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Mass submission of a single e-mail is spamming. Google knows that, we all know.

What about mass social bookmarking and mass article submission or syndication? Do not these also exhibit the same trick?

These two practices seem very prevalent now a days in order to gain mass publicity and one may expect Goole's new forthcoming algo frwoning upon them, too...!:confused:
#article syndication #google algorythm #social bookmarking #spamming
  • Profile picture of the author savvybizbuilder
    All you have mention are spamming. Spamming doesn't only covers the mass distribution of E-mails. It also includes mass bookmarking and article submission. Even using different mini sites in mass posting like blogger, weebly, wordpress etc. to build backlinks are considered spamming.
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  • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
    Originally Posted by Chetan Patil View Post

    Mass submission of a single e-mail is spamming. Google knows that, we all know.
    Not if they all signed up to receive the email it isn't. Spamming is sending unsolicited emails. This is very different.

    What about mass social bookmarking and mass article submission or syndication? Do not these also exhibit the same trick?

    These two practices seem very prevalent now a days in order to gain mass publicity and one may expect Goole's new forthcoming algo frwoning upon them, too...!:confused:
    That's not really spamming either. Gaming the search engines perhaps.

    Originally Posted by savvybizbuilder View Post

    All you have mention are spamming. Spamming doesn't only covers the mass distribution of E-mails. It also includes mass bookmarking and article submission. Even using different mini sites in mass posting like blogger, weebly, wordpress etc. to build backlinks are considered spamming.
    By your definition anything appears to be spamming.

    Right, I'm bored, this is going to turn into a "what is spamming" debate which has no doubt been discussed to death here and I have better things to do than debate it's definition.

    To the OP though, one of my lists has many thousands on it, they all signed up, I sent them all an email today. According to you and Google, that's spamming. However, no one on my list calls it spamming and no one complained.
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  • Profile picture of the author Steve Peters Benn
    You might want to consider the difference between fly posting and junk mail. They are both illegal offline - but quite different things. Same here.
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    • Profile picture of the author JustVisiting
      Originally Posted by Steve Peters Benn View Post

      You might want to consider the difference between fly posting and junk mail. They are both illegal offline - but quite different things. Same here.
      Fly posting is illegal but junk mail is the derogatory term many people use for Direct Mail. Direct Mail, as far as I am aware is legal and it is a very effective marketing method when the right audience is targeted.
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  • Profile picture of the author Coby
    bookmarking is a 'gray' area...

    Because quite often they are "mass submitted" it's also very easy for it to be "real"...

    Links can very easily go viral on the bookmarking sites and Google knows this... I'm sure they also know how we try to 'game' them...

    It's all a game when Google is involved and there is so much "fog" when it comes to determining what they want or think... So folks believe Google tells us one thing to keep us from realizing the truth (and keep us from exploiting it)...

    Okay - with that out of the way - I love social bookmarking and find it very helpful for both traffic and backlinks and it's one of my main strategies when ranking sites...
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    • Profile picture of the author Chetan Patil
      [QUOTE=Coby;5063227]bookmarking is a 'gray' area...

      Hi Coby,

      Thanks for the reply.

      How do you do social bookmarking by the way? Manually or using any software?
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  • Profile picture of the author FromBrokeToRich
    Mass emailing a single email is not necessarily spam...

    We marketers have built lists of 1,000's of peoples emails.

    When we send out an email broadcast to our entire list data bases via our autoresponder to our lists, it is NOT spamming.
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  • Profile picture of the author Marhelper
    The question is: Is it unsolicted or not? If so, then it is spamaroo.
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    • Profile picture of the author AndreStoelinga
      Originally Posted by Marhelper View Post

      The question is: Is it unsolicted or not? If so, then it is spamaroo.
      This hits the nail on the head...
      Nothing more to it.

      Spamming as a term is used in many different ways, but this is the essence of the real "spamming".

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    • Profile picture of the author Chetan Patil
      Originally Posted by Marhelper View Post

      The question is: Is it unsolicted or not? If so, then it is spamaroo.
      HI,

      What do you mean by solicited and unsolicited?
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      • Profile picture of the author FredJones
        Originally Posted by Chetan Patil View Post

        Mass submission of a single e-mail is spamming. Google knows that, we all know.

        What about mass social bookmarking and mass article submission or syndication? Do not these also exhibit the same trick?

        These two practices seem very prevalent now a days in order to gain mass publicity and one may expect Goole's new forthcoming algo frwoning upon them, too...!:confused:
        Why is the email sending situation a spam if people have opted in for your email? In other words, the event is that they are asking for your product (the IP inside the email) and you giving them what they are looking for with an opiton for them to stop wanting (in form of the unsubscribe button). So then, any brick-and-mortar store that home-delivers toothpastes of the same brand to every customer is a spammer?

        Social bookmarks exist and are independent of each other. Just because someone likes something on Digg, that does not mean that someone cannot like it on Mixx. That's ridiculous. If Google or any other search engine provider has to handle that to deal with search engine rankings then its their business to form a strategy how to deal with them.

        The same goes for article syndication.

        When someone is asking for something and getting it, they are not being spammed. Spam is only when someone is getting something that they didn't ask for, with the notion of force-marketing.

        Originally Posted by savvybizbuilder View Post

        All you have mention are spamming. Spamming doesn't only covers the mass distribution of E-mails. It also includes mass bookmarking and article submission. Even using different mini sites in mass posting like blogger, weebly, wordpress etc. to build backlinks are considered spamming.
        Wow - wish everyone agreeing to this a great spam-free (read: customer-free) business.
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