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we keep hearing about it, and now the BBC did a piece on it.


BBC News - Fake forum comments are 'eroding' trust in the web


I wonder if this is just one more thing that will gain enough exposure, and wind up making people change the way they do things.
( fake comments i mean. )

Between google trying to own everything, and so many people just lying about everything, the internet sure has gone down the crapper in a lot of ways over the last 10 yrs.

im just saying ....

edit ---
changed "everybody" to "so many." thanx Istan
#comments #fake #forum
  • Profile picture of the author Istvan Horvath
    Originally Posted by kenmichaels View Post

    and everybody just lying about everything,
    You know what the problem is with such generalizations?
    That right after it I read this:
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    and start thinking, oh well, everybody's lying

    just sayin'
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    • Profile picture of the author kenmichaels
      Originally Posted by Istvan Horvath View Post

      You know what the problem is with such generalizations?
      That right after it I read this:

      and start thinking, oh well, everybody's lying

      just sayin'

      muhahahahah, you are so correct.
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  • Profile picture of the author Matt Ausin
    I don't think anything is going to change. PR companies employing people to sway the public opinion one way or another is a tactic that has been around long before forums came along.

    For example, they would hire people that called the radio and expressed their opinion, of course, beneficial to the client. Radios would then assume it's something that public really thinks and broadcast that as public opinion.

    Or, in newspapers editors used to receive letters from "concerned citizens", who, in fact, were paid by a PR agency, or, in case of Soviet Union by the party.
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    • Profile picture of the author Verisimilitude
      Originally Posted by Matt Ausin View Post

      I don't think anything is going to change. PR companies employing people to sway the public opinion one way or another is a tactic that has been around long before forums came along.

      For example, they would hire people that called the radio and expressed their opinion, of course, beneficial to the client. Radios would then assume it's something that public really thinks and broadcast that as public opinion.

      Or, in newspapers editors used to receive letters from "concerned citizens", who, in fact, were paid by a PR agency, or, in case of Soviet Union by the party.
      Some things will change. For instance, there's still a big difference between then and now. For instance, it's a whole lot easier for someone even with basic google-fu and a good head on their shoulders to call liars out on their bull**** since they have access to so much more information at their fingertips. The increasing decentralization of authority we see over the years also appears to have some sort of linear relationship with the growth of the internet. I mean, who're you gonna believe when everyone claims to be an "expert"? I swear, the day after Google+ was launched, I must've seen at least 10 different people on the internet claim to be "experts" at working it and generating +1's.
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      • Profile picture of the author Michael Shook
        Truth is a funny kind of thing. People used to say, it must be true, I heard it on the news on TV. Now, it is more like, it must be true I read it online.

        The internet itself is kind of funny overall. The OP is writing about a perfectly SEO'd linkbait article on another site which is an edited compilation of abstracts from various other sources. And that page is covered with advertisements.

        No offense intended, it is just the way the web is structured. And it makes it hard sometimes to figure out what really happened.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gary Ning Lo
    Thanks for the share ken.

    Good read.

    And fake comments/spamming will always exist

    Cheers,

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  • Profile picture of the author tryinhere
    Originally Posted by kenmichaels View Post

    Between google trying to own everything, and everybody just lying about everything, the internet sure has gone down the crapper in a lot of ways over the last 10 yrs.
    time to for us all to bail from the net then / it was fun while it lasted
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  • Profile picture of the author Invert Planet
    thank gawd my forum wasn't hit with those guys, imagine the amount of editing and admin that would have to take place
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  • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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    The tactics aren't new, just a newer place that they are occurring. I thought most were aware of this kind of thing by now? I mean, it's the internet. Take everything you read with a grain of salt and pray your common sense doesn't fail you.
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    • Profile picture of the author littledan
      Originally Posted by Joe128139 View Post

      The tactics aren't new, just a newer place that they are occurring. I thought most were aware of this kind of thing by now? I mean, it's the internet. Take everything you read with a grain of salt and pray your common sense doesn't fail you.
      I agree, these tactics have been a round a lot longer than the Internet, It's called taking a short cut. There will always be certain people trying to benefit from the work of others, or trying to get a head of the pack without putting in the same effort. I doubt they will bring down the Internet in anyway, other than the Google type updates we get from time to time.
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  • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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    @littledan I agree completely. They are usually just a nuisance. Now sometimes they can be a very large nuisance, and ruin certain websites that were not prepared to defend/police these kinds of idiots. The internet as a whole though? Too big to fail! (Wait a minute, why does that phrase sound familiar?) Oh lord, THE INTERNET IS COLLAPSING.


    NOT.
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  • Profile picture of the author profitableblog
    lying has been it's own industry in the US for all of history with people migrating to settle the west selling their magic health potions through tv infomercials to the internet. Trying to make a fast buck will pay some bills today but a well built business will pay the bills forever and short cuts don't make a good business.
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  • Profile picture of the author scraig
    Quality and truth will always stand out. We'll never be able to get rid of the bad guys. Only thing we can do is not do or say anything just to make a buck.
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  • Profile picture of the author tpw
    The people who lie don't care about integrity or the integrity of the Internet.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Kilcoyne
    There's good and bad in all walks of life and commerce.It's up to ourselves to sort out the Wheat from the Chaff.
    Thanks for highlighting though.
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  • Profile picture of the author lastreporter
    While there is definitely a lot of gaming and outright cheating in every accept of Internet marketing, such developments as Panda and the tightening of certain social networks is making it increasingly more difficult for those who choose the easy -- but eventually fruitless path.

    However, there are some really great, honest individuals in marketing both online and off that promote quality services to their clients.

    Many are members of this forum.
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    • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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      Originally Posted by JMichaelZ View Post

      Truth is a funny kind of thing. People used to say, it must be true, I heard it on the news on TV. Now, it is more like, it must be true I read it online.

      The internet itself is kind of funny overall. The OP is writing about a perfectly SEO'd linkbait article on another site which is an edited compilation of abstracts from various other sources. And that page is covered with advertisements.

      No offense intended, it is just the way the web is structured. And it makes it hard sometimes to figure out what really happened.
      I hold the same viewpoint of the Internet. It is an enigma to say the least; a platform to spread both innovation and misinformation at blazing speeds. The fact that they occur side by side (and often crisscross) seems to cross few minds if any at all.

      Originally Posted by lastreporter View Post

      While there is definitely a lot of gaming and outright cheating in every accept of Internet marketing, such developments as Panda and the tightening of certain social networks is making it increasingly more difficult for those who choose the easy -- but eventually fruitless path.

      However, there are some really great, honest individuals in marketing both online and off that promote quality services to their clients.

      Many are members of this forum.
      Way to go! Collect your brownie points at the Warrior Forum front desk lol
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  • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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    Post I was talking about removed, making this post illogical. Also, it looks like I double posted now. Egg on my face.
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  • Profile picture of the author flamewave
    I think that this form of shadow marketting can be very efficitive if done covertly and correctly. Does this make it right and ethical? I think its on the border and I have not done this for many years. However "seed planting" can be very effictive as it allows the idea to grow semi-organic like.

    A subject is talked about becuase its important and its important because its talked about.
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  • Profile picture of the author creature
    Yes - that sort of unethical behavior should never be tolerated by Warriors.

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  • Profile picture of the author vivi62
    Hi
    yes unfortunately the fake forum comments will always exist as it is now considered a viable method of traffic creation. but the comments that make money are the ones that offer real content for the reader.
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