I tried it all.....and still nothing

by hotpr
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wow, for the past 6-8 months, i have tried affiliate marketing (both Amazon & Clickbank), blogging, twitter stuff, etc. And I still have not made a cent.

what am i doing wrong???

I like the idea of affiliate marketing most, but still can't seem to make any money.
#affiliate #alland #clickbank #marketing
  • Profile picture of the author hotpr
    this makes me soooo depressed
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    • I know it can get hard and frustrating and it seems you want to give up hang in there. Find a system, master it and you will money.Many warriors jump from wso to wso and get confused on what to do.
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  • Profile picture of the author Roan
    You will have to stick with one method that has been proven to work for others. You cant skip steps. Determination is key, completing all the steps and goes as a whole is important. Impatience can cause you to give up too quickly.

    How to solve this? Change the mindset first, then make sure u set goals. Complete all of them in a way you know have worked for others too.

    You like affiliate marketing. Article marketing or ppc? Which direction do u want to go in?
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    • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Stephens
      Originally Posted by Roan View Post

      You will have to stick with one method that has been proven to work for others. You cant skip steps. Determination is key, completing all the steps and goes as a whole is important. Impatience can cause you to give up too quickly.

      How to solve this? Change the mindset first, then make sure u set goals. Complete all of them in a way you know have worked for others too.

      You like affiliate marketing. Article marketing or ppc? Which direction do u want to go in?
      I agree with you Roan. You need to stick with one proven method, refine it until it works for you and start to bank.

      Then you need to do your own twist, then rinse and repeat.

      DON'T get side tracked with the new latest thing.
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  • Profile picture of the author David Keith
    what were you doing to add value for your prospects?
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  • Profile picture of the author hotpr
    For the most part I was doing the "sniper" like sites for both CB products and Amazon products. I have the mindset of not giving up. It is just that I need cash. It is close to x-mas and I am broke like you wouldn't believe. I could not even go to the grocery today cause I don't have any money. So I am just worried.
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    • Profile picture of the author Elsa
      Originally Posted by hotpr View Post

      For the most part I was doing the "sniper" like sites for both CB products and Amazon products. I have the mindset of not giving up. It is just that I need cash. It is close to x-mas and I am broke like you wouldn't believe. I could not even go to the grocery today cause I don't have any money. So I am just worried.
      I think you've done the right thing. Personally, I didn't make a cent until I created a sniper site. Now I consistently make money with my sniper sites. Probably you need to improve your articles so that they will convert, pick better keywords that will actually make you money, or even promote another product.

      Not all of my sites make money, so if one doesn't make a cent, I'll just create another one.

      IMHO, you should not buy any more info products.
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    • Profile picture of the author FitnessNut
      Being under financial stress can be very difficult. Unfortunately it effects our ability to make money.

      That doesn't mean it needs to stop you. Come up with a plan and ACT on it and you will be just fine.

      Originally Posted by hotpr View Post

      For the most part I was doing the "sniper" like sites for both CB products and Amazon products. I have the mindset of not giving up. It is just that I need cash. It is close to x-mas and I am broke like you wouldn't believe. I could not even go to the grocery today cause I don't have any money. So I am just worried.
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  • Profile picture of the author Roan
    Originally Posted by Craig Desorcy View Post

    The answer may be within the title of your post.

    Pick one project that you've done and list as many details here
    as you can about it. The devils in the details.

    If you've came for help today, be specific. People will
    respect your intelligence and offer sound advice.

    -Craig
    I agree craig. When you get desperate u tend to try too many things at the same time. Stick with one for at least one or two months
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  • Profile picture of the author Joe J
    Sorry to hear that Pal,

    I'm no authority at all in this market either but I do know that depression is a very bad thing to have for you right now.

    You are in a spot that needs your total well being to be in tact. If your depressed, you cannot operate at 100%.

    There are all the usual ways of creating some cash in hand, such as selling some posessions immediately. Not sure where your located and what means of selling things you have at your disposal but you do have an internet connection and can do a search for something local. Craigslist maybe? People give things away for free on there. You may be able to get a table for free, clean it, paint it and then sell it or whatever. You get my drift, I hope.

    Good Luck and don't let depression get in the way of thinking right now or you may fail.

    Joe
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  • Profile picture of the author Alohatom
    I agree with everyone who has answered here. Pick ONE method, you mentioned amazon..OK STICK WITH IT until you can rank your site on page one..make sure you have exxellent on page SEO...make sure you have well written articles...then you should be getting results....just stay with ONE METHOD!!
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  • Profile picture of the author 3D
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    I'm sorry about your depression, stick with it it will pay off. Start slow and learn one thing at a time. Don't try to master everything too fast.
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  • Profile picture of the author David Keith
    i would suggest your first step is to quit thinking about marketing right now, and look for ways to trade your time (and skills) for some money. check out the warrior for hire sections or some of the freelance sites like odesk or guru.com or fivver. look for some simple tasks you can do to get some money rolling in and then come back to marketing with a more clear head.

    the desperation is making hard for to you really see what needs to be done. its making you focus things on yourself to much and not on what you are doing to add value that actually warrants making some money.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
    Get yourself a mentor, or invest into your education, otherwise you'll waste another 6-8 months.
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    • Profile picture of the author hotpr
      Originally Posted by ramone_johnny View Post

      Get yourself a mentor, or invest into your education, otherwise you'll waste another 6-8 months.
      I just purchased that Affiliate Marketing Demystified program. It seems solid, so I guess I will just stick with that.

      Hopefully I will make some money soon.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kris79
      Originally Posted by ramone_johnny View Post

      Get yourself a mentor, or invest into your education, otherwise you'll waste another 6-8 months.
      I would completely agree.
      Stick with one think, also with ONE main teacher. If you try many things at one time it will only confuse you.

      ps.
      the most important thing is RESEARCH: keyword research in particular.

