Help me Build a LIST !

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Hello Warrior's,

I am in this IM industry from about 3-4 years but honestly never cared of making a LIST because i really wasn't sure if it works or not,etc

I'm a very down to earth person and don't believe in people's rumour that Mr. XX made $10k with his list, etc

I test things myself and then come to a conclusion if it works or not.

Now I'm thinking to build a list of subscribers and see if the rumours of "MONEY IS IN THE LIST" is true or not !

So

If you have built a LIST or could tell me the best and easiest way to build a list fast.... I will actually come to know if the myth is really true !

I will later post here if i succeed or fail !!

hope you guys will help me out

Regards
~Sam~
#build #list
  • Profile picture of the author TiffLee
    Briefly, you are looking at two considerably popular options:

    (i). Create a product of your own and place it on a squeeze page. Attract traffic to the squeeze page however you see fit (SEO, JVs, etc.) and allow access to your free report only after an opt-in is completed.

    (ii). Secondly, you could create the same product and sell it. You could sell it, for example, on the Warrior Forum as a WSO and use Warrior+ to automatically capture the leads of those people who purchase off of you.

    ... whichever route you decide to embark on, you need to remember that the money is not "in the list;" the money is in a "well-treated list." Shower them with positive and high-quality information. Provide free products when you can. Do not ... and I mean it ... send out nothing but affiliate offers to your list. I've been on a few of those (run by people who are Warriors) and I've unsubscribed and lost respect for those people so fast that it would have made your head spin.

    Again, those are just two options (briefly covered) on how to go about building a list for the first time.
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  • Profile picture of the author RyanLB
    Money is definitely in listbuilding. If you run any type of service where return customers are a must - listbuilding is your friend.

    I always try to offer something free in exchange for joining my list.
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  • Profile picture of the author TopKat22
    Do keyword research to find a good niche.

    Get Domain name.

    Get hosting.

    Put up a high converting squeeze page.

    Set up your auto responder.

    Add optin box to the squeeze page.

    Set up follow up emails in auto responder.

    Get traffic.

    Make sure to offer lots of value without promoting too much stuff right away to keep your list from unsubscribing.

    If you want more details, there are free courses available that take you through list building step by step.

    Good luck.

    BTW, I tried a lot of other things and list building has worked the best for me.

    Once I got it down to a system, I get one niche going, it takes about a month, then I go and start on another niche and do it all over again.
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  • Profile picture of the author Top Dog Marketer
    The EASIEST way to build a list is offer something valuable up front for free. Don't just do it to get them on your list.

    Provide something valuable that they will actually enjoy first, and then try to see if they'd like a more advanced guide/report/etc.
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  • Profile picture of the author Seth Bias
    As TiffLee stated.

    "Do not ... and I mean it ... send out nothing but affiliate offers to your list"

    Read that about 3 times.

    Now you want to take care of your list. Treat them like you would treat your mother. Give them gifts and keep them all happy. Then down the line maybe pop in a offer from your own products or a affiliate. But that is after you gain all there trust and they love you for all the awesome information you send them.

    If you are one of those marketers that send 1-3 emails a day online trying to sell sell sell most people will do what I do. Unsubscribe.

    Wish you luck on your list building journey!
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    • Profile picture of the author Samrath Gupta
      here is what I'm thinking to do !

      Since i'm a full time Im'er so i am planning to build a website cum blog where i am willing to share what other big boys will not share

      if i put a subscribe to this website or blog on the sidebar. Do you think it could work ?
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      • Profile picture of the author TiffLee
        Originally Posted by Samrath Gupta View Post

        Since i'm a full time Im'er so i am planning to build a website cum blog where i am willing to share what other big boys will not share

        if i put a subscribe to this website or blog on the sidebar. Do you think it could work ?
        ... :confused::confused::confused:

        Not sure where you are going with this.
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      • Profile picture of the author TopKat22
        Originally Posted by Samrath Gupta View Post

        here is what I'm thinking to do !

