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by Kom
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HI , I am Kom

I am speak english but I am Always fail in writing the correct english,
Like what you read now,,, Is Suck..Right?

I would like very much to make my self good on writing english as american or british writer.

I Know This is One of thing I really need. Because soon I will make my self fulltime on internet Marketing. I love it doing this now.

I dont know why ? I am second tired work for somebody. They make alot of money and me still the same but getting worse!

I have good project for future and need good writing english.

I am learning from 365 days stories for kid,
I keep reading and writing everyday.

Please Any suggestion for me to improve my english writing ? more faster!

Go Shcooll Is already in my mind.but borring!..

I am Realy need it!

Any Ideas to make it faster...Please

Million thank you
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    I have to go back to work now..Please I will check later for all sugetion for me

    Thank you Very, very Muchs for your kind

    Kom
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  • Profile picture of the author WebPen
    Hey Kom-

    I'm curious- do you really live in Florida? If so- are you going to school or have you looked into English classes?

    I ask because your spelling, grammar, and punctuation are all a bit off. Not completely bad- I think most of us understand what you're saying, but still need a bit of work.

    The thing is, you can't learn how to be a good writer unless you know these things. Once you learn the basics you'll be able to practice your writng and study the more advanced kind of stuff.

    There may also be some good online courses, I've never looked into it to know what's good though.
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    • Profile picture of the author TheHotChick
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      I was wondering the same thing.

      Kom, it seems pretty clear that you need to take some English courses if you plan on being a better writer. I don't think there is any quick, easy way around it.

      Originally Posted by Justin Stowe View Post

      Hey Kom-

      I'm curious- do you really live in Florida? If so- are you going to school or have you looked into English classes?

      I ask because your spelling, grammar, and punctuation are all a bit off. Not completely bad- I think most of us understand what you're saying, but still need a bit of work.

      The thing is, you can't learn how to be a good writer unless you know these things. Once you learn the basics you'll be able to practice your writng and study the more advanced kind of stuff.

      There may also be some good online courses, I've never looked into it to know what's good though.
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      • Profile picture of the author Kay King
        Please Any suggestion for me to improve my english writing ? more faster!

        Go Shcooll Is already in my mind.but borring!
        To improve writing in English you have to improve your spoken English. That means finding English as second language classes, attending them and working at it.

        I could be wrong but I expect you speak English only when necessary in your daily life. Do you speak English at home and with friends? Or do you speak your own language which is easier? You can't master a language unless you use it consistently.

        Many communities offer free or very cheap English classes. If you think it's boring to learn something that will improve your future - you have the wrong attitude.

        kay
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  • Profile picture of the author John Robbins
    You need to speak with an English speaking person on a daily basis, maybe someone on the Warrior Forum can work with you on your product? JV perhaps and translation for you into good English copy writing, give it some thought, members are usually very helpful to fellow WF members
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  • Profile picture of the author Kom
    I live in florida , I am bartender and also server, I been around the world, And I spoke english every single time, Broken english probably...!

    This is the thing, Speak about understand people , include body langguage and you can ask the person if you dont understand but , writing is just like that what ever you read that what you think? Am I right.

    Yea right, I have been follow the wariror forum, I am understand what you guys talking about, I understand Listening, But writing ,,, I am such..

    ofcourse I do every day improve my english ,,
    what I am miss here is gramar..

    Pastense
    Today
    future..

    confusing me !
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      • Profile picture of the author Ralph Moore
        Hi Kom,

        I just Googled learn English for free and saw this:

        Learn English Free Online

        Maybe that will help, but there really is no faster way than to work one on one with an English teacher or mentor.
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        • Profile picture of the author Kom
          Originally Posted by eagle View Post

          Hi Kom,

          I just Googled learn English for free and saw this:

          Learn English Free Online

          Maybe that will help, but there really is no faster way than to work one on one with an English teacher or mentor.
          Thank you So much
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      • Profile picture of the author Kom
        Originally Posted by xedric View Post

        It's Past tense, Present, and future...
        Thank you ...For your feed back, That what I want to hear from you , So I feel More pain , and I want Get rid of this Pain, One I got more pain, more I want to change ...XXX

        Thank you

        Note" Dont lough if you saw someone fall, Say Thank , You not fall ! Who Knows what will happen tommorow! yup...If that is funny is ok.

        Kom
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    • Profile picture of the author imicrothinking
      Hey kom,

      In addition to what other warriors posted above, I just wanted to ask - where is your home country? I'm asking because what you can do to improve your english might differ slightly depending on what your native language is. For example, if your native language is based on Latin, or are European, you might just want to read a little more fiction or take some specific writing classes (or even copywriting classes, if youre up to the challenge) to improve the flow of your written expression. If your native tongue is based on a completely different script like Chinese, Russian, Japanese of arabic, then your most important thing you should do is to meet some native speakers, make some friends and speak in English with them on a daily basis, because you'll often find that the style of thinking in English is a bit different than what youre used to in your native language.

