How Frank Kern Makes Millions

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Is it just me or is what Frank Kern and other "guru's" do simply build email lists and then market to those lists with affiliate offers?

I know im making it very very simple and obviously the system can be as complex as we want it to be... i.e. how to write the emails, how to build the squeeze page, what niche to target, how to use selling psychology....

But essentially all of the sites, blogs and products ive seen from the massive gurus all teach this same technique.

Am i missing something here?
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  • Profile picture of the author viffer211
    You've only just realised?

    Don't forget that there is the obligatory 2k course and then the live events where you have to pay handsomely to learn about.....selling stuff. Who'd have thought you could make money from selling stuff?
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  • Profile picture of the author tsuccess
    I would say technically you're right. Especially as far as internet marketers teaching in the internet marketing/make money niche is concerned. So as far as this niche is concerned basically everyone is teaching the same thing, but there are many different methods being taught on how exactly to do it and what methods to use.
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  • Profile picture of the author wfhblueprints
    Affiliate offers and selling their own products....

    Product creation is by far the more profitable of the two for marketers like Frank Kern.....its then a question of the odd affiliate offer here and there to top up their earnings...

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  • Profile picture of the author igrowyourbiz
    you are missing a few things...but not much
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  • Profile picture of the author WillR
    Originally Posted by Andrei Rotariu View Post

    Am i missing something here?
    Frank Kern doesn't just sell affiliate products. Frank Kern creates his own products, holds live workshops, seminars, etc.

    Originally Posted by Andrei Rotariu View Post

    But essentially all of the sites, blogs and products ive seen from the massive gurus all teach this same technique.
    1. I've seen plenty of stuff from gurus that have nothing to do with affiliate marketing. Jeff Walkers Product Launch Formula. Franks Kern Mass Control. John Reese Traffic Secrets. Mike Filsaime's Butterly Effect. I could go on and on. But none of these are teaching affiliate marketing.

    2. You might do well to stand back and ask yourself why a lot of these 'guru's are telling people to build lists and promote offers.

    Here's a little excerpt from an email Mike Filsaime personally sent me a few years ago. It made a BIG difference to my online journey at the time. Sometimes you just need to hear it from the right person...

    "Screw SEO, screw CPA screw web 2.0 ( for now) screw it all. If you focus on giving stuff away for free, and building a list, man I am telling you... you can get 40 optins per day. In 1 year you will have 15k members and make $15k a month just as an affiliate.

    Let people know you through video. Get started on building a list and relationship and watch what happens. FORGET EVERYTHING else for now.

    If you take this advice and become a world class list builder, you will have everything you ever wanted. Focus JUST on that like a laser. Make money as an affiliate with the list.

    And as the list grow, you will make money 1000/m then 3000/m etc on your way to that 15lk and beyond..."
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  • Profile picture of the author Marhelper
    Building the brand (himself), building hype and building demand ... yep!
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  • Profile picture of the author Brendan Vraibel
    Although it is stated quite often, the phrase "the money is in the list" holds a lot of weight. Even further than that I would say that the money is in your relationship with the list. Treat a list well, provide content and don't over promote and your list will take care of you.
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  • Kind of.

    It's largely the same in every niche though.

    In any profitable internet marketing niche, there will inevitably be one or two gurus who popularize a set of ideas, and then a flock of immitators who come along and try to leech off that main set of ideas by repackaging them in using slightly different terminology.

    This happens most frequently when a previously "underground" niche finally gets a bit of mainstream exposure.

    For example, the whole men's dating/pickup artist niche was largely a very underground "fringe" niche, until some guy wrote a book that hit the mainstream and brough a certain set of principles within that niche (i.e. harrassing random women at bars and clubs following a set 1-2-3 procedure of sexual escalation) to the public. Suddenly, you had a lot of guys writing e-books dispensing advice of the form "to get women, you need to go out, approach stangers, and quickly get them to like you by performing a variety of tactics to show that your social status is higher than theirs."

    You also see this pretty often in the diet and exercise niche. People are always wanting quick magic pills to help them lose weight. Often, someone will come up with a weight loss system that either lets you keep eating junk food (the zero carb diet thing) or jazzes up boring exercise stuff by turning it into a song and dance thing (tae-bo). When one of these methods gets very popular, you will naturally see a ton of imitators popping up trying to capitalize.