      Cheers

      Kris
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  • Profile picture of the author Willie Crawford
    Often being desperate leads to making bad decisions, so slow
    down enough to make sure that you are marketing products
    that you really believe in to the right people.

    Identify the problem that your audience has, and find a real
    solution to offer them. If people see that you offer a real
    solution, that works, they will buy from you.

    Avoid focusing on the hype, and promise of big money. As
    a beginner, I'd actually recommend a niche other than the
    mark money niche, and I'm not sure that I'd focus on
    Clickbank products. Since we are in the holiday season,
    Amazon product should sell well if properly presented.

    Willie
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  • Profile picture of the author owenlee
    sorry to hear about it...but to help you, do you know in the first place what is the mistakes that you are making?the first step is to find out all the mistakes and start all over again..that is the correct mindset if you ask me...
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    • Profile picture of the author hotpr
      Originally Posted by owenlee View Post

      sorry to hear about it...but to help you, do you know in the first place what is the mistakes that you are making?the first step is to find out all the mistakes and start all over again..that is the correct mindset if you ask me...
      I probably have to many problems. Trouble is I don't know which problems i have. lol I guess I will just start from scratch. affiliate marketing basics here I come.
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      • Profile picture of the author Mark Singletary
        Originally Posted by hotpr View Post

        I probably have to many problems. Trouble is I don't know which problems i have. lol I guess I will just start from scratch. affiliate marketing basics here I come.
        One problem you have is that it appears you keep advertising this WSO. You've done it in several threads now. Is it yours or your friend's?

        Another problem is you say you purchased it with I assume your last $37 since now you can't buy food. You may want to reconsider your priorities. I know it's tempting to buy the latest and greatest WSO but you have got to eat first.

        If it's so great then follow it. Since it was released 3 days ago or so what have you done with it except to advertise it?

        I ask this in a sincere way.

        Mark
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        • Profile picture of the author hotpr
          Originally Posted by Mark Singletary View Post

          One problem you have is that it appears you keep advertising this WSO. You've done it in several threads now. Is it yours or your friend's?

          Another problem is you say you purchased it with I assume your last $37 since now you can't buy food. You may want to reconsider your priorities. I know it's tempting to buy the latest and greatest WSO but you have got to eat first.

          If it's so great then follow it. Since it was released 3 days ago or so what have you done with it except to advertise it?

          I ask this in a sincere way.

          Mark
          I do not know the person doing it. and i purchased it just hoping that it would be the one to teach me something i am not doing. i don't mean to bring it up a lot. i guess i am wanting someone else to say they got it too and its good. kind of reassuring me. sorry.
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  • Profile picture of the author George Carlos
    Yeah its simple. Pick on niche and one method and pimp it! Don't stop till you get it right.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Singletary
    I understand the desire to share good things - that's what the Internet is about. But in this case it appears you were advertising a brand new, unproven, WSO all over the place and that's a good way to not be able to post here anymore.

    Some of the people posting on this thread are making it big time. Craig asked you to give more details. No one can help if you don't have answers when they ask for more information so that they can help you.

    Do you know who Willie Crawford is? He's a top of the line guru that most everyone trusts because of his reputation for giving good honest advice that works and his down to earth personality. Oh and he is very successful online. You may want to look at his personal advice to you in this thread, implement it, and then get on his newsletter list.

    Good luck.
    Mark
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    • Profile picture of the author kemper
      Originally Posted by Mark Singletary View Post

      I understand the desire to share good things - that's what the Internet is about. But in this case it appears you were advertising a brand new, unproven, WSO all over the place and that's a good way to not be able to post here anymore.

      Some of the people posting on this thread are making it big time. Craig asked you to give more details. No one can help if you don't have answers when they ask for more information so that they can help you.

      Do you know who Willie Crawford is? He's a top of the line guru that most everyone trusts because of his reputation for giving good honest advice that works and his down to earth personality. Oh and he is very successful online. You may want to look at his personal advice to you in this thread, implement it, and then get on his newsletter list.

      Good luck.
      Mark
      If you ask for help then do whats being asked by the people who are taking the time to reply to you.Do whats in this post and the ones before . List your areas and let people help dissect it for you. You have feedback from Mark and Graig use it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alston
    You may want to get a "real job" for a while.

    I'm not at all suggesting that you give up. However, sometimes you have to take a step backward before you get to take two steps forward.

    I worked three part-time jobs while I was starting my business. At first all of the money from one of the jobs went into the business and then I started to make a little profit and was able to cut out one job... Eventually I made all my income from my business and have continued to do so since 2005.

    It is impossible to know with 100% certainty if the next idea will pay off. And worrying about paying for life's necessities can make it easier to make quick and poorly thought out business decisions. Find a job that will pay your bills and still give you enough time to grow your business.

    One more suggestion: There are a lot of shiny things on the Internet, especially in the Internet Marketing/SEO space. Some work, some don't. Some are worthless; some are worth every penny and then some.

    But in many cases a newbie will do better by investing in $30 book full of solid information, but few promises as opposed to a $300 course that will "make you a millionaire over night."
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  • Profile picture of the author Miguelito203
    Originally Posted by hotpr View Post

    wow, for the past 6-8 months, i have tried affiliate marketing (both Amazon & Clickbank), blogging, twitter stuff, etc. And I still have not made a cent.

    what am i doing wrong???

    I like the idea of affiliate marketing most, but still can't seem to make any money.
    You haven't made a cent in 6 to 8 months using "sniper-like sites"? That's strange. We know the method is legit. From my experience as a blogger, making money is all about the amount of traffic you get to your site(s) -- assuming you have everything set up properly. If you are getting traffic but no clicks to the merchant page, perhaps you're not connecting with the people, perhaps you're targeting the wrong keywords, perhaps you're promoting the wrong kind of product based on the keywords they are using to find your site, perhaps it's your layout or format.

