Still use Autoresponse Plus?

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I'm looking to see who is still using Autoresponse Plus for their autoresponder.

I still see many uses for it.

I also see uses for it in conjunction with 3rd party hosted services. (Sounds odd, I know.)

But I'm curious, after searching on the net I found it hard to pinpoint people using it, especially in the Internet Marketing niche. (A decent amount still had it installed, but they were actually using a 3rd party service.)

I'm not looking for people to tell my why not to use it, such as "use a 3rd party because x,y,z...", but I'm curious as to who still uses it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Troy McDonald
    I thought I'd post a reply of people that I know (Internet Marketers) that still use AutoResponse Plus, besides myself:

    Jim Edwards (Heavily)
    James Martell (For at least one site)
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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      I still use it heavily on four websites. Mainly used for handling large lists after subscribers optin to a third party commercial autoresponder. I move all new subscribers to the autoresponder, and in my opinion, it is still the best out there. My lists are so huge, it would be prohibitively costly to run them on any of the commercially available hosted autoresponders.
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      • Profile picture of the author Troy McDonald
        So Paul, you move people from a 3rd party autoresponder to ARP, like I mentioned in my post? Cool.

        Yes, I hear ya on cost.

        Originally Posted by myob View Post

        I still use it heavily on four websites. Mainly used for handling large lists after subscribers optin to a third party commercial autoresponder. I move all new subscribers to the autoresponder, and in my opinion, it is still the best out there. My lists are so huge, it would be prohibitively costly to run them on any of the commercially available hosted autoresponders.
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        • Profile picture of the author Troy McDonald
          In my research, I have found two other big cheese use ARP.

          Matt Bacak (Heavily)
          Harvey Segal (Heavily)

          I have also found a lot of other big cheese that still have it installed on sites, but it seems they have moved on to other services (3rd party), or they could be doing the combo as I mentioned earlier (ARP + 3rd party). (I couldn't verify, so I didn't list them as using ARP.
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Mayhew
    I still use it. Have for years.
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  • Profile picture of the author tomfra
    I do use it, although I have not focused on list building enough lately. And I am not in the IM biz directly so not sure if that counts

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  • Profile picture of the author jacktackett
    I still use it for a site (not IM related). For a few other lists I use a newsletter program called WorldMerge. For my main lists I use iContact.

    I'm sure you'll find the creator of Autoresponse Plus (see Neil - I didn't use Autoresponder plus this time - I may be old but I can learn :-) ) uses it for his lists too. If you need any help you'll also find he's great at support too.

    For a self-hosted program I can highly recommend ARP.

    good luck,
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    • Profile picture of the author Gary McCaffrey
      Armand Morin uses it a lot.
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      • Profile picture of the author Troy McDonald
        Gary,

        Do you know which site(s) he still uses it on? I appreciated knowing which one(s) it is.

        Originally Posted by Gary McCaffrey View Post

        Armand Morin uses it a lot.
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        • Profile picture of the author myob
          You can easily send 20,000 - 30,000 emails per hour using an optimized server. A fragmented database could slow it down. I use four dedicated servers using ARP with about 1.7million emails on three, and about 900k on the fourth one. They are all running nearly 24/7, except for maintenance and updates. There is just no way to handle this volume economically with any third party hosted provider that I know of.
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  • Profile picture of the author SlickSki
    Hi,

    I'm looking for a new autoresponder, what is this autoresponder plus? Is it better than aweber/getresponse etc.
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    • Profile picture of the author ronr
      I've used ARP for at least 5 years.

      I love having complete control over my autoresponder system and not need to be dependant on a service that can change prices and policies at any time.

      It's brought in a ton of business for me.

      Can't wait to see the new version which should be out soon and
      will be even better.

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  • Profile picture of the author jasondinner
    I've been using arp 3 since I started.

    it's good to mail to optins that didn't confirm

    I figure, if they are browsing any of my sites where they
    are required to enter an email to gain access, then I have
    the right to mail them whether they confirmed or not.

    Maybe I shouldn't be saying on a public forum, but I don't
    see anything wrong with it.

    Otherwise I wouldn't be doing it. LOL

    Thousands of marketers email their single optin subscribers.

    Jason
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  • Profile picture of the author jasondinner
    Armand Morin uses arp 3
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  • Profile picture of the author Joe Coon
    I still use it on several sites and still like it very much...

    Joe
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  • Profile picture of the author jasondinner
    one of the few things that pisses me off about it though is that it runs SUPER SLOW...

    ...even though I have it running on a dedicated server with plenty of available bandwidth.
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    • Profile picture of the author tomfra
      Originally Posted by jasondinner View Post

      one of the few things that pisses me off about it though is that it runs SUPER SLOW...

      ...even though I have it running on a dedicated server with plenty of available bandwidth.
      The amount of BW will have effect on the performance. How big is your email list? CPU of the dedicated server? RAM?

      It can be pretty resource intensive just like any CGI script but I can imagine this being a problem with very big email lists only.

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  • Profile picture of the author jasondinner
    its not super big, goes out to 28K

    i don't know the specs of my server either, so maybe I should go find that out - LOL
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  • Profile picture of the author tomfra
    The CPU speed & amount of RAM are the most important specs in this case. There could just as well be a non-hardware issue but a bug somewhere. Have you tried contacting their support?

    I do have experience with ARP but not with 28K+ email lists so can't say if the low performance is normal or not...

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  • Profile picture of the author tomfra
    BTW: By "slow" do you mean like the server becomes "sluggish" or just the emails are being sent slowly? There could just as well be set the max number of emails per minute/hour scheduled for sending. I will check if there is such an option in my ARP installation.

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    • Profile picture of the author jasondinner
      Originally Posted by tomfra View Post

      BTW: By "slow" do you mean like the server becomes "sluggish" or just the emails are being sent slowly? There could just as well be set the max number of emails per minute/hour scheduled for sending. I will check if there is such an option in my ARP installation.

      Tomas
      pages on ARP 3 only load super slow

      It doesn't effect my other sites at all.
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      • Profile picture of the author tomfra
        Originally Posted by jasondinner View Post

        pages on ARP 3 only load super slow

        It doesn't effect my other sites at all.
        I'd have to see the exact setup, you can PM me if you want. I could imagine this being a problem on a shared hosting account or a heavily loaded dedicated server, but then you'd notice the performance problems with other webs hosted on the same server.

        Could be a broken or "imperfect" MySQL database table index but without seeing it, I'd have to be guessing, really...

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  • Profile picture of the author Troy McDonald
    FYI:

    From what I know ARP 4.0 is going to be in PHP.

    Neil is a Warrior, hopefully I am correct on the PHP thing.
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    • Profile picture of the author Neil Morgan
      ARP4 is in two parts - the backend that does all the database and email work, and the admin interface.

      Troy is right - the backend is 100% PHP.

      The admin interface is written in - well, you'll have to wait and see. But it is super cool, even if I do say so myself.

      Cheers,

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  • Profile picture of the author Neil Morgan
    Jason - at risk of taking up bandwidth here, a subsciber database of that size (28K) should be giving you instantaneous responses, no questions.

    Even on a reasonable shared host with dozens of users, I would expect instantaneous responses and a send-rate of 20,000 to 30,000 per hour.

    I've seen some really poorly configured servers in my time that run like treacle, no matter the cpu, memory or bandwidth available.

    If you need an optimization expert for your server I can recommend someone to you. PM me if you want his details.

    Cheers,

    Neil
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