    In internet marketing, the list build + product promotion formula gets imitated a lot for one reason: it works. To date, nobody has come up with a more cost effective system of promoting what you're selling than having a large, active list. So for the forseeable future, people will keep making products on this topic.
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  • Profile picture of the author celente
    Frank kern is actually killer.

    Do not buy his stuff, just sit back and learn what he is doing and how he is doing it. The magic is in how he does it, not what is in his products.

    Now I am not saying his products are crap, cause I have about 75% of them, and they are great.....but I have learnt more from just sitting back and watching him, and his videos, and what his is doing, rather than his content.

    He does not spam his list, and does not email often, but when he does, you know the stuff is going to be pretty good right. Learn from this, and just watch all the processes he has. Its magical....and yes!, building a list is the single most important thing to any business. Once you realise this, and create a good relationship with then, you will never look back.
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    • Profile picture of the author WillR
      Originally Posted by celente View Post

      Frank kern is actually killer.

      Do not buy his stuff, just sit back and learn what he is doing and how he is doing it. The magic is in how he does it, not what is in his products.

      Now I am not saying his products are crap, cause I have about 75% of them, and they are great.....but I have learnt more from just sitting back and watching him, and his videos, and what his is doing, rather than his content.
      This is so true. Majority of the email lists I am on are for that very reason. Not only do they keep me up to date with the latest happenings and products in my industry, products that I might otherwise have missed, but they are also a great way to see how others are marketing to their lists.

      I agree that a lot of the good stuff can be learnt by just observing. At the end of the day money is made when you sell things. So doesn't it make sense to concentrate more on the way these gurus are selling their products rather than the products themselves. It's the smartest way to replicate their success.

      The unfortunate reality is most people get pulled in by the actual product. Little do they know they could be learning a lot more by just watching the process happening right in front of their eyes.
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  • Profile picture of the author Msands
    I'm just like you...I learn alot of stuff from Jim Cockrum...he seems to be very knowledgable about IM...the one thing he always tells people is concentrate on building a list...Forget about website or affiliate marketing...build the list first and then you'll have the traffic you need to affiliate market and build a website...

    I think Ima listen to all of the gurus on this one...Build the list dude...
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  • Profile picture of the author sdentrepreneur
    Build a big list, create a relationship with your list, create your own product/course and market your product and other peoples affiliate products to your list. Wow...I did that in one sentence...
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    • Profile picture of the author dejoliet31
      In a nutshell, you're right on target, but Frank Kern has mastered the nuances of building lists, product development, building community, etc. Like any number of complex tasks, things can be taken to their lowest common denominator just like building email lists and selling to them. Now the trick is watching the Frank Kerns, Jim Cockrums, etc. and cloning what they do. Do so require skill, perseverance, and some detective work, but is worth the effort.

      For a number of product launches, I followed the Leader Boards and did some competitive analyses. It quickly became obvious that: (1) Those who were at the top of the Leader Boards were selling to their lists; (2) They generally had sizable lists; and (3) They also had products of their own. Though they continue to build their lists, using a myriad of methods, because of their lists and the variety of traffic methods they use, they are what I call "Google insulated." Their worlds don't fall apart when and if Google slaps.
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  • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
    Yeah, simplicity at its best. Ain't it cool? Here we all are trying to find the holy grail and it's all about building a list. Hmmm... Seems this Internet Marketing stuff is nothing but a numbers game with a few adjustable features. Nice.
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  • Profile picture of the author jamesrich1
    Frank Kern got rich off of learning the skill copywriting and using it to launch his own products, build massive affiliate teams and help other marketers have big product launches by doing the copywriting.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jim Cockrum
      Originally Posted by jamesrich1 View Post

      Frank Kern got rich off of learning the skill copywriting and using it to launch his own products, build massive affiliate teams and help other marketers have big product launches by doing the copywriting.
      Copywriting skills, being "cool", being in the "cool crowd" for JV's, SEO, big launches of your own products, being good with video, using a launch strategy etc. all combined are all about 5% of the success factor with the "gurus" in my opinion.

      Having a big list, giving your readers content THAT WORKS, and being a leader is 80% of the pie.

      The other 15% that keeps you around is actually caring about the people on your list enough to respect them. This is where the guys that "come and go" really mess up.