        Since i'm a full time Im'er so i am planning to build a website cum blog where i am willing to share what other big boys will not share

        if i put a subscribe to this website or blog on the sidebar. Do you think it could work ?
        Yes, you can do that, and I've done it but with much more work and much less fast results.

        I have found that if you give a lot of great data on a site, the people may or may not sign up. There have been different opinions about this on this forum.

        However, test it for yourself. I tested it for myself in a couple niches where I had created the blog first with a sign up box. I got a few sign ups.

        I then listened to the big boys and created a squeeze page and with much less work, I get a 75% sign up rate.

        So to further test it, I created a squeeze page for a client who had a very high traffic website and several blogs all with sign up boxes on them.

        The squeeze page I put up for him not only got to page one of google (and I just check, is still there right now) but gets many more sign ups then all the other site pages and blogs put together.

        So now, I always have a squeeze page.

        If you already have a domain name, then create the squeeze page on a subdomain like yourdomain.com/specialoffer or something like that.

        If you don't have a domain name yet, make the squeeze page the index/home page and make the blog the subdomain.

        Either way, test for yourself both. You can put up a squeeze page in a few minutes if you already have a domain and hosting, so you might as well try both.

        And there are many ways to get targetted traffic.
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    • Profile picture of the author Samrath Gupta
      Originally Posted by sbias View Post

      Now you want to take care of your list. Treat them like you would treat your mother. Give them gifts and keep them all happy.
      hey Sbias- liked your example of MOTHER lol also liked that weapon in your hand in your avatar
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  • Profile picture of the author TopKat22
    It seems like we are all on the same page, give value and respect your subscribers.

    I also give a bit of an overview of what to expect in the first email I send out.

    And make sure that whatever you offer on the squeeze page, you actually deliver.
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    • Profile picture of the author seabird
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      Sam
      you have 2 choices the free one like getresponse.com
      or my favorite facebook page like or the paid one
      like awaber or you can have jump start by buying other person email list
      and follow up with them keep me posted about your success my friend
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      • Profile picture of the author sanhal
        As well as all the advice already given for your lead magnet " free gift" the fastest way of getting traffic to it is probably to buy a solo ad.

        Of course it pays to have an optin funnel set up so you can make some money to help pay for the solo ad. Once the visitor has opted into your list you send them to a low priced affiliate offer or a OTO which can be a product of your own.

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  • Profile picture of the author Sam Young
    I manage a list of 600+ subs and I send them a email once a week mostly on Sunday evening and get nice results !!

    I mostly give them a FREEBIE..

    I builded my list by a simple SQUEEZE page offering them a report written by me
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  • Profile picture of the author Anthony Flatt
    Use Squeeze Pages and Blogs to build a list is the norm.

    Here is another creative way to build a list FAST. I did not come up with this by the way it is a Lee McIntyre method used by many.

    Build a ultra high quality, ultra high value product worth more than $497. The product really HAS to have a $497 value or more. You need to way over deliver on this one. A membership site with a ton of high value content might work for this. I know this is a lot of work but you said you wanted to build a list you didn't say you didn't want to have to do some work for it.

    Put it on clickbank for $47 and give 80% of the commission to the affiliates. If the product really is worth $497 you should do well at $47.

    If it is a membership site the buyer has to create an account which will give you their email and contact information. An optin form for future FREE upgrades would also work.

    If you wanted to be real crazy you might be able to do part of this product as a WSO and use the whole product as the up-sale.

    If you give the Affiliate 100% of the WSO and 80% or a large amount of the $47 up-sale you would have more motivated Affiliates.

    Your goal is to build your list of "BUYERS" and not loose money on this offer. Making money on the offer is not the goal. Building a big list of "buyers" fast is the goal.

    Hope this helps,
    Anthony.
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  • Profile picture of the author imdomination
    PPV traffic rules for list building.

    You're paying $0.015 per view, get a 20% sign up rate and you're looking at under 10 cents per email.
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  • Profile picture of the author keepgoin
    Useful tips here - thanks very much.

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  • Profile picture of the author TopKat22
    PPV can be very costly for a newbie without a lot of experience. It is not something I would recommend unless you really know what you are doing.