      Good luck with improving your English and your online ventures!
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      • Profile picture of the author Kom
        Originally Posted by imicrothinking View Post

        Hey kom,

        In addition to what other warriors posted above, I just wanted to ask - where is your home country? I'm asking because what you can do to improve your english might differ slightly depending on what your native language is. For example, if your native language is based on Latin, or are European, you might just want to read a little more fiction or take some specific writing classes (or even copywriting classes, if youre up to the challenge) to improve the flow of your written expression. If your native tongue is based on a completely different script like Chinese, Russian, Japanese of arabic, then your most important thing you should do is to meet some native speakers, make some friends and speak in English with them on a daily basis, because you'll often find that the style of thinking in English is a bit different than what youre used to in your native language.

        Good luck with improving your English and your online ventures!

        Thank you for your suport

        I am from Indonesia
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    • Profile picture of the author JamieSEO
      Originally Posted by Kom View Post

      I live in florida , I am bartender and also server, I been around the world, And I spoke english every single time, Broken english probably...!
      Hey Kom

      Your writing skills will improve over time.

      Here's a quick trick that is great for learning written English when you are already familiar with speaking...

      Watch English TV/DVDs with the SubTitles enabled (in English). It is a nice way to help learn while not boring you to death If you combine this method with your other classes and reading you will find it quite effective.

      While you are working on that, why not take advantage of your VERBAL English skills?

      Video creation is very easy (just record yourself on your mobile phone). There is always demand for video bloggers, video reviews, "how to" videos, etc.

      You can always setup a gig on Fiverr (free) or advertise in the Warrior Forum classifieds ($20) so you can still earn money while you are improving your writing
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    • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
      Originally Posted by xedric View Post

      Man, your english sucks.... no offense... but it really is, I'm from the Philippines, I have done no special education on english things but got to get used of this language by reading and reading and reading. And that's it! not really aware if my english was that good enough but I think so..
      Your English is fine but I personally thought what you wrote sucked.

      Why don't you offer the man some encouragement and help him instead of p***ing all over him because you can speak English?

      I'm jolly glad everyone doesn't react like you do when someone hasn't quite got to grips with a new language.

      Originally Posted by Kom View Post


      Mr. Richard Van I hope you ok, I call you my new brother.
      That's fine by me brother. Don't forget I want rent free accomodation if I come to Indonesia though.
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      • Profile picture of the author Kom
        Originally Posted by Richard Van View Post



        That's fine by me brother. Don't forget I want rent free accomodation if I come to Indonesia though.
        I will never forgot that mybrother, "You are welcome to Bali anytime"

        I Take care and I keep my word for you. except a Beer...
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  • Profile picture of the author roseca
    you should take some English course. or read grammar books it will help you lot. try to write every day 1 page story or anything related to you or your work.
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  • Profile picture of the author art72
    *Not to exercise my inner demon here, but hearing another non-English speaking poster chiming in to attack the OP almost had me pissing my pants.

    Kom,

    I have read several of your threads, and can respect your will to achieve better writing, and in speaking English, as it's clearly not your 1st language.

    A couple options that crossed my mind were, write in your native tongue, and translate it to English. This may not be an option as you state; you want to write better in English.

    For now, have someone re-write your articles, and website content, until you can perfect it, which takes time, even for some of us who use it as a 1st an ONLY language.:p

    Finally, I don't know if it's cheap, but Rosetta Stone seems to be an option as well.

    If I wasn't busy trying to save my own butt, I'd rewrite your articles, so I am sure someone here would be willing to do the same.

    Keep it up Kom, I respect your persistence.

    All the Best,

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    • Profile picture of the author Kom
      Originally Posted by art72 View Post

      *Not to exercise my inner demon here, but hearing another non-English speaking poster chiming in to attack the OP almost had me pissing my pants.

      Kom,

      I have read several of your threads, and can respect your will to achieve better writing, and in speaking English, as it's clearly not your 1st language.

      A couple options that crossed my mind were, write in your native tongue, and translate it to English. This may not be an option as you state; you want to write better in English.

      For now, have someone re-write your articles, and website content, until you can perfect it, which takes time, even for some of us who use it as a 1st an ONLY language.:p

      Finally, I don't know if it's cheap, but Rosetta Stone seems to be an option as well.

      If I wasn't busy trying to save my own butt, I'd rewrite your articles, so I am sure someone here would be willing to do the same.

      Keep it Kom, I respect your persistence.

      All the Best,

      Art
      I have rosetta Stone , I did try, Now I am try With 365 Days story for kid,
      I am read and write back evry single day , and check what I am missing here,. I can speak But I can not write perfect..