      I hope that makes sense....it's how I've built my biz to seven figures WITHOUT being great or even good at any of the top skills (the 5% skills I listed above).
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      • Profile picture of the author bretski
        Are any of you actually ON Frank Kern's list? I am and I don't think that I've ever gotten an affiliate offer from him. So, no, that isn't what Frank Kern does.

        Honestly, I encourage you to get on his list and learn from the man. He gives away more information than most people will sell to you.
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        • Profile picture of the author Bill Farnham
          Originally Posted by bretski View Post

          Are any of you actually ON Frank Kern's list? I am and I don't think that I've ever gotten an affiliate offer from him. So, no, that isn't what Frank Kern does.
          Somebody's not paying attention.

          I've gotten a few affiliate offers from Frank.

          In fact, he likes to get cutesy with pointing out his affiliate links in his emails.

          But let's face it, most people could have the same size list Frank has but they wouldn't get the same response from their list like he does.

          The reason?

          Frank drips with 'cool' like few others do.

          And I'll be willing to bet most folks had no idea cool was bankable to the degree that Frank makes it.

          ~Bill

          P.S. There you go...I just ruined my reputation in public...
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          • Profile picture of the author rts2271
            He grinds the bones of kittens and sells them to the Mexican drug cartels.

            lol I hope he reads that.

            I have one of his secrets. He sells stuff on the internet.
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          • Profile picture of the author sal64
            Better grow your hair, lose the moustache and take up surfing, Bill... you just never know.

            Originally Posted by Bill Farnham View Post

            Somebody's not paying attention.

            I've gotten a few affiliate offers from Frank.

            In fact, he likes to get cutesy with pointing out his affiliate links in his emails.

            But let's face it, most people could have the same size list Frank has but they wouldn't get the same response from their list like he does.

            The reason?

            Frank drips with 'cool' like few others do.

            And I'll be willing to bet most folks had no idea cool was bankable to the degree that Frank makes it.

            ~Bill

            P.S. There you go...I just ruined my reputation in public...
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            • Profile picture of the author goindeep
              Im sorry, I lied. I knew. I wasnt missing anything. I just wanted interaction. :rolleyes:...

              I agree with Celente. Ive watched Frank Kern for years now, he was one of the first that turned me onto IM.

              I knew a guy from a seminar I had gone too a couple years back who had purchased his first Mass Control. This guy was the one that told me that Mass Control was nothing but list building and affiliate marketing... and he paid like 2K for that product or whatever it was going for at the time.

              No doubt Franks products contain all the psychology, copy and supremely crazy evil marketing tactics (hehe - i seen too many of his free videos from his bat cave) which extract money from peoples pockets.... I dont even have mass control and I know that.

              But its the simple concepts that one has to understand (build a list, send that list an offer after you give them free stuff), the rest is just tweaking and testing which undoubtedly could earn you a lot more and get you a bigger ROI, but for newbies or people who still work a day job, 1k, 2k, 3k or whatever is better then when they where making NO money online. Hell we all know someone that would like to even make an extra $200 per month.

              And the fact of the matter is that building a good sized targeted list, giving that list free stuff and then affiliate marketing to that list will help ANYONE make money.

              The difference: I found this same thing out just by watching Kern and others, my list's are ever growing and I make money from them...

              Read WillR's quote from Mike Filsaimes email to him.

              -Andrei
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          • Profile picture of the author Isaiah Jackson
            Originally Posted by Bill Farnham View Post

            Somebody's not paying attention.

            I've gotten a few affiliate offers from Frank.

            In fact, he likes to get cutesy with pointing out his affiliate links in his emails.

            But let's face it, most people could have the same size list Frank has but they wouldn't get the same response from their list like he does.

            The reason?

            Frank drips with 'cool' like few others do.

            And I'll be willing to bet most folks had no idea cool was bankable to the degree that Frank makes it.

            ~Bill

            P.S. There you go...I just ruined my reputation in public...
            I only got one affiliate offer from Frank and that was for Jeff's PLF 3.2 and I believe that is because he was actually on the live webcast other than that its been a while since I got an affiliate offer from him.
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            • Profile picture of the author goindeep
              Originally Posted by Isaiah Jackson View Post

              I only got one affiliate offer from Frank and that was for Jeff's PLF 3.2 and I believe that is because he was actually on the live webcast other than that its been a while since I got an affiliate offer from him.

              Name = "Frank Kern" does not send you affiliate offers for 'dog food secrets' or 'how to get your ex back'... They come from John Doe and Jane Doe.

