Tips on Improving my writing?!

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Hey guy`s so first I want to say is that I am getting out there and work! I have been writing articles for some clients, using fiverr.com and been using squidoo a little more! I haven`t been lazy!! Anyways

So I want to improve my writing, any classes, lessons, people I could talk to that might be able to work on my writing skills? Any sites that can help me with grammer, run on sentences , and using conjunctions to much? Anything can help guys I need to become more competitive with my writing so I get paid more for some basic writing!
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  • Profile picture of the author Marhelper
    Get a dictionary, thesaurus, and basic grammar book and write like crazy. That's a good start.
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    • Profile picture of the author jhuman
      check out the Gary Halbert letters.
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  • Profile picture of the author Brendan Vraibel
    Probably not the answer that you're looking for and I wish I had more to recommend but practice makes perfect. Keep writing and writing until you build up a solid list of testimonials. Once you build a strong enough presence you will be able to raise prices. You are for sure on the right path, just keep it up.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dennisknows
    I blog so grammer is very important. I've also written a very popular ebook.. One of my biggest problems before my recent ebook was:

    Their, there and they're. I don't know whether or not you know the differences in them but they're important and very recognizable if used wrong. I didn't have a clue what they meant and i'm 27. i can only imagine how many times I've used them wrong in past blog post.

    I'm sure the other WF members offered some great advise on people to follow and material to study. I just thought I'd throw that in there.

    Best of luck

    Also... what type of articles do you mainly focus on writing?
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    • Profile picture of the author Karen Connell
      Originally Posted by Dennisknows View Post

      ...Their, there and they're. I don't know whether or not you know the differences in them but they're important and very recognizable if used wrong. I didn't have a clue what they meant and i'm 27. i can only imagine how many times I've used them wrong in past blog post.
      A couple of other common and often confused words: to and too, and (my personal pet hate) your and you're.
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  • Profile picture of the author marcuslim
    You write better by writing more and reading more. Go read sales letters, articles. Frank Kern once suggested reading 'trash' fiction as it is the most widely read published material in the world.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gary Ning Lo
    Maybe you could use Dragon NaturallySpeaking

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    • Profile picture of the author nellterry
      Read other articles posted on popular websites. Look for clues about tone, punctuation, and content. Apply what you've learned to your writing. One of the best ways to learn is to observe. The next best way is to practice.
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  • Profile picture of the author ericbryant
    Check out writing trainer blogs, for sure. Pro's that travel around and train, or sell products. Obviously, their free content, their image, is very well done, as they have an image to create for themselves. And sign up for every free webinar you can from the Pro's.
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  • Profile picture of the author Seleon
    I think the more you write the better you get at it, keep a dictionary handy, keep it simple and straight forward...
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  • Profile picture of the author jeresteem99
    Originally Posted by Tonylee93 View Post

    Hey guy`s so first I want to say is that I am getting out there and work! I have been writing articles for some clients, using fiverr.com and been using squidoo a little more! I haven`t been lazy!! Anyways

    So I want to improve my writing, any classes, lessons, people I could talk to that might be able to work on my writing skills? Any sites that can help me with grammer, run on sentences , and using conjunctions to much? Anything can help guys I need to become more competitive with my writing so I get paid more for some basic writing!
    I wanted to recommend a book that helped me in school. "The Mac Is Not A Typewriter" by Robin Williams (not Mrs. Doubtfire Robin Williams) was a great resource in teaching how to use punctuation and proper typesetting. Good luck
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  • Profile picture of the author aeri
    I know this might sound a little silly, but I thought back to high school and the ACT...so I thought this might be really useful for this situation

    You can find it here: http://www.actstudent.org/sampletest...sh/eng_01.html

    It tests how well you know your grammar and word usage (to my memory), and it also provides an explanation for which option is the best answer and why the other ones are not the best options. I hope this is useful!
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  • Profile picture of the author jalicia18
    Be a wide reader.
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  • Profile picture of the author marimuda
    You can find a lot of online courses here Online Writing Improvement Courses
    maybe some of it is what you are looking for.
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  • Profile picture of the author The Copy Warriors
    1. Read strunk and white's elements of style

    2. Read material by very good writers (what's a "good writer" depends on what you want to write; if you're into copywriting, read joe sugarman; if you're into economics, read paul krugman; if you're into fiction, read john steinbeck, etc)

    3. Practice writing the kind of stuff you want to write. if you have no clients, just write stuff up for practice.
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  • Profile picture of the author shnmarketing
    May I suggest this link?: English Rules | Grammar Rules | Punctuation and Capitalization Rules

    I think it is based mainly on English English and not US English but at least it will give you a headstart.