    I know that seems like a lot, but there is more than one up side. First, these skills can be learned. Second, with the new year right around the corner, you will have plenty of opportunities to make it work -- especially with people making all those new year's resolutions and what not. Niches like weight loss are especially huge. Don't give up.

    The fastest way to make money online is as a service provider because you get paid via Paypal. The problem is you already need to have a skill that you can use to do so. You might be able to write or something on a site like Iwriter, but since you haven't made any money online, I'm not sure how effective your writing is. Maybe you can borrow money from someone or something while continuing to work on your sites?

    Good luck,
    Joey
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    • Profile picture of the author SHER1972
      What on earth is sniper site?

      Hey I am new to IM. Dont get angry.
      Is it Mini site?
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      • Profile picture of the author jrpt
        If you truly have not made 1 cent in 8 months of active affiliate marketing then its probably not for you. If I do something for 8 months with zero return I stop and realize its just not a good fit.

        I'm not saying stop trying, but I am saying to forget everything you've been doing so far in your trek because its obviously not working. Start over from scratch, go with a proven system and stick with it 100%. Don't cheat. Don't slack.
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      • Profile picture of the author feliciayapsl
        Originally Posted by SHER1972 View Post

        What on earth is sniper site?

        Hey I am new to IM. Dont get angry.
        Is it Mini site?
        Yes, sniper site is a mini site.

        hotpr, what have you done with your Amazon/Clickbank sniper site? Did you do onpage SEO & backlinking? How's the ranking? What about keyword research? How many searches do your keywords get?

        Since you're in desperate situation, I'd suggest you look for a day job 1st. At least, you'll have money to feed yourself. Then at the same time, work on IM. IM is just like a business. It takes time, perseverance and a lot of learning curve.

        Wish you all the best.
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  • Profile picture of the author ryanmilligan
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    Pick one thing and don't move on until you have mastered it. I personally don't feel confident trying any different methods other than what I began with even though I am getting a nice little income.

    To your success,
    Ryan Milligan
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by hotpr View Post

    what am i doing wrong???

    I like the idea of affiliate marketing most, but still can't seem to make any money.
    With the best will in the world, nobody can possibly tell you what you're doing wrong without first seeing what you're doing.

    So be very wary indeed of anyone trying to, because they can only possibly be guessing.

    I don't mean it impolitely, but I honestly wonder, in fact, seeing the way you've asked this while giving virtually no information at all, whether "taking advice from people who were only guessing" might actually be your problem, and a pretty big part of the answer, here? :confused:
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  • Profile picture of the author Fahu
    you've spent 6-8 months on this, don't give up now, hang in there.
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  • Profile picture of the author hotpr
    Everyone is asking me for information on what I am doing. I don't know what you are looking for. If you want to know what I have been doing i'll say this.

    I have been doing sniper sites like George Brown recommends. I find a product that I like, I do keyword research to find a good keyword (I usuaully do phrase match, but now find that I should be using exact). And at least 3000 searches per month. I look at my competition and try and find something under 120,000 competing pages. Then I build a site for my keyword and throw in some extra "LSI" keywords. After I build my site, i ping it many many times to get indexed. I usually get indexed within 48 hours. I even sometimes get to the first page fast, but fall off just as fast. If I get traffic it is only like 10 people per day (if that). I also stumble, digg, & delicious my pages as well. but still not much traffic. i am not brilliant at writing english yet so i don't feel confortable doing article marketing right now either.

    Is this the type stuff you all wanted to see?
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    • Profile picture of the author Neromancer
      How about trying ONE thing and sticking to something that both inspires you and solves real problems for people on this forum? It doesn't take much to create a solution and as you have seen, marketers here need help. Find a niche here and become an expert in solving problems.
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    • Profile picture of the author David Keith
      Originally Posted by hotpr View Post

      Everyone is asking me for information on what I am doing. I don't know what you are looking for. If you want to know what I have been doing i'll say this.

      I have been doing sniper sites like George Brown recommends. I find a product that I like, I do keyword research to find a good keyword (I usuaully do phrase match, but now find that I should be using exact). And at least 3000 searches per month. I look at my competition and try and find something under 120,000 competing pages. Then I build a site for my keyword and throw in some extra "LSI" keywords. After I build my site, i ping it many many times to get indexed. I usually get indexed within 48 hours. I even sometimes get to the first page fast, but fall off just as fast. If I get traffic it is only like 10 people per day (if that). I also stumble, digg, & delicious my pages as well. but still not much traffic. i am not brilliant at writing english yet so i don't feel confortable doing article marketing right now either.

      Is this the type stuff you all wanted to see?
      i am not a googlesniper expert, and i know some have made money with it, but i just looked over the sales page and it clearly selling people the "dream life" and not actually selling what exactly it does.

      i can tell you that i am absolutely sure the google algorithm changes are not helping software like this. meaning as time goes on it gets harder and harder to be successful with these sort of tools. i have done this a long time, and usually by the time tools like this come about the method they are exploiting is usually already dieing.

      so to all those saying to just stick with one method, thats not very good advice by itself. sticking with a plan that is probably not going to work is not a good idea.

      you need to quit thinking about you and start thinking about what you can do to add value that warrants getting paid to do so. that is almost impossible given your current financial situation. you need to look for a way to trade time for money either with a job or by looking for tasks to do online.

      marketing is not a way to make quick money when your starting with nothing.
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  • Ashvin,

    Thank you again for getting my course, but I have just looked at your account and you have only ever signed in once.

    If you are going to stick with it, get in there and learn everything you can. Getting something and not using it will not help you in the slightest.

    I agree with everyone on here as well. Pick something and go with it. A jack of all trades and a master of none, will not bring you any money. Get good at 1 thing.

    Also, i do not want to add to your money issues.

    I have refunded you your money AND I am going to continue to give you access to the site so you can learn from it. I would rather you eat than to take your money.

