Danny Wall, Jordyn is back new name

by Bev Clement 93 replies
I have just discovered that Danny is back, trying to sell again here.

Alert has been sent to Allen, just remember warriors if it sounds too good it is too good, and if people can't tell you what they have been doing, it could be because they have scammed people.
#main internet marketing discussion forum #back #danny #jordyn #wall
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  • Profile picture of the author John Rowe
    Originally Posted by Bev Clement View Post

    I have just discovered that Danny is back, trying to sell again here.
    Hey Bev, if it's about a WSO then you can post about this in more detail... objectively... on the new subforum for discussing WSO's. I know I'd like more detail. I've never heard about Danny Wall, Jordyn.


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    • Profile picture of the author valerieSONORA
      Wow Bev, you really are the detective! You should open up your own detective agency.

      What happened, how did you figure out he was back?
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      • Profile picture of the author Jose Delgado
        That's why Bev is my Hero, my angel, , and every other good think you can think about.

        Because she is very protective!
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        • Profile picture of the author valerieSONORA
          I bet somebody named Danny Wall hates Bev right now lol.
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          • Profile picture of the author Jose Delgado
            Originally Posted by annoyedgirl View Post

            I bet somebody named Danny Wall hates Bev right now lol.
            What?!

            How Can ANYONE Possibly hate Bev?

            That's Impossible.
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            • Profile picture of the author valerieSONORA
              Originally Posted by Jose Delgado View Post

              What?!

              How Can ANYONE Possibly hate Bev?

              That's Impossible.
              Scammers hate people who expose them. If it wasn't for Bev and some other guy whose name I forgot there would still be a Jordyn around reminding everyone in every single post she is 16 years old.
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              • Profile picture of the author Bev Clement
                Jose scammer as annoyed girl said hate to be outed
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                • Profile picture of the author Bev Clement
                  For those of you who are new, don't get caught with the I made $4,500 in one day and then made $20k in a week.

                  Danny Wall
                  Mark Wellsby
                  Richard Earl
                  Loudle
                  Jordyn Wellsby

                  Steve Gxxxxt (new member)

                  are all the same person.

                  If you read Steve's threads they are all in the same vein as the others.

                  All his reports which he is kindly giving away were written by Danny Wall

                  Some of his reports are not his to give away, as they are old ones which never came with plr.

                  Warriors beware.
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                  • Profile picture of the author mmurtha
                    Hi Bev,

                    Thanks for making us aware of this.

                    My concern is why is he allowed to post such things, especially when they aren't his works!

                    Matter of fact, why is he still allowed to become a member of the forum or stay as one?


                    Mary
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                    • Profile picture of the author Bev Clement
                      Mary, most of them are his works, just written by Danny Wall who is his real name as far as we can tell.

                      The ebooks that he has no rights to he has on his website so no rules in that sense broken here.

                      As far as being allowed to be a member here, I am guessing he used a new IP. He is still in Colorado, but a different address. The old one was a fake address.
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                      • Profile picture of the author Bev Clement
                        John don't be conned into spending any money with him. If you are on his list, be aware that he is a good copywriter and will try and wear you down with his sales pitches.

                        Interesting that he said recently that he isn't allowed to sell copywriting, but look on his blog to see what is being offered.
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                        • Profile picture of the author Francois du_Toit
                          Hi Bev,

                          I clearly remember the Jordan saga...

                          Can't believe he / she / it is back. The nerve of some people!

                          Many thanks for the head's up!

                          All the best,
                          Francois
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                          • Profile picture of the author Allen Graves
                            I once got a free CD seminar from Danny Wall which I thought was pretty darn good. You are right in the fact that he is good with words.

                            I never bought anything from him, but I came close a couple of times.

                            He also has (at least) twice used the "my friend is in dire need of money - send me money now and I will mail you a huge package of IM stuff."

                            I don't know if the people who sent money ever got the stuff, but this happened right before he disappeared off the map...twice.

                            Is this thread breaking rule #1?

                            AL
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                            • Profile picture of the author Bev Clement
                              Allen that's why I didn't give his name. But I think warriors need to know when we have a scammer in the house. Better to let people know before he takes money from them.
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                              • Profile picture of the author Allen Graves
                                I agree 100%! Thanks for posting this...I had forgotten all about that guy.

