Copyright Infringement - I Need Advice

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what can i do when a website takes my content without my consent and not even displaying a link back to my site? can i report the website anywhere?

more specifically, the case is with a blog that spun my article -> smallbusinesscourse (dot) org/examples-of-niche-products-how-to-find-one

into this www (dot) teamalabama(dot)org/2011/09/examples-of-niche-products/

you cant even make sense of what is written in the article and the worst thing is that he is one place above me in the SERPs!!!

i need the advice of anyone who had any experience with such stuff!

thank you.
#advice #copyright #infringement
  • Profile picture of the author WendyWoudstra
    Something that every marketer should have in his or her arsenal is a DMCA takedown notice template.

    You can send a takedown notice to the ISP of the site that's copying your work, and to Google, and after they've had a chance to provide evidence that the work is rightfully theirs (which, based on my experience, they won't bother to even attempt to do), their listing on Google and the page and maybe even the site will be removed.

    If you need a sample letter, PM me with your email and I'll send you the one I use.
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    • Profile picture of the author costasn
      i didnt understand though about how to find and sent the template to the ISP, do i have to use the paid service of DMCA?

      i added the batch on my site, can i have more clarification please?

      thank you.
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    • Profile picture of the author ildarius
      Originally Posted by WendyWoudstra View Post

      Something that every marketer should have in his or her arsenal is a DMCA takedown notice template.

      You can send a takedown notice to the ISP of the site that's copying your work, and to Google, and after they've had a chance to provide evidence that the work is rightfully theirs (which, based on my experience, they won't bother to even attempt to do), their listing on Google and the page and maybe even the site will be removed.

      If you need a sample letter, PM me with your email and I'll send you the one I use.
      ^ that

      as long as they are not some Balkan VPS servers you should be fine. Most will definitely comply. if anything go to the registrar (if you fail with the host)
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  • Profile picture of the author RyanJohnson
    Don't sweat the small stuff because if THAT upsets you that much, then you might as well stop now because content gets scraped from websites daily.

    Now, I didn't look at your site or the oposing site, but as long as anyone is putting out good content, others are going to come along and scrape it... part of the game.

    Now, as far as him being above you in the serps, my guess is that's because your site is new. If you are the original author, your page will outrank him/her in time. For example:

    I built a brand new site on Red Widgets. I wrote an article on Red Widgets and submitted it to Ezine. For the first couple weeks, Ezine outranked me. Authority, popularity, etc, etc on their side. With a small bit of time, my site kept climbing and outranked them. It happens.... Try not to fret over the small stuff
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    • Profile picture of the author scrofford
      Originally Posted by RyanJohnson View Post

      Don't sweat the small stuff because if THAT upsets you that much, then you might as well stop now because content gets scraped from websites daily.

      Now, I didn't look at your site or the oposing site, but as long as anyone is putting out good content, others are going to come along and scrape it... part of the game.
      Content may get scaped from websites daily but it doesn't make it right and you should not sit idly by and allow it if it's your content. It's NOT just part of the game, and it's not "sweating the small stuff." It's illegal and should be dealt with! Sending a DCMA letter will do the trick a lot of times.

      Telling someone to just not sweat it or that it's just part of the game isn't right. People who have their content stolen should take action!
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      • Profile picture of the author RyanJohnson
        Originally Posted by scrofford View Post

        Content may get scaped from websites daily but it doesn't make it right and you should not sit idly by and allow it if it's your content. It's NOT just part of the game, and it's not "sweating the small stuff." It's illegal and should be dealt with! Sending a DCMA letter will do the trick a lot of times.

        Telling someone to just not sweat it or that it's just part of the game isn't right. People who have their content stolen should take action!
        calm down. I never said it was "right"..... I agree, it shouldn't happen. I don't like when mine is scraped either...

        All that said, how logical is it to "take action" when we are talking only about an article. Send them the DCMA letter, if it gets them to remove it, great... but what if they don't and their host doesn't do anything? then what?

        You going to pay lawyers fees and court costs over an article? Hardly worth it in my opinion ESPECIALLY when what they have done is taken and trashed an article. You really think their version is going to last long in the Search engines? Google is not that stupid. Taking legal actions and the money involved over an article is not worth it.

