Fake Clickbank's Proof of Earnings

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I thought I share this video I came across yesterday about how CB proof of
earnings could be faked. Certainly not to encourage the practice but to show
what some marketers may or may not be doing.

The video on youtube is less than 2 minutes long but it is an eye-opener.

Clickbank proof of earnings could be easily faked with a Javascipt.
Couldn't believe it. May be I'm just being naive.

Not sure if people are actually doing the stuff the guy shows on the video.

However it just makes you wonder, the next time you see a proof of earning
on display in a salesletter.

Here is the link.


What do you guys think.
#clickbank #earnings #fake #proof
  • Profile picture of the author iron1
    Yes sadly this happens often. This script is very easy to implement. The parasites that do this should be banned from the internet completely!
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    • Profile picture of the author Eric Lorence
      Originally Posted by iron1 View Post

      Yes sadly this happens often. This script is very easy to implement. The parasites that do this should be banned from the internet completely!
      You might want to loose the Aff link in your sig... :rolleyes:
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  • Profile picture of the author Joseph Then
    This is not new. What I rather believe are real photos of Clickbank checks. That is much harder to fake.
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    • Profile picture of the author Bruce Wedding
      Originally Posted by Joseph Then View Post

      This is not new. What I rather believe are real photos of Clickbank checks. That is much harder to fake.
      Do what? I suck at Photoshop. I also missed the name in the memo, but you get the idea. Clone stamp tool, a little blur, opacity and transform. Done

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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Mason
    I didn't watch the video, but I've seen it before. This shows up occasionally, and unfortunately there are many people out there that do make fake Clickbank stats. It is just a way to attract people, but it is unethical.

    On the reverse side though, I have known some people that make fake stats to downplay their real success to make it more believable. Also, I saw one site where somebody posted a nice CB screenshot, but admitted it was not her own stats, but just used for inspiration.

    I think it is best to just use your real pictures, if you use any pictures at all. Better yet, make a video of you logging in to Clickbank and showing your proof that way. It is much harder to fake stats in a video.
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  • Profile picture of the author HarveyJ
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  • Profile picture of the author Varistas
    Yeah, I have read and heard it was rather simple to fake the earning.

    Sadly, It is. I know it can be photoshopped and usually do not believe "proof of earnings".
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  • Profile picture of the author magwoi
    Yes that is old.

    A good way to prove your earnings is to show a real live video of yourself loging onto your acccount and proving your adsense/CB earnings live on your computer monitor.

    Magwoi
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  • Profile picture of the author elishahong
    I knew about fake Clickbank photos but never thought that it could be easily edited in such a manner. Thanks for posting this!
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  • Profile picture of the author dwshoup
    Personally I ignore testimonials,(they wouldn't be there if they didn't say something good) and proof of earnings in any sales letter.

    When I hit them that is when I just scroll down to see the price.
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    • Profile picture of the author Marhelper
      That is why Click Bank stats should just be supplementary data when considering purchasing a product. A potential buyer should always look at traffic, SERPS, etc .. If someone is claiming high revenue but the traffic stats AND search engine ranking do not bear it out ... run!
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  • Profile picture of the author Tom Sindoni
    Its amazing what people will do to make a little extra money.
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  • Profile picture of the author JesseM
    You can fake anything if you just copy the source, and edit the numbers in a new file.

    I'm not condoning it, just saying it always throws up red flags for me. The exact opposite of what the writer intended, no?

    The only time I can remember trusting one is when Frank Kern used it as a proof, but he didn't rely on it alone to be the end-all proof -- despite his name (and amazing copy, video testimonials, etc.).
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  • Profile picture of the author sevenish
    This is old news, but certainly bears repeating.

    Several WSO sellers, as well as countless other vendors routinely use fake earnings "screenshots" and fabricated testimonials. One such WSO vendor made the disastrous mistake of using a certain UK celebrity's image in a fake testimonial. Whoops!

    Yeah, vendors fake it all the time. Do your due diligence so you don't get burned.
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  • Profile picture of the author lacraiger
    the name looks photoshopped. diff font and uneven.
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  • Profile picture of the author meisters
    Is not clickbank only has fake payment proof even big and trusted online payment company has fake payment proof like paypal, liberty reserve, alertpay.

    Usually at PTR, PTC and HYIP site has fake payment.
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  • Profile picture of the author terryd
    Agreed, that check looks really fake and is easy to spot.
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  • Profile picture of the author Scott Moody
    That check is easily spotted as a fake. If I were going to fake it, I would at least choose a much higher $ amount.


    Remember, believe little of what you hear; and even less of what you see.


    Seriously, I never go for those earnings statements.
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  • Profile picture of the author Skylot
    This is really an eye opener .Its amazing how people can really fake their sale letters with those huge clickbank paychecks.
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  • Profile picture of the author artwebster
    If you want to show yourself as receiving massive cheques as income, go to your bank and ask for some blank cheques.
    These cheques have only the bank header and blank lines for payee and amount on them and you can fill them out however you wish and copy any machine readable details for the bottom edge.
    I have seen these used extensively on a 'gifting' site sales page.

