Agreeing! If you spin Articles and drop them immediatly without correction it looks not good. The result are non readable wordpiles with no aesthetic face.

Don't you mean - Stop rotating your dadgum written stories? Or could it be - Quit Oscillating your water-stopping newspaper fillers?

I'd have to say spinning articles works if you use the proper tool, i.e. Your Brain. The article spinners don't work because as stated above they leave the article an unreadable mess. But if you use your own brain you get great content that makes sense and people can still use it.

Agree, people need to stop filling the net with junk!

If your going to spin manually spin so it at least looks like someone actually wrote it. I know it takes time, just have a VA do it for you or someone off fiverr.

So what? It makes easier for our quality content to stand out of the big pile of crap.

I loving to reading a badish spin article. It give hope me and happy that one day I able to write that good an make big monies on intraweb.

I so agree.

When I was taking time to see if my content was stolen, and I did find my articles on someone's website, the spun version made absolutely no sense. The spun content used some of my original content about real estate spun with health issues that resulted in a ridiculous article.

I was going to take the time to contact the spinner to let him know he took my content but figured he deserved to look like a fool instead.

I agree, spinning in most instances results in unreadable content which is clouding the web with non useable information. Financial Freedom comes from the building and application of skills. Unfortunately too many online marketers are looking for a push button solution. They fail to realize that the successful marketers had to develop certain skills along the way. Yes there are certain ways of advertising that does not require much skill; for example, safelists, banner advertising, traffic exchanges. On the other hand, article marketing, seo, and ppc requires some skill. So I agree, if you are not willing to learn the skills, stick with the stuff that doesn't require your brain to function. By the way, no offense.

As a noob, I recently considered spinning to increase my productivity and get some stuff out there quickly. I downloaded a well know free spinner and took it for a test drive. What it produced was absolute garbage. I wouln't want to put my name on any of it. Nevermind the fact that no one is going to read this stuff.

Spinning is a shortcut. And shortcuts seldom come with quality. Spinning might be stopped. But people will find another shortcut and continue filling internet with junk.... Junk is an inseparable part of internet.

If the articles are junk then there is a better chance they'll click one of my AdSense ads just to get off the page!

what if you write the SIntax yourself and spin it so that it makes sense. I use this way and my text make sense.

Yes I agree, Do not spin your content, After the Google Panda Update, this will hurt you, if not right away it will over time, Take your time and put out the good quality content that readers will get some value from, If you take the time to put out the quality content, it will actually over time increase your sites value, traffic, overall goal of the content in the first place.

I couldn't agree more.. Do not (and never have) spun articles to get backlinks!! If you're going to take the time, why not do it right & just make the work count?

I would have to agree with this, except for one fact. Most spun content is never meant to be read by a human. It's used for SEO purposes. Creating a text backlink. And, used like that, I can't see that it matters. Having said that, I personally don't use machine spun content.

People should also take into account the fact that they are wasting their time spinning for backlinking purposes. Do you think that Google will count a link better if the content where it is placed is "unique"?

The time you spend spinning should be used writing new articles.

Wow. This is news to me. I would never put spun content on my money sites, but I've always used spun articles for SEO purposes and have not seen negative impacts...or maybe my sites that won't make it to #1 on page one of Google is b/c of this reason?

It is important to note that I still have sites ranked #1 that use this method for SEO purposes.

It's not just spinning. People are autoposting pure junk. I think they are going to random web pages, highlighting all, copying, and posting as an 'article' with their link at the end. English. Chinese. Wookie. Doesn't matter.

The problem, I assume, is some article directories are set to automatically accept articles so quality doesn't matter in the horde's mindless search for a "link."

What you need is to find a tighter control over who can subscribe and post to your site.

You should also be banning entire countries in your .htaccess.

I've been down this road. You have to be overly, and perhaps to some, unfairly aggressive about this. Otherwise, just pack up your site because the spam flood is obscene.

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I still do not know why people are doing this.

Google has said it a million times, which of these do you think google is saying right now

1) "Oh yes, we love your jibberish articles that have been spun 899 times till next sunday, people are going to love reading them, especially 4 year olds, as they can make better sense of them"

OR

2) "Hey now I like this guy, he has given us what we are looking for all along....WHat do you say guys, should we reward this guy for doing what we have always wanted...hmmmm sounds good to me. WOW and the article even make sense...ok fellas, let reward him and give him a big yellow star"

LOL

My point is, google even before the panda wants you to give quaility and will reward you for doing so. For those people that STILL think spinning is great and you should do it, you should not be involved with the article marketing world.