    To become a good writer you will first need to learn and the above link will help you. Be warned though, you will need to spend time learning and not just quickly browsing. Put what you learn into practice.

    You also need to read others' works to get a feel of what real good quality writing is all about. Also, read junk - it will teach you HOW NOT TO WRITE.

    You then have to practice. I recommend you start off by writing 500-words each day for about two weeks. Then, punch it up a few notches to 1000-words per day.

    I know, it sounds really tough but 500-words each day is nothing. You probably already do that with emailing and text messaging each day anyway so why not go straight to the big number and hit 1000?

    The point I am trying to make here is very, very simple: if you want to earn money writing you have to treat your art of writing as if you were an accomplished carpenter or an L.A. lawyer. In other words, you need to be good at it and like the aforementioned professions; writing is also a profession. Behave like a professional and you will get paid like a professional.

    If my advice seems way over the top just think: how bad do you really want to be a success? How much does it mean to you? Do you want it or do you really, really want it?

    Good luck!
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    • Profile picture of the author Nate D
      [QUOTE=shnmarketing;5099388]May I suggest this link?: English Rules | Grammar Rules | Punctuation and Capitalization Rules

      I think it is based mainly on English English and not US English but at least it will give you a headstart.

      To become a good writer you will first need to learn and the above link will help you. Be warned though, you will need to spend time learning and not just quickly browsing. Put what you learn into practice.

      You also need to read others' works to get a feel of what real good quality writing is all about. Also, read junk - it will teach you HOW NOT TO WRITE.

      You then have to practice. I recommend you start off by writing 500-words each day for about two weeks. Then, punch it up a few notches to 1000-words per day.

      I know, it sounds really tough but 500-words each day is nothing. You probably already do that with emailing and text messaging each day anyway so why not go straight to the big number and hit 1000?

      The point I am trying to make here is very, very simple: if you want to earn money writing you have to treat your art of writing as if you were an accomplished carpenter or an L.A. lawyer. In other words, you need to be good at it and like the aforementioned professions; writing is also a profession. Behave like a professional and you will get paid like a professional.

      If my advice seems way over the top just think: how bad do you really want to be a success? How much does it mean to you? Do you want it or do you really, really want it?

      Good luck![/QUOTE
      Thanks for the links. I don't consider myself a bad writer. I just lack the motivation to improve certain things. I don't think I've used a semi colon since high school. I lack the motivation to figure out why they are even used.
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      • Profile picture of the author shnmarketing
        [/QUOTE
        Thanks for the links. I don't consider myself a bad writer. I just lack the motivation to improve certain things. I don't think I've used a semi colon since high school. I lack the motivation to figure out why they are even used.[/QUOTE]

        You are welcome, Crop.

        I understand what you mean. However, motivation is actually one of the key ingredients and oftentimes the difference between success and failure. You might be surprised at yourself once you get going. Just dig in because after a short while that motivation becomes like a second nature. You just first have to slowly blend it into your thinking. Honestly, just give it a try. Someone once told me, "If you want something you've never had before, you have to do something you've never done before."

        Good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author WriterWahm
    The best book hands down is Strunk and White, The Elements of Style. Try that. I'm glad you are trying to get better because you naturally have an advantage as a 'native' speaker...

    Google it or try this link to the pdf: Elements of Style.
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    • Profile picture of the author Ernie Mitchell
      Originally Posted by WriterWahm View Post

      The best book hands down is Strunk and White, The Elements of Style. Try that. I'm glad you are trying to get better because you naturally have an advantage as a 'native' speaker...

      Google it or try this link to the pdf: Elements of Style.

      I couldn't agree more!

      Elements of style is a "must" for all writers.

      Additionally, every good writer needs a good editor. I wouldn't dare publish something without first running it through an editor.

      I pay as much for editing as some people pay to have articles written.

      The way you engage an editor is critical. It does little long term good to simply have an editor correct your work and send it back to you without pointing problem areas.

      I require an editor to use a system of red and green highlighting to indicate what needs to be eliminated and what needs to be added.

      By having to process an inbound piece of editing by removing the highlighting and "red-lined" text and punctuation I become aware of my sins.

      A good editor should also be allowed to make suggestings for "mot juste."
      By using the highlighting system I can decide if I want to take the suggestions of the editor or discard them.