    Lots of free ways that are just as or more effective to get targetted traffic and sign ups to build your list.

    I would check those out first.
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    • Profile picture of the author Samrath Gupta
      Originally Posted by TopKat22 View Post

      PPV can be very costly for a newbie without a lot of experience. It is not something I would recommend unless you really know what you are doing.

      Lots of free ways that are just as or more effective to get targetted traffic and sign ups to build your list.

      I would check those out first.
      Could you please list your ways to get targeted traffic to the page?


      Also can anyone reveal that how one can know that If the SUBSCRIBERS are willing to buy anything or not.... Or they are just FREEBIE seekers !!
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  • Profile picture of the author marcuslim
    If you want to build your list FAST, you have to pay for traffic. Solo ads are an excellent way to jumpstart your list. You find someone who has a list in the same niche you are in, and pay them a certain amount to send their traffic to your squeeze page to start building your list. This is targeted traffic, but be sure that the person you contact has a list that is responsive.
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  • Profile picture of the author TopKat22
    Sign up for high volume forums that relate to your niche and make valuable posts with your site in the sig.

    Write quality articles and post original, never before published articles on qondio.com and ideamarketers.com. When they get syndicated, you get good backlinks and immediate targetted traffic. Make sure you are specific with what solution you are to people's problems in the bio without sounding too commercial.

    Join the War Room and get this
    http://www.warriorforum.com/war-room...-networks.html

    There are some of the ways.
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  • Profile picture of the author sofus
    Hi Sam;-)

    You have gotten some great advice from TiffLee, Top Dog Marketer, TopKat22, RyanLB, sbias, imdomination, marcuslim and keepgoin. Listen to what they say.

    …and I do cling to the phrase: the money is in the list,
    but I'd like to dive into it and probably add some more Sam.


    You have several questions Sam:

    1. Help me Build a LIST ! (your forum post headline)
    2. Tell me the best way to build a list
    3. Tell me the easiest way to build a list
    4. Prove the "myth" so I can believe it

    Answers:

    0. List?
    I have been around for a while (not in Warrior forum but the IM space/offline space) and believe me: I have done alot of mistakes Sam. My worst mistake has been this: Using the word list (for myself). No one actually want to be on a list "a list number". We are individual human beings on our way to solve our own specific "problem" to get a "better life". The day I Changed the word "list" to: How can I best help my sister or brother to solve what She or He wants to solve as fast as possible, things changed. I had to be sure what my brothers real problem was. When I knew that, I could point out or give him the exact solution to solve his problem.


    1. Help me build a LIST
    The first thing I could do is to sign up on your list. Where do I sign up?
    I'm not kidding. Tell me where it is Sam, and you have gotten one more on your list.
    Since you are you, YOU have your eyes and view on great stuff that I might miss: Tell me about it, an why I should
    take a closer look. Let me get to know you. Let your personality show in your e-mail to me.
    1+1+1+1+1…

    2. Tell me the best way to build a list
    You have started, send me to the list Sam.

    The best way to build a list is to believe that you actually know something that some people actually do not know and that they would like to know just that.
    Life is a "journey". We learn. I'm sure that a lot of the people you personally know, know nothing about all the things you know. The next time you meet one of them, ask:
    What is your greatest Challenge, right now? Watch this persons face, body language and words. What does this person say? Continue after a while with this question: If this "problem/challenge" was solved, how would your life have been then? Listen. If I could have helped you solving your problem, what would this have been worth to you?
    Listen to the answer. "Hand over that solution".

    List, Internett, Long distance. I'm on several great peoples lists because they make my life more rich. I'm on several peoples lists because they tell me about something
    that I might have missed if they had not told me about it. When you are you, true to your self and think of me as a person that you'd love to help and I feel it – you got a fan,
    a person that would listen to what you have to say.