                                AL
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                            • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
                              There's an interesting thread about Danny over at Michael Greens forum from a long time ago that ties-in with Bevs concerns:

                              Who is Danny Wall?
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                              • Profile picture of the author Greg Cooksley
                                Originally Posted by Andyhenry View Post

                                There's an interesting thread about Danny
                                over at Michael Greens forum from a long time ago that ties-in
                                with Bevs concerns:

                                Who
                                is Danny Wall?
                                Hey Andy,
                                Did you get my PM?

                                Regards
                                Greg
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                                • Profile picture of the author Alan Petersen
                                  There was a post in the old forums from the mods that if it was out right scam artist they couldn't be protected from rule #1. My understanding of rule #1 is John Customer as beef with John Merchant for whatever reason then take it up between them two. But if the person is a fraud and is trying to steal money like Danny Wall has done than they should be exposed to warn warriors like Bev did.

                                  I could be way off but that is my understanding of rule #1.

                                  This guys just has no shame. He must figure he has a few days/weeks before he is exposed in which he scam a few warriros.
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                              • Profile picture of the author Dana_W
                                Andy, I was literally just getting ready to paste that on here! Damn you're fast. There is a Danny E. Wall who has some kind of criminal history in San Diego, and on that thread you just linked to, someone in there says that his home address - at the time anyway - was San Diego. I have no idea if it's the same guy.

                                But it seems obvious this sleazebag keeps coming back to the Warrior Forum under different names and identities. Why, for God's sake?

                                Here's a link to a thread discussing this:
                                The Warrior Forum - Okay, what would you do?

                                And then there's this, posted on the old Warrior Forum by Dan DaSilva:

                                As we all know by now, the "family tree" of this sucker is constantly growing. As it seems, every other week it will give the IM world a newborn avatar. But we're learning.

                                Let's recap with whom we've had the pleasure so far:

                                Danny Wall, Richard Earl, Mark Wellsby, Steve Treslager, Ibar Iplefritz, Jordyn, Patty Vortan...

                                And now there is that new member to the family. Ladies & Gentlemen, please welcome...

                                - Mel Slabaugh

                                Don't even try to figure the gender of this new member. By the time, you know it anyway.

                                Let's summarize further what we all know by now, as of July 15, 2008:

                                Personae:
                                - Danny Wall
                                - Richard Earl
                                - Mark Wellsby
                                - Steve Treslager
                                - Ibar Iplefritz
                                - Jordyn
                                - Patty Vortan
                                - Mel Slabaugh

                                Usernames:
                                - angrymaker (Youtube)
                                - doingbigdeals (Youtube)
                                - podister (Youtube)
                                - loudle (WF)
                                - Jordyn (WF)
                                - trafficgoldmines (WF)

                                Company Affiliations:
                                - Wolf Enterprises
                                - Wolf Data Systems
                                - Primoris Marketing

                                Websites:
                                www.***primorismarketing com
                                www.***trafficgoldmines com
                                www.***dannywall com
                                www.***wolfdatasystems com
                                www.***loudle com
                                www.***risingdawnmarketing com
                                www.***dominancemarketing com
                                www.***cat-dandruff com
                                www.***1kin10days com
                                www.***make5kthisweek com
                                www.***earn10bucksaday com
                                www.***rush2earn com
                                www.***loudle.com
                                www.***cash-infusions.com

                                Life & Business Philosophy:
                                www.***loudle.com/invisible.pdf

                                Various Links:
                                - www.***cb-analytics.com/prod...php?id=LOUDLE
                                - www.***cbtrends.com/clickban...dorid=loudle
                                - http://www.***howtocorp.com/cgi-bin......a57e731b25ff
                                - ***membership.loudle.com/
                                - ***sourceforge.net/projects/loudle/
                                - ***digg.com/business_finance/SEO_Optimization_How_To_Rule_Google
                                - www.****youtube.com/user/podister
                                - www.***youtube.com/user/angrymaker
                                - www.***youtube.com/watch?v=RtaOIOICUhE
                                - www.***wolfdatasystems.com/
                                - bbslist.***textfiles.com/215/
                                - www.***tdan.com/view-articles/4995
                                - www.***sitepromotionnow.org/impulse.html
                                - www.warriorforum.com/forum/p...play&id=32586
                                - www.warriorforum.com/forum/p...play&id=63091
                                - www.warriorforum.com/forum/p...play&id=78809
                                - ***profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=921 10786

                                Postal Adresses:
                                - 3230 Gardener, Bostan, MA 02101, United States
                                - 7149 Galewood St., San Diego, California 92120, United States
                                - 8930 April Dr, Colorado Springs, CO

                                This is a collection of information about the Danny Wall "case" that besides all the appreciated warriors even he himself might be interested in, just in case he has lost track in his malicious Hydra-style gameplan, in the meantime.