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  • Profile picture of the author LBO
    start reading books that are a challenge and actually look up words instead of skipping over them.
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  • Profile picture of the author SandraWood
    There are lots of content available online for tips of good writing.
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  • Profile picture of the author gavin thomes
    I also got a same problem but thanks for giving valuable tips.
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  • Profile picture of the author StevenJones
    Follow the posts of the lady warrior Alexa Smith to learn some real proper English

    If you are looking to get into the copy writing, you should search the forums or go see this section of the forum: The Copywriting Forum
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  • Profile picture of the author rooze
    The old adage of 'practice makes perfect' isn't really applicable to writing. If you continue to write shoddily you'll just be cementing bad habits in place. So it is good that you are doing what you are doing before you take on too many more clients - seeking advice.
    Reading well written prose is the best training you can get, so long as you read to learn and not just for amusement. Try some respected literature, follow how the author uses grammar and structure and think how you would apply that technique within your own work. Get the fundamentals right, some options have already been provided above.
    I wish I practiced what I preach in this regard, I'm still never sure where to stick the dots and wotnots.
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    • Profile picture of the author Azarna
      1 -Every time you go to type a word that you are even a little unsure about, google it to check spelling or meaning - if you get into the habit you will soon find you are growing in confidence (and vocabulary.)

      2 - There are a few good aps for both iPhone and Android that will drill you with grammar questions etc. I have a free one on my iPod touch that is very thorough, gives clear explanations of why the right answer is right, and was free - as soon as I can get my iPod off my son I will post what it is called (Allen's Grammar?)

      There are plenty of websites doing this too - Daily Grammar - Improve your writing with our free grammar lessons - for example.


      3 - Read, and keep reading. Numerous scholarly studies have proven that the people with the best command of the language are those who read the most (which makes sense). Try to challenge yourself and read slightly more challenging books than you are perhaps used to - and remember to check on any words you are not sure of!

      4 - There are many great books which clarify the rules. My long-term 'bible' is 'Common Errors and Problems in English' by Robert Allen which is part of the excellent Penguin Writers Guide series - and an entertaining read too. It's also a jolly economical little book too, btw.

      5 - Get a good writing magazine now and then, they usually have lots of advice on improving your general writing skills, plus articles on grammar and spelling.

      6 - Never be afraid to ask for a second opinion on things you have written. Everyone makes errors and everyone can benefit from another person's thoughts and observations.

      7 - As a few posters have spelt this wrong - its grammar, with an a ;-)
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  • Profile picture of the author DudeAndy
    You need to improve your writing skills right? Well just start writing, the niche doesn't matter just write for the sake of writing. You can always sell those articles at lower prices in bulks when your writing skills are improved.
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  • Profile picture of the author Elluminati
    You will get better as a writer by continuing to write and re-write. What I do for a living is read, write and edit all day, almost every single day, but I love it. If you are unsure about grammatical issues, start with Google. For example, highlight questionable words or "than vs then" to know which is correct. And yes, "grammer" is actually "gramma"r ; ) Best wishes : )
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeMarin
      Writing every single day is the best way I know to improve writing.

      Also here are 5 helpful books...

      1.Elements of Writing by Strunk and Write

      2.On Writing Well by William Zinsser

      3.On Writing by Steven King

      4.Simple and Direct

      5.The Brilliance Breakthrough by Eugene Schwartz (rare and hard to find, just glad I have my copy)

      P.S. For those of you who don't know Eugene Schwartz results wise was the best copywriter to ever live.
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      • Profile picture of the author carlenesky
        A good writer read lots of books and materials to increase their vocabulary. Are you doing this?
        Look for words on the dictionary and you should be sure you understand the meaning before you use it.
        Make sure you proofread and edit your writings before making it live. Eliminate unnecessary words when revising your work.
        Lastly, keep writing everyday. This is the best way to practice your skills in writing.
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        • Profile picture of the author Gayla
          I actually developed my online personality around my Southern accent. It has helped in the times when I wasn't quite certain of proper punctuation or grammar use. If I thought too much on a certain statement I'd simply choose an alternative or Southernize it up more.

          That of course isn't helpful when it comes to writing for others or when writing professional letters. I didn't think I needed much help, but more a reassurance that I was producing my personal best. In 13 years of working online, I have learned there is a quality tool or service for darned near everything. I found Grammarly to be my choice tool for proofing. In fact, I loved it so much, I have been granted permission to give away a handful of free memberships.

          The memberships are around $40 per quarter and $95 a year. If you're interested in a free membership send me a private message and we can go from there.

          These are review memberships - but real memberships just the same. It's not a one and done trial at all. Naturally they're giving them out to help spread the word about their service, but I'm sure you'll find it to be one of those services you want to share similar to what I have done

          It's perfect for students writing essays or academic papers - professionals writing memos, proposals and even emails - those learning English - authors, writers, bloggers and even job applicants or the unemployed looking to improve their resume and write quality cover letters.