I know for experience that one good 800 word article is better than 400 spun articles. It is not about QUANTITY people, its about QUALITY, it always has been. SO stop spinning articles and being lazy. Work hard and give quality that will actually help or enrich someones life. That way you will see better results.

I watched a Matt Cutt's vid a few days ago where the question was asked "does Google pay attention to spelling and grammar when ranking sites?".

His response was quite enlightening - (paraphrasing) - "No it does not, however our team is looking at sites statistically from the point of view of their quality, vis a vis grammar/spelling, and by pure coincidence the sites with a higher level of readability and grammar/spelling accuracy, consistently outrank the lower grade sites".
He went on to point out the difficulties in checking these factors in their algorithm, pointing to wide use of jargon and non English websites as hurdles. But it sounds like they're working on it.

So at some point you can expect any site hosting crappily spun articles to get another google slap on the noggin, thus devaluing the links from your spun articles even further.
The problem when that happens is that all of a sudden a website with a lot of spun content pointing at it will suddenly see their rankings fall. If 1000 of your incoming links get devalued overnight by an algo change, you're going to wish you'd spent your energy elsewhere.
Employ common sense SEO for the long haul - you'll be glad you did it!!

I would have to say that article spinners are good for newbies, but I would say if you truly want to spin an article, do a rewrite of your original, that way when you submit it to a site you can be sure that it is still unique.

Can I get an ETA when this horrendous method of info dissemintation will go away?

I will ask Santa to get me that for Christmas.

Dear Santa, please make Article Marketing, Article Syndication and anything related to this crap fest go away....

That's the start of my letter

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Yeah original content is really not that hard to create. People are just too lazy and look for the easy way out.

But i think spinning the content is absolutely good and the thing is that on how much sites you are submitting it. If you are going to spin an article and make it readable then there is no problem but if you are submitting it more than 10 sites then it will create problems for you. Simply because as we all know spiders are too strong. In my opinion you have to just use a new fresh content every time when you are going to make a blog.

I agree! Spun articles are hard to understand because of grammatically wrong.

If you don't enjoy reading your spun article, what makes you think that other people will enjoy reading it?

Isn't the point of article marketing or creating any kind of content to get people to your website who will hopefully buy what you are selling?

If people don't enjoy reading your content, what makes anyone think that potential customers will follow those articles to their website to make a purchase?

Oh yeah right. They are not putting their spun articles on THEIR OWN websites. They are trashing other people's websites to get the mighty back links to impress Google's search algorithms.

Yet, that other guy created a website so he could make money, and you are taking a big stinky dump in the middle of his yard for your benefit!! You are crapping on his future.

What happens when that other guy doesn't make money he is trying to make?

He closes his website in a few months, when his domain registration expires...

Then all of your powerful back links will be gone forever, leaving you where you started -- with nothing!!

This indicates to me a very special kind of karma. You took a crap in someone else's website, and in the end, you are left holding nothing but crap in your hands.

Karma works in mysterious ways.

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I think that many people spin articles just because they are to lazy to write them themselves. They grab an article from an article directory, that someone else wrote, and spin it beyond recognition with the push of one button. Then they submit the new spun junk to many article directories.

They don't have to take the time to write the article or pay for an article to be written so they are happy.

Never knew there were so many strong opinions about this topic. Thank you for educating me everyone! I appreciate all of the informative info in this thread.

I agree with this very much. If you write an article on the web, you're better off spending your time on creating other unique content rather than spinning it.

People should avoid putting articles through spinning software as it ends up in ridiculous results. This does not make you look good, even if you're just doing it for backlinks. Re-writing an article from scratch might be acceptable, but if you are indeed just doing it for backlinks, then it's not worth the time. There are quicker ways to go about doing that.

I totally agree. What you said could not be more true at this day of age.

I AGREE 100%!!!!!!!

The problem is there are still idiots out there teaching strategies that worked 3 to 5 years ago that include spinning. These are lazy people not willing to spend the time to write a new article and also people that don't understand "Duplicate Content" or "Article Syndication".

SPINNING = GARBAGE!!!!!

Benjamin Ehinger

Does not matter what you think if it works people will continue to do it, it's a hard pill to swallow if it's annoying you of course. But, if something is working for people they are not going to stop because it hurts your feelings.

-Lee

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Spinning is great if you spend the time to do it properly. However, most people just throw them through an auto spinner which of course generates garbage. Proper spinning lets you get more out of your articles.