      Like Old People They can Speak But they can not write.

      Thanks you
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  • Profile picture of the author bobbyhuang
    One of the fastest ways to learn any language (english for you) is to read something you are interested in, in the language you are working on learning better.

    If you are interested in comics, read comics in english.

    If you are interested in learning martial arts, read a guide that teaches you martial arts.

    Here are some really helpful links to learn language that I used from Tim Ferriss.

    How to Learn Any Language in 3 Months

    How to Learn (But Not Master) Any Language in 1 Hour (Plus: A Favor)

    I also recommend the Pimsleur program to learn faster. It basically starts with conversational and can go more advanced depending on the language you are learning from.

    I would not recommend Rosetta stone because, it's a 1 shop stop for everyone, meaning they only teach you in the language you are learning. So if you are learning spanish, they only teach in spanish.

    Pimsleur can teach you english from many other languages making it a lot easier to grasp and faster.

    http://www.pimsleur.com/
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  • Profile picture of the author Kom
    I will Never Stop to learn english Especialy Writing,

    The thing is I can not believe some People speak english (perfect writing ) Can not write his own Article, Ehmm... what wrong with That...Braind..Not working ?

    I can make my article, I pass enzine 2 time, now since I am back to learn more english writing I am mass up everything?....every single I write is mean diferent. I feel make Mistake -Mistake and Mistake.

    I create a blog and I make money from adsense $1 to $5 dolar a day with my poor langguage, How about that !

    My blog just less then two month old traffic 100 unique visitor a day (ofcourse with someone help me to reviews my article little bit, I dont want depending on them) my dream, I can write my article by my self and talk about what ever I want !

    You dont have to lie to me that is the truth.. happening on this world...

    Kom
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  • Profile picture of the author dsouravs
    Hi Kom,
    Nice 2 meet U .... U seems very interesting...I am an Indian btw. I read U r from Indo.
    U r soo lucky to be in Florida....I like USA. Read newspapers and books, listen to TV, talk to american ppl...etc....
    Btw love from me...Take Care
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    • Profile picture of the author Kom
      Originally Posted by dsouravs View Post

      Hi Kom,
      Nice 2 meet U .... U seems very interesting...I am an Indian btw. I read U r from Indo.
      U r soo lucky to be in Florida....I like USA. Read newspapers and books, listen to TV, talk to american ppl...etc....
      Btw love from me...Take Care

      I Have no problem talk to people with my english.
      People here forgot something.
      Even you was born and rise in USA or no matter what country, They are some people learn own lagguage more deep. to be the right langguage, I mean langguage is large knowledge..never done,

      If you dont Understand What I mean, This what I mean:
      For example
      They speak english,The still learn english ( more deeper english )

      I am look back my self, I can make very good article in my langguage but what I want is to touch the world, I want good in english writing ,

      Some one want to chalange me , I can talk with them in english, my skype Kombali74

      But Not to write in english..Like I said every time I start to write, my brain mass up..hehehe that such...

      Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author Kom
    I am sure...

    Some people have been read my threads have diferent opinion ?

    --Ahha this thread suck because not making money quick.
    -- What .. What he Said , I dont understant ?
    --Aha this is spam...
    what ever You thing guys,, I need to show you and see what I less In it!

    Finaly Come like this" How to change things when is hard to change "

    Then I write simple step how to make it change.. Now I am following what I said I will never give up.

    Thank you for any feed back.
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  • Profile picture of the author JCorp
    When it comes to learning a foreign language, immersion is key as well as interaction. Speaking English daily and conversationally will help you learn to speak it as well as write it better. Also practice writing stories, chat online (believe it or not that can really help), watch TV
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    • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
      I have spoken to Kom before on Skype and his spoken in English is actually very good. I couldn't understand at first why his writing was the way it is.

      It turns out, as anyone would know, that Indonesian is a very different language in more ways than one. They don't use grammar in their language like we do, so for Kom the concept of grammar, which comes as second nature to native English writers, is something Kom finds hard to grasp.

      This isn't because he isn't clever, he is, in fact he's very clever but the writing aspect is very hard for him. I could go and live in China and after a while (probably a very long while) I could pick up the spoken words. However trying to figure out how to write up and down and in sort of pictures, would no doubt take me far longer. It's not a concept my mind would grasp very quickly.

      I admire Kom, I can see the improvement his English has made in a short while. It has a long way to go but Kom has a big heart and he will get there.

      Keep going Kom and well done mate.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kom
    Hi jCorp
    I read your post at 10 k.

    I am speak english daily, I do chat with people, they have no problem to undertanding my word, but when I try put it that words together on one article , doesn't look clear to point.

    Thank you for coming to my thread

    Appreciate

    All the best,

    What I have to do now,
    I am reading,I am writing,and understanding every single tenses,
    I break down to small part.