                                I also want to call the moderators of this forum we all love and appreciate. I appreciate what you do to keep this place top notch, it is a place of incredible resourcefullness and I hope it will stay like this in the futre.

                                But instead of participating in some of the threads initiated by the person in question here and telling him off "nicely", I'd expect that you take more rigorous measures and actually shut down his various accounts. To my amazement, they still seem to be active.

                                You guys probably know the most about the patterns con artists like him use and should do everything in order to prevent criminal minds invading and polluting this place and taking warriors for a ride. If you don't want to be part of the problem and actually let them expand their circle of influence, you need to feel the responsibility now and do something about it. That's just my opiniion.

                                Best,
                                Dan
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                                • Profile picture of the author MizzCindy
                                  Bev, thank you for posting this warning!

                                  I don't think it breaks any forum rules whatsoever. As a matter of fact, it fits right in with the 'members as mods' approach. Every little bit we can do to keep this wonderful resource free of scum is a wonderful thing - IMHO.

                                  Again, thanks, Bev!
                                  Cindy
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                                  • Profile picture of the author Frank Ayres
                                    Funny thing is i just looked through the members list, found who i think Bev is talking about and he is online and reading this thread now as it says so in his profile!
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                                    • Profile picture of the author Bev Clement
                                      Yes he has been reading this thread, so he knows we know who he is.
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                                      • Profile picture of the author Greg Cooksley
                                        Originally Posted by Bev Clement View Post

                                        Yes he has been reading this thread,
                                        so he knows we know who he is.
                                        Hey Bev,

                                        That's just sick.....reminds of an old movie called "Black Christmas"
                                        anyone remember seeing that???

                                        I just looked at the link that Andy gave.....this guy has been
                                        at it for a long time and has ripped off a whole bunch of well
                                        known guys over the years....

                                        Greg
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                                        • Profile picture of the author Bev Clement
                                          Steve you are wrong, I haven't looked at the videos. My proof didn't come from the videos but there again I didn't expect you to say anything else.
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                                        • I wasn't going to post, because the truth is I have no idea if Bev is right or wrong - though she certainly has credibility on the forum.

                                          But I'll make a personal observation as I've read all the threads, including Steve Garrett's "You must be joking" thread:

                                          What kept going through my mind was, if that were me, if someone had WRONGLY accused me of being Danny Wall, with all that had went on before, I would be ABSOLUTELY BESIDE MYSELF!

                                          I would be falling over myself posting. Not only would I be replying with considerable anger and outrage, I would be posting (or PM'ing) someone my cell #, getting on a video chat with some senior forum member, SOMETHING to IMMEDIATELY and INCONTROVERTIBLY prove myself to insure my reputation and ability to interact and do business on Warrior wasn't irretrievably ruined.

                                          And I would then INSIST that all involved got whatever proof they needed and VOCALLY said so.

                                          What I CANNOT imagine doing is simply responding with "thanks for wasting our time, Bev".

                                          Certainly makes one wonder...

                                          Mark
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                                                Funny Steven, LOL

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                                                • Profile picture of the author Kay King
                                                  For those looking at the list of Wall's sites above, understand that he has a tendency to play off successful domain names of other marketers.

                                                  His sites such as
                                                  www.***1kin10days com
                                                  www.***make5kthisweek com
                                                  www.***earn10bucksaday com

                                                  should not be confused with the authentic 5bucksaday and Earn1kaday sites run by a respected member here.

                                                  kay
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                                                  • Profile picture of the author JayXtreme
                                                    lol.... this is the best thread I have had the pleasure to read in weeks..

                                                    I've been stuck with my head in XSitePro for days and this is cool...