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  • Profile picture of the author Shirlyn
    You just need improve your vocabulary and knowledge in the niche you are writing to get good content.
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    • Profile picture of the author mrkallen
      Thanks alot for these useful tips, I'll try to focus on my weaknesses.
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  • Profile picture of the author cb1803
    I would suggest you to enhance your persuasiveness. The more your writing will be compelling, the better you can position yourself as a prolific writer. you must follow the most successful bloggers as well as writers. Copyblogger and Problogger are authoritative blogs which I would recommend for any aspiring blogger or writer. They teach very well how to embed emotion into your writing. Good Luck... !
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    • Profile picture of the author Ross Bowring
      My best advice...

      Read and study a lot of good writing.

      It's a much more active and "sticky" learning experience than studying dry "grammar guides."

      I must have missed English class back in the day because my grammar was terrible...

      But I studied a lot of great writing and that's improved things a lot.

      Good luck!

      --- Ross
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  • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
    Stephen King says: Read a lot and write a lot. I agree with him.

    Another thing I find useful is to always hit the space bar after a punctuation mark. Readers dig it.

    One other thing. One exclamation mark is sufficient for most sentences unless you're writing about a cure for cancer, real alien visitation or the second coming.
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    • Profile picture of the author Lloyd Buchinski
      Microsoft Word is a help. The grammar suggestions it gives are sometimes 100% clueless, but often enough they do point to something that should be improved.

      Originally Posted by travlinguy View Post

      Another thing I find useful is to always hit the space bar after a punctuation mark. Readers dig it.

      One other thing. One exclamation mark is sufficient for most sentences unless you're writing about a cure for cancer, real alien visitation or the second coming.
      Enjoyed those, travelin. But keep in mind that the WF Manual of Style seems to suggest that you hit the enter key twice after a period.
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  • Profile picture of the author apoorv.parijat
    Not that I'm an expert on this topic but I'd recommend you read more. I'm a voracious reader myself (fiction, travelogues, just about every genre).

    Read a wide variety of authors and make it a habit. You'll be surprised how your writing improves.

    Also, the very basic of communication is to make sure that the reader understands your message. Contrary to what most "assume", filling your text up with jargon doesn't make your writing better. No, it doesn't make you look sophisticated either.

    There is a fine line between writing something that is engaging and informative and writing glib. :-)

    Also, from what I gather from your original post, I'd say you need to work on punctuation, the flow of sentences and the structure first.
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  • Profile picture of the author danstelter
    I had this recommended to me by a skilled writer:

    Robert Bly's The Copywriter's Handbook

    Bob Bly is a famous copywriter, possibly the most famous ever, who makes a six or seven figure living off the subject. I'm sure it's cheap as a used book on Amazon.

    I would go offline to improve your writing skills and read up on some books. Online, people can say whatever the heck they want, and you can get a wide range of opinions on how to write better.

    People published in print, especially print that has sold well, have to write very well in order to sell well. Start with some print sources.

    The other suggestion I have is to make some friends here on WF and ask people to critique your writing. I've done it, and there's nothing better than having someone who's been there and done that to let you know how you're doing.

    Hope this helps.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ken Marc
    Originally Posted by Tonylee93 View Post

    Anything can help guys I need to become more competitive with my writing so I get paid more for some basic writing!
    @OP: If you ever reach this response, I'll make you a sweet deal (Very good responses by others, by the way)

    So, I suggest you pick up 2-5 warriors on the forum with more than 500 post count whose writing style you like/adore (choose those who write long responses). Read their posts and try to mimic their style in your current assignments. By end of one month, you will be at par with most warriors here!

    Ken
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  • Profile picture of the author hotboy18
    I agree that you should keep on writing because you will learn so much as you write more often. Reading is very important also because you can learn new wrongs and how to spell them correctly. A dictionary is a good way to check your grammar and spell new words so try that first. I wouldn't spend any money on classes or lessons when you can have access to free material.
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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      Consider also taking some writing courses at your local community college or university. Then, read journals and publications within your target market with a concerted effort to write how your audience prefers to read.
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  • Profile picture of the author Cazzam
    The two best things you can do is read a lot, and then when you write, write as if you're talking to someone, as it'll sound more natural. You can always get someone to check the grammar for you.
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  • Profile picture of the author dbarnum
    Originally Posted by Tonylee93 View Post

    Hey guy`s so first I want to say is that I am getting out there and work! I have been writing articles for some clients, using fiverr.com and been using squidoo a little more! I haven`t been lazy!! Anyways

    So I want to improve my writing, any classes, lessons, people I could talk to that might be able to work on my writing skills? Any sites that can help me with grammer, run on sentences , and using conjunctions to much? Anything can help guys I need to become more competitive with my writing so I get paid more for some basic writing!
    Virtual University has a bunch of neat writing courses:

    KSURF Knowledge Web: Virtual University Home Page (no affil).