    We are here to help each other out, right? I am a buddhist monk, and I could not knowingly take your money when you clearly do not have any.

    I wish you the best,

    Karma
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    • Profile picture of the author kemper
      Originally Posted by AffMarketingDemystified View Post

      Ashvin,

      Thank you again for getting my course, but I have just looked at your account and you have only ever signed in once.

      If you are going to stick with it, get in there and learn everything you can. Getting something and not using it will not help you in the slightest.

      I agree with everyone on here as well. Pick something and go with it. A jack of all trades and a master of none, will not bring you any money. Get good at 1 thing.

      Also, i do not want to add to your money issues.

      I have refunded you your money AND I am going to continue to give you access to the site so you can learn from it. I would rather you eat than to take your money.

      We are here to help each other out, right? I am a buddhist monk, and I could not knowingly take your money when you clearly do not have any.

      I wish you the best,

      Karma
      Compassion on the web great stuff !!
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    • Profile picture of the author Wayne-JJ
      Originally Posted by AffMarketingDemystified View Post

      Ashvin,

      Thank you again for getting my course, but I have just looked at your account and you have only ever signed in once.

      If you are going to stick with it, get in there and learn everything you can. Getting something and not using it will not help you in the slightest.

      I agree with everyone on here as well. Pick something and go with it. A jack of all trades and a master of none, will not bring you any money. Get good at 1 thing.

      Also, i do not want to add to your money issues.

      I have refunded you your money AND I am going to continue to give you access to the site so you can learn from it. I would rather you eat than to take your money.

      We are here to help each other out, right? I am a buddhist monk, and I could not knowingly take your money when you clearly do not have any.

      I wish you the best,

      Karma
      Now that's a super nice gesture there, wonderful to see!

      Ashvin,

      What you need to do now is like what others have mentioned, stick to ONE system only until you start seeing money rolling in, then just scale it up.

      I have no idea what content you are putting up on your sites, but if I'm looking to purchase something on Clickbank or Amazon, I'd want to buy from a site that has proper and useful reviews, that actually provides VALUE, and not one that is hell bent on selling only.

      If you can provide value, the money will come. Hope this helps
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    • Profile picture of the author Greg guitar
      Originally Posted by AffMarketingDemystified View Post

      Ashvin,

      Thank you again for getting my course, but I have just looked at your account and you have only ever signed in once.

      If you are going to stick with it, get in there and learn everything you can. Getting something and not using it will not help you in the slightest.

      I agree with everyone on here as well. Pick something and go with it. A jack of all trades and a master of none, will not bring you any money. Get good at 1 thing.

      Also, i do not want to add to your money issues.

      I have refunded you your money AND I am going to continue to give you access to the site so you can learn from it. I would rather you eat than to take your money.

      We are here to help each other out, right? I am a buddhist monk, and I could not knowingly take your money when you clearly do not have any.

      I wish you the best,

      Karma
      This post really moved me, and reminds me of the best things about the Warrior Forum-good people helping each other.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Hill
    Jumping on the internet trying to make money following a system is hard because you don't have the knowledge required to make good decisions. With every system there comes a time when you just have to make decisions on your own and a lot of the systems do not explain in enough detail for you to make solid decisions.

    Here's an example I think a lot of internet marketers can agree on. The decisions they make today are much different than the decisions they made when they first got started. That's because they understand more about marketing on the internet today than they did when they first started.

    What you need to do is research and figure out a plan. Your plan starts from where you are today, your interests and where you want to realistically be in a year or two from now. Following your interests is much easier because you already have a good foundation in that market and a keen interest in it, other than making money from it.

    When you have an interest in something you tend to make different decisions than you normally would if you were in it just for the money. Only people interested in a particular market will be able to identify areas of opportunity that everyone else is either missing or not doing a good job currently.

    So make that plan and start there. Find the market and the niche, then figure out how to turn that into a marketing business.
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  • Profile picture of the author xxxJamesxxx
    The Keyword research module in Google Sniper is terrible. That's why you could be not making money with your sniper sites.

    James Scholes
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    • Profile picture of the author Steve Lim
      Just focus on one idea like example affiliate marketing, and find a proven system, coach that can guide you along the way, you also can find some wso short course/ ebook/ video tutorial, and follow through with commitment, and if you have any questions you can always come back here, and a lot of members are ready to help.

      If you are really busy, just commit example 2 hours per day, follow through.. and you could have a different Christmas next year
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    • Profile picture of the author stsweet
      Originally Posted by xxxJamesxxx View Post

      The Keyword research module in Google Sniper is terrible. That's why you could be not making money with your sniper sites.

      James Scholes
      Hello James...
      How would you suggest doing keyword research on a sniper site if the method in GoogleSniper aren't correct?

      STSweet
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  • Profile picture of the author Kal Sallam
    Well still nothing because you have tried it all!

    You know what makes money online?one word: Systems.
    Pick a system you like,Master it,know the ins and outs,squeeze it to its full potential,Make thousands,THENyou can move on to creating your next system thus your online empire.
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  • Profile picture of the author Steve Faber
    It's time to do a serious analysis of exactly what you're doing. You need only two things to make money online:

    1) Targeted traffic
    and
    2) An offer that converts

    If you're not making any money, it's possible you're missing either of these, or both.

    If you're not getting any traffic whatsoever, the problem is easy to spot. You won't make money without traffic. If you're getting traffic, then it becomes more difficult.

    Where is it coming from? Is it targeted to your offer? Is it buying or merely info seeking traffic?

    Are you building a list, so that you can have a shot at converting that traffic later?

    If you're getting good, targeted traffic, that leaves the offer. Is the product in-demand? Is it well targeted to filling a need or want, or solving the problem your visitors have?

    Is the sales page converting? If not, why not? (see the previous points) Is the sales copy simply bad?

    If you're getting good targeted traffic, and the offer isn't converting, it's time to switch offers.