    3. Tell me the easiest way to build a list
    I'd like to add (fastest way). The fastest way to build a list is, right now, to tell me where to sign up and why.
    The second best way is: Adwords, Facbook ad (a specific ad to a specific Landing page with a autoresponder form). I could have said: squeeze page, but I know that Google and alot of those (companies) out there does not like it anymore. The so called Gurus, do not mention ads that much, but they use it all of the time. Why? Because
    ranking on the first page of Google takes time (and google change all the time). Ad = costs money as you know. Build 1 + 1+ 1+1 over a week, watch results, stay on budget (don't spend alot of money). It's all a numbers game: How much is a person "listening to me" worth (long term/long term).

    4. Prove the "myth" so I can believe it
    Send me to your optin page. Tell me why I should sign up. Build a relationship with me. Follow up with stuff you would have appreciated to have received yourself.
    Build the relationship. Use your uniqe voice (world view). Do not sell crap. Consider the affiliate product you tell me about before you send it. If you send an e-mail just to earn a quick buck, I'll understand. If you send me to an offer you think is worth for me spending my time on viewing because it is great, do so. Remember. It's hard to know me if you don't know me. The more you know about how I feel and are at – the more success you'll have. If you can earn $1, you can earn $10, $100 and so on…Focus on 1 thing at the time.

    The money is given to you because the people you care about listen to what you have to say and take action.
    The money is Not in the list! The money is a result of the value you provide. No value = No money. People opt out. Pay attention to why. Why did they first sign up? Why did they stay? Why did they leave?

    Some marketers - actually do not care if people leave (In my opinion: the day I do not care, people dont care). Balance your promotions/info. I'm sure you'll have great success Sam, and start today, right now (pay attention to "your friend I mentioned in #2)

    Hope some of this was usefull Sam

    Wish you great succes,

    sofus
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  • Profile picture of the author Samrath Gupta
    Hi Sofus,

    Thanks a lot for your advice. You really went to the core of my concerns and pointed out nice points

    Although Loved your way

    I would be happy if you could tell me some FREE WAYS to get targeted traffic too

    PS: Just dont mention forum marketing,article marketing,etc

    If possible then explain the method too

    Regards
    ~Sam~
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    • Profile picture of the author sofus
      Hi Sam,

      There are "no FREE" ways to get targeted traffic. Time = Life = Your Life, Time = Money.
      If you have a "website", add a Squeeze page to it, tell us about it. I have several niche sites, set and forget, and they build my list for (Free), not quick, but long term and highly targeted based on much resarch over "Time". But I do both, ppc and "SEO targeted blogs/sites etc".

      If building a "list" is your main goal right now, I strongly suggest you to "pay for ads" to build it. Why don't put up an ad right here in this forum. If you have a product that newbees need, team up with forum members that can promote it together with you.

      Free? I don't believe in free. I believe in the shortest way from A – B. A (where you are now, small/tiny list). B (targeted list). It's much better being something for someone and build on that, than thinking BIG. 1 + 1 = 3

      Regards,
      Sofus
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  • Profile picture of the author louie6925
    Some great advice here on this thread! Most important thing is research fully before starting. A good list needs to be done right. If you try to build too fast you may be wasting your time! Check everything is set up and tested before you start driving traffic to your squeeze page. Finally, someone mentioned buyimg a list! DON'T! If anyone has a good list then why sell? It's not like your list is major time consuming! People only sell lists because its unresponsive, a good list is a great commodity you wouldn't sell!
    Good luck
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  • Profile picture of the author Good News Now
    Building a list is not enough. You may have a huge list but no results.

    In my earlier days of internet marketing I subscribed to so many lists only to realize that I was bombarded with sales offers.

    Now, I am very selective to whom I give my email. You can easily destroy your list.

    I see this trend of getting people on the list and then send them everyday emails, promotional, affiliate offers.

    Now, I quickly unsubscribe from that list and keep those whom I see genuine, honest and treat you not like another damn buyer but like someone who needs some helpful information, tips, priducts etc...I gladly buy from them.
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    • Profile picture of the author sofus
      Originally Posted by Good News Now View Post

      Building a list is not enough. You may have a huge list but no results.