        And guess what the spammer is going to do? that's right... he's going to just ignore you and move on to the next good article...
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        • Profile picture of the author scrofford
          Originally Posted by RyanJohnson View Post

          calm down. I never said it was "right"..... I agree, it shouldn't happen. I don't like when mine is scraped either...

          All that said, how logical is it to "take action" when we are talking only about an article. Send them the DCMA letter, if it gets them to remove it, great... but what if they don't and their host doesn't do anything? then what?

          You going to pay lawyers fees and court costs over an article? Hardly worth it in my opinion ESPECIALLY when what they have done is taken and trashed an article. You really think their version is going to last long in the Search engines? Google is not that stupid. Taking legal actions and the money involved over an article is not worth it.

          And guess what the spammer is going to do? that's right... he's going to just ignore you and move on to the next good article...
          Am very calm dude...no worries, but this is what you said...

          "Don't sweat the small stuff because if THAT upsets you that much, then you might as well stop now because content gets scraped from websites daily."

          Like I said, using a DCMA and contacting the thief's ISP usually does the trick. True, going any further over just one article isn't really worth it but if it continues then I think it would be. If they think they can take one, then they'll do two and three and so on. So what starts out seemingly as "small stuff" COULD end up a terrible loss to you if you don't nip it in the bud.

          Also if you contact the thief's ISP they will shut him down in most cases.
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      • Profile picture of the author MattVit
        Originally Posted by scrofford View Post

        Content may get scaped from websites daily but it doesn't make it right and you should not sit idly by and allow it if it's your content. It's NOT just part of the game, and it's not "sweating the small stuff." It's illegal and should be dealt with! Sending a DCMA letter will do the trick a lot of times.

        Telling someone to just not sweat it or that it's just part of the game isn't right. People who have their content stolen should take action!
        I totally agree with this, mate.

        We shouldn't become complacent and just 'accept' that this happens. Take action. We can assume the person who stole this content probably stole content from other places too. With that in mind, consider that no one else has reported him, either due to not noticing, or complacency.
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    • Profile picture of the author costasn
      Originally Posted by WendyWoudstra View Post

      Something that every marketer should have in his or her arsenal is a DMCA takedown notice template.

      You can send a takedown notice to the ISP of the site that's copying your work, and to Google, and after they've had a chance to provide evidence that the work is rightfully theirs (which, based on my experience, they won't bother to even attempt to do), their listing on Google and the page and maybe even the site will be removed.

      If you need a sample letter, PM me with your email and I'll send you the one I use.
      thanks a lot, i dont think i can send a PM yet because i dont ahve enough posts but feel free to send the sample at info(at)smallbusinesscourse(dot)org

      thanks in advance.

      Originally Posted by RyanJohnson View Post

      Don't sweat the small stuff because if THAT upsets you that much, then you might as well stop now because content gets scraped from websites daily.

      Now, I didn't look at your site or the oposing site, but as long as anyone is putting out good content, others are going to come along and scrape it... part of the game.

      Now, as far as him being above you in the serps, my guess is that's because your site is new. If you are the original author, your page will outrank him/her in time. For example:

      I built a brand new site on Red Widgets. I wrote an article on Red Widgets and submitted it to Ezine. For the first couple weeks, Ezine outranked me. Authority, popularity, etc, etc on their side. With a small bit of time, my site kept climbing and outranked them. It happens.... Try not to fret over the small stuff
      thank you for the advice! I do not really sweat about this, maybe its the way i write that make things so serious

      its just that i was amazed that he stole my content and at the same time having a higher ranking !!

      thank you both!
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  • Profile picture of the author Daniel Wilson
    Send email to their hosting provider. They will remove it almost certainly.
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  • Profile picture of the author art72
    Sounds to me like your article/content was snagged by an "auto-blogging software"... all these 1-click crap software's that have been hitting Clickbank one after another all operate on 'scraping content' ...supposedly capable of 'spinning it' into readable content, and the end result is gibberish garbage.