    Dig in and determine why you're failing, then proceed from there.
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  • Profile picture of the author absolutelee
    Pick one thing seems to be the theme of the replies, and they're all correct. You posted this on the 2nd. Affiliate marketing is not something that's going to put a lot of money in your pocket in the next 23 days. IM in general, is not a quick money thing, unless you're established and know what you're doing.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jason Clay
    I would recommend approaching IM from the other end. Instead of being an affiliate, start creating products that people will find useful.
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  • Profile picture of the author anthony2
    Originally Posted by hotpr View Post

    wow, for the past 6-8 months, i have tried affiliate marketing (both Amazon & Clickbank), blogging, twitter stuff, etc. And I still have not made a cent.

    what am i doing wrong???

    I like the idea of affiliate marketing most, but still can't seem to make any money.
    If you are looking to become successful with affiliate marketing
    then you need to study Ewen Chia.

    He is a Super Affiliate - meaning he is making 5 figures a month just
    from affiliate marketing.

    You should google him.

    Also you can checkout his website Super Affiliate Trainer

    He has free videos on affiliate marketing.

    1)What is Affiliate Marketing to Getting traffic and Making Money!
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    • Profile picture of the author Tony Marriott
      I have noticed this thread a few times but ignored it as I figured you would be getting plenty of responses and advice. So I probably can't add much more. however it keeps popping to the top so I've succumbed.

      Reading through I see what I consider is pretty mixed advice.

      So here's mine .

      If you have no money and you have been completely unsuccessful with IM for some time and you need money fast then STOP with the IM. Even if you had everything going for you you won't be making money for Christmas. It ain't happening.
      1. Get a job, Get another job, Do overtime, whatever it takes in the real world to put some money in your pocket and sort out your basics first.
      2. Anyone who has advised a great way to make money or method to follow has not really helped. You've tried everything and failed so it's not a lack of ideas it's something more fundamental.
      3. Sticking at one thing is great advice but obviously if you keep failing at the same one thing you need to rethink. Although the answer may not be “try something else”.
      4. Get a mentor is the best advice I would have. I know that cost money but how much would you spend on WSO/ebooks in a year? - because a good mentor (or even an average one) can probably see what you are doing wrong or give you a path to follow to avoid the pitfalls.
      5. Alex is right in that you have given very little information for anyone to make a specific recommend. “I tried it all and nothing works” is pretty sweeping and actually of little value as an informational statement. Hence any advice given is really generic.

      So to answer your question “What am I doing wrong?


      I have no idea, but I'm pretty sure it's a lot
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  • Profile picture of the author Leslyaviel
    You will never become financially free by focusing on a particular product or company. You have to offer value in order to succeed and it has nothing to do with the company you are promoting. You have to be set apart from the rest by being consistent in doing income producing activities. You must learn how to generate free traffic. You must learn how to implement what you have learned. Then scale up what is working.
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    • Profile picture of the author ProScribe
      I would echo what Willie suggested and try the Amazon Affiliate Product Program.

      I don't personally do a lot of Amazon selling but I do have a few review sites, that I do very little with and they tick away and make me some side money.

      With the recent thanksgiving weekend, I like many warriors, saw a spike in sales, and it did get me thinking about how easy selling through the program is to implement.

      The conversion rates seem to be fairly predictable and even if they people don't buy the specific product that you are selling they will often pick up something else.


      Writing the reviews is not hard either. Just choose something that you own (if you own it you can probably buy it on Amazon). Talk about the product and then have a link at the bottom. You don't really need to do a hard sell, just intercept the sale.

      Keep creating reviews and I can gaurantee you will start making at least some money.

      As I said Amazon isn't my main thing, so I'm sure there are other people who could give you better advice on the real nitty gritty of Amazon promotion, but I do make consistent money at it, and I'm pretty sure thats what you are looking for.
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    • Profile picture of the author icsponsor
      Hey bro here's a few things you have to think about to really make money online.

      #1 what are you going to promote.

      #2 what marketing strategy are you going to use to market your business affiliate program, product, etc...

      Facebook ppc is hot and you should definitely learn how to market there its the easiest, fastest, cheaper way to create traffic online right now.

      Definitely would love to give you some tips just send me a private message and we'll connect.

      It's the easiest marketing strategy that you can pick up right away and start creating some results. I learned how to leverage fb ppc with only a few hundred bucks.
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    • Profile picture of the author wilsonljx
      I understand your feeling!I am also undergoing that stage now.Initally,I have made 2 sales but after that,I have not made any sales.But I will try to change to the mindset of providing quality content in my blog first before asking back from themI guess that is one of the best way to keep you going without giving up.

      Good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author webexperts666
    You have to try again and again don't be depressed.
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  • Profile picture of the author johnben1444
    Find a niche

    Build your site and center it around your niche with your keyword in the domain (EDM).

    Add content and pictures targeting similar keywords

    Send some cool back links and ensure you diversify and you will be happy with the result.

    I have an amazon PDF you will find interesting, PM me if you are interest. You can start making $300 monthly building a 45min site. Just imagine you come up with three sites every month, your income will skyrock between three months.
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  • Profile picture of the author MaryKathan
    The best advice that I was given when I started was "Pick ONE proven business model and do ONLY that" to start. Bascially - Focus on just one thing, get that going and built up before you jump to something else.

    That is from a Liz Tomey blog video....great advice.
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  • Profile picture of the author FitnessNut
    Look I know that it can be very discouraging when you are not seeing results. But the good news is you have tried a lot of things and you now have a much better perspective.

    That being said, look at anything that has worked for you so far..

    Maybe you have not made any money yet, but surely you have seen some sort of results as far as traffic goes?

    Take what has worked and restructure it into one project/site/blog whatever and put all your efforts into that. If you are getting the traffic, just not converting than you just need to do a little research on getting your traffic to convert better. Or maybe even just turning your traffic into an email newsletter (this can be powerful and like the guru's say "auto-pilot income".)

