also a habitual biz opp hopper. Most of us have been there though lol. After losing jobs and being FORCED to make it work, I can finally say this is what I do for a living. Fun part is explaining to people what you do.

I stopped. Now I just say im an internet marketer, I sell stuff online and make a bunch of money doing it.

Oh the income? Clickbank with SEO and also PPC. And also consulting for small businesses. Clients have paid me up to $1000 to speak on the phone for 2 hours. That's like Christmas LOL!

And with clickbank, It doesn't take much once you have your system in place and high converting offers with good payouts.

Also growing another income strem with my own brand. That's where the total freedom comes from. Clickbank headquarters may meltdown tomorrow so I need other sources. YOUR OWN brand is the best way to go for sure.

I also earn my full time income online.

Started back in 2009 and just like you, I was buying every clever new programme out there to find the magic button. I soon realised that there isn't a magic button. All about hard work and taking action.

My tip here would be that you decide what you want to do online. Are you going to create affiliate websites or adsense sites or sell gigs at fiverr.com

Once you decide, learn everything about the structure how you can make money with the system and stick with it. Do not jump to any other ways until you give your 100% to it.

Money will show up.. Keep it simple, offer solutions to problems. That's all it is.

Make a full time living. Never had a real job.

please stay at your job and concentrate on list building which is pretty simple and sell products to your dedicated list,you become a guru to a small list first and build there confidence in you.its possible to earn 25000 every 8 days from a small list of 500.
Best Wishes
vivi62

Been doing this for years, and the only reason was because of this forum.

Read, implement, read, implement, read......you know the rest!!!

But this forum is very dangerous in the right hands, and for me, I was able to quit my job in a several months. It was not an easy road to get here, but was it worth the ride. UMMM HELL YES!

I quit my job in December 2009, and have been traveling the world since January 2010.

I do internet marketing, consulting, and create information products.

My two biggest lessons I've learned to focus on is:

Marketing
Content/Product Creation

If you focus on these two things in your business, you'll do well.

Marketing consists of email marketing, Pay per click, SEO, video marketing, etc.

You can succeed pretty quickly, if you look for a market that has a perceived lack of a solution.

Find people who need or want what you know, and make it so you help them get where they want to go.

The truth about ab's guy makes a little under $1,000,000 a month, he started 5 years ago. That's revenue though, he spends a ton on marketing.

People want flat great ab's, he made something just for them.

Think about your potential customers and what problems they want to solve, instead of thinking about making money.

Money is just a transfer of value. Your customer spent time making the money to buy the product you spent time making and marketing to them. You use the money to finance your lifestyle.

The transfer of value is basically time. You can spend more time with your kids, and your customer can spend more time living a happy fuller life because you helped them.

Which means, don't think of money as the end goal, think of money as a transfer of value, your customer wants to pay you their value for what value you give them, so make it valuable for them.

I trade the value I give people for freedom to travel the world and spend time with my lover. Pretty simple.

Dear Dan

My situation was similar when I started my online career in 2008. It was not an easy journey, many times I wanted to quit but again I know that there are lots of opportunities and ways to make money online and internet marketing will be a massive source to flourish with.

Slowly I educate myself and implement it one by one. This is very important. Please don't think that you will learn it for 6 months and implement later, never do that mistake. Implement what you have learnt, and do it persistently.

Moreover please don't run from one product to another until you learn and implement those knowledge which you acquired.

Last but not the least, follow a proven step-by-step blueprint to make money online and I wish you all the very best.

Part time since 1997, full time since 1999. I could have went full time a year sooner, but I had a family to consider. I made my internet business prove to me and them that it was sustainable income before taking the plunge. I recommend that to everyone.

If you quit first, before you have an income established, it puts a lot of extra pressure on you. How good are you at handling "do or die" pressure?

I've been full time for a year or so. I do it through offline marketing (cold calling, mobile websites, google places) and have recently gotten into creating info products. I'm looking to build a more passive income instead of trading services for money.

If you take a look at all the threads that come in here on a daily basis they will all tell you the same things:

1. There is no magic bullet. No shortcuts.
2. Come up with a blueprint for your success. Don't just generalize, write down a business plan with every detail thought out.
3. Stop learning and start taking action, learn as you go and you will be a lot better off.

I wish you all the best.

I'm a fulltime Internet marketer which is really beneficial these days to me - I can take off whenever necessary (having some family health issues, so I'm basically letting my business run itself).

Hope that helps!

great to hear so many success stories

i've managed to build up to seven figures now BUT i started small and got good at ONE thing at a time...

i made this video which may help you: succeeding online

i also have a blog article which may help you: how to succeed online

there's lots more in my blog under 'lifestyle'...

I just started online few months ago. I am just doing this part time for i have a full time job as a professor.

Your goal is very realistic. Just keep in mind, what do people want/need, and what can you do to provide them with a solution? Help people get what they need and in turn they'll help you get what you need...

Me too. I am not a full time IM. I still have other "sidelines". Maybe someday, I'll have IM as a career.

I Do It as part time.Hard work is the key to success. Part time or full time, its upon you. Set your goal, how much money u needed to survive? calculate hours you have to spend with your work. then decide yourself with whom you want to go, full time or part time. put your hundred percent to achieve your goal.

pacelattin, you are my inspiration! I bought a lot of products but like Toadfire I never really put them into action. I'm doing that now, and earning a living, mostly Clickbank, CPA and web dev services. But for me, I don't think the "what" was so much the issue as the "doing." It just took choosing an avenue and really applying myself.

I started my journey about 2-3 years ago. And finally about a year ago, I started making enough money (actually more than enough) from my one and only blog that I could have quit both my day jobs. However, I didn't quit my jobs, because I like working outside the house as well.

The only advice I can give is that it truly truly does take a lot of hard work and dedication to get there. Its not gonna happen over night and believe me, there is no tool, report, WSO, plugin, program, webinar, seminar, guru or whatever that can help you get there over night.

If you can commit yourself and take action, you will get there. Juts dont give up and be dedicated. Good luck.

I have been making my full time living online since 1998. My primary source of income is membership web sites. Secondary sources are services and affiliate income.

There are plenty of folks making a full time living online, the trick ofcourse is to quit the day job once your online income is stable enough to afford you to