    When commission ignition hit the market, I was finding my content on several 'auto-blog' sites. I didn't worry too much about it. I was more concerned I didn't want these sites linked back to me, as opposed to the 'unreadable' versions of my work they had posted. I quickly learned that these sites will 'plummet' into the abyss of hell as Google will quickly take notice the content sucks... so my advice, concentrate on getting your content to those who can benefit from it, syndicated, or both.

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  • Profile picture of the author Steve Wells
    I believe this is a great idea.............

    http:// www. dmca.com
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    • Profile picture of the author kindsvater
      Since it appears neither of you are in the US you need to find a US connection to submit a DMCA notice that someone will pay attention to.

      Remember, the DMCA is part of US law. I believe you're in Europe. The idiot is in Indonesia.

      If you strike out with the web host file a notice with his domain registrar. Since it is a .org domain there is an automatic US connection that gives you a route to success.

      I would have suggested filing a criminal complaint in Indonesia. That would teach him a painful lesson. But some quick research suggested you may not get very far. It is probably worth looking into though.

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    • Profile picture of the author costasn
      thank you guys for the great advice, i already sent the email to the host and received a reply saying that it will be investigated.

      if nothing happens i believe that i will just let it go, unless its a big problem in the future.

      thanks again
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    You can always submit one to Google if the hosts fail to take down. Google often responds to DMCAs by delisting the page or site.
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  • Profile picture of the author verbose
    No sure if this was mentioned but put 1 or 2 links pointing back to your site. I believe you can display the links as text with out any color change. This way the guy is passing link juice back to you
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    • Profile picture of the author networkersmagnet
      Originally Posted by verbose View Post

      No sure if this was mentioned but put 1 or 2 links pointing back to your site. I believe you can display the links as text with out any color change. This way the guy is passing link juice back to you
      that will be great trick,,, and those article thief will be doing a great work for you... Unwillingly pointing you as the real author of the article...
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  • Profile picture of the author David Keith
    another important point is that a copyright only protects your words, not your ideas. so depending on how much "spinning" is done to your content, you may not actually even a legal leg to stand on.

    what i am saying is that if a person reads your article, and then in turn re-writes your article in their words, you cant do much about that. the key thing about article spinning is that it is in affect re-writing your content using automated tools.

    some spinning software will change the article very little, and you might have some recourse, but sending out letters to people or their web hosts for content that merely resembles content you wrote, is not likely to get you far.

    to prove that, you would likely need both a pattern of behavior from the offender stealing lots of your content and a lawyer.

    dont get me wrong, i am not saying someone didn't steal your content, or that its not wrong to do so, but if the content you are saying is stolen does not even match content that is on your site, then i think you are fighting an uphill battle.
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  • Profile picture of the author pacelattin
    First of all, your content actually needs ot be copyrighted. I copyright my stuff by putting it once a month in a "book" and submitting.
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    • Profile picture of the author David Keith
      Originally Posted by pacelattin View Post

      First of all, your content actually needs ot be copyrighted. I copyright my stuff by putting it once a month in a "book" and submitting.
      while i am not a lawyer nor am i qualified to give legal advice...but

      this is just not true. you do not have to submit your content for it to have the legal copyright protections.

      of course, if you get into a legal battle though, it would of course help.

      could you imagine the number of people that government agency would have to have to handle all the submissions of every piece of content written every day just in the offline world, much less online.
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  • Profile picture of the author JeanneLynn
    This happened to me. My work was stolen from someone in Canada. I reported the website to Google and they got de-indexed. I set up Google alerts on each article I write so I can easily find the perps and report them.
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  • Profile picture of the author TheJustWarrior
    This is why I have never swallowed the "syndication" technical argument.

    I have several thousand articles written diligently over the years, nearly all of them are raped and pillaged.

    I can spend hours looking for even one syndicator that actually keeps my resource box intact.

    I understand your content was not for syndication but was simply sitting on your web presence. 99% of syndicators are actually ghouls raping content. The other 1% that actually have good websites with traffic have their own well tested and rightly priced writers and they do not need my article with my invasive resource box and link.

    The syndication argument prevalent on this forum merely makes me boggle at what they are talking about. The reality and the technicality definitely do not add up.
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