    You can also copy any cheque and simply edit the details.

    Just don't try to cash one!
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  • Profile picture of the author David_Thompson
    So what if you get direct deposit from clickbank?

    That's why I love the way some people market
    or promote product without all this showing
    earnings crap...

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  • Profile picture of the author cleaning72
    i often saw many fake screenshots about clickbank earnings.
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  • Profile picture of the author mattgee09
    I think that if these people put the same effort into their actual products as they do into faking their earnings they'd probably be better off.
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  • Profile picture of the author Cynthia A.
    Clickbank has new TOS & one of them is that you can no longer show CB checks. I don't think you can show your earnings either but I'm not sure. I have to re-read that section.
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    • Profile picture of the author magneticweb
      The only answer is to do due diligence. Look for testimonials and check them out. Write and ask how long it took the seller to make money with the program. Chances are that if it's a scam the seller won't want to get into a dialog with you, and may well not even reply.

      Come to that, who is the seller? Is he/she well known? Have you heard of them before? Check them out on the forums. That goes for the product itself as well.

      Look into everything with an enquiring mind and ask - does it stack up? Would it stand up in court? If the seller's doing so well then why is he selling it to you?

      And above all, just look at what is being offered. Does it look and sound as if it can deliver what it promises? Does it belong in the real world, or just the airy-fairy world of get-rich-quick?

      It's easy to believe what you want to believe - most of us have done it at some time. Another thing is this - I never take any notice of claims that the price is set to go up after today, or in a few days' time. I've lost count of the number of times I've read that claim, and returned to the same site a couple of months later and found the item still listed at the same price, with the same kind of deadline before the price goes up . . .
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  • Profile picture of the author Droopy Dawg
    So much deception... I see some guys act as though their "clicking thru" their many clickbank accounts... and that "you can't fake this"... yes you can.

    I'm a web programmer and I know exactly how they do it. They'd take their "faked" earnings page, and create like 5 different pages with different "faked" earnings with different usernames.

    Then they create jpegs of the screenshots.

    You can then take your jpeg'd screenshots and put it into a web page.

    Then you can create an image map over the links that you want to click and link them to your different pages that you've just created.

    I've been building websites and web apps for a looong time now... I know exactly ho they do it.

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    • Profile picture of the author New Life
      An excellent way of discovering wether the earnings are legitamite or not..

      When this particular piece of java is entered and the adjustments made, i believe that if the person was to refresh the screen then the java would be cleared revealing if the "proof" was real or not..

      Obviously this is hard to determine when your watching a video and the person doesnt refresh..however it might be worth highlighting therefore any future sellers intending to display proof of earnings might add this in their video to put minds at ease...or drop them an email requesting it..someone with nothing to hide would gladly verify their figures if it ment cementing a sale!!

      no doubt they'll find a way round that as well though
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    • Profile picture of the author Steve Johns
      This has been going on for years and until Clickbank changed their rules, nothing has been done to stop it.

      Recently a marketer asked me to review a new site of his then proceeded to tell me that he hadn't made but a handful of sales in the last month.

      When I looked at the site it showed 4 snapshots that indicated he was making 5 figures a month from each account. lol

      Desperate people take desperate measures...

      Personally I never use them on any of the products I sell.
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  • Profile picture of the author Craig Fenton
    Hi there:

    Thanks for the info. Could we add something else to the post? It doesn't stop at faking the revenue somebody claims they made. Let's pretend for our example a person's ClickBank earnings were documented and 100 percent factual. A newcomer to marketing may feel this has to be the greatest product ever (I'm making up a name) "Earning Millions In Seconds Doing Nothing." The key is not what the creator of the product earned by selling newcomers the download but what were the earnings from the tools showed within the product? If they earned 400,000 American money because they sold a ton of downloads that isn't going to make the newcomer learn the proper path to their own financial windfall.

    Should be profit from contents not profit from sales.

    Thanks and have a great night.
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  • Profile picture of the author earlkohn
    Yes, this is a harsh reality. Sad but true. Marketers fake their earnings all the time and many innocent people fall victim to their lies, and lose money. Sad.


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  • Profile picture of the author Tony Vercetti
    This isnt anything really new tho, there are many ways to fake earnings, Javascript, photoshop, etc. Plus even if the earnings are real, there is no guarantee that they have been generated with the "system" that the author is selling, they might well be the sales generated for the actual ebook, and not by using its contents.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kunle Olomofe
    Hilariously sad.

    Just goes to show the internet is in poor shape if it's folks that can fake stuff that make the most money selling junk. Those of us who don't use fake earnings and simply say it like it is (and DON'T even show earnings proof) are soon going to be completely extinct.

    Law of the jungle and a bunch of very naive buyers.