    I feel this one great for me, and that doesn't make me borring,
    I am try my best,

    all of because you guys, Thank for support!

    You can do that, Why I am not, Right ?
    All Matter with practice---
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  • Profile picture of the author Kom
    Hi...

    This Guy man...! Mr Richard Van
    Best Friend Ever, He help me A lot... for my articles

    His TOP MAN

    Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author Kom
    Ok...if you understant than is funny

    I was Chat with Some one online to ask help ( hostgator )

    And he did not give me the best answer, And we chat continues.
    What happent after I ask, This is machine answer or what?

    And I said Come on Gays...

    Guess what! he said I am Not Gay...He Stop me there,
    Because I am typing wrong word Suppose Guys But I am type Gays...

    How F**k tuff I am...

    I make people upset because I make small mistake """"""FATAL"""""
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    • Profile picture of the author Richard Van


      Never mind Kom. I got an email from Ed Dale quite a while ago. He has a huge list and he sent it to everyone to promote something or another.

      The subject line was (very similar to this anyway)....

      Richard, you need to get a better clock.
      Sadly for Ed he failed to put the "L" in clock.

      It didn't take him long to send a second email to his list apologising.
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      • Profile picture of the author Kom
        Originally Posted by Richard Van View Post



        Never mind Kom. I got an email from Ed Dale quite a while ago. He has a huge list and he sent it to everyone to promote something or another.

        The subject line was (very similar to this anyway)....



        Sadly for Ed he failed to put the "L" in clock.

        It didn't take him long to send a second email to his list apologising.

        Hahahha...

        I just got it now,,after next day to understant your joke

        Clock Without "L"

        That was funny joke.

        Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author Henry White
    While those suggestions are fine, what you really need is a qualified ESL [English as a Second Language] teacher - and in a face-to-face environment. Books, CDs, or online courses are useful as secondary resources, and especially when you're building your working vocabulary and reading speed and comprehension.

    As far as "reading" well written English, stick with the major newspapers and magazines online, not forums, blogs, social media, or e-mail lists (which tend to imitate what they hear, and is more informal than the standard business English you'll need for writing well and getting paid for it).

    In the meantime, you can help yourself by going into your configuration here at the WF to enable the enhanced interface which is a full-featured WYSIWYG editor with a decent spellcheck: click on 'User CP' at the left of the navigation back near the top of this page, then 'Edit Options' and scroll down to the last section on that page 'Miscellaneous Options.' This does not correct spelling errors, but it does alert you when you misspell a word by underlining in red.

    Now this might be a bit of stretch, but I'm seriously wondering whether Dragon Naturally Speaking might be just the solution you need - if you're spoken English is significantly better than your writing skills would indicate. They've been advertising quite heavily on TV lately; the standard edition is around US$75 but I would recommend the premium edition if you think you might be using the recording feature often enough to warrant doubling the price. (It does a great job handling regional accents, but I don't know how well it might work with yours.)
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      Kom - From your posts here I have always assumed your spoken English was as poor as your written English. Sounds like I was wrong as Richard says you speak well.

      Why not invest in voice to text software (Dragon Naturally Speaking) so that you can speak your articles and the software writes down what you speak? It would take time to get the software used to your way of speaking but it could result in much better articles.

      Around the holidays there are sales on Dragon so you might be able to get a deal on it next month if you plan ahead for the purchase.

      What I don't like in this thread is you seem angry when people are agreeing that your English is bad. You started the thread because of the problems so don't be defensive when others agree and try to help.

      kay
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      • Profile picture of the author Kom
        Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

        Kom - From your posts here I have always assumed your spoken English was as poor as your written English. Sounds like I was wrong as Richard says you speak well.

        What I don't like in this thread is you seem angry when people are agreeing that your English is bad. You started the thread because of the problems so don't be defensive when others agree and try to help.

        kay
        No..No..No..

        I am not angry, I was wrote one story on top,hope you read that, when I am write litle bit wrong spelling word, people take me right over there, no ecxuse ! between guys and gays...

        Believe me I am not like that! , ( If that look angry sound mean I am angry for my self )

        I am appreciate all any feed back like I mention every time

        Guys Please don't get me wrong when I said something make you feel different thing, you can ask me what I mean and I can explain to you in other way,

        Please ..please ..please

        Kom
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      • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
        Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

        What I don't like in this thread is you seem angry when people are agreeing that your English is bad. You started the thread because of the problems so don't be defensive when others agree and try to help.

        kay
        Hi Kay,

        I think that's the trouble. Kom is a really nice calm guy. I've never seen him angry at all, probably because I speak with him and realise his writing just comes across that way at times.

        I assure you though it's just the way it's written and with the way we can mistake each other in forum talk when we write well just goes to show, if someones writing isn't tip top, it makes that little variable even harder.