                                                    Thankyou everyone for the chuckle.. even Danny

                                                    ;-)

                                                    Peace

                                                    Jay
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                                                    • Profile picture of the author Ken Leatherman
                                                      First I want to say thank you to Bev. She was kind enough to alert me this morning by Skype about Steve Garrett. She knew I had posted in the WSO topic and had some interest.

                                                      Now Steve for you. Frankly, You Tick Me Off. You have insulted a very good friend of mine. I have known and worked with Bev for more than two years now. I would trust her word above most people I know. She may be blunt but she speaks true.

                                                      However, after reading your responses here you have shot yourself right in the butt. I have a very strong ability to recall things I read and your responses to this thread read very similar to the ones you wrote in defense of Jordyn, Danny Wall and the others. Almost word for word.

                                                      Please take your new persona and ride off into the Colorado sunset.

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                                                      • Profile picture of the author valerieSONORA
                                                        Ouch. I guess if you're going by a certain name, you want to list that name in the properties as the author. Not a name of somebody you claim you don't know. I'd like to hear a reasonable explanation for why "Danny Wall" is listed as the author in the properties of ebooks by someone under a different name who claims to not even know who danny wall is. I guess next time they come back, they'll be careful about that. But I think Bev will still find a way to expose them.

                                                        As for no one being disgruntled by "Jordyn" I'd have to disagree. Avery Berman was. It nearly ruined his reputation but he bounced back cuz everyone knows he's honest
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                                              • Profile picture of the author Todd Walker
                                                my video is better Steven
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                                                • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
                                                  Originally Posted by Todd Walker View Post

                                                  my video is better Steven
                                                  Hey Todd, where can I see it. I'm always up for a good laugh LOL.
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                                                    • Profile picture of the author Ricky Parker
                                                      Here is the OG one I had in my profile on the old board.

                                                      Much better.

                                                      Steve, are you trying to one up me with your fancy video version?:p


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                                                      • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
                                                        Originally Posted by Ricky Parker View Post

                                                        Here is the OG one I had in my profile on the old board.

                                                        Much better.

                                                        Steve, are you trying to one up me with your fancy video version?:p


                                                        Actually, I just love the old "As The World Turns" theme and was looking
                                                        for a good excuse to post it here.

                                                        Interesting how this thread is unfolding and Danny's house of cards is
                                                        coming down like a slum demolition project.
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                                                        • Profile picture of the author Noah Fleming
                                                          I just read this all. Is Danny gone again? It seems there are posts missing now?

                                                          He'll be back again. This is what the 10th time now? How do we stop him for good? Wasn't there some issue with Danny and the Colorado Police investigating him on the old forum?
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                                                          • Profile picture of the author Richard Tunnah
                                                            Originally Posted by Noah Fleming View Post

                                                            I just read this all. Is Danny gone again? It seems there are posts missing now?

                                                            He'll be back again. This is what the 10th time now? How do we stop him for good? Wasn't there some issue with Danny and the Colorado Police investigating him on the old forum?
                                                            Yes looks like Danny/Richard/Steve is gone but no doubt he/she will be back again trying the same thing!

                                                            Rich
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                                                            • Profile picture of the author zapseo
                                                              Oh nevermind.

                                                              I just realized he's prolly swiping (er, stealing, not swiping) other folks' stuff.

                                                              Sigh.
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                                                              • Profile picture of the author Kay King
                                                                Got to admit the guys got a good script when he's caught.

                                                                Steve says "listen to my voice - you can tell it's me"

                                                                Jordyn said "how can you say I'm Wall - I'm a GIRL" and posted a photo of "a girl" in her profile

                                                                Bye Steve/Danny - till next time, you crud.
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                                                                • Profile picture of the author Greg Cooksley
                                                                  Yip, I think this guy is a pathological liar....they can't help
                                                                  themselves....

                                                                  We had one in our family. The nicest person you could ever meet.
                                                                  When new people met this person, they would fall over themselves
                                                                  saying how great the person is etc

                                                                  But, every time a coconut, this person would be involved in one
                                                                  scam after another. Even ripped family members off. Man, could
                                                                  this person weazel his way out of any situation and make you
                                                                  feel that it was YOUR fault....

                                                                  And yet, I must admit, the person was highly talented, had the
                                                                  gift of the gab and what charm - amazed everyone.

                                                                  SAD....

                                                                  So, where is this reputable Steve now? I mean if his credentials
                                                                  are squeaky clean????