    Find their Journalism and Writing courses here:

    Virtual University: September 2011 Calendar of Classes


    These rock:

    311 Grammar Basics 1: Parts of Speech ($12.00)
    312 Grammar Basics 2: Word Usage ($12.00)
    313 Grammar Basics 3: Punctuation ($12.00)

    ... I've taken those a couple times to refresh my skills



    Also, a Tech Writing course at a local tech school helped a TON. In fact, I still use a lot of my online portfolio I created there.
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  • Profile picture of the author WishfulDoing
    I have found that study guides for the ACT test are very helpful and not too time consuming.

    Did you know that the English grammar taught in American schools is a bit different from the grammar taught in English schools? Some of the rules are not the same.

    And then there's the matter of writing the same way you talk. I would say this is a much more engaging way to write but grammar rules go out the window as we see in this paragraph. ;-)
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  • Profile picture of the author HatKing
    Well, depending on what your ultimate goals are, there are different ways you can go about improving your writing. Are you hoping to improve it for blogging purposes or to write for your clients? Also, what type of writing do you usually do?
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  • Profile picture of the author Lloyd Buchinski
    Well OK, here's one of my favorite quotes about writing.

    The first rule of writing is to put the seat of your pants to the seat of the chair. Sinclair Lewis
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  • Profile picture of the author seoforu
    There are many online English learning websites that could help you in improving your writing. You can be good in writing only after you have improved your grammar. So try and improve your grammar. The best resources for learning English grammar is given below:-
    Learn English Grammar Step by Step:Learn English Grammar
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    • Profile picture of the author aaronchen1
      yeah i got some great resources for that. check out Marketing Bullets and you can also google andre chaperon. they both have great stuff on copy writing and improving your writing skills.

      dan kennedy is also very good. they've got heaps of good free content you can pick up. hope that helps
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  • Profile picture of the author danlew
    I think you should buy a book from your local bookstore about writing in fluent English. In this way, you can study and practice writing the fluent English language (even without the computer and internet).
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    • Profile picture of the author Cade21
      I would echo what Paul Uhl suggested: take classes at your local junior college. Beginning Composition/Freshman Composition classes are structured so that your are writing and receiving feedback each session.

      It sounds good to say buy a book on writing and practice the drills, but my guess is that would end up like the purchase of most WSO's. You do not receive immediate feedback with each step, there is no accountability, and follow-through wanes when you perceive no movement.

      In a class, the content your create is totally exposed to both peer evaluations and critique by the instructor. Guidelines for structure, grammar/syntax, tone, nuance, and flow are discussed, modeled, and practiced.

      Plus, you would probably be the most motivated student in class since the majority would just see it as a requirement to endure and checkoff.

      Reading all you can will also be beneficial because you will begin to see that good writing has a rhythm, as opposed to a list of facts just stitched together in sentences.

      Good luck.
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  • Profile picture of the author AmandaT
    Read a lot and write a lot. Practice makes perfect!

    Since you are doing IM and you are doing a lot of writing for IM, a good source of great articles about writing is Ezine Articles. Their blog has taught me so much! They talk about common grammar mistakes, formatting articles, all kinds of stuff! Seriously, sign up for an EZA account and dig in. There is so much information there!

    Article Writing & Marketing Insights – EzineArticles Blog

    I would suggest starting with their blog entries on common grammar mistakes. It is always a good idea to brush up. From there, read what interests you!
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  • That's great you're interested in improving your writing skills - not something many online writers seem concerned about, curiously enough. I'm also considering some courses to work on my craft - whether you're a writer or strictly an information marketer, it's an investment in your self.

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    Finally, invest a lot of time reading books written by good storytellers. Try not to worry too much about run-on sentences, etc - don't go overboard with stuff like that, but realize the rules of grammar are a little looser online.

    Instead, put your energy into flow. This is where being a bookworm comes in; constant reading nurtures a natural sense of language. You'll even find many top authors write much like online writers - using fragments, run-ons, and other academic writing no-no's in their work as they see fit.

    It's also a good idea to learn professional research skills. The old practice of digging up "facts" in ezinearticles is becoming a thing of the past (if it was ever a good idea at all).

    Good luck!
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    In the end, it comes down to time. The more you write, the better you'll get - as long as you study the results your writing has had. Does it convert? Try to A/B test your writing with different phrases to see what 'clicks' with clients.
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