        I've almost comes to blows with people here and the statement they made was perfectly innocent, it's just the way I interpreted it. I think the trouble is, when you take away the face and voice it can "sound" very different when you read it.

        Not having a crack at you at all Kay, I just like to look after him a bit because he works so hard, has three different bar jobs and genuinely is a really nice chap. I also understand how people can mistake what he writes but he is getting better and he will get there in the end.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kom
    Hi..Kay King

    Let me know with post that sound I am angry!, I will delete it !

    Kom
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  • Profile picture of the author Kom
    Hi... everyone

    I wrote my story with title "You Are Not Alone" Well long stories make it short I loss My brother! I had brother gone forever will never had one anymore.

    "I was totaly wrong"

    What I want to said Here.

    Now...I have new brother from england His name is Richard Van.

    Mr. Richard Van I hope you ok, I call you my new brother.

    If not I will delete this post

    Million thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author kashem
    Many good suggestions that also applicable for me . I live in a country where I hardly get chance to speak English . I am so afraid with my writing that I even do not try to write for my sites . I have to get help from professional writers from English speaking countries.

    I have been suffering hugely for inability to write well to take my business further . Thanks Kom for creating the thread . I am also benefited
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  • Profile picture of the author MattVit
    I find it amusing and cruel (not in a bad way! ... just a .. funny way) that people write HUGE paragraph-long posts in a thread about poor English comprehension... hehe.

    It's like asking a dyslexic person to read a bunch of big, complex words REALLY fast.
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    • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
      Originally Posted by MattVit View Post

      I find it amusing and cruel (not in a bad way! ... just a .. funny way) that people write HUGE paragraph-long posts in a thread about poor English comprehension... hehe.

      It's like asking a dyslexic person to read a bunch of big, complex words REALLY fast.
      It would be funny if Kom couldn't understand written English or he couldn't speak it, fortunately he can do both well, he just has a struggle to write it.

      So it's not actually funny at all!

      The thread is about poor English writing, not comprehension.

      Actually, you appear to be the only one that didn't comprehend that. Now that's funny.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kom
    You Can see how hard I have been tried and I never give up.

    I did so many thread and I got kick so many time, I am still standing here in warrior forum.

    I am not afraid to write even with my poor writing english,
    I see many help improve me here.
    Is not my time yet, I believe in that, maybe a couple more days or months, hopelly not long as that.

    Kom
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      Richard (and Kom) -

      The point is to find a solution to his problem. Learning that his spoken English is much better would seem to suggest using speech to text software, wouldn't it?

      I know he tries as he has been diligent about working in IM for some time. But he may not be able to write content...period. As his spoken English is good he could communicate to outsourcers if he can afford to hire writing done for him.

      But wouldn't DNS make sense here?

      kay
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      • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
        Originally Posted by Kay King View Post


        But wouldn't DNS make sense here?

        kay
        Yes, absolutely.

        It's Christmas soon, so who knows what Santa may bring Kom.

        I wasn't being rude in my last post to you either Kay, I just wanted you to know Kom wasn't being angry.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Kom -- actually, you are getting better. I know you are impatient, but you are learning rapidly and it's going to take time, no matter what you do.

    Keep on practicing. Here is your OP rewritten for you - please notice the differences. The problems you are having are the same as all people when first learning English - past, present, and future of verbs - articles (a, an, the) - prepositions (of, by, with, at, in, over, and so on) These are hard to learn, so just keep practicing, and when in doubt, have a friend show you the right way to write something.


    Your OP
    I am speak english but I am Always fail in writing the correct english,
    Like what you read now,,, Is Suck..Right?

    I would like very much to make my self good on writing english as american or british writer.

    I Know This is One of thing I really need. Because soon I will make my self fulltime on internet Marketing. I love it doing this now.

    I dont know why ? I am second tired work for somebody. They make alot of money and me still the same but getting worse!

    I have good project for future and need good writing english.

    I am learning from 365 days stories for kid,
    I keep reading and writing everyday.

    Please Any suggestion for me to improve my english writing ? more faster!

    Go Shcooll Is already in my mind.but borring!..

    I am Realy need it!

    Any Ideas to make it faster...Please

    Million thank you
    Corrected OP:
    I speak English, but always fail in writing correctly,
    Like what you are reading now,,, It sucks..Right?

    I would like very much to make my self write well in English as an American or British writer.

    I know this is one of the things I really need because soon I will make my self a full-time Internet Marketer. I love it doing this now.

    I dont know why. I am sick and tired of working for somebody. They make alot of money, and me, I still get the same, but that's getting worse!

    I have good project for the future and need good Enlgish writiing skills.

    I am learning everyday from kid's stories. I keep reading and writing everyday.

    Please, any suggestions for me to improve my English writing skills faster?

    Going to school is already in my mind,.but borring!..