                                                                  Just had a look at his forum profile:
                                                                  His Skype name is Confabber

                                                                  Regards

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                                                                  • Profile picture of the author ExRat
                                                                    Hi Greg,

                                                                    The nicest person you could ever meet.
                                                                    When new people met this person, they would fall over themselves
                                                                    saying how great the person is
                                                                    the person was highly talented, had the
                                                                    gift of the gab and what charm - amazed everyone
                                                                    ...Classic profile of a psychopath.

                                                                    I think it's worth trying to gain a constructive lesson from this - because the scammer will have definitely learned lessons and when they come back they won't make the same mistakes.

                                                                    For any of the newer members here - these things have happened before. Anyone who's been here a while gets to know lots of people and often can see when a scam is about to happen - BUT if you think about it, it's extremely difficult for anyone to 'get the word out.' Just think about it.

                                                                    What Bev did here is quite brave and is fraught with potential problems.

                                                                    What I would like people to remember is this -

                                                                    If you see someone come in here making outrageous claims and then you see longer standing members giving them a hard time - think, before you jump in and accuse them of bullying or negativity.

                                                                    Often, there is no benefit to the person. They are not about to fall for it and are simply trying to help others.

                                                                    In this scammer's WSO someone jumped in and told him to 'ignore the naysayers and sceptics' etc. I hope that person is reading this thread. That scammer was trying to get access to peoples' lists. Can you imagine the consequences if he had?

                                                                    So if you find people being sceptical, cautious, asking probing questions etc. Don't just write them off as a negative person. Don't slam them as a 'newbie bully'. Look at their words and see if they are trying to 'send a message'.

                                                                    HTH
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                                                                • Profile picture of the author Dana_W
                                                                  Gosh, Kay, next thing you'll be telling me that pictures of clickbank earnings can be faked! I mean, if Jordyn posts a picture of a girl, what more "incontrovertible" proof can we ask for?

                                                                  I notice that every single website attributed to Danny Wall, Loudle, and Patty Vortan is protected by domains by proxy so we can't see who they are registered to. (Full disclosure: I do that too, so I'm not saying it's ALWAYS a sign of ill intent. Okay, okay, I'm really a scammer and I'm also Steve Wagenheim, Allen Says, and Tiffany Dow. Fooled YOU, didn't I?)

                                                                  By the way, Danny Wall apparently has the power to control minds, and Patty Vortan used his mind control tricks to increase "her" conversion rate 223 percent.
                                                                  Buy Impulse: 26 Mind Control Tools!

                                                                  And yet, apparently Danny Wall could NOT control Bev Clement's mind. She must have a special helmet or something.



                                                                  Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

                                                                  Got to admit the guys got a good script when he's caught.

                                                                  Steve says "listen to my voice - you can tell it's me"

                                                                  Jordyn said "how can you say I'm Wall - I'm a GIRL" and posted a photo of "a girl" in her profile

                                                                  Bye Steve/Danny - till next time, you crud.
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                                                        • Profile picture of the author Kyle Tully
                                                          You know what the stupid thing about all this is?

                                                          The dude behind all of this is obviously pretty good at persuasion, copywriting, marketing...

                                                          He could make 100 times more money if he actually delivered on his promises! Damn, it's easier than trying to scam a few people, develop a new persona, re-build all that "trust" you had before etc.

                                                          That's what I don't understand.
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                                                          • Profile picture of the author Noah Fleming
                                                            Originally Posted by Kyle Tully View Post

                                                            You know what the stupid thing about all this is?

                                                            The dude behind all of this is obviously pretty good at persuasion, copywriting, marketing...

                                                            He could make 100 times more money if he actually delivered on his promises! Damn, it's easier than trying to scam a few people, develop a new persona, re-build all that "trust" you had before etc.

                                                            That's what I don't understand.
                                                            Keep in mind though, the scams have been going on since like 2002 or something.. I can't remember anymore. Just remember this guy is freaky and doesn't bring good energy to the board or anywhere he goes for that matter.

                                                            Who knows what Danny is really writing. A ton of his stuff was copied from Joyner if I remember correctly.
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                                                          • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
                                                            Originally Posted by Kyle Tully View Post

                                                            You know what the stupid thing about all this is?

                                                            The dude behind all of this is obviously pretty good at persuasion, copywriting, marketing...