    Makes me sick to my stomach. I really am gonna puke. Really.
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  • Profile picture of the author Anomaly1974
    If it can be displayed on a computer screen, it can be faked. Look for real testimonials with real links to real sites and see if they are real people. If the marketer is smart, he will set up the links to open on a new page so you never even have to leave their sales page. That at least gives some credibility to the claims made.

    Just my two cents
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  • Profile picture of the author aardanyul
    yeah never trust screenshots, they can be easily tampered.
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  • Profile picture of the author bouk
    Yes, it is very easy to fake the cheque or the earnings using photoshop. Maybe we have to think other new way to show proof of earning!
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    • Profile picture of the author Kunle Olomofe
      Originally Posted by bouk View Post

      Maybe we have to think other new way to show proof of earning!
      Yeah like why don't I invite you to my house, we take a ride together to the bank and I show my entire bank statement right there, LIVE, wouldn't you just love to invade my privacy a little more, and oh forget the fact I'm simply showing off now, I just want to PROVE I'm not one of those liars who would sink so low as to fake my income statements!

      What a stupid idea to start with. Whoever first did this is an idiot.

      I once showed my email inbox showing my clickbank sales but not as proof of earnings cos you didn't see a TOTAL amount, I just wanted to share the euphoria I felt when my inbox started to look more like I'd always hoped for.

      It was to encourage, not show off, or prove I wasn't lying. Though I can see how there appears to be a very fine line.

      Still, I only ever did that once because it HAD to be done, the point of the product I was selling was based on seeing income after you had only ever seen "static" in your inbox. I showed no total earnings, just a cross section screen shot--which I did not fake by the way--though I admit, I removed all other messages so the effect of the emails together was more "blood pumping".

      My point is, I understand it's a sales and motivational strategy especially for the web but it has been allowed and ENCOURAGED to go to far. People wanting to pry into others private coffers are the ones encouraging them to lie. Besides if you would just try to buy products that sounded more down to earth, all this crap would be unnecessary.

      When people start saying crap like I made "$537,980.78" in "7 Days" then people start wanting to see the faked or supposedly real screen shots of that baloney, and I KNOW who started that craze, I was there when he first did it.

      I knew then it would turn into a free for all feeding, stealing and lying frenzy.

      I was right. By the way, if you're doing this with really good intentions, then you're not the one I'm talking to, but frankly how can we tell anymore?

      The lies are killing this business for us honest, straight talking folks.

      No one (or few) wants to hear how to earn realistic amounts of money these days, they want to hear from the guys who claim to have "made $350,563.90 in 90 days... DOING NOTHING by the way"! What utter rubbish.

      It's the perversion many of US bring to this business and the greed to want to see and possess those dollars (many of us--yes BOTH the sellers AND buyers---don't even really deserve) that is causing this, and killing this business.

      For God's sake, lets put a stop to this... It's really eeky (to put it mildly)!

      This brings to mind a bible verse I just read recently...

      "Do not love the world or anything in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For everything in the world--the cravings of sinful man, the lust of his eyes and the boasting of what he has and does--comes not from the Father but from the world. The world and its desires pass away, but the man who does the will of God lives forever." 1 JOHN 2 VERSES 15-17

      ...I don't know about you, but that sounds so much like what is going on on the web these days, it's eerie seeing it in a 2,000 year old book!

      Not preaching at anyone, just airing my 2 cents, and why I think we all really need to come together and put a stop to this nonsense and boastful, unhelpful behaviour... Like I said once before, it is SICKENING!

      .. It also turns out to attract the dregs of the society into our fold...

      Go figure!

      Cheers,

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  • Profile picture of the author jlandells
    The challenge that I see is that people are becoming so sceptical of these "proof" images, that we as marketers need to come up with different strategies. I believe that the people who will ultimately win are those who can be innovative with their marketing whilst maintaining their honesty and their credibility.

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  • Profile picture of the author jlandells
    Kunle,

    Great verse - very appropriate!

    -John.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kunle Olomofe
      Originally Posted by jlandells View Post

      Kunle,

      Great verse - very appropriate!

      -John.
      You bet John. Isn't it spooky?

      Originally Posted by jlandells View Post

      we as marketers need to come up with different strategies. I believe that the people who will ultimately win are those who can be innovative with their marketing whilst maintaining their honesty and their credibility.

      -John.
      Hear, hear!

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  • Profile picture of the author dibbo
    There are also many people about proving how much they earn from Google. Problem is that so many are showing the same check from Google for $5,000 dated Oct 25th - with the name blacked out.
    My favorite bit of earnings fakery recently, involved yet another Ferrari. In case you missed this one, search for "Ferrari man's true identity revealed" :-)

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  • Profile picture of the author jasondinner
    It's unfortunate because I like to take screenshots of all of my affiliate earnings.

    But it's because of people that pull this sh*t that may make my earnings less believable.

    Oh well. I will still do it because it does boost conversions.
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