    I really need it!

    Any Ideas to make it faster...Please?

    A million thank yous.
    For right now, just read the two outloud and notice the difference.
    Pay attention to the articles (a, an, the,) that come before nouns.
    Only capitalize the first word of a sentence and nouns that are names of places or people - such as names of countries (America, American, England, British)
    Also - when you are talking about someone doing something right NOW -- you need to add an "ing" to the verb and the word is, am, are, (state of being verbs) in front of the action verb -- like this.
    I am running.
    She is thinking.
    He is complaining.
    There are exceptions to these rules, of course, but learn the rules first and then lean the exceptions. You can't learn it all in a week. Sorry.

    Again, Kom -- I can see your improvement! When you first came to the forum you made no sense at all. Now you still make some mistakes, but we can tell what you are trying to say, and that is a big improvement. You should be proud to be progressing so fast!
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  • Profile picture of the author Kom
    Wow after You polish my thread look much much better!

    and you make my thread very interesting to read.

    Thank you Heysal
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  • Profile picture of the author Kom
    For Who Reading this thread
    What I did to learning english Is Like this:

    I am reading 25%
    I am listening 50%
    I am speaking 80%
    Then Now I am writing 5%
    This is Where I am fail Writing well !

    Now I have to go back far away back to release this.

    Thank you for all the support
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      • Profile picture of the author HeySal
        Originally Posted by xedric View Post

        There's no such thing as "DUMB"... and so you are not.. perhaps the problem is the concentration of the getting to used of things... or maybe you have something like a disorder that lets your writing skills drop off...
        Oh yeah there is - some people are stone stupid.

        Kom , however, is extremely bright. I've talked to him. He's also got a lot of soul. He's a kewl guy.

        Kom - I have worked in tourism a lot, too. It's the most fun someone can have while making a paycheck. It gets you out to wherever you want to go and see, too. I'm actually looking into getting an ecological specialist certificate so I can get paid well while going back into tourism - ecotourism. Love it.

        Just remember - spoken language is instinctual so is much easier to learn than written language, which is not instinctual. I spent a lot of time in France and used to speak French pretty well, although, I've forgotten most of it after decades of not using it. I never did write well in French though. Mostly what it did was ruin my spelling. LOL.
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        • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
          I'm going to toss in another suggestion.

          Kom, forget about making "perfect" written English.

          Maybe focus on finding something else to generate some money, and then use that money to pay for someone else to do your re-writing for you.

          There must be some other skill you can monetize on or that might be easier for you to learn quicker that can help you generate money?

          You say you have an idea now on what you want on a site. Would your time be better spent doing something else that might enable you to hire a translator? Do you have kids or a family member who has a better grasp on the writing?
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          • Profile picture of the author Kom
            Originally Posted by Jill Carpenter View Post

            I'm going to toss in another suggestion.

            Kom, forget about making "perfect" written English.

            Maybe focus on finding something else to generate some money, and then use that money to pay for someone else to do your re-writing for you.

            There must be some other skill you can monetize on or that might be easier for you to learn quicker that can help you generate money?

            You say you have an idea now on what you want on a site. Would your time be better spent doing something else that might enable you to hire a translator? Do you have kids or a family member who has a better grasp on the writing?
            I was thinking like that also,but what I need on my projects english article , if I have to buy article all the time I will spent to much money, I will not stop to learn english writing skill, I have no body right now even I have some help I not feel good to ask help all the time for this, I know everybody busy for something else .

            But thank you for your sugestion, The same time I am learning writing skill, I making money also, I am not full-time IM yet. But conten is king...

            Thank you
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  • Profile picture of the author Kom
    Yes ...thank you Xedric

    I am Speak Tagalog a little bit also. I understant when you speaking tagalog,

    If I ask you in tagalog this will you understant
    " Sa an Nasakatira Sa pilipina mu ?


    ehhe I speak tagalog , Right ?

    thanks
    Kom
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  • Profile picture of the author Kom
    Hi..here my short stories of english

    Back to 1987 when I was at middle school, That time I love to learning english, I very easy to undertant english grammar not complete yet, so far, all change when start to happen like this,

    My point test always 8-9 point my teacher like the way I am , but the time I dont learn I have surprice test on myclass, I was get 3 point ,my teacher look at me so angry, like tiger look, and since that time my teacher always make a joke with my poin,
    she alway mention said " Kom you are always get good point and what happen you let your self get bird ( mean 3 point we call bird point ) one one two time I got it the message. but she keep that all the time every english lesson, make me mad, since that time I am dont like english ( I dont blame her, It was my fall , I follow the message wrong ). and never learn english more deep anymore since that time. just pass the lesson I am ok.