                                                            He could make 100 times more money if he actually delivered on his promises! Damn, it's easier than trying to scam a few people, develop a new persona, re-build all that "trust" you had before etc.

                                                            That's what I don't understand.
                                                            You know what Kyle, I don't know the guy at all, but with the reputation
                                                            he has, I'll bet he has a hell of a lot more marketing smarts than I do. So
                                                            yeah, you're right, it's a shame that he doesn't use that mind for some
                                                            good.
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                                                          • Profile picture of the author Mark-Dickenson
                                                            Originally Posted by Kyle Tully View Post

                                                            You know what the stupid thing about all this is?

                                                            The dude behind all of this is obviously pretty good at persuasion, copywriting, marketing...

                                                            He could make 100 times more money if he actually delivered on his promises! Damn, it's easier than trying to scam a few people, develop a new persona, re-build all that "trust" you had before etc.

                                                            That's what I don't understand.
                                                            Totally! I actually worked with some people in the Mortgage Business that were just like this. I mean, they would jump through hoops just to do things crooked and it was so much extra work!!

                                                            It was like if there was a legit(and easier) way to do things and a crooked way, they would always take the crooked way...never understood it
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                                                    • Profile picture of the author msmonline
                                                      Interesting,...lately, I have been receiving several emails from this Jordyn person on a regular basis. Not sure who they are though. As for (Richard Earl), I agree with Jose, the guy can definitely make alot of money from his copywriting. He is damn good at it.
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                                            • Profile picture of the author Mike McBride
                                              Originally Posted by Steve Garrett View Post


                                              I've posted incontrovertible proof that Danny is not Mel is not me. Continue believing what you want.
                                              Incontrovertible? More like unbelievable, actually.

                                              Bev has earned a TON of credibility here over the years - a mountain of credibility, as it were, as opposed to the molehill of credibility you've accumulated with your replies here. And that molehill is eroding with each post.

                                              Alan made an excellent suggestion to you in this thread. Why not follow it?
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                                          • Profile picture of the author Jose Delgado
                                            Such a shame. The guy can make so much money from his copywriting. He is damn good.
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                                            • Profile picture of the author Bev Clement
                                              All the documents written on Steve's site apart from the 2 from the dog niche were written by Danny Wall and the earliest was written on the 17th August.

                                              I have a copy of each one, should they get changed now.
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                                                • Profile picture of the author Shane N
                                                  Dude, why don't you just make a video real quick and state your name, show your ID, and any other proof?

                                                  The fact that you are not taking that route makes it obvious...

                                                  EDIT: I just read that you don't own a webcam. (Yet you have a movie on your site..)

                                                  Well, I guess your up $%#& Creek!
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                                                • Profile picture of the author Dennis Murphy
                                                  Steve,

                                                  You wrote: "I have an ebook on my site at profitsitemanager dot com/emailmarketing.pdf

                                                  Uhh Dude, when I opened that PDF and I right click to check properties, it states that the documents author is "Danny Wall."

                                                  Care to explain why the document that YOU just created on 08/12/08 lists Danny Wall as the author?

                                                  Dennis

                                                  PS - I just downloaded ALL of your linked documents and they ALL list Danny Wall as the Author.
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                                                  • Steve, I feel for ya. I just HATE when I forget to change my name on my documents to an alias...

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                                                    • Profile picture of the author Dennis Murphy
                                                      "Steve",

                                                      I also made a Camtasia video of me clicking the links that you listed in the post above, then viewing the document properties directly from the documents sitting live on your site just in case you decide to change the author name or accuse us of changing the author name.

                                                      I don't appreciate it when a Senior Member of the WF get called a liar for exposing this kind of crap.

                                                      Nice try "Steve". Buh Bye.
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                                                  • Profile picture of the author J. Barry Mandel
                                                    I just did the exact same thing to help put an end to this saga and also checked properties...so surprise, surpise what did I see?

                                                    "Danny Wall" is the author under the PDF tab.

                                                    I didn't even bother to look at any other documents. The proof is in the pudding, er...the PDF.

                                                    And *THANK YOU* to Bev - good looking out for everyone here, it is much appreciated


                                                    Originally Posted by Dennis Murphy View Post

                                                    Steve,

                                                    You wrote: "I have an ebook on my site at profitsitemanager dot com/emailmarketing.pdf

                                                    Uhh Dude, when I opened that PDF and I right click to check properties, it states that the documents author is "Danny Wall."