              Do you honestly think Frank Kern started selling MMO products onine?
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  • Profile picture of the author TinMan100
    List building and marketing to same is what IM is all about
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  • Profile picture of the author Kal Sallam
    It took me a minute before I realised, wait a minute... what do all the big dogs have in common? A huge responsive emial list! hmmm...Offcourse its never easy to have a huge responsive list but it sure is do-able through HARD work..Then almost everything else becomes Easy..
    Man I'm telling you it took me a minute.

    All what matters now is: the ratio between clickspen rates: conversions.



    Kal...
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  • Profile picture of the author pacelattin
    You know the other day I decided to look up one of these "gurus" mansions in middle america. He was always talking about how much money he makes, how he has all these cars and lives in a huge mansion, even took photos outside.

    Through a little bit of research and public records, I found his phone number and address.

    So his "multi-million dollar" mansion, turned out to be worth $425k. The photos he took wasn't his house. Not saying the guy didn't make money, probably makes a nice income, but he didn't make the tens of millions he claimed through affiliate marketing.

    All of these guys speak at the events, charge you for money. They prey on people's desire to make money, and they make all their money on that. They take stuff that everyone writers about, repackages it and then sells it to you.

    They used to be called snake-oil salesmen, now they are "make money online" guys.
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    • Profile picture of the author bretski
      Pacelattin... not sure what this has to do with Frank Kern...??? Focus, son...
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  • Profile picture of the author Damielle
    Don't forget the product that's being sold.
    This is the missing ingredient.

    95% of online marketers don't make any money. I'm willing to bet that about the same percentage don't have a product of their own selling.

    Think about it.
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    • Originally Posted by Damielle View Post

      Don't forget the product that's being sold.
      This is the missing ingredient.

      95% of online marketers don't make any money. I'm willing to bet that about the same percentage don't have a product of their own selling.

      Think about it.
      95% is not a true number, from what I notice it's way more then that.
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  • Profile picture of the author sal64
    Hmmmmm..

    Build list

    Sell to list

    Make money

    By George, I think I've just cracked the code!

    Woo hoo...
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  • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
    Originally Posted by Andrei Rotariu View Post

    Is it just me or is what Frank Kern and other "guru's" do simply build email lists and then market to those lists with affiliate offers?
    For perspective, is it just me or is what Warren Buffet does simply buy and sell stock?

    There's no "simply" about it.
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    • Profile picture of the author goindeep
      I sold lemonade as a kid Matt, it was simple. I dont even remember thinking about it or making any plans. I just seen some cartoons (maybe Bart Simpson) do it on the TV, so I just went and did it...

      .. maybe im just a special little boy.

      Or maybe im not... lol.

      7up sell lemonade too.
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  • Profile picture of the author Matthew Anton
    Yes, but building a list, like others have stated is the bulk of the battle. In order to get others to trust you, or opt in to what you are saying/selling you need to bring credibility to the table. So yes, profit is a byproduct of the value you bring to others.
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  • Profile picture of the author ryanmckinney
    Over the years, he has built trust amongst his subscribers, built a massive list I am sure, and markets to that list. Created products, talks at seminars, the whole gambit.

    He is just unlucky, in his day starting out, they didn't have shiny push button things to make you rich the next day, he had to actually build a business. Sucks for him, we all get to push buttons! MUAHAHHAAH
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  • Profile picture of the author ShawnBrown
    Building a list is a big part of what Frank Kern does and what we should all be doing.

    The difference between Frank and most marketers, (other than being cooler than the other side of the pillow) is that he has systematically built a persona as being one the greatest marketers online. Now this persona has become reality. Others now spread his persona for him. This is one of the most important parts to his greatness.

    So, Frank Kern does build a list but because of the above his list has a perception of him and feel like they have a relationship with him.

    His perception and perceived relationship he has with his list is one of his greatest achievements.
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    Thank you for the share. I am on fire to do the same
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  • Profile picture of the author lotsofsnow
    Originally Posted by Andrei Rotariu View Post

    Is it just me or is what Frank Kern and other "guru's" do simply build email lists and then market to those lists with affiliate offers?
    Yes, that is basically correct. They also sell their own products to their lists as well.

    Just to clarify whether Fran Kern sells affiliate products or not:


    That's from an email that I received 4 days ago.
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  • Profile picture of the author bwh1
    He first of all is a brilliant marketer which sell to you his brand FRANK KERN.