    I finish my school for engeneer, 1990 I work at one the populer hotel in Bali "Bali Beach Hotel" if you been to bali you know this hotel. Ihad just 1 years there because I dont like to be engeneer any more, then I went to scholl for a year learn F & B.
    the same time I take school I am training in one hotel in "Paradiso bali hotel" as a waiter. Then jump again to the "Ramada Bintang Bali Hotel" for about 6 months also I have part time job at time I was more dream for that job, but it was not best luck for that job if yes I am probably actor in indonesa already.

    Time going fast, with all of life changing, 1998 I am out from my country adventure all over the world make some money. now I am end up here florida.

    After I know about internet I am search and I am in love with Business Online,

    Now I need writing english skill here.
    This is happpen to me..

    aahhh.. Feel tired but I will never stop till here..


    Thank you.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Ralph
    Originally Posted by Kom View Post

    HI , I am Kom

    I am speak english but I am Always fail in writing the correct english,
    Like what you read now,,, Is Suck..Right?

    I would like very much to make my self good on writing english as american or british writer.

    I Know This is One of thing I really need. Because soon I will make my self fulltime on internet Marketing. I love it doing this now.

    I dont know why ? I am second tired work for somebody. They make alot of money and me still the same but getting worse!

    I have good project for future and need good writing english.

    I am learning from 365 days stories for kid,
    I keep reading and writing everyday.

    Please Any suggestion for me to improve my english writing ? more faster!

    Go Shcooll Is already in my mind.but borring!..

    I am Realy need it!

    Any Ideas to make it faster...Please

    Million thank you
    I would suggest talking to English speaking people as much as possible. Maybe the easiest way to do it is through skype or chat rooms or maybe eve MSN messenger.

    I'm sure you could find people on the forum willing to chat with you, or maybe even people that wish to learn your native language. So you could both get something out of it, that way you teach and learn from each other.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kom
      Originally Posted by CoastlineMedia View Post

      I would suggest talking to English speaking people as much as possible. Maybe the easiest way to do it is through skype or chat rooms or maybe eve MSN messenger.

      I'm sure you could find people on the forum willing to chat with you, or maybe even people that wish to learn your native language. So you could both get something out of it, that way you teach and learn from each other.
      I Do Post My skype

      If Someone want to chat with me.

      I post again

      My skype Kombali74

      All of you welcome to talk to me

      Please welcome Teach me , bit me to better english

      Thanks Kom
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  • Profile picture of the author Kom
    My skype Kombali74

    let talk about everything !

    I am On right now.

    Thanks
    Kom
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  • Profile picture of the author Kom
    I still didn't make it well till now yet
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  • Profile picture of the author salegurus
    Hi Kom
    I'm sure most of us admire your willingness to master the English language
    but bumping your own thread every 15 minutes is not doing you any favors.
    All you are doing is clogging up the main forum...
    Cheers
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  • Profile picture of the author Chicago87
    Kom, I will be happy to assist you. If you want to chat or something, I can help.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kom
      Originally Posted by Chicago87 View Post

      Kom, I will be happy to assist you. If you want to chat or something, I can help.
      you are always welcome

      Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author dagaul101
    One way of learning English is to simply watch English tv shows, it's a fun way too
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  • Profile picture of the author Kom
    Heysal, you are right!

    Spoke more easy then writteen langguage,There are some people can writte but Everytime the want to speak they have feelling butterfly in the stomach (Nervous).
    and hard to communicate.

    Anyone have feeling to help my grammar
    Please contact me at my Skype "Kombali74"
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  • Profile picture of the author Kom
    Aha,, now you know I dont learn one language ?
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  • Profile picture of the author RobKonrad
    Hi Kom,

    first of all, it's great that you're honest and seek help! That's the first step.

    Apart from the obvious (taking classes) - you have the best learning effects when learning = fun. I'm also not a native speaker, but what has helped me a lot was to watch every movie I could get (DVDs) in English, with subtitles "on". Even if you are talking well enough, if you READ what you HEAR that helps a lot.

    Cheers,
    Rob Konrad
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  • Profile picture of the author JerrickYeoh
    Try to study more article and professional blog. You will learn alot about their languages and their writing skill. If would be the best you can learn now how they use attractive subject and smart use of keywords without feel spammy.

    I face the problem like you which have poor english , that why i do hire part time english teacher to help me up .
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  • Profile picture of the author jagthehat
    First of all Kom, dump the kid's books and go to an evening class for pronunciation and basic grammar. Don't consider conversation classes yet. It is going to take you a year to get the basics and then you have to read and read good English books.
    Google a list of famous English and American writers and then download free books from 'gutenbergproject.com.'
    Or buy from abebooks.com (cheaper than most) an old copy of 'The Norton Anthology of Fiction'.This is a book of short stories written by good authors. Good Luck.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Kids books teach simple constructions - which are needed to go further. Of course, you don't want to read kid's books forever - but don't dis them. They are improving his writing rapidly. Of course, you don't want that to be all you read, but they are doing the trick.