                                                    Care to explain why the document that YOU just created on 08/12/08 lists Danny Wall as the author?

                                                    Dennis

                                                    PS - I just downloaded ALL of your linked documents and they ALL list Danny Wall as the Author.
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                                                    • Profile picture of the author Noah Fleming
                                                      Oh man.
                                                      I saw the title and I can't even force myself to read this thread.
                                                      OK maybe I will later this evening.

                                                      Way to go Bev!
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                                                        • Profile picture of the author Kay King
                                                          I'd prefer for the real Danny Wall to just go away.....

                                                          One thing never changes with wall/jordyn/et al - they will argue endlessly that it's not them, they aren't connected, etc and will never admit they've been caught yet again.

                                                          Claiming non-association while having Wall showing as the author of YOUR ebook in the properties - is about as dumb as it gets.

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                                                          • Profile picture of the author ExRat
                                                            Hi,

                                                            I've listened to enough of this, especially you having a go at my friend Bev.

                                                            Throughout this thread you are claiming that because three voices don't sound the same that proves you are legit...come again?

                                                            I wrote them literally as I sat there off the top of my head. That's the truth Bev ... I suppose you can prove otherwise or are you just going to post more unsubstantiated lies.
                                                            Are you trying to tell me you wrote -

                                                            'Autoresponder Magic'

                                                            and

                                                            'Million Dollar Emails'?

                                                            Because that's what you're claiming in your emails to your subscribers.

                                                            Along with -

                                                            I'm going to show you how to use forums to become
                                                            market authorities in record time, and use that "expert"
                                                            status to drive people in DROVES into your mailing list.
                                                            Just do one.
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                                                            • Profile picture of the author Michael Mayo
                                                              Roger,

                                                              Thanks for that info. I totally missed that!
                                                              I'm calling Vinnie in Chicago. He'll take care of this!

                                                              Hey where's Vegas Vince?
                                                              Vince, Tell Tony to give Vinnie a call. + =

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                                                              Originally Posted by ExRat View Post

                                                              Hi,

                                                              I've listened to enough of this, especially you having a go at my friend Bev.

                                                              Throughout this thread you are claiming that because three voices don't sound the same that proves you are legit...come again?



                                                              Are you trying to tell me you wrote -

                                                              'Autoresponder Magic'

                                                              and

                                                              'Million Dollar Emails'?

                                                              Because that's what you're claiming in your emails to your subscribers.

                                                              Along with -



                                                              Just do one.
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                                            • Profile picture of the author zapseo
                                              Originally Posted by Jose Delgado View Post

                                              Such a shame. The guy can make so much money from his copywriting. He is damn good.
                                              Yeah...I'm going....I wanna get my hands on some of that copy.

                                              If anyone wants to send it to me, I'll do an analysis
                                              (Well, maybe not on ALL of it....)

                                              Sorry.

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                            • Profile picture of the author Greg Cooksley
                              Originally Posted by Allen Graves View Post

                              I once got a free CD seminar from Danny
                              Wall which I thought was pretty darn good. You are right in the
                              fact that he is good with words.

                              I never bought anything from him, but I came close a couple of
                              times.

                              He also has (at least) twice used the "my friend is in dire need
                              of money - send me money now and I will mail you a huge package
                              of IM stuff."

                              I don't know if the people who sent money ever got the stuff,
                              but this happened right before he disappeared off the map...twice.

                              Is this thread breaking rule #1?

                              AL

                              Hey Allen,

                              I just downloaded his free stuff yesterday....and I have to admit
                              was pretty close to parting with my money....he's
                              very convincing!!!

                              So I really appreciated Bev alerting us to this today.

                              I believe we have a social responsibility to keep this place
                              as safe as possible especially considering how many newbies keep
                              coming here.....

                              Can't we have a sort of "Name & Shame" type board (for want of
                              a name???) that focusses on keeping this place free of scammers?

                              Regards

                              Greg
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                  • Profile picture of the author Greg Cooksley
                    Originally Posted by Bev Clement View Post

                    For those of you who are new, don't
                    get caught with the I made $4,500 in one day and then made $20k
                    in a week.