Time to change your hat to white. Quality content articles provides you better ranking in Google.

spun articles are absolutely awful. Put on some music and just type for a few hours and get some articles done. It's really not that hard. Or for God sakes go to FIVERR and pay someone $5 for a well written article if you're that lazy.

i agree....these auto-spun articles are absolutely dreadful and they can only be counter-productive long-term but to get the most out of a quality article I don't think there is anything wrong with spinning it to a high standard. i often spend just as much time spinning the article as i did creating it and i make sure that it reads almost as well as the original before submission.

like everything it's those that abuse a little loop hole that spoil it for everyone else

Yeah I'm pretty sure that's what a lot of people think. (that links from non unique content carry less link juice than links from unique content) I see that everyday all over the Internet. A lot of people think that. Why do they think that? I don't know.

What does spinning articles mean? I write articles around 300-500 words and post to 7 article sites. Is that what you mean? Should I not post to all my sites? Please explain thanks.

Ok. You really have my attention with this issue.

I'm trying to figure out how effective it is to only use "syndicated content" on an Adsense site.

Can you define "syndicated content"? Is it an article reprint from Ezinearticles.com or GoArticles.com where you cite the author in an author box?

What bearing will it have on AdSense CTR rates if you only use "syndicated content" versus original content?

In regards to "spinning", I just don't have the patience to do it. Typically, I just hire writers to produce some really great SEO articles for my AdSense sites. However, it would be interesting to know if anyone has had any success using only "syndicated content".

What do you think?

Rich

Here is the harsh reality:

No one cares about "clicking my link" from a random article-site. While you might be right from your point of view (which i understand!)...for the people who DO submit spun articles it's irrelevant.

All what counts for them is placing the link...and making sure that most of the articles get indexed, recognized by Google. By submitting 100s of 1:1 copies you simply can't to that. If i had the choice i would also rather submit ONE great (and always the same) article to *all* the article directories out there...but its just common understanding that this is NOT EFFECTIVE from a link builders point of view.

The 2 people who might click from within the article directories are simply not of interest. Sorry to tell you about the reality.

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I found this GREAT video on how to use syndicated content effectively from the guys over at SEOMOZ:

Leveraging Syndicated Content Effectively for SEO - Whiteboard Friday | SEOmoz

Enjoy!

Rich

As a writer I agree. I am amazed at marketers who boast about how much money they make then offer to pay peanuts for articles. The only spinning I do is done manually. I go through every sentence and rewrite it so it makes sense. I've seen so many spun versions of my articles online. At first I used to get mad but now I just laugh, thank goodness my name isn't attached to any of them!

I thank my wonderful clients who refuse to spin articles and keep coming back to me for well-optimized, interesting articles that people actually read!

I think most marketers are just lazy.
To be honest.

They don't have the money to afford
to have writers.

They really don't want to write there own
content.

So they get PLR articles off the web and
there to lazy to take the time and rewrite
so they throw it into some article spinner.

Then they submit the articles to tons of article directories
without re-reading the content.

Now there's pure junk all over the web.

I think a small, considered amount of spinning with The Best Spinner or some other tool is fine if you do it properly i.e. yourself!

Okay, Google has no problem with syndicated content, however it will not index as many of your links if they are seen to be identical.

The problem comes when people are too busy to properly write and spin the articles themselves or don't have the money to employ a decent writer.

Onward rotating during modicum portions although gain well quality

I hate spinning articles, but enjoy editing them.

I have spun a few and look at it thinking "what the hell is that?" then I spend a couple hours going over it and re-editing it.

It takes longer than it should but the end result is nice and what I hope it to be.

Once again Kurt you allow your emotions towards Alexa to cloud your judgement and common sense.

You are much wiser than I and Alexa so I shouldn't have to but am going to point out to you that actions speak louder than words.

I trust you have noticed the increase in people espousing the virtues of article syndication, why would that be I wonder if syndication is the same as duplicate content which Google according to you and others frown upon and in turn 'Google Slap?"

-Chris

It IS possible to spin articles without making them completely unreadable garbage. But unfortunately, it takes some extra time and work...which most most people spinning articles try to avoid like the plague.

It gets frustrating to no end, how does spinning gain such popularity and make those who provide these services so much money.
Spinning has been gaining popularity it seems and there is no lack of services or software that provide spinning.
I do work to make the best spun articles possible but why should I spend the time if there is no benefit. It gets costly trying to keep up then find out its all for not.
Original good content and syndicate, ok