    However it will take work to get there, and I sincerely advise you
    NOT TO GIVE UP!!!

    The Warrior Forum is a great place to get your questions answered and get help from people who have already had great success with what you are doing.

    I truly wish you the best of luck and hope you see these past month's as a valuable learning experience from which you can build off of.

    Kindly,
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  • Profile picture of the author mrizos
    I'll throw my 2 cents in....the most money I've ever made involved blogging about the things I love (computers, games, xbox, ps3). I created a site encompassing that rather large niche and it pays me about 2,500/mo (Adsense and Amazon)

    I've NEVER created a SINGLE backlink to the site. It's a PR5 and has thousands of backlinks to it from legit sources. Each post was about 300 words and I post everyday (usually not on holidays though).

    I've tried lots and lots of crap out there, this was the only method that worked for me...writing about things I like and posting via wordpress.

    Hope that helps someone out there...it's as simple as that.
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  • Profile picture of the author stevet563
    Hey,

    You need to remember ONE thing. Stick with ONE business model. If it's affiliate marketing, stay with that ONE thing. Next, pick ONE product that you are interested in that looks promising by doing research to see if it is selling. Buy the product yourself. How can you recommend something you don't know much about, right?


    Next, pick a free product that your target market will be interested in getting for free.
    Set up a squeeze page, giving away this free thing to them. It could be a free report, an audio or a video of some hot topic your market will like.

    Now that you have their name and email, send them 2 emails a day for 2 weeks. In the morning give good content. In the evening, pitch them an affiliate product that will help them avoid pain or give them pleasure. Avoiding pain is better than receiving pleasure. Write your emails to help them avoid pain and show that your affiliate product can do this. Give them your affiliate link and your off to the races.

    Good luck.
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  • Profile picture of the author jannatus
    We all have and DO go through these frustrations. Just keep up with the learning curve and you'll find that soon, jus like a spring being pushed up against the wall, you'll eventually spring back with so much momentum and knowkledge that everything will jus start clickin for ya - hang in there buddy !
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  • Profile picture of the author onSubie
    Originally Posted by hotpr View Post


    what am i doing wrong???
    You aren't driving traffic to your offers.

    Mahlon
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  • Profile picture of the author badass7
    well it could be numerous things.it could be ur advertising or maybe just the program you chose.i picked up this program and yah i wont get rich but ive made quite a bit so far.keep your head up!
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  • Profile picture of the author sanjon
    You need to Integrate your affiliate marketing with Facebook applications, facebook advertising... every1 spends most of there time on facebook and You will also get targeted leads ...
    Just dont lose hope..
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  • Profile picture of the author chrislangley
    It may simply be the products you are promoting, and your audience, double check your ad copy with sites that are raking it in, and see what you can improve
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  • Profile picture of the author Don Luis
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  • Profile picture of the author matt5409
    Originally Posted by hotpr View Post

    wow, for the past 6-8 months, i have tried affiliate marketing (both Amazon & Clickbank), blogging, twitter stuff, etc. And I still have not made a cent.

    what am i doing wrong???

    I like the idea of affiliate marketing most, but still can't seem to make any money.
    instead of asking what you are doing wrong, why not tell us in detail what you are doing?

    i can't see how amazon would fail for anybody. i mean, it really is so easy. i don't make anything like serious money from it, but i make sales every day. find a decent keyword, register the domain, put up some products/encourage click throughs and you will make sales.
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  • Profile picture of the author JieLim
    May I make a humble suggestion, that you may consider looking at building your own list.

    One of my biggest shifts in internet marketing was when I started to build a list for myself instead of marketing affiliate products. With a list, you can effectively market to your customer multiple times, whereas blogging etc it's much more likely that people will see you once and then they're gone.

    If you'd like some free information on list building, you can check out my site at List Building | Email Marketing | Squeeze Page. I'm not selling anything there at the moment, just free information, so check it out if want to.

    Otherwise feel free to ask me questions. Keep posting stuff on the forum too. There's always helpful fellow warriors around. =)

    Jie
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  • Profile picture of the author stellaex
    Dont lose hope because there's a long way to go. Being successful cannot be achieved over night . Learn from your past failures and apply a better planned out technique. Quitters never win and Winners never quit.
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    Do not give up easily!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author Sonny1977
    If you are truly broke, my advice would be to get a job, cleaning toilets or whatever you can get.. You are not going to make any real money online just like that, it takes a lot of time and patience.
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  • Profile picture of the author PunditGonzo
    Find something to sell to your local market. Local online marketing is so Hot right now. You can build some business equity and then build a following. Once you have the following you can then promote affiliate products to that following. Provided you have something of value to promote to them.
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  • Profile picture of the author hotpr
    thanks everyone for the advice. it means a lot to me that you all care enough to leave a comment. after taking some time to think about everything I am going to do Amazon Affiliate review sites. i think that would be best for me. i am going to document every little step i do on this forum so that everyone can see what i am doing and give advice [if you don't mind].

    tomorrow i am going to do some research for a hot product niche within amazon. then i will look at the products themselves.

    this is my criteria for products.

    1. over $100
    2. must have at least 4 star rating
    3. over 20 reviews
    4. no electronics
    5. must sell well on amazon

    i'll write more tomorrow when i find a niche.
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    • Profile picture of the author onSubie
      Originally Posted by hotpr View Post


      this is my criteria for products.
      Hi

      Don't be too rigid in your criteria...

      1. over $100

      You can also look at lower priced hot selling items. You can make money selling a higher quantity of cheaper items too and the higher sales volume will contribute to a higher commission percentage on ALL your sales.

      A good mix of high-priced items for commission with some low-priced niches for volume can pay off.


      2. must have at least 4 star rating

      Don't blow off a hot seller just because it has average reviews.