    After that, all he send's you is just pure genius, even the simplest video has value in it (or a beautiful beach).

    I never purchased any of his products, but I love to follow him to see how he does it.

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    they know what people want to spend money on even if it really doesn't help them.
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  • Originally Posted by Andrei Rotariu View Post

    Is it just me or is what Frank Kern and other "guru's" do simply build email lists and then market to those lists with affiliate offers?

    I know im making it very very simple and obviously the system can be as complex as we want it to be... i.e. how to write the emails, how to build the squeeze page, what niche to target, how to use selling psychology....

    But essentially all of the sites, blogs and products ive seen from the massive gurus all teach this same technique.

    Am i missing something here?
    What they *teach* and what they (really) *do* are two very different things. You'd get a much better answer by asking people in their inner-circle about what's going on and how they make their money.

    Do they make money by building big email lists and sending email offers? Sure. A few grand here and there. Nice cash-flow to keep a business running -- but not the "secret to their success" by a long shot!

    At the risk of sounding arrogant (too late, right?) I'm going to throw you a few nuggets that can transform anyone's Internet business. I could go back and forth and make a point and then back it up -- but who are we kidding? As awesome as this place is, I'm still at a free forum so it really wouldn't be worth my while to start a coaching session.

    So, without further ado - here's the meat 'n potatoes...

    1) They are not in the "build a big list and email them promotions" business.

    2) They create offers. (That's the real business they are in) I'm not talking about "products" -- I mean offers. An offer is basically the block of text at the end of a sales letter that defines what they're offering and calls people to action. They are masters of "irresistible offers". The actual product is a by-product of the offer they create.

    3) They use those offers to solicit partners with clout (big lists, name recognition, industry expertise...etc). (Kern calls his group the "Syndicate").

    ** It's important to note that even INDIVIDUALS with lists upward of 300,000 subs - are still going to have a tough time moving a lot of high-ticket products. That's why you need an inner-circle. No matter how you slice it YOUR own lists will only buy so much of the stuff that YOU produce. So you need to cross-promote to keep a fresh flow of customers and subscriber coming in (ones that are not tired of you already).

    4) The real list building stage is done by (drumroll) YOU (the huddled masses) when you drive traffic to the product "pre-launch" site through your affiliate promotions, SEO campaigns etc. You're probably looking at around 50,000 "new" subs and up (on average) for these promotions.

    5) I don't know why I'm numbering these points since they are not necessarily in order. Whatever.

    6) They distill the big email list to find the big spenders and focus on selling those folks more often. (Less than 2% of the bulk email list in most cases)

    7) They QUIT EMAILING their best clients and move to more profitable channels. (This is where they are actually making their cash)

    So, yeah - that's a little bit about the real business going on.

    And just because I'm feeling particularly abrasive today, I'm gonna get brutally controversial right now and straight up fly-in-the-face of most of the commenters in this thread when I say that EVERYONE making real money in this business is NOT following the "grow a big list and email offers" to make money.

    Why? Because anyone that actually knows what they're doing would rather put a gun to their head than build a business based on an email list! Scream at the top of your lungs all you want, the fact is that, dollars-to-donuts, emails are the ABSOLUTE WORST converting communication medium in the entire history of mankind!

    You see the emails and the websites...

    What you DON'T get to see is the real sales funnel (upsells, cross-sells, phone pitches, direct mail pieces...etc) which is where the real money is made.

    Now...since I've applied my sunscreen...let the flaming begin...
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    • Profile picture of the author Soren
      Originally Posted by Vinnie View Post

      ** It's important to note that even INDIVIDUALS with lists upward of 300,000 subs - are still going to have a tough time moving a lot of high-ticket products. That's why you need an inner-circle. No matter how you slice it YOUR own lists will only buy so much of the stuff that YOU produce. So you need to cross-promote to keep a fresh flow of customers and subscriber coming in (ones that are not tired of you already).
      I think you're sooo incredibly wrong. You sound almost like one of the GURU's now ;-)

      If you're not only thinking about how to milk your list for best profit, but if you deliver value to them over and over again without charging a penny for it. Then every single time you have a new big product launch, of course they'll buy from you over and over again.. IF you have something new to teach them. Something of true value to them, that can help them move ahead.

      This is how you build a long-term business the right way, the moral way. By building report, connection, trust .. almost like a relationship.