      In my earlier days of internet marketing I subscribed to so many lists only to realize that I was bombarded with sales offers.

      Now, I am very selective to whom I give my email. You can easily destroy your list.

      I see this trend of getting people on the list and then send them everyday emails, promotional, affiliate offers.

      Now, I quickly unsubscribe from that list and keep those whom I see genuine, honest and treat you not like another damn buyer but like someone who needs some helpful information, tips, priducts etc...I gladly buy from them.

      Well spoken;-)
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  • Profile picture of the author Samrath Gupta
    Can anybody tell me that how can i filter non-buyers or freebie seekers from my list?

    Because obviously if a person is a freebie seeker then We dont want him in the list !

    How one can tackle that ?
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  • Profile picture of the author Nightengale
    Samrath,

    You don't believe the money's in the list????

    Your thinking is seriously flawed. No insult intended, but this shows a lack of understanding about how business fundamentally works.

    You have a product or service to sell.

    Fact: You have to invest time, money and effort in finding qualified prospects to sell to.

    Fact: New prospects are less likely to trust you since they don't know you. People buy from people they know, like and trust.

    Fact: It's MUCH more expensive to continually look for new prospects to sell to than it is to sell to your EXISTING list of prospects and customers (who presumably already know you, like you and trust you).

    I don't know the exact figure, but there IS a multiple of cost to find and sell to new prospects than it is to sell to your EXISTING list. (It's something like 4 or 6 times more expensive to find new prospects and get them to buy from you than it is to get your existing list to buy from you.)

    First, you don't have the time and cost of finding new people. Then you don't have to jump the trust hurdle.

    Plus, you're FOREVER looking for new customers if you don't have a list.

    If your list is big enough and if you have a product (or products) at a high enough price point, you indeed CAN generate six figures JUST from your own list -- either over time (more likely) or all at once.

    Once you build a list, you can burrow deep and find more problems you can help solve. Then just create new products and services to help solve their problems. It's a lot easier and you have a lot more credibility with your existing list of people.

    If you're NOT building a list and continually chasing NEW prospects and customers, you'll be continually chasing the brass ring with very little stability in your business.

    Building a list is just SMART business.

    Hope that helps clarify it!

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    • Profile picture of the author Samrath Gupta
      Originally Posted by Nightengale View Post

      You don't believe the money's in the list????

      Your thinking is seriously flawed. No insult intended, but this shows a lack of understanding about how business fundamentally works.
      Hi Michelle- Thanks for so informative post! I really liked your post

      It is not lack of understanding..... As a IM'er i really dont believe on rumour's and all as I stated above !

      I believe in THE RESULTS !

      Thats the reason I started this thread and seeking for help because HONESTLY no one can be a GURU and know everything !!

      So I will build a LIST!
      See if it works
      And will Update here IF it really worked for me or NOT !

      -------------------------------------------------------------

      Alot of people are actually moving away from building email lists and into phone number lists. Do you do this?


      this looks like a new TURN lol Now will someone explain what is this

      Regards
      ~Sam~
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      • Profile picture of the author TopKat22
        [QUOTE=Samrath Gupta;5033611]Hi Michelle- Thanks for so informative post! I really liked your post

        It is not lack of understanding..... As a IM'er i really dont believe on rumour's and all as I stated above !

        I believe in THE RESULTS !

        Thats the reason I started this thread and seeking for help because HONESTLY no one can be a GURU and know everything !!

        So I will build a LIST!
        See if it works
        And will Update here IF it really worked for me or NOT !

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        It does work. It will grow over time and then there are things to speed it up like getting lots of high quality targetted traffic to the squeeze page once it it up.

        I caution you into stopping too soon if you aren't making any money in a month.

        You should start to see signups as soon as you get some decent traffic, if you don't, tweak your sales copy just a little.

        I have made changes as small as changing the first bullet point on the sales copy and it made a difference.

        Then, once you have them opted in, if they opt out or certain emails don't get opened, again, a little tweak of the subject line.

        It has never really taken me that much. Tweak it while you are getting little traffic early on. You want to work out any minor changes to get results before you send a ton of traffic.