      3. over 20 reviews

      You can find a lot of hot converting niches looking for less popular items with fewer reviews. You can find a lot of great low hanging fruit because 90% of Amazon marketers are using cookie-cutter guidelines out of WSOs.


      4. no electronics

      Yeah, I avoid them too because of the 4% commission. But 4% of a $2,000 TV is a lot more than 7% of a $250 blender.


      5. must sell well on amazon

      Ideally.


      Mahlon
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  • Profile picture of the author World Marketing
    Don't give up....IM can be extremely discouraging in the beginning...Stick to it until you fond something that works for you!
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  • Profile picture of the author celente
    Here is how I went from being a broke ass nigga to 6 figure business.

    1) Build list

    2) build bigger arse list

    3) Make your list even bigger.

    4) Create a nice relationship with that list

    5) Then offer then stuff.

    This works time and time again, have you done this?? I am sure if you do this you will see some results.
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  • Profile picture of the author kjmeylan
    Switching from one idea to another is what kept me from making money. I found out that you have to choose one specific thing and keep to it. Right now I am working with Adsense and making money through that.
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  • Profile picture of the author MaryK
    It's tough Pal but do focus on the end result, not the problem i.e. lack of money. Doing so will only bring more lack. Three deep breathes and some calm thinking are needed here. Desperation leads to poor judgment and actions.

    Stick to one product/method and learn all you can about how to promote that particular product.

    Make a plan of action. Set your goals and stick to them - focusing on the END results.

    Make sure your product is one people are buying right now. Do some research. Willie suggested a niche market, very good suggestion and one I sure would follow.

    Also, look outside IM at present. I saw someone suggested making money by finding free stuff, like an old table, on craiglist, fixing it up and selling it on. Think outside the square.

    You've taken action by posting on this forum that's great. So now, deep breathe brush yourself down and go for it. See yourself as a money magnet. Stay positive, it's in the hard times that the tough really get going and make things happen.

    Good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author terrencewan
    From your title,
    I already know what types of mistake
    you have made,
    jumping from one program to another
    won't made you money,
    it will made you spend more time
    and money.

    I was like you several months back,
    but when I tried something,
    I am finding my strength and weaknesses,
    from then, I start to focus on my
    strength and avoid my weaknesses.

    The following is one of the examples :

    I can't write very well,
    so I avoid writing articles.
    I can don't do article marketing,
    or I can choose to outsource the
    articlel writing to someone.

    I can do blogging, video marketing,
    ppc, joint venture, solo ads, ad swap,
    etc.

    In conclusion, diversify your trial,
    find your strength asap,
    and focus on your strengh and
    amplified your returns once you see any
    profit.
    Focus, Consistent, Persistent.

    Goodluck,
    Terrence Wan

    P.S ; Treat online business as a business,
    no overnight success is possible.
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  • Profile picture of the author Russel Mogul
    Invest money and Invest time.

    Trust me if you want it bad enough, you'll succeed
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    • Profile picture of the author Nightengale
      Originally Posted by Russel Mogul View Post

      Invest money and Invest time.

      Trust me if you want it bad enough, you'll succeed
      I think you get the Least Helpful Post of the Month award. Posts like this won't endear you to the WF community.

      The OP indicated he's tried several things for a while and is in a difficult (i.e. desperate) financial position. Your post offers NOTHING helpful.

      I've been where he is. He needs truly helpful advice, not platitudes.

      Try again.

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  • Profile picture of the author Greg guitar
    Most of the suggestions about Amazon seem pretty good, but one thing concerns me. If you're so close to the bone that you can't afford groceries, what will you do for cash while waiting for your Amazon check, even if you were to sell tons of stuff this month? Do you have someone to loan you some survival money?

    Personally, I'd maybe take the Amazon suggestions and run with them, but only part time. The rest of the time, I'd go after something that pays out immediately, like Warriors for hire services, selling mobile sites to local biz, or promoting instant pay affiliate programs like WSOs.

    Have you considered finding a nice PLR product to offer as a bonus to a WSO seller? They could enhance their offer with no expense or effort on their part, and in exchange, you'd get sign-ups of proven WSO buyers (your product could require email registration). Then, keep giving them value, and promote other WSOs to them as well.

    Just an idea-not sure what your skills and interests are, but trying to think what could bring you cash tomorrow rather than next year.
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  • Profile picture of the author wildjohnny
    you need to stick with one method. You can't make money jumping from one method to another. Just decide what you want to do and keep doing it no matter what if you really want to succeed.
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  • Profile picture of the author Osman_M
    Build a list, it will serve you well. There are 2 main themes you need concentrate on to be successful, copywriting and traffic. Search both those terms, learn and implement.
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  • Profile picture of the author Greg guitar
    Without getting dramatic or singling anyone out about it, I'd just like to appeal to anyone who wants to get their post count up, to at least make sure you are really being helpful, on these threads where someone needs help.

    That means you need to read threads before posting very obvious advice after dozens or hundreds of people have already posted.

    I can say with almost 100% certainty that the OP and anyone who's interested, will simply be burdened with reading the same obvious advice over and over-which is a hindrance rather than a help, not to say you mean it that way, but it is what it is.

    It's probably not an exaggeration to say that because people don't bother reading first, 90% of the posts on a multi-page advice thread are just repeats of earlier posts.

    Take it for what it's worth-not trying to hurt anyone's feelings, but imo the forum would be vastly improved by people simply reading before posting.
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  • Profile picture of the author Nightengale
    Arrrggghh! Posts like this make me crazy!

    First, if you can't even buy groceries, then you need to focus on getting a JOB. Probably not what you wanted to hear, but it's a BAD idea to try to start a business when you're desperate. Customers can sense that a mile off and will run the other way. Plus, you just don't make good decisions when you're desperate. Desperation repels money.

    Put your IM ambitions on hold until you can at least buy groceries and cover your own basic expenses. Or you might be able to offer services, which requires no investment of money, just your time and you can get some cash fairly quickly.