      I think most GURU's gets so obsessed by money, even though they have plenty, that they forget what's important in life. The reason why they're bombarding their list with affiliate (cross promotion) offers, I believe is because they share your point of view.

      But that only tells so much about themselves, and their ambition in life.

      They couldn't care less about their list, and when people realize that, they'll become ZERO profit subscribers. Then they're just staying on their list, to seek inspiration for improving their own swipe files, or coming up with ideas for future products.

      However I have to agree with you on:

      Originally Posted by Vinnie View Post

      What they *teach* and what they (really) *do* are two very different things.
      One of the biggest mysteries in life, at least for me, is WHY the GURU's starts as Gods for newbie IMers, then they over-market and destroy their relationship with the newbies, when they soon realize what the game is all about.

      I've only seen 1 of the top IM'ers that truly understands how to keep his list excited about him and his brand. I would buy his product any time..

      I guess the other GURU's are using this tactic, because really, they don't have anything else to offer - other than old wine on new bottles. Those that do, however, don't have to abuse their lists to "keep a fresh flow of buyers and subscribers coming in"

      The word of mouth is THAT powerful! Which is what we all should strive to achieve mastery at.. And the only way to do that, is to stop serving crap to our audience and deliver world class quality products EVERY single time!
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  • Profile picture of the author trnz
    I tried to send for 2 different free ebooks but both contact points were dead?
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  • Profile picture of the author Zero
    He finds out what people want, and then sells it to them - that the stuff he sells is just so much better than everyone else's stuff, and he over delivers, he's super cool and very likeable.
    He studied the old school direct marketing guys, learnt from them and applies that stuff in his business.
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  • "Frank Kern" - Is a character created in late 2000 by Young & Rubicam to gauge the internet media IQ.
    (The actor Peter Snozlofsky is frequently seen playing the character on screen.)
    It is a brand creation, much like Betty Crocker, and Chef Boyardee, and Ronald McDonald...

    The character was loosely based on The Big Lebowski - a 1998 comedy film written and directed by Joel and Ethan Coen. Jeff Bridges stars as Jeff Lebowski, an unemployed Los Angeles slacker and avid bowler, who is referred to (and also refers to himself) as "The Dude". After a case of mistaken identity, The Dude is introduced to a millionaire also named Jeffrey Lebowski. When the millionaire Lebowski's trophy wife is later kidnapped, he commissions The Dude to deliver the ransom to secure her release.









    :rolleyes:
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  • Profile picture of the author JackPowers
    Lol there is nothing magical about what these so called gurus do.

    They simply use their 'inside' circle of friends to hype up whatever crap product they're launching (never at the same time). It's like a big circle jerk.

    Then naive and gullible people by their ****.

    They would have been arrested years ago in Europe, only the USA allows people to scam people so easily.
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    • Profile picture of the author Black Hat Cat
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      Originally Posted by JackPowers View Post

      Lol there is nothing magical about what these so called gurus do.

      They simply use their 'inside' circle of friends to hype up whatever crap product they're launching (never at the same time). It's like a big circle jerk.

      Then naive and gullible people by their ****.

      They would have been arrested years ago in Europe, only the USA allows people to scam people so easily.
      I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess you keep a large supply of tinfoil on hand at all times, lol.
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  • Profile picture of the author millionebook
    The money is in the list.... Keep building a list for every niche
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  • Profile picture of the author hustlinsmoke
    They do come out with products. Some one a year others a few and some many, but yes it is about building a list. And yes you need to subsidize while your between products so affiliate sales is good for that.

    The money is in the list.
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  • Profile picture of the author footbag_man
    An awful lof of the products teach the exact same methods just rehasehed. Ive never bought any of frank's products but I am now getting coaching from a warrior here.

    It is very expensive but I can really see myself making a lot more money from it.

    Fergal

    Originally Posted by Andrei Rotariu View Post

    Is it just me or is what Frank Kern and other "guru's" do simply build email lists and then market to those lists with affiliate offers?

    I know im making it very very simple and obviously the system can be as complex as we want it to be... i.e. how to write the emails, how to build the squeeze page, what niche to target, how to use selling psychology....

    But essentially all of the sites, blogs and products ive seen from the massive gurus all teach this same technique.

    Am i missing something here?
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  • Profile picture of the author bigballin6161
    How do you get on his list? Wouldnt mind checking out his AR stuff.
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