    I like that your use of verbs is improving. Once you get good at all the verb forms we have, everything else will come a lot easier.
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  • Profile picture of the author jumpa
    I think you better try to become insurance sales consultant or financial consultant so you will try hard to upgrade your english
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    • Profile picture of the author Susanrh
      Hi Kom, As your spoken English is good and you seem to get plenty of practice, then more reading will help you.
      Children's books are good because they are usually designed to make learning easy. But try to choose books, or comics or magazines whatever, that interest you too.
      Do you have access to a public library? They'll have books of all grades some specially written for people who are learning English, and once you find books that interest you you'll absorb the written language without even realising it.

      As for getting nervous when you sit down to write many writers feel like that! And please don't think that you have to get it right first time, nobody does that!
      Write what you feel then read it out loud, or get someone else to read it to you then you'll be able to hear what needs changing.
      Have a dictionary handy so that you can look up anything that you are not sure about.

      As many people have said your English is improving and will improve with everything you write and the key to writing well will be to read as much good writing as you can.

      You've got a good grasp of the spoken language which is the hardest part your writing can only improve you can do it, I really believe that you can because you're willing to try.

      Good luck

      Susan
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  • Profile picture of the author Kom
    Thank you very much guys.

    I keep learning from anywhere to improve my english especialy writing

    Thanks again.

    Kom
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  • Profile picture of the author magiclouie
    Originally Posted by Kom View Post

    HI , I am Kom

    I am speak english but I am Always fail in writing the correct english,
    Like what you read now,,, Is Suck..Right?

    I would like very much to make my self good on writing english as american or british writer.

    I Know This is One of thing I really need. Because soon I will make my self fulltime on internet Marketing. I love it doing this now.

    I dont know why ? I am second tired work for somebody. They make alot of money and me still the same but getting worse!

    I have good project for future and need good writing english.

    I am learning from 365 days stories for kid,
    I keep reading and writing everyday.

    Please Any suggestion for me to improve my english writing ? more faster!

    Go Shcooll Is already in my mind.but borring!..

    I am Realy need it!

    Any Ideas to make it faster...Please

    Million thank you
    Hello there Kom,

    Don't worry mate, there will always be a room for improvement.

    Although, I still need to do something with my English, let me share you some of the basics. I hope other warriors can correct my English as well if it's necessary.

    From what I have seen in your thread post, you are having troubles with the verb, both the action verb (aka main verb) and the linking verb.

    If you use these common linking verbs like: am, is, are, was, and were, the main verbs that will follow should always be in the ing form or in the past participle form (form 3).

    For example, when you say, "I am speak english but I am Always fail in writing the correct english.", although the right one should be I can speak English, but in relation to what I have shared, am is the linking verb, so the main verb "speak", should be in the ing form of the verb, now you can say, I am speaking English.

    More examples:

    She is writing her first article.
    I am doing fine.
    They are giving you lots of wonderful suggestions.

    Now this time, linking verb + the past particle form of the main verb

    I am told that you are a hardworking person. (tell is the simple form, told is the past participle form)

    The ebook is sold for only $5. (sell is the simple form, sold is the past participle form)

    More power to you, Kom.

    Just keep on reading and writing.

    Cheers,
    Louie Tugas
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  • Profile picture of the author Kom
    I Knew already, I will get a lot of helps on this forum,
    I was a free member in this forum and still get bunafit, That was I wanted,

    I need to mentioned " WARRIOR FORUM IS THE BEST "

    I Wrote a couple of threads about me and what make me feel down a little bit is about english written skill, but I am happy even though I am will take more, more time than I expected to learn, that's okay for me, At least, I have a big mission to change something, this is it , I need to learn " English writting skill " I was feel Like a small baby less than 4 years old.
    I can speak english but I am very poor on written english,
    Now I am learning from my mistake !

    Millions thank
    For all Warrior forum family have been spent time for me
    Well, I Knew it , to make it change something for good is not easy, need time and right momment and I hope this is the right moment for me,
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  • Profile picture of the author matthewfermin
    If you want to learn how to write the best thing for you to do is to take english classes so you will learn how to speak english and from there you will be able to write good stuff.
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    • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
      Originally Posted by matthewfermin View Post

      If you want to learn how to write the best thing for you to do is to take english classes so you will learn how to speak english and from there you will be able to write good stuff.
      Best thing for you to do is take some reading classes then you wouldn't have written what you just did.

      Kom - I can speak english but I am very poor on written english,
      Matthew, he can speak English, he struggles to write it, despite trying to learn.
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  • Profile picture of the author alok24smart
    You read something and then write the same in your own words. Get somebody to evaluate your writing and every time refine your writing as much as you can. Good Luck... !
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