    Forget about anything else right now. It takes time and even payment ISN'T instant, especially if you're an affiliate.

    One the one hand, I TOTALLY understand your frustration and sympathize with you. Been there, done that, got the t-shirt.

    But your posts indicate a lack of focus and consistent action.

    You've gotten a lot of good advice here, namely: focus on one thing until you succeed with it. THEN move on to the next thing.

    Originally Posted by Roan View Post

    You like affiliate marketing. Article marketing or ppc? Which direction do u want to go in?
    Posts/thinking/advice like this also make me crazy. PPC is NOT a business! Article marketing is NOT a business. They are marketing METHODS!

    Same thing goes for affiliate marketing.

    IM is actually pretty simple: you can sell only one of two things:

    1. Products
    2. Services

    That's it!

    If you're an affiliate, you're still just selling products/services and the basics of IM still apply.

    It sounds like you don't have much direction on what TYPE of business you want to start. Before you do ANYTHING in IM, you need to know this.

    Clarity is a HUGE part of IM success.

    Selling products or services online happens in the same basic way for everyone, no matter what they're selling:

    Traffic > Opt-in page > Autoresponder series (or e-zine) > Sales page

    That's it! It's just that simple. (We IMers tend to overcomplicate things.)

    But no matter what your niche is, or whether you're selling a product or a service, do you know what your business model is?

    A business model is the framework or skeleton of your business. Essentially there are three types of online business models:

    1. Membership-based model

    A membership-based business model allows you to build a community of people (your members) who are as passionate about your subject as you are. Your membership fees can be monthly or annual, but either way, you're building recurring, passive income.

    There are a lot of resources and information out there to help you build a membership-based business if you're interested in doing this.

    2. Product-based model

    Selling products allows you to maximize your time and effort by selling items over and over again. This can be hard goods or it can be information products. Information marketing is it's own business model under the product-based model. Information marketing allows you to take your brain to the bank by creating a product ONCE based on what you know and selling it over and over again.

    I see someone has already recommended affiliate marketing. You can choose to market either products or services as an affiliate.

    3. Service-based model

    Selling services can be great for 1) generating quick cash (as in the case of article writing or video producing) and 2) establishing your expertise and getting testimonials.

    However, in the long run, your goal should be to offer services at a PREMIUM. The biggest advantage of IM is LEVERAGE. You're able to leverage your time, money and expertise exponentially online. We all have just 24 hours each day. Time to get ruthless about what you expect for those hours you spend in IM each day. Expect more of yourself and more from your business friends, clients, partners, etc.

    What results are you getting for those hours you spend online each day? Ultimately, your services should be at the bottom of your funnel and cost the most since they involve your time and personal attention. (We all have a limited amount of time each day.)

    The fun (and confusion) comes in with all of the endless mix-and-match possibilities of the above models. If you're just starting or still struggling to make money, keep it simple:

    Pick just ONE!

    1. Pick ONE niche. (Something you're interested in and know something about.)

    2. Pick ONE target market for your product or service. (Who will buy what you're offering? The more specific you are, the more you narrow it down, the more successful you'll be.)

    3. Pick ONE business model.

    Now that you're clear about what business you're in, FOCUS! (And stop buying any info not related to your niche and target market, period!)

    F -- Follow
    O -- One
    C -- Course
    U -- Until
    S -- Successful

    In IM, it's easy to put the cart before the horse. Take a deep breath, step back and consider what type of business you're REALLY want. Don't worry about getting traffic or buying that expensive traffic product until you know 1) what your business model is, 2) what niche you're in and 3) WHO your target market is!

    Successful business people will tell you that MARKETING is more than half the effort that's needed for success anyway. So pick a niche, target market and business model. Then spend most of your time and effort marketing it.

    If you DON'T have a solid plan or system, THAT'S when it's hard. A good system will shave YEARS (and save you big $$$) off of your learning curve

    That's why I recommend investing in at least one good, comprehensive IM course (or mentor who will give you such a system) instead of jumping from one $37 e-book to the next. A lot of people here complain about not being able to make any money. But neither are they willing to invest in their business. (Buying a random bunch of $37 e-books doesn't count.)

    The best thing I ever did was invest in a comprehensive IM course aimed at REAL business owners, not just other IM wannabes. Yes it was $1500. (Now it's only $997. :p) But it was truly some of the best A-Z IM info I ever bought. Everything else I've learned (from the $37 e-books) since has simply been plugged into this system.

    (In your case, don't invest in this though until you have a JOB!)

    Get a solid plan or system and then work the plan!

    Hope this helps!

    Michelle
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  • Profile picture of the author kennykjtan
    It is very true that getting to google page one does not mean that you will make money. I realized that most people are just looking for information. Actually you can't do much except to grow your lists.

    I've read through a lot of threads and it is a solid prove that "THE LIST" = "THE MONEY". Since you are running out of money, my advise to you is to look for a job and Slowly build your list.

    Sniper site are not evergreen blogging has the advantage of long term steady income. Sniper is something like hit and run (short term fast money)

    Hope this help
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  • Profile picture of the author Kom
    I am The same with you !

    But I did make some money from IM, Not Much!!! better then Nothing ,, I keep practice- practice and practice...

    Think about the words on mysignature

    Thanks
    Kom
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  • Profile picture of the author evictorino
    Originally Posted by hotpr View Post

    wow, for the past 6-8 months, i have tried affiliate marketing (both Amazon & Clickbank), blogging, twitter stuff, etc. And I still have not made a cent.

    what am i doing wrong???

    I like the idea of affiliate marketing most, but still can't seem to make any money.
    I believe that you should identify your niche.. What you niche is, then jive with people in social media or in forum with same interest, add value to them then market to them...
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  • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
    Originally Posted by hotpr View Post

    what am i doing wrong???
    What are you doing?

    Seriously, this rather important detail seems to be missing from your post.
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