        Then once it all works with a good conversion rate, increase traffic.

        Some traffic from say SEO could take months to really make a difference.

        Other traffic can be immediate.

        Once you have all the tweaking done, do both, short term fast traffic methods and longer term SEO and such type things to get traffic. That way, once you have it really going, you can set it and forget it.

        But do give it some time to see results, and by results I mean increases. As long as things are increasing and converting, you would be silly to stop because then all it takes is more traffic to make continual income.

        :-)
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  • Profile picture of the author GSMarketing
    All, does this only work if you have your own product? And do you have to give away a free 'product'?

    What if you were trying to build a list just to send out your own ezine every week with what's new on your site etc? Would this possibly work?
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  • Profile picture of the author TopKat22
    I am not so concerned with freebie seekers. Give enough valuable quality information and good service to your list (just like to your customers) and you will do ok.

    They may purchase something some day or they may just share your site with others because they value the information.

    It is a numbers game. Get enough people on your list and you will do fine.

    As for giving something away or just having a sign up for the ezine, that is giving something away, the information in your ezine. If you write the squeeze page well and they see the value in subscribing without anything else being given away, then that is fine.

    In my lists, in the 3 niches I'm concentrating on right now, I give something away immediately that has real value. After that, I give some real value in the follow up emails, too.

    I also do not recommend promoting very much at all.

    So yes, the freebie seekers who sign up and then opt out get real value once but they cheat themselves from the future value.

    Which is fine. There will always be those people who take and take and take and never give back always afraid they will be duped or taken advantage of (and they usually are because of their belief system and their own actions).

    But most people like to give something back or feel like they are offering even exchange. They may buy something. They may promote your site.

    However, the main thing in all business, imho, is to serve.

    Money always follows service. Maybe not directly from the person served, but nonetheless, from somewhere.
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  • Profile picture of the author CPA Andrew
    Alot of people are actually moving away from building email lists and into phone number lists. Do you do this?
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  • Profile picture of the author TopKat22
    I know some people are doing text message marketing on cell phones but I don't.

    I don't mind having emails sitting in my email box, but a lot of text messages on my phone, how annoying.

    Plus, I can say more in an email.
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  • Profile picture of the author JCorp
    Offer good quality content, preferably something free like an e-book or short report, in exchange for people to get on your list...
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  • Profile picture of the author Franck Silvestre
    List building works. I even dedicated a day per week to list building and email marketing every single week.

    If you want to get a lot of subscribers fast, paid traffic is the solution. Think solo ads.

    Franck
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    Former Body Guard, Now REAL Traffic & List Building Coach
    >> HOT WSO: Six Figure Solo Sellers <<

    Winson Yeung said: "...Definitively A++ recommended WSO"
    Kevin Riley said: "Franck, glad to see you bringing out MORE and MORE GREAT stuff"
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  • Profile picture of the author Naimath
    The BEST way to build a list is to provide offer something valuable to the subscribers. Now, when I say valuable, I mean, REALLY VALUABLE. Something they can't resist. Concentrate on giving quality and value in unique ways and trust me, you'll be surprised to see how curious people would get to be into your list.
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  • Profile picture of the author Samrath Gupta
    Hey TopKat22

    I was thinking that you know alot about list building and suddenly saw your sig link lol

    You are a ListBuilding GURU man

    Thanks for supporting me

    Regards
    ~Sam~
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  • Profile picture of the author TopKat22
    No problem. I am happy to help. But I am NO GURU! ;-)

    I stuggled along to begin with and a lot of people helped me out a lot on this forum so I'm just paying it forward.

    I like to give away all the stuff that took me what seems like FOREVER to find and implement and I try to simplify it.

    And this is what I do. Not just something I've read about.
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    44 days in and we broke the $10K a month recurring bench mark.

    Guaranteed 60% Opt In Rate Traffic-Real People-Fresh Today-High Quality Biz Opp traffic![/URL]
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  • Profile picture of the author nahids
    Thanks for great information.
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