                    Danny Wall
                    Mark Wellsby
                    Richard Earl
                    Loudle
                    Jordyn Wellsby

                    Steve Gxxxxt (new member)

                    are all the same person.

                    If you read Steve's threads they are all in the same vein as
                    the others.

                    All his reports which he is kindly giving away were written by
                    Danny Wall

                    Some of his reports are not his to give away, as they are old
                    ones which never came with plr.

                    Warriors beware.

                    Hey Bev,

                    Thanks for posting about this......I was just looking at the
                    site yesterday.

                    I'll PM the site I'm talking about....please confirm if it's
                    the one.....

                    Guy claims he made 30 grand in 12 hours.......

                    Regards

                    Greg
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            • Originally Posted by Jose Delgado View Post

              What?!

              How Can ANYONE Possibly hate Bev?

              That's Impossible.
              That's what I was going to say. How can anybody hate Bev?
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              • Profile picture of the author Dana_W
                I swear to God it's like some kind of mental illness - creating new identities and coming back to this forum again and again with attempts to scam people. And doing things so badly - like having a document with Danny Wall's name on it that they make available to EVERYBODY! - that it almost seems like they WANT to get caught.

                And as other people here have pointed out - this person COULD make a great living as an internet marketer legitimately. What a waste of time and effort. It's truly a shame.
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                • Profile picture of the author Alan Petersen
                  Originally Posted by Dana_W View Post

                  I swear to God it's like some kind of mental illness - creating new identities and coming back to this forum again and again with attempts to scam people. And doing things so badly - like having a document with Danny Wall's name on it that they make available to EVERYBODY! - that it almost seems like they WANT to get caught.

                  And as other people here have pointed out - this person COULD make a great living as an internet marketer legitimately. What a waste of time and effort. It's truly a shame.
                  I was thinking the same exact thing. Not that it excuses his actions but he must be like a pathological liar. Even when caught he can't stop.

                  And the excuses are the sames one he used as Jordyn. I don't have a web cam. Etc., etc.
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          • Profile picture of the author Bev Clement
            John how did you miss all the saga of Jordyn on the old board

            The Warrior Forum - Now Jordyn Is Patty From San Diego

            will bring you up to speed on her/him/it
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            • Profile picture of the author John Rowe
              Originally Posted by Bev Clement View Post

              John how did you miss all the saga of Jordyn on the old board?
              I'll tell ya Bev, I'm starting to feel like I must have been abducted by aliens back when this was going on. This is the absoulute first time I've laid eyes or ears on any of this. I missed it completely! Kind of glad I did... but still...

              I'm scared.


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    • Profile picture of the author Chris Hunter
      Originally Posted by John Rowe View Post

      Hey Bev, if it's about a WSO then you can post about this in more detail... objectively... on the new subforum for discussing WSO's. I know I'd like more detail. I've never heard about Danny Wall, Jordyn.


      .
      John,

      What subforum are you talking about?
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      Ok, sure. You can follow me on Twitter - http://twitter.com/Chris_Hunter ;)

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  • Profile picture of the author Judy Wulff
    The latest email that I for him is: richard@primorismarketing.com
    Then last phone number for him was: 719-433-1981 it worked on Fri. but now is disconnected.
    I know because I am a victim of him.
    If anyone knows of a legit mentor who is genuine and wants to help...let me know.
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      • Profile picture of the author DaniMc
        If he's in Colorado....you guys want me to pay him a visit?

        Would be no problem whatsoever. I can "verify his ID."

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        • Originally Posted by Daniel McCoy View Post

          If he's in Colorado....you guys want me to pay him a visit?

          Would be no problem whatsoever. I can "verify his ID."

          Daniel
          For as long as this guy seems to have been at it, he's got to be expecting a knock at the door one day - if it hasn't happened already.

          I would imagine it would result in either no one answering, or some 'doesn't live here anymore' story.

          And really, these days - if you screw enough people, it would hardly be surprising to have someone show up at your door for more than just a "verbal confrontation".

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          • Profile picture of the author Jason Brown
            Missed all the excitement, but a big thank you to Bev for looking out for the WF.

            Rememeber, Bev is watching.........
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            • Profile picture of the author valerieSONORA
              Deja vu. Just like last time. He denies it like crazy at first, then when the proof becomes overwhelming, he vanishes in to thin air. He'll be back...but he'll do something to get caught again.
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